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Kotori-Chan

Joined February 2014

Kotori-Chan 2017-03-03T16:09:03+00:00

i'm such a idiot....why did you not remind me to mod DDDDD:

Easy

00:39:425 (1) - idk but having that slider here straight looks kinda meh to me,you can blanket it better if you are maybe gonna use 00:38:019 (3) - again or maybe you can think of an even better shape ! :3
00:45:050 (1,2) - these two could have the same shape https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7471985 looks kinda better to me
i mean you did it everywhere else 00:50:675 (1,2) - 00:56:299 (1,2) - so why not these two 00:45:050 (1,2) - :>
02:26:293 (1) - i think this would be better on x258 y218

Normal

pls fix this~ http://puu.sh/usuE8/98bec5e27f.png

00:45:050 (1) - are sv changes allowed in normals ? never really saw some before in normal diffs
01:00:518 (5) - having this one straight is kinda meh to me personal,why not make it curved,would also better blanket with 01:01:924 (1) - then
02:09:419 (1,2) - could be the same~
02:15:044 - about the break,in all other normals that strong guitar sounds are mapped
so is kinda a bit weird that this is the only diff where they are not mapped,just saying~

oh and btw,sv is kinda a bit fast imo D:

Hard

seems all fine to me :3

Insane

00:07:642 (2) - this is SO silent,not really necessary imo
00:31:516 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - you know what i find boring about that jumps and why i think they are bad ? because of this 00:33:098 -
that sound is pretty different imo and needs some special attention,but that jumps how you made them rn have nothing really special there,maybe you can make them 00:33:098 (1,2,3,4,1) - some kind of left-right jumps that slowly get bit more intense,that would suit better and represent that sound more
00:35:207 - same goes for this,gets completely lost and ignored,maybe a 1/1 slider ?
00:38:019 - ^^^^
00:44:347 (1,2,3,4) - here you did it correct,different shape of jumps that represents that sounds there better
00:57:705 (1) - centered PLS D:

Determination

actually looks good to me or i'm just too stupid again runs

just some minor thingys,this map is already pretty perfect imo,probably some more little minor things here and there,but thats it~
good luck !
:3

-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

-Atri- 2017-03-03T17:03:36+00:00

fatfan kolek in 2017

Mazziv

998 posts

Joined July 2013

Mazziv 2017-03-03T17:04:00+00:00

Kotori-Chan wrote:
i'm such a idiot....why did you not remind me to mod DDDDD:

Hard

seems all fine to me :3

aaaaaaaayyyyyy that means a lot to me

just some minor thingys,this map is already pretty perfect imo,probably some more little minor things here and there,but thats it~
good luck !
:3

Rumia-

2,513 posts

Joined July 2012

Rumia- 2017-03-04T08:21:22+00:00

since fatfan kolek already replied for me to lasse's post i think everything there is good

Bakari wrote:
Yo, sorry about being such a slowpoke

[Rumi's Insane]
The ticking hitsounds that were used during 01:52:194 (7) - had no connection with the instruments in the actual song and felt quite out of place to me. Moreover, I feel like they don't give enough variety and feel too spammed and monotonous. fixed already
00:00:084 (1) - 00:02:896 (1) - 00:04:302 (1) - 00:05:708 (1) - 00:11:333 (1) - 00:12:739 (1) -00:15:551 (1) - every time the beat is repeated a different slidershape is used. I personally feel like this gives a feeling of randomness/inconsistency, as there is little to no variation in the song itself. I would rather try to stick to more or less repetitive appearance, unless you were trying to do something different here. for me there is no reason to actually use same slider shape for everytime it repeats , it doesnt even repeat at the same tone which is not even causing inconsistency , i really like consistency but this specific map i want to express pattern more than just mere consistency , it doesnt affect gameplay ( and i dont think myself finding it random when playing it at all too )

