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The Quick Brown Fox - Coward Killing Time [Osu|Taiko]

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theowest

Louis Cyphre wrote:

It's not spamming
2x speed is not that hard
It's unexpected in some parts
example:
00:25:100 (1,1,1) -
00:27:200 (1,1,1) -
00:29:900 (1,1,1) -
Also 2.5 velocity x 200 bpm, ok. But 2x speed is too much.

and it's not ridiculous spacing! It's just INSANE!
00:30:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
00:38:225 (2,3) -
00:46:100 (5,6,7) -
also 00:52:400 (1) - hidden slider

I'm not sure about mapping the whole song. You're the only one telling me this. I've gotta ask more people if I should do this or not.
If you are not going to map the whole song, you should cut mp3.

I'm not going to persuade you about all this stuff. Good luck with ranking this.

Dude.. You're not a insane player on osu right? It's only hidden to the untrained eye... The untrained osu player. You play CTB. Not osu. It's not that unexpected! You can clearly see them if you're good at osu... Which you clearly aren't.

You don't have to cut a mp3 just because the beatmap ends!! People who want the song wants the full song, so some people take it from osu!



OzzyOzrock wrote:

I'll map up to where you did in case you decide to cut the MP3.
You don't have to cut the mp3 just because the song ends. If someone wants the full mp3, they've already got it in the song folder!
It's unnecessary and only saves storage. But since it's already a very short beatmap, it's unnecessary!

Please make the taiko diff! :D
Louis Cyphre
Dude.. You're not a insane player on osu right? It's only hidden to the untrained eye... The untrained osu player. You play CTB. Not osu. It's not that unexpected! You can clearly see them if you're good at osu... Which you clearly aren't.
it feels like you are.

Anyway:

I'm not going to persuade you about all this stuff. Good luck with ranking this.
TTTTTTTTTTTT
david0508_old
thx for you're review dude!
i star you to :3
LKs
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vincerio
good luck with this <3
Zelos
ummm. i cant really figure out the offset issue here. sorry.
Kitsunemimi
Here we go.

theowest wrote:

Yeah, I know. But you see, I've seen a lot of insane beatmaps that are ranked! Like Made of fire - oni, DJ pop's insane for U.N. Owen was her, Haya Saitama2000 - oni, many Kirby mixes, Guillaume Tell - Heavy, Bad apple - Extra, Okuu's Nuclear Fusion Dojo - v2b's insane, Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita - Hard, Chocobo - Gold, Diddy Kong VS Dogadon - Insane, Exciting Hyper, Highspeed Star - Highspeed, V3 - Impossible, Ieavan Polkka Trance Remix - BeuKirby, That's just some very hard beatmaps that's longer and harder than my Insane.

I would really get this ranked!!!
Made of fire - Approved map
U.N. Owen was her - Approved map
Saitama - Easy
KIRBY mixes - Not nearly as hard as this one (in terms of slider hax)
Bad Apple!! - Only a couple of fast sliders; still not even as fast as the ones in this map
Okuu - Buncha jumps, kinda as fast as your sliders, except having an entire 2x section is overkill
Marisa - old map
Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star - Nowhere near as Highspeed as this
V3 - High spacing jumps, no spam whatsoever
Ievan Polkka - Approved map

The Insane you did is completely overmapped. The first thing I thought of when I saw it was StrangeProgram [Lesjuh's TAG]. Also, I can't pass this map in CtB (or even get 3 seconds into the 2x section). There aren't many maps I can't pass in CtB, and that's a fair sign that your map is too hard. Your map seems almost as hard as [ignore's Another] from deltaMAX. That's definitely approval-tier.

However, with the Ievan Polkka map mentioned above, there are ranked difficulties and approved difficulties in the same mapset. Meaning it's possible for this difficulty to be approved, while the rest of them get ranked. Although if I remember, with the other map, some BATs were displeased with the fact that it somehow got ranked, which is what caused two of its difficulties to become approved. That means having approved and ranked difficulties in the same mapset will cause some trouble, and I'm not sure if you want to deal with that.

Also, if you don't want to map the rest of the song, I'll just stick this right in your face.

AIMod wrote:

The mp3 you are using is a lot longer than the part which is mapped. Consider cropping it to reduce filesize.
It may not say that for your map, but it's what me and Louis Cyphre are trying to say. If having too much extra song length is an issue that's worth mentioning from AIMod, then it most certainly is an issue when other people are telling you it's too long.
Also, we have audio quality restrictions. The fact that you can't upload songs with bitrates beyond a certain point emphasizes the fact that we're attempting to save as much disk space as possible. Otherwise, among your 10,000 maps or so, if a whole bunch of them decided to have extra, unused song length, or if they all used the highest bitrates possible (beyond 192kb/s), then it would cause a significant impact. peppy once said (I can't find exactly which post he said it in) that osu! isn't your mp3 download service. The mp3 is merely for the map itself, and if someone wanted to use the mp3, they should go find it and get it themselves. It should be no reason why you're wasting disk space (albeit little, it's still a waste) on everyone's computers.

Also, I suggest you fix up the thread name.

