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IceBeam
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 20 декабря 2010 г. at 0:12:56

Artist: Wiklund
Title: Billy Boogie
Tags: Chiptune Gonzvlo
BPM: 170
Filesize: 6772kb
Play Time: 02:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Flower (4,99 stars, 418 notes)
  2. Gonz (4,45 stars, 298 notes)
  3. Normal (2,64 stars, 158 notes)
Download: Wiklund - Billy Boogie
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3-rd beatmap

chiptune music

Another Wiklund song.It was originally mapped by yeahyeahyeahhh for his Wiklund project,but this one is going for ranking.

Storyboard by ZLOdeuka

Guest difficulty by Gonzvlo

Credits to Ultimate for his Blue Factor skin!

It was a really big work,so thanks everyone who helped me with it!
Last edited by IceBeam , edited 18 times in total.
Derfas13
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Derfas13
*** Star ***
Louis Cyphre
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Louis Cyphre
Evil Star~ :3
And inlife modding :3
IceBeam
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IceBeam
Thanks bros.

Kudos for some irc help~
yeahyeahyeahhh
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yeahyeahyeahhh
02:02:848 (1) - illegal use of timing section, cant use to slow down red timing points
Gonzvlo
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Gonzvlo
General
  1. Since you used a custom name for Insane you should use one for normal too.
  2. Crop transparent pixels on: "1.png", "2.png" and "Wo.png", Those are small files so it's not that important, do it you feel like it.
  3. The max size for SB files is 800 x 600, "bm_icebeam" is 859 x 91 and "sb_zlodeuka" is 1021 x 88, You need to resize those files.
  4. Delete the file in the "SB" folder: "Thumbs.db"
  5. The mp3 file must have a bit rate between 192kbps and 128kbps (This one is 256kbps, needs re-encoding).
  6. Disable Letterboxing during Breaks.
Normal
  1. 01:39:024 - Add a circle here.
  2. 02:26:142 (3,4,5) - Make this stream go down , It looks better imo.
Flower
  1. 00:09:730 (7,1) - You should Unstack (1)
  2. 00:12:554 (6,1) - ^
  3. 00:16:260 (3,4) - This looks weird I would suggest to stack (4)
  4. 02:02:848 (1) - This is unrankable now :|
  5. 02:26:847 (1) - End this slider here: 02:27:553 & add 4 last circles using wide spacing (1.5x will work)
Great Map, Great SB, Have a Star~
Sandpig
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Sandpig
hi:D

(>'(oo)')> my mod <('(oo)'<)



Flower

00:22:348 (1,1,1,1) - I don't think you need these new combos here

others all fine to me xD


Normal

00:09:730 - add a note?
01:03:907 - ^
02:16:436 (2,3) - I'd like to suggest you not stack them
02:17:848 (5,6) - ^
02:26:142 (3,4,5) - ^




pretty good map,star 8-)
IceBeam
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Nice suggestions,thanks.

Note to next modders:
Do not suggest about custom names,I'll decide about it after getting full mapset.
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IceBeam
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Edit: Sorry for double-posting.

My net is laggy.
dNextGen
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dNextGen
o;
Garven
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Garven
As per your request:

[General]
Move this to WIP if you plan on adding more difficulties.
Yeah, as stated before and in a previous mod, you need to reduce your MP3 bitrate.
Also when you do reencode, consider also cutting the mp3. If you don't plan on mapping more of the song, having 1:30 of extra song unmapped is kinda pointless. Please cut out a good chunk.

[SB]
wo.png has a ton of extra transparency - please cut it off.
Same with 1.png and 2.png (to some extent) Remember to doublecheck your sb after cropping the images.
This is awesome, btw

[Normal]
00:22:613 - I didn't like the kiai fountain here. :/
02:02:848 (3) - More symmetrical code:
200,160,122848,2,0,B|40:248|256:450|472:248|312:160,1,480,0|4
02:16:436 (2,3,5,6) - Hrm... add this style of stack at 02:22:083 (2,3) - and it wouldn't look so weird, me thinks. They almost looked accidental when I came across the 2:22 part.