Actually, the same thing would apply to the jumps, as they also left me quite puzzled. For instance, 00:02:017 (2,3,4) - these use quite a large spacing, yet they follow relatively quiet sounds,yet, the beat which is actually strong 00:02:896 (1) - recieved practically no spacing emphasis. Then you did sort of a similar thing with 00:10:981 (3,4,1) - where 3-4 had no beats strong enough to support the jump. And the jumps issue happens quite often. 00:25:364 (1,2,3) - here, (3) is supported with synth, but doesn't have any kind of spacing increase, yet pretty weak 00:25:891 (2) - has a nice and pretty strong jump even though it doesn't have anything strong enough to justify the jump. The same lack of spacing emphasis would apply to 01:36:375 (5,1) - i just reduced the first jump so everything else is settled then.
00:38:371 - the beat here is strong enough and it is supported with a clap hitsound, I believe it is better if we place a clickable object here. This way players will be able to feel the song better as they will be forced to actually *click* on that very beat. uhm im focusing much more on the guitar since the drum is just too plain and boring , though it supports with a strong beat i made the spacing higher so people can actually tell , and here is the consistency of following instrument 00:38:019 (1,2,3,4) - and i dont like to break this

In general, it felt like there is lack of correlation between the spacing changes in the map and actual beat of the song. The way hitsounds were applied also added some discomfort to the overall impression. It's like an okayish map that wanders off music at times. was one of my earliest map so sorry for not impressing

almost all fixed in kotori's except the first one , i dont think its not necessary so yea
ty

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112,144,127837,6,0,P|128:56|232:32,1,200
240,36,128277,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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428,116,133814,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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403,122,135747,1,2,0:0:0:0:
403,122,135923,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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204,316,146293,5,0,0:0:0:0:
304,264,146469,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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488,228,147172,1,0,0:0:0:0:
492,80,147348,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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320,44,149457,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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300,152,149809,2,0,P|376:164|408:276,1,200,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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184,208,150688,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,260,150863,1,8,0:0:0:0:
260,76,151039,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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100,68,154906,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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288,356,157543,5,0,0:0:0:0:
288,356,157718,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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32,148,158773,6,0,P|104:176|136:296,1,200
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392,164,160531,1,0,0:0:0:0:
276,176,160706,1,8,0:0:0:0:
348,48,160882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
257,270,161058,2,0,P|190:201|212:108,1,200,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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100,188,162113,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,288,162288,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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268,77,163167,6,0,P|176:36|88:80,1,200,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2017-03-08T19:37:00+00:00

Bakari wrote:
[Little's Normal]
00:16:957 (1,2) - since that's the only overlap of that kind it feels somewhat unwanted/unintended. If there is a way to avoid it, please do. Changed to circles.
00:50:675 (1,2,3) - if you intend top represent the 1/1 beats the best way to do it is by using actual 1/1 sliders. The aggressive slidercurves feel quite out of place as none of those were used before and they don't give enough emphasis to the beats. I think it's not so bad, since there are notes in between, but I adjusted slightly to make it less jarring.
Note: it goes for all similar sliders like 00:56:299 (1) -

I can't say I agree with the way you have mapped it. I don't have anything against the style you have chosen, yet I don't agree with certain design ideas like those sliders and spacing being set to x0.8. It gives the unplesant feeling of disbalance between slider velocity and the Distance Spacing as sliders are actually faster than normal object-to-object cursor speed. Perhaps, it is just me, though. Seems fine to me. Using this distance allows me to vary the SV more without having parts that feel like big jumps.

Kotori-Chan wrote:
Normal

pls fix this~ http://puu.sh/usuE8/98bec5e27f.png ok, fixed stack.

00:45:050 (1) - are sv changes allowed in normals ? never really saw some before in normal diffs They are allowed.
01:00:518 (5) - having this one straight is kinda meh to me personal,why not make it curved,would also better blanket with 01:01:924 (1) - then Changed stuff.
02:09:419 (1,2) - could be the same~ I think current one is fine.
02:15:044 - about the break,in all other normals that strong guitar sounds are mapped I prefer not to map that. Sticking to drums.
so is kinda a bit weird that this is the only diff where they are not mapped,just saying~

oh and btw,sv is kinda a bit fast imo D:

Thanks.
http://puu.sh/uA4JB/bdc1617442.zip

Fatfan Kolek

589 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

Fatfan Kolek 2017-03-08T20:38:08+00:00

Bakari wrote:
Yo, sorry about being such a slowpoke

[General]
Colours 5 and 6 are pretty similar, so I guess I would rather remove one of these and make them differ even more. So that the set looks even brighter and more diverse. fixed it i think
You really should enable kiai time on both lines.
lol fixed

[Easy.]
It has a total of 4 different slider velocities, two of which are nearly identical. (x0,75 / x0,8) . I personally don't find the velocity changes to be a must for this difficulty. While I do agree that x0.75 does work quite well for the into, the higher velocity multipliers (x1,2 ones) do not seem to be necessary at all. They make the whole difficulty feel too fast (mind the BPM and the fact that SV was high even without any multipliers)
02:02:389 (3,4,2) - not exactly fond of the overlapping here. Perhaps, you coud have avoided that as both the structure and appearance stand out for no actual reason. yeah, made a new pattern. that happens when you apply to many mods on a diff xD

The velocity thing really makes me feel like this difficulty does not function as the easiest difficulty well enough. ok, i removed the high SV on the second kiai part, i hope i makes the diff feel better :>

[Determination]
00:33:625 (2,1) - (1) is a much stronger beat than (2) in this case. So, it should be (1) that has a stronger jump. Same happens in a number of patterns, for instance 00:44:874 (2,1). but to me it's not really stronger
00:54:893 (1,2) - I didn't quite catch the idea of mapping similar sounds with completely different slidershapes. Mind explaining that, please? was symmetrical before, changed it because of a mod, now it's symmetrical again LUL
01:06:142 (1,1,1,2,3,1) - new combos in general feel a bit spammed, I would rather just place one on 01:05:791 (6) - and remove the new combos on 01:06:142 (1,1,1) - oki fixed
02:57:229 (1) - probably should be flipped upside down to show a lovely heart in the middle. i explained that to you in game

Apart from the new combos that felt overused it was pretty enjoyable experieence. thanks!
It feels like a set with a good deal of potential, all you have to do is to work on it more.

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Best of luck!

Kotori-Chan wrote:
i'm such a idiot....why did you not remind me to mod DDDDD:

Easy

00:39:425 (1) - idk but having that slider here straight looks kinda meh to me,you can blanket it better if you are maybe gonna use 00:38:019 (3) - again or maybe you can think of an even better shape ! :3 made a zigzagthingy shape xD idk how to call it
00:45:050 (1,2) - these two could have the same shape https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7471985 looks kinda better to me
i mean you did it everywhere else 00:50:675 (1,2) - 00:56:299 (1,2) - so why not these two 00:45:050 (1,2) - :> they look good to me ;c
02:26:293 (1) - i think this would be better on x258 y218 oki fixed :3

KuranteMelodii wrote:
fatfan kolek in 2017 :thinking:

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2017-03-17T13:19:39+00:00

[Easy]

Please use consistent sv in easy. So 0.75x 0.8x 1.0x and 1.25x choose 1 to use consistently.

00:08:169 (1,2) - 00:19:418 (1,2) - kinda inappropriate to stack in easy, you know it
01:03:330 (2,3,1) - seems like a pattern in normal
01:13:173 (1,2) - they almost overlap
01:29:695 - should add a circle for the strong downbeat.
01:30:047 (1,3) - this might be 'ok' but imo its confusing for newbies since 3 appears before 1 disappears.
02:08:013 (3,4) - the antiflow is really hard to hit
02:14:692 (4) - unsnapped?

[Normal]

00:18:364 (3) - spacing is quite inconsistent here
01:09:482 (5,1) - avoid the stack here cuz really confusing,refer to 01:15:107 (5,1) -
01:52:546 (1,2) - 02:03:795 (1,2) - 02:09:419 (1,2) - aesthetics
01:54:127 (4) - 1/2 slider instead? that seems better than merely 2 circles here
01:56:236 (3) - etc same, i see you used a lot of doubles here but honestly i feel that's kinda too intense and it's not kiai. Use a slider instead of a circle can reduce intensity.
02:53:362 (1) - i dont think u need a nc

[Hard]

The S sampleset really annoys me cuz you can here that sharp slider body sound from the beginning