Although all of the mapping seems good (I didn't take a thorough look at them), we have two major problems going on here, and the way I see it, two major problems isn't going to help you get the map ranked. If you manage to fix them up, or at least clear up the situation a bit, I'll offer you a star. But until then, I'm really not sure if any BAT/MAT will think this is okay. I hope you consider this massive wall of text I typed over the past half hour, and wish you luck on getting this map ranked/approved/both.
Topic Starter
theowest

Kitsunemimi wrote:

Here we go.

theowest wrote:

Yeah, I know. But you see, I've seen a lot of insane beatmaps that are ranked! Like Made of fire - oni, DJ pop's insane for U.N. Owen was her, Haya Saitama2000 - oni, many Kirby mixes, Guillaume Tell - Heavy, Bad apple - Extra, Okuu's Nuclear Fusion Dojo - v2b's insane, Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita - Hard, Chocobo - Gold, Diddy Kong VS Dogadon - Insane, Exciting Hyper, Highspeed Star - Highspeed, V3 - Impossible, Ieavan Polkka Trance Remix - BeuKirby, That's just some very hard beatmaps that's longer and harder than my Insane.

I would really get this ranked!!!
Made of fire - Approved map
U.N. Owen was her - Approved map
Saitama - Easy
KIRBY mixes - Not nearly as hard as this one (in terms of slider hax)
Bad Apple!! - Only a couple of fast sliders; still not even as fast as the ones in this map
Okuu - Buncha jumps, kinda as fast as your sliders, except having an entire 2x section is overkill
Marisa - old map
Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star - Nowhere near as Highspeed as this
V3 - High spacing jumps, no spam whatsoever
Ievan Polkka - Approved map

The Insane you did is completely overmapped. The first thing I thought of when I saw it was StrangeProgram [Lesjuh's TAG]. Also, I can't pass this map in CtB (or even get 3 seconds into the 2x section). There aren't many maps I can't pass in CtB, and that's a fair sign that your map is too hard. Your map seems almost as hard as [ignore's Another] from deltaMAX. That's definitely approval-tier.

However, with the Ievan Polkka map mentioned above, there are ranked difficulties and approved difficulties in the same mapset. Meaning it's possible for this difficulty to be approved, while the rest of them get ranked. Although if I remember, with the other map, some BATs were displeased with the fact that it somehow got ranked, which is what caused two of its difficulties to become approved. That means having approved and ranked difficulties in the same mapset will cause some trouble, and I'm not sure if you want to deal with that.

Also, if you don't want to map the rest of the song, I'll just stick this right in your face.

AIMod wrote:

The mp3 you are using is a lot longer than the part which is mapped. Consider cropping it to reduce filesize.
It may not say that for your map, but it's what me and Louis Cyphre are trying to say. If having too much extra song length is an issue that's worth mentioning from AIMod, then it most certainly is an issue when other people are telling you it's too long.
Also, we have audio quality restrictions. The fact that you can't upload songs with bitrates beyond a certain point emphasizes the fact that we're attempting to save as much disk space as possible. Otherwise, among your 10,000 maps or so, if a whole bunch of them decided to have extra, unused song length, or if they all used the highest bitrates possible (beyond 192kb/s), then it would cause a significant impact. peppy once said (I can't find exactly which post he said it in) that osu! isn't your mp3 download service. The mp3 is merely for the map itself, and if someone wanted to use the mp3, they should go find it and get it themselves. It should be no reason why you're wasting disk space (albeit little, it's still a waste) on everyone's computers.

Also, I suggest you fix up the thread name.

Although all of the mapping seems good (I didn't take a thorough look at them), we have two major problems going on here, and the way I see it, two major problems isn't going to help you get the map ranked. If you manage to fix them up, or at least clear up the situation a bit, I'll offer you a star. But until then, I'm really not sure if any BAT/MAT will think this is okay. I hope you consider this massive wall of text I typed over the past half hour, and wish you luck on getting this map ranked/approved/both.
FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU...

Okay, thanks for the information...
Just wanted to say:

Made of fire really not ranked? But what does this picture tell you?
And it doesn't have the approved text coming up when playing it.

The same thing with U.N. Owen was her:

Dude. You mean the other version. I mean the harder version. THIS ONE! Take a look at the oni diff and look at cookiezi's replay! He got B. yeah.. The highest score on a ranked beatmap was B!! And I've got 2 people already who can S this beatmap.

The Ievan Polkka is pretty much fucking insane with BeuKirby's diff. Only half timers and Cookiezi have S it. EDIT. Only 2 people S:ed it.. (Just like my beatmap but more people will S it without half time.)

It never comes up any approved thingy when playing them.

I will take the advice by cutting the beatmap. I guess having the song longer than the beatmap is kinda useless. :C

Oh. I can pass my beatmap but none of these! Hmm.. Weird.
And yes, my beatmap is impossible for CTB users.. :c

Thank you so much for your information, I will try my best to please you all.

However, with the Ievan Polkka map mentioned above, there are ranked difficulties and approved difficulties in the same mapset. Meaning it's possible for this difficulty to be approved, while the rest of them get ranked. Although if I remember, with the other map, some BATs were displeased with the fact that it somehow got ranked, which is what caused two of its difficulties to become approved. That means having approved and ranked difficulties in the same mapset will cause some trouble, and I'm not sure if you want to deal with that.
I'LL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES!!
Here's a great example of how it can look like! :D
viewtopic.php?t=33025

Your map seems almost as hard as [ignore's Another] from deltaMAX. That's definitely approval-tier.
NO WAY DUDE. O__O Mine's even easier than the maps shown written above! D:

EDIT: I'll go for approval and you cut the mp3 for me, THANKS! :D
Selee
Made of fire=2009
U.N. Owen was her=2009
Haya Saitama2000=2009
Ranking standard was different at that time I suppose.
Ievan Polkka=For app, but accidently ranked.
App this? You need 3 BATs. I don't think any of them would approve this if you don't change your attitude ._. Also the difficulty spread doesn't work well imo. Good luck...