[Hard]
00:22:260 (1,1,1,1) - Please, no. Just do it as one combo. New combo spam like this messes with the HP drain metric.
00:30:907 (5,6,1) - Haha, I almost thought this was new combo spam again, but the combo colors mixed together to a beautiful hue~
SPOILER
00:47:848 (1,1,1) - As stated before...
00:53:495 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - ^
01:07:083 (3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
01:45:907 (1,1,1,1) - ^
02:02:848 - As yyy stated earlier - you cannot use a BPM change to alter slider speeds anymore. You're going to need to try something else here.
Really fun~

Let me know when you get more difficulties in here and if you have questions about anything.
IceBeam
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IceBeam
Ah..stop hating senseless combos >:(

Thanks again,Garven,fixed everything except fountain(it fits well in Flower)

Edit:
New MP3 file(God bless Garven!),so please redownload if you did it before this post.Thanks!

Note to modders:
  1. SB will be fixed soon
  2. Please,help me to find correct Offset for new MP3 file :|
Armin
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Armin

IceBeam wrote:

Note to modders:
  1. Please,help me to find correct Offset for new MP3 file :|
Offset: +10ms.

In Flower there is a second non-inherited section here 02:04:260, delete it o.o
AdRon Zh3Ro
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AdRon Zh3Ro
[]Nvm...
[*]Change?
[>]Change!

Flower:
*Diff name should have something to do with the song...

>16:966[Spacing]Too much?
>>52:966[Add circle]It's too hard NOT to click that part (missed first 4 plays).
>1:07:172-1:07:348-1:07:524[Remove]Much better.
*2:02:672[Visibility]Kinda hard to see that "watch out".

Normal:
>2:26:142[Spacing]Confusing for normal.

Nice.
cesc
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cesc
NIce work, wow! :O
Kert
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Kert
Star from me
Epic storyboard <3
IceBeam
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IceBeam
Thanks everyone for starring! :)

New offset (God bless Armin!)

adron zhero:
Spacing in Normal was fixed and yeah,Flower is pretty suggestive,I'll consider each opinion,thanks!
kino77
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kino77
Hi~
Map is great~
Just some suggestion,you could ignored them and no kudosu this post~ ;)

[Flower]
00:33:917 (1) - Move further from 6?
01:07:799 (1) - Move further from 9?
01:27:564 (1,2,3,4) - Increase the spacing a little bit or just put them together for I though they were slider at the first time...
01:30:387 (1) - Move further from 5?
02:02:858 - I don't think we need this SB warning~

Double star~ :3
Sunny Holic
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Sunny Holic
anything serious >_<

just advice. not mean wrong.
[Normal]
01:04:093 (2,3) - move to 01:03:917 -
02:11:858 (2,3) - move to 02:11:682 -

[Flower]
funny~~ enjoyable~~

get my ~
Joon
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Joon
hi

my modding

[Normal]
fine

[Flower]
00:54:211 (1) - 2 note remove whistle
01:46:976 (4) - add clap


Good hitsound.
Clap twice, but a bit awkward. But that's okay. ;)
ZLOdeuka-
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ZLOdeuka-
*_*

Download: Wiklund - Billy Boogie (IceBeam).osb
IceBeam
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All suggestions were tested,fixed some.
Thanks for checking and starring!

ZLOdeuka wrote:

*_*
Kudosu for some irc help.
Roddie
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Hello o:

Blue: Suggestions.
Violet: I really think you should fix this in my opinion.
Red: Must be fixed.