00:11:333 (3) - NC
00:16:957 (1) - cancel NC for consistency
00:24:661 (7,8) - really loud and terrible to use 2 finishes here..
00:35:910 (7,8) - spacing is too big as a hard
00:53:839 (2,3) - etc just use a 3/4 slider,there's not even a sound 00:54:014 - ,now its way too intense
01:06:845 (6,7,8) - idk if timing is right but these notes seem off
01:09:921 - 01:12:031 - etc not gonna map the triples?
01:28:465 - why ignore
01:54:918 - etc same thing, i feel you should map the 1/4s cuz there are pretty obvious sounds
01:56:764 (5,6,7) - looks ugly tbh
02:13:638 (5) - nc
02:36:839 (5,6) - probably dont stack cuz it breaks flow
Could be better in terms of rhythm and aesthetics. I dont even spot 1/4s (or there might be very few),but there're a lot more places u can map

[Determination]

00:06:411 (1,2) - idk why spacing is so big compared to 00:05:708 (1,2) - 00:07:114 (1,2) - etc? same sound
00:16:606 (3,4,1,2) - spacing can be reduced cuz its intro and not even a drum
00:30:988 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - a bit stupid to put 1212 jumps here..........the music isnt really intense and as ive said these notes are just following drums which cant represent music.
00:42:238 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - same here,they are mapped for aesthetics rather than music.The intensity is actually similar to 00:39:425 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - but you dealt with it with a totally different way..
00:50:235 (5) - etc can be deleted cuz they are too vague and according to the instrument ure following
00:59:112 (1) - aesthetics..this looks imbalanced

Top diff still lacks quality imo, some jumps are kinda random and lack aesthetics. Especially the 1212 ones. Overall there's quite some space for improvement. Not going to recheck cuz too busy with uni...so yeah,good luck~

Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2017-03-17T17:12:05+00:00

lol I just changed from 1/2 sliders to 2 circles a few mods ago -_
@Fatfan Kolek ~~I'm going to remap my diff when I have time.~~ Got busy... you can fix my diff if you need to.

Mazziv

998 posts

Joined July 2013

Mazziv 2017-04-17T18:52:43+00:00

dead? :/

Fatfan Kolek

589 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

Fatfan Kolek 2017-09-10T10:29:47+00:00

k it's back now xD

fixed the svs on easy and made a few changes to the last diff according to sahuang's mod :d

i wanna get this rolling again :3

Mazziv

998 posts

Joined July 2013

Mazziv 2017-09-11T07:25:55+00:00

AYYYY

-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

953 posts

Joined December 2012

-Mo- 2017-09-14T14:59:27+00:00

Easy
- 00:43:995 (2,3,1) - Might as well keep these the same spacing, even the SV changes, just so it looks neater.
- 02:54:416 (3,4,1,2,3) - Might work better to have this as one combo rather than how you split them currently.

Little's Normal
- 00:22:552 - Red and green line has inconsistent kiai.
- 00:29:231 (2,3) - 00:33:449 (4,1) - 00:40:480 (2,3) etc - I would say it's better to not stack 1/1, since you're already stacking 1/2 earlier on, just so it's easier to handle and read for beginners.
- 01:49:733 (1,4) - You might as well avoid this overlap.
- 02:01:686 (2) - This has the drum slider-slide over it for some reason.
- 02:07:837 (4) - Not sure if the drum-normal is missing or intentional, but might as well point it out.