Funny song. So stared.
Topic Starter
theowest

Selee wrote:

Made of fire=2009
U.N. Owen was her=2009
Haya Saitama2000=2009
Ranking standard was different at that time I suppose.
Ievan Polkka=For app, but accidently ranked.
App this? You need 3 BATs. I don't think any of them would approve this if you don't change your attitude ._. Also the difficulty spread doesn't work well imo. Good luck...

Funny song. So stared.
FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Okay!! I will make the insane for approved and the others for ranked!

EDIT: All beatmaps go for approval!



I'm still not sure to cut the mp3. THE MP3 IS ALREADY SMALL IN SIZE!! D:<
Shiirn
As much as I like this, the entire thing should go for approval. It's just not worth screwing with.

H-Easy
00:48:800 (3) - Reverse arrow facing the wrong way, Move the endpoint one unit left to fix.

Normal
00:47:600 (1) - This slow slider came out of left field.
00:51:200 (3) - 0.75x doesn't work for this slider.
00:52:400 (4) - Feels very strange right after (3), comes up too fast, and is unstacked.
01:14:000 (1) - End this at 1:16:400. Get rid of the uninherited timing section.

Insane
Definitely approval tier. 200bpm sliders on 2.5 slider velocity with x2 bpm, for a nice total of 1000BPM sliders? Yeah, this is StrangeProgram tier fuckery. This isn't a bad thing, per se.
No actual issues with the map itself.
Kitsunemimi
Actually... Your mp3's bitrate is 246kb/s (VBR?)

Official Ranking Submission Criteria wrote:

The bitrate of a beatmap's audio file should be no lower than 128kbps and no higher than 192kbps.
So since it's already too high, you might as well cut it down while reencoding it. If you need help with that, then you ar-- ah actually you know what. Here, you can haz: http://www.mediafire.com/?3hcb3wkdt19g3e8 I've also reduced the volume so that's it's finally capped at 0dB. Saves a grand total of 1.4MB.

It may sound stupid, because the audio file indeed is pretty small as it is. But rules are rules, so they must be followed. Otherwise, it'll cause unnecessary butthurt for everyone, including those who mod your map, and you yourself. Oh, speaking of butthurt rules, you've got a useless .osb that needs deleting~
Topic Starter
theowest

Shiirn wrote:

As much as I like this, the entire thing should go for approval. It's just not worth screwing with. You're sure..? D: And may everyone agree with you? EDIT: OKAY! I'll go for approval! :)

H-Easy
00:48:800 (3) - Reverse arrow facing the wrong way, Move the endpoint one unit left to fix. I'm telling H-Boy

Normal
00:47:600 (1) - This slow slider came out of left field. Changed
00:51:200 (3) - 0.75x doesn't work for this slider. Then what should it be..?
00:52:400 (4) - Feels very strange right after (3), comes up too fast, and is unstacked. TOO FAST? LOL, ARE YOU A NOOB OR SOMETHING? XD Sorry, just kidding... So I should stack it? I don't like how that looks. >.<
01:14:000 (1) - End this at 1:16:400. Get rid of the uninherited timing section. The beat actually is on 01:16:362 and you can clearly hear the difference. I removed the uninherited timing section because I'm not gonna use it anymore but the end of the spinner stays!

Insane
Definitely approval tier. 200bpm sliders on 2.5 slider velocity with x2 bpm, for a nice total of 1000BPM sliders? Yeah, this is StrangeProgram tier fuckery. This isn't a bad thing, per se. Yeah, but they're quite easy to do. :P
No actual issues with the map itself.


THANK YOU!



Kitsunemimi wrote:

Actually... Your mp3's bitrate is 246kb/s (VBR?)

Official Ranking Submission Criteria wrote:

The bitrate of a beatmap's audio file should be no lower than 128kbps and no higher than 192kbps.
So since it's already too high, you might as well cut it down while reencoding it. If you need help with that, then you ar-- ah actually you know what. Here, you can haz: http://www.mediafire.com/?3hcb3wkdt19g3e8 I've also reduced the volume so that's it's finally capped at 0dB. Saves a grand total of 1.4MB.

It may sound stupid, because the audio file indeed is pretty small as it is. But rules are rules, so they must be followed. Otherwise, it'll cause unnecessary butthurt for everyone, including those who mod your map, and you yourself. Oh, speaking of butthurt rules, you've got a useless .osb that needs deleting~
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN!! :D
Email_old
Hej! spelar inte osu längre men som du ville, här har du en stjärna!
Topic Starter
theowest

email wrote:

Hej! spelar inte osu längre men som du ville, här har du en stjärna!
HAHA! Du gick in på min dator och starade! XD



Kitsunemimi wrote:

Actually... Your mp3's bitrate is 246kb/s (VBR?)

Official Ranking Submission Criteria wrote:

The bitrate of a beatmap's audio file should be no lower than 128kbps and no higher than 192kbps.
So since it's already too high, you might as well cut it down while reencoding it. If you need help with that, then you ar-- ah actually you know what. Here, you can haz: http://www.mediafire.com/?3hcb3wkdt19g3e8 I've also reduced the volume so that's it's finally capped at 0dB. Saves a grand total of 1.4MB.

