Most instruments don't require you to aim at tiny circles.Mvsk wrote:
The amount of time it takes to get good in osu is the same amount of time it takes to get good with an instrument.
Sorry i'll clarify.Babble wrote:
Most instruments don't require you to aim at tiny circles.Mvsk wrote:
The amount of time it takes to get good in osu is the same amount of time it takes to get good with an instrument.
I guess osu! and playing an instrument are similar in that your skill in both deteriorates the longer you leave them alone.
I could see that. Considering rhythm games require timing inputs to a beat like actual instruments, it's not hard to believe there could be similarities in the learning curve between osu! and instruments. However, I wouldn't know firsthand since the last time I played an instrument was when I was 13 (trombone in the middle school marching band holla at ya boi).Mvsk wrote:
Sorry i'll clarify.
I've been playing osu on and off for a couple years now. In the time it has taken from 0 to 3-4 star maps is the same time it has taken me to get decent at electric guitar. Over a few months average difficulty median for osu will definitely increase same with guitar or any other main instrument. Saxophone. Violin. Drums. I know... "you put time into something you get good at it". but i realized that the 2 require around the same amount time for the same amount of difficulty.
Started off with video games tunes on guitar. 1 star map equivalent on osu
smoke on the water + other blues and early rock songs = 2star map
Children of bodom - 3 star maps
Cradle of filth - 4 star maps
The proficiency rate seems to only differ by about 10% max.
Just came back last week and as of 6 months ago i was playing modded 2 star maps. Now i can beat some 4.5 4.6 star maps. It's odd some of us actually get better after taking breaks from osu. Abilities here haven't degraded with time they have improved.
It would seem that you're at a rank that has a significantly higher skill cap. Do you watch any Osu gameplay videos when returning from your break? It could help... I watch Doomsday, Xilver, cookiez and others to sort of... pre calibrate after breaks. Getting your eyes use to their gameplay before hand can help with your own.Babble wrote:
I could see that. Considering rhythm games require timing inputs to a beat like actual instruments, it's not hard to believe there could be similarities in the learning curve between osu! and instruments. However, I wouldn't know firsthand since the last time I played an instrument was when I was 13 (trombone in the middle school marching band holla at ya boi).Mvsk wrote:
Sorry i'll clarify.
I've been playing osu on and off for a couple years now. In the time it has taken from 0 to 3-4 star maps is the same time it has taken me to get decent at electric guitar. Over a few months average difficulty median for osu will definitely increase same with guitar or any other main instrument. Saxophone. Violin. Drums. I know... "you put time into something you get good at it". but i realized that the 2 require around the same amount time for the same amount of difficulty.
Started off with video games tunes on guitar. 1 star map equivalent on osu
smoke on the water + other blues and early rock songs = 2star map
Children of bodom - 3 star maps
Cradle of filth - 4 star maps
The proficiency rate seems to only differ by about 10% max.
Just came back last week and as of 6 months ago i was playing modded 2 star maps. Now i can beat some 4.5 4.6 star maps. It's odd some of us actually get better after taking breaks from osu. Abilities here haven't degraded with time they have improved.
And I wish my osu! skill didn't deteriorate. I binge osu! every few months, and whenever I come back form a break I'm significantly worse than the last time I played.
This means getting your eyes use to fast gameplay and it does help regardless of what you think Mahogany. Looking at your page you haven't even taken a break from osu for more than a month so you really have no say when it comes to returning after hiatus.Mvsk wrote:
Getting your eyes use to their gameplay before hand can help with your own.
That depends on what musical instrument compared to what play style. Personally I find osu waaaaaaaay easier than learning piano, guitar and violin.Mvsk wrote:
The amount of time it takes to get good in osu is the same amount of time it takes to get good with an instrument.
Mvsk you fucked up it took me 10 years to get 8th grade, and it took me 2 months to get to 60k rank kappaKhelly wrote:
rank 60,000
Thank you for this amazing post! This channel is a gold mine.Arthraxium wrote:
If you're musically inclined, you'll easily learn instruments. If you have good reflexes and dexterity, you'll easily be good at osu!. It's quite that simple.
Now, look at this amazing 600pp play 88-keys mania
ftfyArthraxium wrote:
Now, look at this amazing 6000pp play 88-keys mania
Arthaxium gets it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Arthraxium wrote:
If you're musically inclined, you'll easily learn instruments. If you have good reflexes and dexterity, you'll easily be good at osu!. It's quite that simple.
Now, look at this amazing 600pp play 88-keys mania
Yes! You get itxxjesus1412fanx wrote:
watching people play can help you warm up to a certain ar that you already know though, 9.67 feels like 9 to me after watching enough 10.3
"I cannot do it therefore nobody can do it!" - M.hog.Mahogany wrote:
Lol you won't learn to read an AR by watching someone play an AR
I can watch people play EZ or play HRDT and follow what they're doing completely fine but if I try to actually play it I fall apart because while my brain can comprehend what is going on, the added obstacle of trying to convert the visual information being conveyed into a motor function means I'm completely unable to keep up because now I have far more things to keep track of and pay attention to.
Watching videos of other people playing osu will not help you improve.
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I was making a statement as to how the brain works, not a statement as to my own abilities. Not that you'd know much of how brains work, you're acting like a child. Stop being so salty just because I disagree with you.Mvsk wrote:
"I cannot do it therefore nobody can do it!" - M.hog.