Normal:

00:21;917 (4)-Move one grid up.
02:23:505 (x)-Add a note and a clap?
02:23:682 (x)-^

Flower:

00:16:623 (4)-I still think you need to fix that. ._. Just stack it on the end of that slider so it doesn't look bad. xD But its up to you. I won't pressure you on that. :)
00:52:976 (x)-Add a note here. I think it would be better because it would follow the beat.

All and all, The map is fantastic. 8-) And the Storyboard as well.

I got to ask ZLOdeuka on how she did the SB pulse. ._.

Good luck getting this ranked!

Star!

Edit: Typo error. =_=
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Kurai
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[General]
black.jpg and white.jpg should be 640*480

[Normal]
02:23:505 - Add note
02:23:682 - Add note

That's all I can find :D

Star
IceBeam
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Thanks,fixed everything except dat alignin' :P
EvianBubble
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EvianBubble
Wiklund :D
Nice SB! Good job on it :)
I think you need another diff between the two you have now

General
Some SB elements appear to be poorly cut (most notably the earphones, the girl, and 8bit), clean them up (unless it's on purpose of course ...)
The girl is actually a tiny bit smaller than the girl in the BG so it looks as if she's receding slightly with every pulse

Storyboard
Some elements are not snapped (111, 222, etc.) - is this on purpose?
It looks kind of weird when you have the girl expanding then the earphone colour pulse behind it

Normal
00:06:817 (3, 4) - Move one grid right, then (1) one up
00:22:623 - Kiai doesn't fit here, remove it
00:24:917 (5, 6) - One or two grids down
01:04:093 (2, 3) - Feels funny to me, change this?
01:30:387 - Use this pattern? (look at timeline)
SPOILER
01:41:682 - Make this actual Kiai time, end it at 01:52:976?
01:42:211 (2) - Move two up, then (3, 4) one grid right
02:04:270 - Do not want, remove
Spacing changes everwhere but is OK IMO

Flower
Can't pass this sorry OTL I can only offer some asthetic suggestions
00:22:623 - Kiai doesn't fit here >_<
01:41:682 - If you make this Kiai in Normal, do it here too
02:04:270 - No Kiai here

Good luck with this! :D

+1 star
IceBeam
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Thanks Evian.
Luvdic
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Luvdic
I said ill do a mod4mod, so ill do it. What happened with other map was my error.

SB:
Oh not again. SB could have been made with much less effort using loops. Consider using it for your next sb zlodeuka, Wait no, i meant, consider making sb with notepad next time :l
The following files seems to be missing? Delete the entries of them from sb, or add the files
Watch Out!
wo
BbI
sb_zlo2
SB_ZLO
SBZ
volna
I think they are all. I may be too blind and didn't see them in the folder though.

The way that these earphones appears differently than the rest:
They starts appearing at: 9211. Not only that it is differently, it also looks to comes out late.

There is a girl.png that is not correctly scalated, the one that appears at 57211 ms. Unless it was on purpose, but in any case, it looks bad for me :T

Also there are some minor misalignment of the sb parts with the background, but i guess they can pass as ok.

Flower:

00:10:623 (3) - This 0.5x section, would have been better as 1.0x . Seeing as i always did 100 in there in my 5 tests xD. But yeah, it may be okay.
Other than that, i loved the map =o

And the normal didnt saw anything, except the fact that you should have the diff names consistently. I meant, or call Flower a Hard, or the normal to something else.

Lol, this looked more like an SB mod >_>
But i guess thats because the map itself is great, or i suck at modding :D
Vass_Bass
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Vass_Bass
Привет ^^

Normal
01:43:093 (4) - сделай посимметричнее

Flower
00:00:387 (3) - подними зад слайдера чуть вверх,лучше выглядеть будет
00:16:623 (4) - сделай на одном уровне с кругом
00:45:564 (3) - зад слайдера на одну клетку вниз,для параллельности, а этот слайдер 00:45:917 (4) - так чтоб продолжал тот
00:48:564 (3) - 1 клетку вверх
01:26:682 (3) - сделай посимметричнее
02:06:212 (3) - ^

По ритму очень хорошо получилось,хорошая мапа)
стар
IceBeam
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IceBeam
Fixed some.