It may sound stupid, because the audio file indeed is pretty small as it is. But rules are rules, so they must be followed. Otherwise, it'll cause unnecessary butthurt for everyone, including those who mod your map, and you yourself. Oh, speaking of butthurt rules, you've got a useless .osb that needs deleting~
WTF! The new mp3 fucked up the beatmap!! Do I have to change the beatmap or the mp3?

EDIT: I changed the offset and everything is fine now! :D
val0108
wow!! nice mapp XDDDD starr~>w<"
Dusty
[Easy]
All right

[Normal]
Pretty good

[Insane]
Holy fuck this is crazy

so star.

By the way, if you're still accepting diffs, could I make one?
Topic Starter
theowest

Dusty wrote:

[Easy]
All right

[Normal]
Pretty good

[Insane]
Holy fuck this is crazy

so star.

By the way, if you're still accepting diffs, could I make one?
If you update my beatmap and make a very hard one then yes! ;)

This is going for approval so it better be very, very hard!! :D
ziin
you took off normal and hard, so

[kaboom!!!]
00:42:237 (2) - would sound better if you followed the melody rather than the same old beat. 2 sliders on the white beats extending to a blue beat should do it.
00:51:837 (1) - slider
00:57:237 - map this shit. song's a minute long. We don't need no stinking breaks.

I certainly can't pass it without halftime, but we'll at least get it starred and kept alive for a little longer. Since this is approval and all, I think a longer song is in order. It sounds like you fade out, which means there's more?

[general]
some people might complain about your background being 1024x654. I don't think it matters a whole lot. (though I would crop it to see if it saves space).
Your background is a 1 MB png with jpg artifacts. Kind of defeats the purpose of lossless doesn't it?
Topic Starter
theowest

ziin wrote:

you took off normal and hard, so Nah, not really. Just Easy and Normal. But that's no big deal. KillerRind might give his difficulty any day now.

[kaboom!!!]
00:42:237 (2) - would sound better if you followed the melody rather than the same old beat. 2 sliders on the white beats extending to a blue beat should do it. Nah man.. It looks real bad n' shit. Trust me bro.
00:51:837 (1) - slider Yea dats rite.
00:57:237 - map this shit. song's a minute long. We don't need no stinking breaks. Whatever you say boss.

I certainly can't pass it without halftime, but we'll at least get it starred and kept alive for a little longer. Since this is approval and all, I think a longer song is in order. It sounds like you fade out, which means there's more? Y'know.. The beatmap was longer before but they all said I should cut it so I did and now it's like this. It could however be longer. It's not much missing to be mapped, I mean, if you guys want to I can map the whole song.

[general]
some people might complain about your background being 1024x654. I don't think it matters a whole lot. (though I would crop it to see if it saves space).
Your background is a 1 MB png with jpg artifacts. Kind of defeats the purpose of lossless doesn't it? If someone fixes my background perfectly cropped and everything I'll give him a big juicy kudosu. Yeah that's right! A motha-fucking kudosu bitch!
Sorry for my rude "gangsta" talk.. I'ma bit angry coz my internet's fucked up all the mothafkkin time!!1 D':
Dusty
nah, I can't really make really hard diffs, nevermind then.
Luneko
Here's my diff
I hope you like it :3

btw, your offset seems wrong to me, try offset 800 how it is in my diff
and i mapped the whole song so put the old mp3 in q.q

Download: The Quick Brown Fox - Coward Killing Time (theowest) [KillerRind's Yadada].osu
Selee

I'd say offset +10ms
Verdisphena
So fucking easy
Sonnyc
KABOOM!:

01:08:650 (1) : Make better symmetry
01:12:250 (6) : ^, a bit clearer I mean.


lol, so easy that I can have an SS :o
No special issues^^

*Star*
Topic Starter
theowest

Selee wrote:

SPOILER
[attachment=0:e94b2]BG.jpg[/attachment:e94b2]


I'd say offset +10ms
Hmm.. I'm still not sure about the offset. I'm paranoid that I can hear sound before the actual beat when I'm slowing it down and stopping and repeating like that a thousand times...

The BG seems quite alright. I'll go with it for now. :D
Hanyuu
lol hahaha


star
Topic Starter
theowest

sonnyc wrote:

KABOOM!:

01:08:650 (1) : Make better symmetry
01:12:250 (6) : ^, a bit clearer I mean. Wait.. What do you mean..? I don't understand you bro.


lol, so easy that I can have an SS :o
No special issues^^ Oh really..? I might just turn up the crank to make it harder if you want.

*Star*

Verdisphena wrote:

So fucking easy
Oh yeah? You want it to be harder? ;D



KillerRind wrote:

Here's my diff
I hope you like it :3

btw, your offset seems wrong to me, try offset 800 how it is in my diff
and i mapped the whole song so put the old mp3 in q.q
man.. But if you map the whole song then I gotta do that.. I dunno what to do. ;___;
OzzyOzrock
He really shouldn't have mapped the full song if you cut it. ;;
Topic Starter
theowest

OzzyOzrock wrote:

He really shouldn't have mapped the full song if you cut it. ;;
Yeah.. .__.



I changed the offset on your taiko diff and cut KillerRind's diff! It's all perfect now! Spread the word about this beatmap! We might just get some good mods before it gets approved! :D
ziin
If it's done, you can move it to pending.