Saphirshroom wrote:
There's a big difference between warming up and getting better. You can maybe warm up by videos, but you won't get better by any significant margin. Watching videos to improve is a joke. You don't even improve significantly playing Relax because you're playing like a third of the game at best. You won't get better watching videos. You can "warm up" with it. That's it though.
Also: You're shit, and a liar. Your top rank is a 3 star map.Mvsk wrote:
Even though I have improved from watching videos before hand (Went from playing 2.5-3 star star maps before break to playing up to 4.65 star maps upon returning)
That's exactly what I was sayingxxjesus1412fanx wrote:
its not about improvement tho maho
^^^^Arthraxium wrote:
nah, watching videos doesn't make me improve
but it does make me install my osu! again
Don't know what's so hard about reading.Mvsk wrote:
It would seem that you're at a rank that has a significantly higher skill cap. Do you watch any Osu gameplay videos when returning from your break? It could help... I watch Doomsday, Xilver, cookiez and others to sort of... pre calibrate after breaks. Getting your eyes use to their gameplay before hand can help with your own.
Wrong again troll your exact words were "there's literally nothing you can glean from watching pro osu players."Mahogany wrote:
There's literally nothing you can learn from watching an osu! gameplay video. Any perceived improvement is guaranteed to be a placebo.
Think about it this way: How am I going to improve my streaming by watching someone play Blue Zenith? How am I going to improve my aim by watching someone play Airman? I can't.
In some games, you can learn strategies and positioning by watching other players. osu! has none of these. It's purely an aim game.I was making a statement as to how the brain works, not a statement as to my own abilities. Not that you'd know much of how brains work, you're acting like a child. Stop being so salty just because I disagree with you.Mvsk wrote:
"I cannot do it therefore nobody can do it!" - M.hog.Saphirshroom wrote:
There's a big difference between warming up and getting better. You can maybe warm up by videos, but you won't get better by any significant margin. Watching videos to improve is a joke. You don't even improve significantly playing Relax because you're playing like a third of the game at best. You won't get better watching videos. You can "warm up" with it. That's it though.Also: You're shit, and a liar. Your top rank is a 3 star map.Mvsk wrote:
Even though I have improved from watching videos before hand (Went from playing 2.5-3 star star maps before break to playing up to 4.65 star maps upon returning)
And that's true. Just watching a pro!osu player play the game won't help you learn anything.Mvsk wrote:
Wrong again troll your exact words were "there's literally nothing you can glean from watching pro osu players."
Are you illiterateMvsk wrote:
When you have been gone from osu for soooo long your eyes are not going to be use to the speed required to play. Your muscles will however retain muscle memory. If you jump in it will take a while to adjust. If you watch videos then play your eyes will already be adjusted.
Skill in osu! isn't measured by what maps you can clear, it's measured by what maps you can FC. You were stating you could play 4.5* maps, attempting to pass it off as your skill level and brag about your abilities, when really, your skill bracket is 3*. You never "said" your top rank was 4.5*, but you attempted to imply that was your ability, and I proved it false, else you would have 4.5* map FCs at the top of your Top Plays. I can pass airman, airman is 7 stars, I'm cookiezi, right? Cookiezi plays 7* maps. I play that 7* map. I'm cookiezi.Mvsk wrote:
Also i never said my top rank was a 4.5 star map i said i can complete 4.5 star maps which is clearly visible in my top ranks section.
The only thing impressive here is the amount of salt you're spewing. You've managed to spout two entire paragraphs of completely redundant, irrelevant and inane statements, whilst making petty personal attacks on me for god knows what reason. That's just about the only thing impressive here (Aside from the amount of patience I'm displaying trying to politely explain this concept to you)Mvsk wrote:
Jumping skill brackets is impressive
Mahogany wrote:
And that's true. Just watching a pro!osu player play the game won't help you learn anything.Mvsk wrote:
Wrong again troll your exact words were "there's literally nothing you can glean from watching pro osu players."Are you illiterateMvsk wrote:
When you have been gone from osu for soooo long your eyes are not going to be use to the speed required to play. Your muscles will however retain muscle memory. If you jump in it will take a while to adjust. If you watch videos then play your eyes will already be adjusted.
I've never said anything against warming up. Your entire paragraph is redundant. While I'm doubtful, I've never claimed videos can't help you warm up. But warming up means getting back to your normal standards. It doesn't mean you're improving in any way. If you're going to type something, type something that needs to be said.
I'll say it again, because god knows I'll need to. Warming up is not improving. You aren't learning anything, you're not getting better in any way. You're just returning to your normal standard of play.Skill in osu! isn't measured by what maps you can clear, it's measured by what maps you can FC. You were stating you could play 4.5* maps, attempting to pass it off as your skill level and brag about your abilities, when really, your skill bracket is 3*. You never "said" your top rank was 4.5*, but you attempted to imply that was your ability, and I proved it false, else you would have 4.5* map FCs at the top of your Top Plays. I can pass airman, airman is 7 stars, I'm cookiezi, right? Cookiezi plays 7* maps. I play that 7* map. I'm cookiezi.Mvsk wrote:
Also i never said my top rank was a 4.5 star map i said i can complete 4.5 star maps which is clearly visible in my top ranks section.The only thing impressive here is the amount of salt you're spewing. You've managed to spout two entire paragraphs of completely redundant, irrelevant and inane statements, whilst making petty personal attacks on me for god knows what reason. That's just about the only thing impressive here (Aside from the amount of patience I'm displaying trying to politely explain this concept to you)Mvsk wrote:
Jumping skill brackets is impressive
