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Caramelos de Cianuro - Veronica

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Topic Starter
Luvdic
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on miércoles, 09 de febrero de 2011 at 12:06:47 p.m.

Artist: Caramelos de Cianuro
Title: Veronica
Tags: RandomJibberish
BPM: 175,04
Filesize: 5548kb
Play Time: 03:24
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,69 stars, 332 notes)
  2. Normal (3,77 stars, 257 notes)
  3. RJ's Easy (1,55 stars, 139 notes)
Download: Caramelos de Cianuro - Veronica
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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I love you Veronica Screw!! <3!!
Forever and Ever!

I suck with hitsounds... :l
And special thanks for RandomJibberish for the easy difficulty!
Revengexsoyah
Exelent....!!
Charles445
General
SPOILER
Can't help you with this timing, sorry :( . Seek help.
This map needs a difficulty under 3 stars (Make an Easy!)
A lot of the hits are unsnapped to grid (leave it if intentional)

Normal
SPOILER
00:58:704 New Combo
01:49:664 (5) Not aligned on timeline
02:29:198 New Combo

Hard
SPOILER
00:58:704 to 01:03:675
   This part feels weak gameplay wise. Maybe change the pattern after one repeat?
01:16:872 Shorten this a repeat
02:41:539 Move this to 02:41:367
02:42:053 Move this to 02:41:881
03:15:474 New Combo
03:16:845 Remove New Combo
Not much to say.
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Charles445 wrote:

General
SPOILER
Can't help you with this timing, sorry :( . Seek help. No problemn
This map needs a difficulty under 3 stars (Make an Easy!) Its easy enough for me, although ill wait for more opinions based on gameplay and not on the star rating
A lot of the hits are unsnapped to grid (leave it if intentional) Eh.. since when i have to map with grid snap?

Normal
SPOILER
00:58:704 New Combo Done...
01:49:664 (5) Not aligned on timeline It is
02:29:198 New Combo Done

Hard
SPOILER
00:58:704 to 01:03:675
   This part feels weak gameplay wise. Maybe change the pattern after one repeat? Nah.
01:16:872 Shorten this a repeat Nah
02:41:539 Move this to 02:41:367 Added a circle instead.
02:42:053 Move this to 02:41:881
03:15:474 New Combo
03:16:845 Remove New Combo Done both new combos
Not much to say.
Gonzvlo
General
  1. You need a diff. with a Star level below 3. Don't forget about that.
  2. The mp3 must have a bir rate between 192 & 128 kbps. I'm not sure if this map was submitted b4 the rules was updated so u should check that.
  3. Add "Spanish" to tags.
  4. Countdown Speed: Half Speed, Sounds better imo , consider changing it.
  5. If you take my suggestion about the time when the map ends you won't need the last offset.
  6. About the BMP probably 175.00 , Will work. (I'm not an expert on timing sorry)
Shitty mod, check the 2nd one.

Recuerda que los combos deben ser consistentes de alguna manera, además de eso el mapa esta Genial (: GJ Erufen.
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Gonzvlo wrote:

General
  1. You need a diff. with a Star level below 3. Don't forget about that. The rule was made to make sure that the newbies can play the mapset, and im sure that normal is easy enough, And well just asked someone ranked 89k and noticed that i should fix the spinners and thats about it.
  2. The mp3 must have a bir rate between 192 & 128 kbps. I'm not sure if this map was submitted b4 the rules was updated so u should check that. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AHHHHHHH
  3. Add "Spanish" to tags. Okay
  4. Countdown Speed: Half Speed, Sounds better imo , consider changing it. Okay
  5. If you take my suggestion about the time when the map ends you won't need the last offset. But i so want to end my map where it is now >_>
  6. About the BMP probably 175.00 , Will work. (I'm not an expert on timing sorry)