Thanks.
Mok
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Mok
Here I am! :D

[General]
Am I wrong or this song has already been mapped? D:
Storyboard's cool!

[Normal]
01:07:799 (1) - Remove New Combo, I can understand it is a graphical choice, but it's not that cute with the rythm ç_ç

[Flower]
00:26:858 (1) - Remove New Combo.
00:27:740 (3,1) - Switch Combo. (Remove on 1 and New on 3).

Fun map! :P
IceBeam
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I'm following long white ticks ;)
Thanks for checking!
GabrielRKF
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Amazing.
Pokie
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General
  • - Remove Thumb.db in SB file
    - Also throw 1.png, 2.png, 8bit.png, black.png, girl.png and white.png into SB file? Remember to fix .osb if you do that too.
Normal
  • Pretty nice



    Hard
    [list:8f6d7]
00:16:270 (3) - It sounds better if removing the whistles and switch this to normal hitsound set imo XD
00:33:211 (3,4,6) - similar to ^, but not removing whistles this time
01:07:093 (3) - or 01:07:182 (4) - new combo
01:07:093 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - close the grid snap and rearrange with 0.3x distance
01:40:976 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^
02:02:858 (1) - I hope it could looks better:
SPOILER

248,336,122858,6,0,B|240:320|240:320|264:312|240:304|240:304|264:296|240:288|240:288|264:280|240:272|240:272|264:264|240:256|240:256|264:248|240:240|240:240|264:232|240:224|240:224|264:216|240:208|240:208|264:200|240:192|240:192|248:176|248:176|248:144,1,300,0|4





Awesome SB :D
Gonzvlo
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Hey,

This might work as Hard
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:3



Download: Wiklund - Billy Boogie (IceBeam).osb
Ultimate
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Ultimate
Hi there Ice!

Really like the map and SB, so don't worry about getting this ranked :P
Just bug allot of BAT's and you'll be fine ;)

Starring and kudosu starring for the awesomeness! <3
IceBeam
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IceBeam
Thanks everyone!

After asking permission,I've decided to use some elements from Ultimate's Blue Factor skin.

So,huge update,redownload,please.
ZLOdeuka-
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ZLOdeuka-
sb

Download: Wiklund - Billy Boogie (IceBeam).osb
karlaeda
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karlaeda
крутотенюшки, звездую
Garven
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Garven
And here's the recheck~

[General]
Delete the Thumbs.db from the SB folder and full-resubmit
1.5 meg spinnerbonus.wav ><
Use this instead.
Um, the comboburst is waaaaaay too big. 1024x768? :P Keep it within 500 pixels wide please.
The sliderpoint10/30 default skin looks bad against the colors of everything else. I'd suggest that you skin those as well.
Please use a spinner approach circle that isn't the same color as the spinner itself. It's hard to see when it's going to end and you need to align quickly. Also get a spinner background, otherwise you get this:
SPOILER

[Gonz]
Different combo colors? I'd keep them the same since the BG isn't changing...
AR is ridiculously different from the OD. Raise OD to at least one below AR.
Maaaaybe HP drain +1?
00:30:564 (1) - Sticking waaay into the HP bar there
01:03:564 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
02:15:564 (1) - Really uninspiring patterns at this section.
The ending felt a bit underwhelming, but it's technically fine.

Mostly just need to fix up the files and you're good.
IceBeam
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Fixed everything,except spinner-approachcircle.
I was trying to use different colour,but nothing fits exactly better.
Sorry for that,hope it won't be annoying to players.

I'll wait untill Gonz checks out your suggestions then.

Thank you,Garven!
Gonzvlo
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Gonzvlo
Hey,

Everything Fixed but colours.
I'd like to keep them, but if it's necessary, would you change them for me Icebeam ?