Maz' Hard
- 00:00:084 - Red and green lines have different samplesets.
- 00:22:200 (4,1) - I'd say this would look neater if this has the same spacing as 00:21:849 (3,4).
- 00:30:988 (1,2,3) - This combo could look neater I think. Slider 3 doesn't really point from circle 2 that well while everything else in this section does.
- 01:20:731 (2,3) - This overlap might as well be avoided. It would look neater if there was even spacing between 1-2-3 (DS doesn't have to be the same).
- 01:31:805 (2,3) - I would nudge these away from each other so they don't look like they're almost touching.
- 01:44:460 (2,3) - Similar thing, barely overlapping like this doesn't look too good in my opinion.
- 01:47:624 (3) - You might as well keep this a regular curve instead of linear so it pairs with 01:49:030 (3).
- 02:08:013 (1,4) - This overlap should be avoided too.
- 02:09:419 (1,2,3,4) - I think using two different kinds of angles for this combo looks kind of rough (1-2-3 is basically right-angled, and 2-3-4 is wide). Try to simplify the pattern a bit.
- 02:11:176 (2,3) - I don't think this needs emphasis by going against your general structure and increasing spacing. Most of your map has combos with clear paths rather than crossing over each other like you did here.
- 02:54:416 - I don't think this final section needs larger spacing between objects. In my opinion, the climax of the song has already passed where this is calmer in comparison, and since this is leading up to the outro, it would work better with less intense patterns and spacing.
- Widescreen SB might as well be turned off too.

Rumi's Insane
- 00:00:084 - Red and green lines have different samplesets.
- 00:22:552 - Red and green line has inconsistent kiai.
- 00:08:520 (1,2) - 00:09:224 (3,4) - I would find a way to increase this spacing so that this 1/1 gap is clearer and more obvious, since you just recently used larger spacing for 1/2 rhythm.
- 01:41:296 - Why isn't this drum heard anywhere else in this section? I think it's pretty cool and it's a shame it doesn't come back until after the next kiai.
- 01:53:424 (2,3) - This spacing feels kind of excessive and doesn't seem to be consistent with the rest of this section.
- 01:57:819 (5) - Would be cool if this was a linear curve like 01:57:116 (3,4).

Determination
- 00:32:395 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - 00:43:644 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - I feel like it would be more representative of the music for this to have decreasing spacing since the pitch is also decreasing, rather than having the whole thing be about the same (and for the final jump to be the largest).
- 02:29:106 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I expected larger spacing patterns for this given the spacing of the other combos in this section, and how much more intense the music is from the background whatever you call that instrument. This pattern feels kind of underwhelming.
- 02:34:730 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Kind of similar, I expected these initial jumps to be the larger ones since there's more change in the music going on here.
- 02:36:137 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - On the other hand, since the music doesn't change any more, continuing to increase the spacing doesn't seem to make much sense. 02:37:191 (1,2) makes even less sense to be the largest jump since it's not even supported by that held high pitch synth thing anymore.

Mostly pretty neat. I would personally like to see some more work on polishing the Hard a little more before I come back to this.

Fatfan Kolek

589 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

Fatfan Kolek 2017-09-14T15:45:40+00:00

-Mo- wrote:
Easy
- 00:43:995 (2,3,1) - Might as well keep these the same spacing, even the SV changes, just so it looks neater. Alrighty, fixed
- 02:54:416 (3,4,1,2,3) - Might work better to have this as one combo rather than how you split them currently. Lol, you're right, fixed

Determination
- 00:32:395 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - 00:43:644 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - I feel like it would be more representative of the music for this to have decreasing spacing since the pitch is also decreasing, rather than having the whole thing be about the same (and for the final jump to be the largest). yea, i feel you here, it was kind of outdated and an old pattern, changed it to make it more fitting
- 02:29:106 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I expected larger spacing patterns for this given the spacing of the other combos in this section, and how much more intense the music is from the background whatever you call that instrument. This pattern feels kind of underwhelming. Mhh, I don't really set it that way, for me the sounds who remind me of the soft whistle are calmer than the rest of this part, that's why i mapped it with lower spacing
- 02:34:730 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Kind of similar, I expected these initial jumps to be the larger ones since there's more change in the music going on here. oof, i tried a lot of patterns wih different spacing variations already on this one, because i struggle on them for some reason. I could argue that the guitar sound with the onholding intense sound is worth the spacing. Idk, haven't found another pattern which i feel is good for it and satisfies me :/
- 02:36:137 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - On the other hand, since the music doesn't change any more, continuing to increase the spacing doesn't seem to make much sense. 02:37:191 (1,2) makes even less sense to be the largest jump since it's not even supported by that held high pitch synth thing anymore. ^