Normal
  1. 00:32:310 (3) - Place a New Combo to keep consistency. Done
  2. 00:34:024 (4) - Fix Spacing, The circle is too close to the end of the last slider. I'm sure it is okay... :x
  3. 00:41:908 (3) - New Combo.
  4. 00:43:622 (4) - Fix Spacing.
  5. 00:44:650 - On this part you use New Combo every 4 beats, You should do the same for this part 00:55:962 :I didnt knew i used new combo every four beats >_>
  6. 00:57:333 (3) - New Combo
  7. 00:58:704 (5) - ^
  8. 01:00:075 (7) - ^
  9. 01:17:557 (5,1) - Swap New Combo.
  10. 01:47:722 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try something like this:
    Hmm... sure
  11. 02:27:827 (3) - New Combo (Read 00:44:650)
  12. 02:29:198 (5) - ^
  13. 02:30:569 (7) - ^ Done
  14. 02:48:051 (5,1) - Swap New Combo.
  15. 03:18:216 (1,2,3,4,5) -
    Done
  16. I would suggest to end the map here: 03:23:358.

Hard
  1. 00:25:455 (1) - Remove New Combo.
  2. 00:26:826 (2) - New Combo.
  3. 00:28:197 (1) - Remove New Combo.
  4. 00:29:911 (2) - New Combo.
  5. 00:30:596 (1) - Remove New Combo.
  6. 00:34:024 (1) - ^
  7. 00:41:565 (1) - ^
    All done
  8. 00:49:792 (5) - New Combo.
  9. 00:51:849 (1) - Remove New Combo.
  10. 01:00:076 (1) - ^
  11. 01:02:818 (1) - ^ Done
  12. 01:27:841 (1) - This sound better on 1/4, End it here: 01:28:184 and place a Whistle here: 01:28:012.
    And i have a different opinion :x
  13. 01:30:583 (1) - Remove New Combo.
  14. 01:47:722 (1) - ^
  15. 01:49:265 (1) - New ComboDone all
  16. 01:49:693 (2) - You should Unstack it and place it here: 01:49:779 imo. This is a spot that i had to think a lot, cause honestly, at 01:49:779 it sounds too late. And about the stacking thing or not,i would have unstacked it anyways if i had placed it 1/4 later
  17. 02:26:113 (7,1) - Swap New Combo and Unstack (7) Nooo i want it stacked :X
  18. 02:30:570 (1) - Remove New Combo.
  19. 02:33:312 (1) - ^ Done
  20. 02:58:335 (1) - Place it on 1/4, end it here: 02:58:678, and a Whistle here: 02:58:506
  21. 03:15:474 (8) - New Combo. Done
  22. I would suggest to end the map here: 03:23:358.
Recuerda que los combos deben ser consistentes de alguna manera, además de eso el mapa esta Genial (: GJ Erufen.
Siempre pongo los combos nuevos aleatoriamente >_> Y sep, por eso nunca hare maps perfectos de una. Y gracias! :D
Krisom
Me encanta la forma en la que ambos se hablan en ingles siendo que los dos saben que hablan español~~~~
:trollface:
Uhhh, sep, debiera agregar esto a mi queue, pero por mientras, kudosu para ti~
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Respondo en el idioma que me hablen xD (si puedo... Lol)

Y gracias :D
Gonzvlo

Krisom wrote:

Me encanta la forma en la que ambos se hablan en ingles siendo que los dos saben que hablan español~~~~
:trollface:
Uhhh, sep, debiera agregar esto a mi queue, pero por mientras, kudosu para ti~
Es la costumbre :(

<3 Erufen~

Kudosu star.
IceBeam
[Normal]
01:17:900 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:21:842 - Finish doesn't fit well,remove it or move to 01:22:356 (7).
02:52:336 - ^ to 02:52:850 (8) then.
02:59:020 (1) - Finish?

Nice,but it's above 3 Star Rating,it's acceptable only if it's really easy to pass.
But..I have to say that your Normal is not enough to be the easiest difficulty in mapset.
Prolly you'll need another,Easy difficulty.