Approval maps are usually long and difficult, breaking a number of "guidelines" along the way. With a short song, though, you're sort of in the ranking category.

This is an easy approval, very hard rank (there's more difficult songs which are ranked by mistake). Perhaps there's a good reason to have a short approval? Maybe the song is very repetitive and doesn't need to be mapped entirely (I don't know/haven't listened to the entire song). I just listened to it because it's still in the osz. There is no reason to cut a 2 minute song. Map the whole thing. I can't edit it right now, but I'll convert it to a legal bitrate for you, or you can do this yourself, I use mediacoder.

So then, regardless of whether or not you map the whole thing:
delete one of the audio files in the folder, whichever you're not using.
delete the osb (not required, but it's good practice if there is no storyboard, and if you do it now you shouldn't have to do it again, and you're already going to do a full submit again due to the double mp3).
do a full submit one more time.

(and if you didn't already, it's good form to send the guest mappers a PM about any changes you made. Sometimes it's hard to watch so many maps).
Luneko

theowest wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

He really shouldn't have mapped the full song if you cut it. ;;
Yeah.. .__.
-.-
you had the full mp3 when you told me to make a diff <.<

btw use this updated version, thx

Download: The Quick Brown Fox - Coward Killing Time (theowest) [KillerRind's Yadada].osu
Topic Starter
theowest
-.-
you had the full mp3 when you told me to make a diff <.<

btw use this updated version, thx
I'm sorry man.. I will lengthen the beatmap now. But the question is.. Do you still have your old version..? D: Coz that version is already long.... :( :( :( :( :o :o



ziin wrote:

If it's done, you can move it to pending.

Approval maps are usually long and difficult, breaking a number of "guidelines" along the way. With a short song, though, you're sort of in the ranking category.

This is an easy approval, very hard rank (there's more difficult songs which are ranked by mistake). Perhaps there's a good reason to have a short approval? Maybe the song is very repetitive and doesn't need to be mapped entirely (I don't know/haven't listened to the entire song). I just listened to it because it's still in the osz. There is no reason to cut a 2 minute song. Map the whole thing. I can't edit it right now, but I'll convert it to a legal bitrate for you, or you can do this yourself, I use mediacoder.

So then, regardless of whether or not you map the whole thing:
delete one of the audio files in the folder, whichever you're not using.
delete the osb (not required, but it's good practice if there is no storyboard, and if you do it now you shouldn't have to do it again, and you're already going to do a full submit again due to the double mp3).
do a full submit one more time.

(and if you didn't already, it's good form to send the guest mappers a PM about any changes you made. Sometimes it's hard to watch so many maps).
PLEASE! Do this for me! Convert the full length mp3 to a legal bitrate version! I would appreciate that a lot! Thank you so much for telling me all this! I do have a storyboard in my KABOOM!! difficulty but do you still have to delete the osb file..? I'm not just waiting for you to hopefully convert it to a legal bitrate and then map the whole thing. Therefore I must also wait for the other guys to map theirs. When this is done I just need a few mods and then I'm done! :D

EDIT:
I deleted the osb file which is not required. I didn't find it had an purpose in life so I killed it...



Oh shiet. My bad internet just made me double post. D:
Crimmi
Topic Starter
theowest

CrimmiSkye wrote:

Meh, Better Late Than Never...
Yaay! Sure hope it's good. I'm going to download it as soon as my internet works on my computer. :D

EDIT:

I'm sorry dude.. But this doesn't make the cut. I hate throwing away all your hard work but this is not what I would like to see. :( :( :o :o
I'm giving the kudosu as a way of saying thanks for your hard work.
ziin
perhaps ways to make it better/why you didn't like the difficulty?

Now then, here's the mp3 at 192 kbps since it's so short.
http://puu.sh/Rej

you can download the old versions of the osu files in this thread if you wanted the fully mapped guest difficulty.

Finally, if you have storyboard embedded inside the osu file, then that's fine, but if you have a global storyboard you need the osb. It doesn't seem like you need it, though.
Topic Starter
theowest

ziin wrote:

perhaps ways to make it better/why you didn't like the difficulty? No. It sucks too much.. And it will take too much time. ;__;

Now then, here's the mp3 at 192 kbps since it's so short.
http://puu.sh/Rej

you can download the old versions of the osu files in this thread if you wanted the fully mapped guest difficulty. OH YEAH! xD

Finally, if you have storyboard embedded inside the osu file, then that's fine, but if you have a global storyboard you need the osb. It doesn't seem like you need it, though.
Okay! THANKS AGAIN! :D



KillerRind's diff seriously needs some modding. Which is why I'm modding it right now!!
Please help me by modding it too!

KillerRind's Yadada:

Copy and paste this in to the osu file of your diff.
SPOILER
[Editor]
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Delete these finishes:
00:21:560
00:22:760
00:33:560
00:47:360

Why the kai time here: 01:47:622? It's the end and just looks wrong dancing around without any continuation.

Don't be shy to use more 1/8 sliders and put the 1/4 and 1/8 sliders closer together. It's quite easy to FC and you're suppose to make this hard y'know!