Oh and let me now if it turns [I] .

Download: Wiklund - Billy Boogie (IceBeam) [Gonz].osu
IceBeam
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Updated.

Well,I've kept your colours after some discussion in #modhelp.
I was told that it's mostly suggestion,then the rule,so if MATs/BATs will allow it,you may keep.
Armin
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[Normal]

00:00:035 (1,1,1) - I'd suggest you to move these hitobjects 2-3 squares down;
01:31:976 (3) - I felt this out-place when I was playing. Consider to remove it, since for me it doesn't follow the "main" rhythm or at least, you can add a hitcircle here 01:30:564 and here 01:33:387 same problem here 01:36:035 (1,2,3,1) -

Okay in some parts I found many jumps. Could you reduce them? If not, it's okay for me, it still easy for a Normal.

[Gonz]

00:00:035 (1,2,3) - I see this above the HP Drain bar which is ugly. Also this hitobject is a bit offscreen. I suggest you to fix this, maybe using a new pattern like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/41566
Same problem here 01:03:564 (2,3,4,5,6) [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/41568] and here: 01:06:387 (1)[http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/41569] and here 02:06:917 (1)
00:16:270 (1) - Please take care of the spacing here, it's ugly to see, since you are using also a new combo
01:46:270 (10) - I'd remove a repeat, because it sounds off
02:02:858 (1) - Make this 1/2 shorter?

Whistles are just...ugly

[Flower]

Very, very nice.
Last edited by Armin , edited 1 time in total.
Gonzvlo
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Gonzvlo

Armin wrote:

[Gonz]

00:00:035 (1,2,3) - I see this above the HP Drain bar which is ugly. Also this hitobject is a bit offscreen. I suggest you to fix this, maybe using a new pattern like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/41566
-Fixed.

Same problem here 01:03:564 (2,3,4,5,6) [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/41568] and here: 01:06:387 (1)[http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/41569] and here 02:06:917 (1)
-Fixed the first 2 but the last one was only the hticircle overlay so I didn't change it

00:16:270 (1) - Please take kare of the spacing here, it's ugly to see, since you are using also a new combo
Ok.

01:46:270 (10) - I'd remove a repeat, because it sounds off
-mmm Ok.

02:02:858 (1) - Make this 1/2 shorter?
Sure.

Whistles are just...ugly
- While making the changes, I tried listen to the whistles and yeah some of them sound ugly. I removed most of them.

Sorry for the delay Icebeam :( I had some problems with my pc.

Download: Wiklund - Billy Boogie (IceBeam) [Gonz].osu
IceBeam
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IceBeam
Updated.

@ Armin

* Reduced distance in the 1st pattern.
* Removed both (3)-rd notes you mentioned.
Also,yeah,I wasn't using Distance Snap mapping this,so generally objects are off-snapping.
But I'm under-average Standart player,however I can easily pass it,and all those people who tested/modded it didn't find it hard to play and those few grids out of snapping don't really cause any major problems during gameplay.
And as you said,it's Normal,so I hope it can still work as the easiest difficulty.

Thank you,as always.
Armin
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Armin

IceBeam wrote:

But I'm under-average Standart player,however I can easily pass it,and all those people who tested/modded it didn't find it hard to play and those few grids out of snapping don't really cause any major problems during gameplay.
And as you said,it's Normal,so I hope it can still work as the easiest difficulty.
Yes, of course, in my last post I underlined that just to make a reminder for the next mat/bat.


Anyway, here you are your bubble.
James2250
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Delete hitcircle select from the folder (it is only used for the editor)
Also delete default , . % x They don't do anything. Only the score ones show up in game
Isn't the 'star' in the folder just the default one? (It shows up outside the map) You shouldn't need it ---Same for star2.

Maps all look nice
Let me know if you change anything
IceBeam
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True,thanks,James2250.

Updated~
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