[Hard]
01:39:495 (1) - Fix distance,it's too far.
Oh well,and the whole spacing~
I have no idea why it's changed so suddenly.It'd have sense if you did it during chorus,but this one makes no sense to me :|

That's it,sorry for poor modding,star~
Topic Starter
Luvdic

IceBeam wrote:

[Normal]
01:17:900 (1) - Remove new combo. Ops, forgot
01:21:842 - Finish doesn't fit well,remove it or move to 01:22:356 (7). Hmm... Okay.
02:52:336 - ^ to 02:52:850 (8) then.
02:59:020 (1) - Finish? Okay

Nice,but it's above 3 Star Rating,it's acceptable only if it's really easy to pass.
But..I have to say that your Normal is not enough to be the easiest difficulty in mapset.
Prolly you'll need another,Easy difficulty.
Okay, will wait for more opinions then. And for the record, i do think its easy enough and i had it tested already with 3 people ranking 80k - 120k and i saw that they could pass it decently, so it is enough for me. But i will just wait for more opinions.


[Hard]
01:39:495 (1) - Fix distance,it's too far. This is following the 1.6x distance snap, but i know what you mean, will wait for more opinions as well.
Oh well,and the whole spacing~ What whole spacing? >_>
I have no idea why it's changed so suddenly.It'd have sense if you did it during chorus,but this one makes no sense to me :|

Actually, starting from 00:44:650 to 01:53:206 AND 02:15:144 to 03:23:701 is pretty much exactly the same, including the lyrics, as well as the fact that they are actually choruses(as well as this other interval 03:23:747 to end that i didnt mapped)
And the change is not so sudden :(
I tried to make it not so sudden! D:
I guess i failed


That's it,sorry for poor modding,star~
Doomsday
For the timing, Your BPM sounds pretty much right. the offsets a bit off though. It could use -10 to it (I got 765).

Also the offset shifts at 01:53:225. It goes off slightly, so you need another red section there to fix it:

Add a 2nd red secton:
BPM: 175.039, Offset: 113,225

That fixes the offset for the second half. The only bits that feels a tiny bit off now are 02:42 - 02:45, and right at the end, but the timing still fixes itself, so I guess it's just the band not playing in time. That timing is probably the best you will get.
James2250
-New 192kbps rule was made on Oct 25th (day your map was submitted) Seeing as your mp3 filesize is pretty big I would suggest you change it to 192kbps
-You don't need Spanish in tags anymore as it has been added to the list of languages BAT's can choose when ranking
-Slightly long break but I guess it can pass

Easy:
0.5 slider tick rate might sound nicer, try it out (maybe its just me?)
OD -1 for easiest difficulty?
03:23:376 (1,2,1,2) - isn't recommend to use kiai fountains like this --same for all difficulties

Normal:
0.5 slider tick rate might sound nicer, try it out
Map looks good

Hard:
Nice

*star*
Topic Starter
Luvdic

James2250 wrote:

-New 192kbps rule was made on Oct 25th (day your map was submitted) Seeing as your mp3 filesize is pretty big I would suggest you change it to 192kbps Sighs i already knew that, its just that i was always postponing it cause i dont know how to do that. I guess its time now :(
-You don't need Spanish in tags anymore as it has been added to the list of languages BAT's can choose when ranking Right. Lol
-Slightly long break but I guess it can pass

Easy:
0.5 slider tick rate might sound nicer, try it out (maybe its just me?) I think it too.
OD -1 for easiest difficulty?
03:23:376 (1,2,1,2) - isn't recommend to use kiai fountains like this --same for all difficulties I hope it was alright, I placed them intentionally so the fountain wouldnt cover them. Anyways, exactly why it is not recommended?

Normal:
0.5 slider tick rate might sound nicer, try it out
Map looks good

Hard:
Nice

*star*
eldnl
Estrella por mientras, lo acabo de jugar y se ve bastante bien, mañana me haré un tiempo y te modeare, bye :D
Jesss
Hi! Time for my modding

[General]
SPOILER
- Please Cut mp3. When mapset finishes...almost 1 minute of the song is still remaining...
- Timing is still weird...i can't help you with multi-timing.
- Hitsounds Volume are too loud...Please reduce by -3