Other than that it's actually quite good! :D
I have already changed the offset for the new mp3 so you don't have to do that.
OzzyOzrock
I'd be willing to map the full song if you lengthen it.
Topic Starter
theowest

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I'd be willing to map the full song if you lengthen it.
I have lengthened it now! Redownload the beatmap!
Luneko

theowest wrote:

I have lengthened it now! Redownload the beatmap!
u can download my original beatmap from my previous post

EDIT : I will edit my map a bit so wait for me to post, and im not going to make it harder its hard enough imo and it was supposed to be a hard not an insane
Topic Starter
theowest

KillerRind wrote:

theowest wrote:

I have lengthened it now! Redownload the beatmap!
u can download my original beatmap from my previous post

EDIT : I will edit my map a bit so wait for me to post, and im not going to make it harder its hard enough imo and it was supposed to be a hard not an insane
okay. I hope you have the new version of the mp3 coz I've uploaded your old diff.
Luneko
I updated my diff
I know its your map but i havent added all the finishes you said because i dont like them <.<
well i hope its ok

Download: The Quick Brown Fox - Coward Killing Time (theowest) [KillerRind's Yadada].osu
Topic Starter
theowest

KillerRind wrote:

I updated my diff
I know its your map but i havent added all the finishes you said because i dont like them <.<
well i hope its ok
Oh.. okay. :lol:

It looks very good! :D
ziin
First let me start off by saying I'm picky with my rhythms. I think it's bad form to have sliders on the offbeat unless it's just for like 1 measure, or it really fits the music. This might fall under the concept of mapping style, so I don't want to force my mapping style on you. Only do this if you like it. Also, generally claps sound best on beats 2 and 4, but not on 1 and 3.

[yadada]
00:14:210 (1,2,3) - offbeat sliders. A way to fix these is to add a circle on the downbeat after the repeating slider beforehand.
00:16:610 (1,2,3) - ^
00:20:510 (1,2) - ^ but this isn't bad since it's only 2. remove the new combo
00:21:260 - add a circle here and a new combo
00:23:810 (1-5) - offbeat sliders
okay there's a lot more offbeat sliders, so I'm not going to call them all out.
00:35:360 (3) - don't be afraid of 8th repeating sliders.
00:55:010 (6) - move 1 beat earlier, use 8ths not 6ths
01:30:972 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is so bad I have to point it out.

there's a lot of 6th repeaters that should probably be 8ths, I don't think I ever heard a triplet in the song actually.
OzzyOzrock
Being that you don't like Kaboom, you could name the diff Heavy or Sandvich lol.
Kubu

theowest wrote:

I would really like them all to be rankable! I've seen a lot of insane beatmaps that are ranked! Like Made of fire - oni, DJ pop's insane for U.N. Owen was her, Haya Saitama2000 - oni, many Kirby mixes, Guillaume Tell - Heavy, Bad apple - Extra, Okuu's Nuclear Fusion Dojo - v2b's insane, Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita - Hard, Chocobo - Gold, Diddy Kong VS Dogadon - Insane, Exciting Hyper, Highspeed Star - Highspeed, V3 - Impossible, Ieavan Polkka Trance Remix - BeuKirby, That's just some very hard beatmaps that's longer and harder than my Insane.
Don't worry, U can't but others can... Rule of mapping
Topic Starter
theowest

kuburaczek wrote:

theowest wrote:

I would really like them all to be rankable! I've seen a lot of insane beatmaps that are ranked! Like Made of fire - oni, DJ pop's insane for U.N. Owen was her, Haya Saitama2000 - oni, many Kirby mixes, Guillaume Tell - Heavy, Bad apple - Extra, Okuu's Nuclear Fusion Dojo - v2b's insane, Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita - Hard, Chocobo - Gold, Diddy Kong VS Dogadon - Insane, Exciting Hyper, Highspeed Star - Highspeed, V3 - Impossible, Ieavan Polkka Trance Remix - BeuKirby, That's just some very hard beatmaps that's longer and harder than my Insane.
Don't worry, U can't but others can... Rule of mapping
I have understood all of that now.. xD
Sander-Don
irc modded ozzy's shit taiko map, ilu ozzy ♥♥
OzzyOzrock

Sander-Don wrote:

irc modded ozzy's shit taiko map, ilu ozzy ♥♥
You're just mad that you can't hit the actually-has-a-rhythm roll. >:3
Topic Starter
theowest

ziin wrote:

First let me start off by saying I'm picky with my rhythms. I think it's bad form to have sliders on the offbeat unless it's just for like 1 measure, or it really fits the music. This might fall under the concept of mapping style, so I don't want to force my mapping style on you. Only do this if you like it. Also, generally claps sound best on beats 2 and 4, but not on 1 and 3.

[yadada]
00:14:210 (1,2,3) - offbeat sliders. A way to fix these is to add a circle on the downbeat after the repeating slider beforehand.
00:16:610 (1,2,3) - ^
00:20:510 (1,2) - ^ but this isn't bad since it's only 2. remove the new combo
00:21:260 - add a circle here and a new combo
00:23:810 (1-5) - offbeat sliders
okay there's a lot more offbeat sliders, so I'm not going to call them all out.
00:35:360 (3) - don't be afraid of 8th repeating sliders.
00:55:010 (6) - move 1 beat earlier, use 8ths not 6ths
01:30:972 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is so bad I have to point it out.

there's a lot of 6th repeaters that should probably be 8ths, I don't think I ever heard a triplet in the song actually.
There's actually about 6 triplets in my diff! :D
Aleks719
KillerRind's Yadada
00:55:010 (6) - 1/8 beats start 1/2 earlier (00:54:860) Make it like in music

omg, that's all x)

Star!
Topic Starter
theowest

Aleks719 wrote:

KillerRind's Yadada
00:55:010 (6) - 1/8 beats start 1/2 earlier (00:54:860) Make it like in music

omg, that's all x)

Star!
Great! I just have to wait for KillerRind then...
Charles445
posting so I can go in the queue when you reopen it

General
BPM's pretty off, might want some help in timing.