Mazziv

998 posts

Joined July 2013

Mazziv 2017-09-14T16:04:31+00:00

-Mo- wrote:
Maz' Hard
- 00:00:084 - Red and green lines have different samplesets. woops
- 00:22:200 (4,1) - I'd say this would look neater if this has the same spacing as 00:21:849 (3,4). x
- 00:30:988 (1,2,3) - This combo could look neater I think. Slider 3 doesn't really point from circle 2 that well while everything else in this section does. i dont quite get what the problem is here :/
- 01:20:731 (2,3) - This overlap might as well be avoided. It would look neater if there was even spacing between 1-2-3 (DS doesn't have to be the same). i like the overlap and it doesnt really do anyhing major so it should be fine
- 01:31:805 (2,3) - I would nudge these away from each other so they don't look like they're almost touching.
- 01:44:460 (2,3) - Similar thing, barely overlapping like this doesn't look too good in my opinion. since i did that already before i think its fine
- 01:47:624 (3) - You might as well keep this a regular curve instead of linear so it pairs with 01:49:030 (3). i did this kinda pattern here already 01:35:672 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - curver > ankle
- 02:08:013 (1,4) - This overlap should be avoided too. fixd! inv4 overlap with other object: its not visible during gameplay
- 02:09:419 (1,2,3,4) - I think using two different kinds of angles for this combo looks kind of rough (1-2-3 is basically right-angled, and 2-3-4 is wide). Try to simplify the pattern a bit. i dont really think this pattern is ''hard'' you have a simple ccwise motion
- 02:11:176 (2,3) - I don't think this needs emphasis by going against your general structure and increasing spacing. Most of your map has combos with clear paths rather than crossing over each other like you did here. i just think that at the end i can do some trickier stuff as in the beginning or in the middle also id like to do bring in some variety
- 02:54:416 - I don't think this final section needs larger spacing between objects. In my opinion, the climax of the song has already passed where this is calmer in comparison, and since this is leading up to the outro, it would work better with less intense patterns and spacing. the song still has power at the end which is emphasized by a big spacing i think that should be okay
- Widescreen SB might as well be turned off too. ++

Mostly pretty neat. I would personally like to see some more work on polishing the Hard a little more before I come back to this.

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252,88,160882,1,2,2:2:0:0:
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320,20,163694,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Fatfan Kolek

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Joined January 2013

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Fatfan Kolek 2017-09-14T16:41:34+00:00

updated easy, hard and extra diff.. also fixed the small errors mazziv was too lazy for LOL

i'll got through normal and insane now as they gave me permission to long ago

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-Mo- wrote:
Little's Normal
- 00:22:552 - Red and green line has inconsistent kiai. fixed
- 00:29:231 (2,3) - 00:33:449 (4,1) - 00:40:480 (2,3) etc - I would say it's better to not stack 1/1, since you're already stacking 1/2 earlier on, just so it's easier to handle and read for beginners. i think it's fine, because it's a normal. On an easy map this would be more of an issue imo
- 01:49:733 (1,4) - You might as well avoid this overlap. lol fixed
- 02:01:686 (2) - This has the drum slider-slide over it for some reason.vfoxed
- 02:07:837 (4) - Not sure if the drum-normal is missing or intentional, but might as well point it out. faxed

Rumi's Insane
- 00:00:084 - Red and green lines have different samplesets. fixed
- 00:22:552 - Red and green line has inconsistent kiai. fixed
- 00:08:520 (1,2) - 00:09:224 (3,4) - I would find a way to increase this spacing so that this 1/1 gap is clearer and more obvious, since you just recently used larger spacing for 1/2 rhythm. mhh, i think he made that clear with how he made that pattern, i wont change it, it's fine honestly c:
- 01:41:296 - Why isn't this drum heard anywhere else in this section? I think it's pretty cool and it's a shame it doesn't come back until after the next kiai. oof, you can hear it as the last hitsound though idk it's ok though i dont wanna overuse
- 01:53:424 (2,3) - This spacing feels kind of excessive and doesn't seem to be consistent with the rest of this section. ye i agree, fixed
- 01:57:819 (5) - Would be cool if this was a linear curve like 01:57:116 (3,4). also fixed