[Easy]
SPOILER
- 00:40:204 (1) - Align with 00:38:490 (2) - something like this
- 00:41:918 (3) - make this slider completely straight or rotate it 18 degrees clockwise, because i dislike current position.
- 01:01:457 (1,2,3,4) - Looks Better if you fix them like this.
- 01:18:424 (2) - IMO you should fix it parallel to previous slider.
- 02:48:946 (2) - ^

[Normal]
SPOILER
- 00:55:972 (1) - Remove New Combo
- 01:28:879 (2,3,4) - This pattern is weird...i reccommend changing it
- 02:26:494 (1) - Remove New Combo
- 02:59:401 (2,3,4) - the weird Pattern Again!! well...this time i'll tolerate it ;)
- 03:03:857 (1,2,3,4,5) - Would look better if you fix this pattern like this
- 03:24:081 (1) - Why new combo? the word "despiértame" has 4 syllabes, so...the combo pattern would be 4 circles, not 2 and 2.

[Hard]
SPOILER
- 00:29:921 (1) - Remove New Combo. it's useless
- 00:39:176 (4) - With this, you suddenly broke the rhythm pattern ._. make it slider, please.
- 00:43:632 (1) - Remove New Combo...
- 00:49:973 (2) - Cut 1/4 slider
- 01:46:361 (1) - Move this slider 3 grids Left (use lvl3 grid)
- 01:49:275 (1) - Remove New Combo...
- 02:23:752 (7) - New Combo...
- 02:24:438 (1) - if you followed previous instruction...Remove New Combo...otherwise...just ignore this.
- 02:35:064 (1) - Remove New Combo
- 02:35:407 (1) - ^
- 02:36:092 (1) - ^
- 02:37:120 (4) - New Combo
- 02:48:089 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - reorganize them and please respect the initial Spacing, if you will change the spacing...you generally do it when you start a new Combo.
- 03:03:515 (5) - Remove New Combo.
- 03:04:543 (7) - New Combo.
- 03:22:882 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Weird Stream (cuz the bad timing), and you should start it when piano makes its arpreggio.

Star~~ and Good Luck with this project!!
wmfchris
[hard]
1:48:246 (5) down 1 grid
3:14:998 (5) right a bit
3:18:254 (1,2,3,4) should be even spacing
overall OK, but that clap is really loudy +_+

[Normal]
1:23:395 (2~7,1~6) a bit weird to me .__.

that's all I've noticed, star~



....and yes, you've to cut your mp3 shorter
Topic Starter
Luvdic

j35u5891221 wrote:

Hi! Time for my modding

[General]
SPOILER
- Please Cut mp3. When mapset finishes...almost 1 minute of the song is still remaining...
- Timing is still weird...i can't help you with multi-timing.
- Hitsounds Volume are too loud...Please reduce by -3 Okay

[Easy]
SPOILER
- 00:40:204 (1) - Align with 00:38:490 (2) - something like this No.
- 00:41:918 (3) - make this slider completely straight or rotate it 18 degrees clockwise, because i dislike current position. And i dislike seeing everything symmetrical/parallel to osu!'s X and Y axis
- 01:01:457 (1,2,3,4) - Looks Better if you fix them like this. Can't see much difference.
- 01:18:424 (2) - IMO you should fix it parallel to previous slider.
- 02:48:946 (2) - ^ >_>

[Normal]
SPOILER
- 00:55:972 (1) - Remove New Combo Okay
- 01:28:879 (2,3,4) - This pattern is weird...i reccommend changing it Okay
- 02:26:494 (1) - Remove New Combo Okay
- 02:59:401 (2,3,4) - the weird Pattern Again!! well...this time i'll tolerate it ;)
- 03:03:857 (1,2,3,4,5) - Would look better if you fix this pattern like this Can't see why i should :x
- 03:24:081 (1) - Why new combo? the word "despiértame" has 4 syllabes, so...the combo pattern would be 4 circles, not 2 and 2. Okay xD