OzzyOzrock's Inner Oni
First part was fine, dunno about after 01:42:822; I can't see shit!
Bluh.

KABOOM!!
01:07:610 - Make the turn exactly here on the timeline
01:08:660 - Make this symmetrical, it's ugly as is
01:46:722 - This star could be more symmetrical
01:47:622 - This could be more in the middle
Pretty.

Killer Rind's yadada
00:11:660 - 00:11:960 - 00:12:260 - 00:16:910 - 00:17:210 -
00:18:860 - 00:19:160 - 00:19:460 - 00:19:760 - 00:22:760 -
00:23:810 - 00:24:110 - 00:24:410 - 00:24:710 - 00:25:010 -
00:26:060 - 00:26:360 - 00:26:660 - 00:28:610 - 00:28:910 -
00:29:210 - 00:29:810 - 00:30:860 - 00:31:160 - 00:31:460 -
00:31:760 - 00:34:760 - Offbeat sliders
00:28:160 - Remove a repeat
00:32:960 - ^^
00:35:360 - ^^
00:55:047 - Why does this slider start here why why why
To be honest, it's not very good. You should probably remap it.

I know some of these were brought up earlier, but I found some other things so I'll post it
OzzyOzrock

Charles445 wrote:

OzzyOzrock's Inner Oni
First part was fine, dunno about after 01:42:822; I can't see shit!
Bluh.
That's the point muahahaa
Topic Starter
theowest

Charles445 wrote:

posting so I can go in the queue when you reopen it OKAY! :D

General
BPM's pretty off, might want some help in timing. AH MY GAWD!! D:

OzzyOzrock's Inner Oni
First part was fine, dunno about after 01:42:822; I can't see shit!
Bluh.

KABOOM!!
01:07:610 - Make the turn exactly here on the timeline Great!
01:08:660 - Make this symmetrical, it's ugly as is I DON'T GET THAT? SHOW WITH A PICTURE OR SOMETHING!! D:
01:46:722 - This star could be more symmetrical Yah, I want it to look that way.
01:47:622 - This could be more in the middle I moved it a bit to the right so it's more in the middle.
Pretty.

Killer Rind's yadada
00:11:660 - 00:11:960 - 00:12:260 - 00:16:910 - 00:17:210 -
00:18:860 - 00:19:160 - 00:19:460 - 00:19:760 - 00:22:760 -
00:23:810 - 00:24:110 - 00:24:410 - 00:24:710 - 00:25:010 -
00:26:060 - 00:26:360 - 00:26:660 - 00:28:610 - 00:28:910 -
00:29:210 - 00:29:810 - 00:30:860 - 00:31:160 - 00:31:460 -
00:31:760 - 00:34:760 - Offbeat sliders
00:28:160 - Remove a repeat
00:32:960 - ^^
00:35:360 - ^^
00:55:047 - Why does this slider start here why why why
To be honest, it's not very good. You should probably remap it. I agree. :(

I know some of these were brought up earlier, but I found some other things so I'll post it
Firo Prochainezo
This map is crazy.

Here is my best offset: 2,062. And also, why did you added a new timing section in 01:16:411?
Luneko
Killer Rind's yadada
00:11:660 - 00:11:960 - 00:12:260 - 00:16:910 - 00:17:210 -
00:18:860 - 00:19:160 - 00:19:460 - 00:19:760 - 00:22:760 -
00:23:810 - 00:24:110 - 00:24:410 - 00:24:710 - 00:25:010 -
00:26:060 - 00:26:360 - 00:26:660 - 00:28:610 - 00:28:910 -
00:29:210 - 00:29:810 - 00:30:860 - 00:31:160 - 00:31:460 -
00:31:760 - 00:34:760 - Offbeat sliders i like them :/ they are following the "lyrics" good imo :/
00:28:160 - Remove a repeat k
00:32:960 - ^^ k
00:35:360 - ^^ k
00:55:047 - Why does this slider start here why why why moved it
To be honest, it's not very good. You should probably remap it.

I know some of these were brought up earlier, but I found some other things so I'll post it[/quote]

heres the new one
if you dont like it, remove it i dont want to remap it

Download: The Quick Brown Fox - Coward Killing Time (theowest) [KillerRind's Yadada].osu
Sakura
Timing request:

BPM: 200.100
Offset: 11,658

That's what i found, Good Luck with your map
Foster Don
Taiko Level is crazy :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Topic Starter
theowest

lordfoster wrote:

Taiko Level is crazy :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I'm very glad to hear that! :)
OzzyOzrock
Why is the BPM 400 now?
Topic Starter
theowest

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Why is the BPM 400 now?
Last time it was 200 BPM because the original 400 was too fast for the slider tick rate for easy and normal. But we ain't got those no more y'know.
I'm changing the BPM and Offset as soon as I can.



Updated the BPM and offset now.. I refuse to resnap everything for the other diffs. KillerRind and OzzyOzrock should do that. >.<

EDIT: I changed it for you guys too. :D
OzzyOzrock
orz orz orz orz orz srs? orz orz orz orz orz

Wait, mine looks like it's snapped right. Yay
Topic Starter
theowest

OzzyOzrock wrote:

orz orz orz orz orz srs? orz orz orz orz orz

Wait, mine looks like it's snapped right. Yay
Nah. I was nice to change it for you too. <3

EDIT: I changed it for KillerRinds diff too.
DerekMcD
Here's the star...
Topic Starter
theowest
BUMP...
Hitomi May
FUCK YEAH! :D
Musty
:oops:

Topic Starter
theowest

Mustaash wrote:

:oops:


Daem! That's pretty good dude! :D
OzzyOzrock
I think you're supposed to add KillerRind and my name to the tags. Even if it's in the description.
Topic Starter
theowest

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I think you're supposed to add KillerRind and my name to the tags. Even if it's in the description.
Oh. Okay. :D
Yunacat
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM o:
Neko_Ray
awesome map~
Topic Starter
theowest

Neko_Ray wrote:

awesome map~
Thank you so fucking much. :D
roleykatsu
YA TATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA.

MORE KUDOSU, LESS PENDING.
OzzyOzrock

Roley wrote:

YA TATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA.

MORE KUDOSU, LESS PENDING.
NOW IS BEATMAP APPROVING TIME
Topic Starter
theowest

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Roley wrote:

YA TATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA.

MORE KUDOSU, LESS PENDING.
NOW IS BEATMAP APPROVING TIME
MORE BATs, LESS PENDING!!
NOW IS LOOKING FOR BATs TIME


We need 2 BATs to get this beatmap approved I believe.
Shiirn

theowest wrote:

We need 2 BATs to get this beatmap approved I believe.
Two bubbles (one can be a MAT) and a BAT rank.
Topic Starter
theowest

Shiirn wrote:

theowest wrote:

We need 2 BATs to get this beatmap approved I believe.
Two bubbles (one can be a MAT) and a BAT rank.
OH! So.. I should say: Two bubbles request next time.. Yeah.

EDIT: MATs and BATs hate that. Bugging them through chat is easier. :D
Mashley
ok
Topic Starter
theowest
YAY! NOW LET'S GET THIS SHIET APPROVED. :D :D :D
superoven
This chart is great, seriously, it needs to get ranked already. *Star
Topic Starter
theowest

superoven wrote:

This chart is great, seriously, it needs to get ranked already. *Star
*approved. And yeah. I totally agree with ya'. :D
OzzyOzrock
You'll hate me but...
Download: The Quick Brown Fox - Coward Killing Time (theowest) [OzzyOzrock's Inner Oni].osu
Added a more gradual effect to the speed-ups. Makes it more readable.

To make it not so in vain... I'll... mention that... uhh.... th-the sliders you kept from the older versions don't look as nice as the ones you recently added. Examples like...

00:43:745 (4) - Make it a more even curve
01:07:433 (6) - Rather than that obscure shape, use a red point.
01:08:632 (1) - Make it symmetrical.
01:12:230 (6) - Make it a beautiful wave.

Unless these comply to the spacing or something lol. Either way, adding my update isn't horribly necessary though lol.
Topic Starter
theowest

OzzyOzrock wrote:

You'll hate me but...
[attachment=0:50730]The Quick Brown Fox - Coward Killing Time (theowest) [OzzyOzrock's Inner Oni].osu[/attachment:50730]
Added a more gradual effect to the speed-ups. Makes it more readable.

To make it not so in vain... I'll... mention that... uhh.... th-the sliders you kept from the older versions don't look as nice as the ones you recently added. Examples like...

00:43:745 (4) - Make it a more even curve Like this? :O
01:07:433 (6) - Rather than that obscure shape, use a red point. No, I like it this way.
01:08:632 (1) - Make it symmetrical. HOW?? CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SHOW WITH A PIC?!?! I DON GET IT!! *RAGE*
01:12:230 (6) - Make it a beautiful wave. Like this? :O

Unless these comply to the spacing or something lol. Either way, adding my update isn't horribly necessary though lol.
NOO.. I'll never hate you! :D Thank you!



I've now added custom failsound, combobreak and comboburst! :D

I hope you guys like it.
Tenshi-nyan
Ahhh so that was the loud sound I heard... t'was the popping of thy bubble.
Topic Starter
theowest

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

Ahhh so that was the loud sound I heard... t'was the popping of thy bubble.
Indeed... :(
But I'll get it bubbled back again in no time. I'll just have to wait for some responses of my newly added sounds, Ozzy's taiko diff and comboburst. What do you think?
A8mew
I can't believe I hadn't starred this already.
Topic Starter
theowest
Bump. Please MAT, mod this beatmap! ;___;



BUMP. Can I has mod naow?
Lesjuh
KillerRind
00:54:914 (6) - Start 1/4 earlier & extend to 00:56:039

Just that and I'll bubble it.
Topic Starter
theowest

Lesjuh wrote:

KillerRind
00:54:914 (6) - Start 1/4 earlier & extend to 00:56:039

Just that and I'll bubble it.
Done.
Can I has bubble noaw? :3
Lesjuh
Coward killing time!~

Approval bubble #1
Fight69
A bit late, but here's a star ! :D
Ijah_old
Awesome map! star~

(P.S, those triple whistle sliders are orgasmic)
Kurosanyan
aston_old
star 3:
Weez
oh my ._.
Pereira006
lol
narakucrimson
o7
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