[Hard]
SPOILER
- 00:29:921 (1) - Remove New Combo. it's useless Okay
- 00:39:176 (4) - With this, you suddenly broke the rhythm pattern ._. make it slider, please. I really liked it, will wait for more opinions. And i didnt break the rhythm
- 00:43:632 (1) - Remove New Combo...
- 00:49:973 (2) - Cut 1/4 slider I'd rather not.
- 01:46:361 (1) - Move this slider 3 grids Left (use lvl3 grid) Did something a bit different :T
- 01:49:275 (1) - Remove New Combo... Ahahaah this was accidental
- 02:23:752 (7) - New Combo...
- 02:24:438 (1) - if you followed previous instruction...Remove New Combo...otherwise...just ignore this. Okay
- 02:35:064 (1) - Remove New Combo
- 02:35:407 (1) - ^
- 02:36:092 (1) - ^
- 02:37:120 (4) - New Combo All okay
- 02:48:089 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - reorganize them and please respect the initial Spacing, if you will change the spacing...you generally do it when you start a new Combo. Ermm what? They are using 1.0x? And there's no jumps in these parts...
- 03:03:515 (5) - Remove New Combo.
- 03:04:543 (7) - New Combo. Okay
- 03:22:882 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Weird Stream (cuz the bad timing), and you should start it when piano makes its arpreggio. But they were being snapped to the drums, thats why i changed the hitsounds to normal set

Star~~ and Good Luck with this project!!

wmfchris wrote:

[hard]
1:48:246 (5) down 1 grid Ermm... okay?
3:14:998 (5) right a bit Can't really see why...
3:18:254 (1,2,3,4) should be even spacing Or they should not :x
overall OK, but that clap is really loudy +_+

[Normal]
1:23:395 (2~7,1~6) a bit weird to me .__. More information about why it is weird would be more helpful :T

that's all I've noticed, star~



....and yes, you've to cut your mp3 shorter
SapphireGhost
For the Normal...
00:55:665 (3) New combo maybe, but I'm not sure I have anything really else to say. It seems to be in pretty good shape right now! Here's a star!
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Woah, thanks for pointing that out...
Weird that a note after spinner doesn't auto new combo the object... :l
Lissette
miau~

Hard
no soy muy fan de mapear siguiendo la voz, en mi opinión esto aveces hace que el mapa sea un poco difícil de seguir, pero en fin te sugiero que sigas el ritmo de la música en las partes que se hace como una pausa, por ejemplo:
00:24:301 (3) - muevelo medio beat hacia atrás y agrega una nota aquí 00:24:472
00:27:729 (3) - muevelo medio beat hacia adelante o agrega una nota aquí 00:27:900
00:29:614 - agrega nota aquí
bueno mi idea es que sigas un poco mas la batería o algún instrumento no se :p, como hiciste en la parte del kiai ^^

Normal
Esta me gustó mas que el Hard ^^
00:34:927 (2) - este slider se siente fuera de ritmo

Easy
00:51:895 - agrega una nota
01:49:996 (1,1) - únelos, recuerda que es easy diff ^^
un easy siguiendo la voz resulta algo difícil de seguir, pero bueno no esta mal

mmmm.... iba a decir otra cosa pero doy tantas vueltas que ya se me olvidó T^T
<--- memoria de pez

Star~
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Lissette wrote:

miau~

Hard
no soy muy fan de mapear siguiendo la voz, en mi opinión esto aveces hace que el mapa sea un poco difícil de seguir, pero en fin te sugiero que sigas el ritmo de la música en las partes que se hace como una pausa, por ejemplo:
00:24:301 (3) - muevelo medio beat hacia atrás y agrega una nota aquí 00:24:472
00:27:729 (3) - muevelo medio beat hacia adelante o agrega una nota aquí 00:27:900
00:29:614 - agrega nota aquí
bueno mi idea es que sigas un poco mas la batería o algún instrumento no se :p, como hiciste en la parte del kiai ^^
Los dejaré así por ahora :T

Normal
Esta me gustó mas que el Hard ^^
00:34:927 (2) - este slider se siente fuera de ritmo
Los dejaré así por ahora :T

Easy
00:51:895 - agrega una nota
01:49:996 (1,1) - únelos, recuerda que es easy diff ^^
un easy siguiendo la voz resulta algo difícil de seguir, pero bueno no esta mal
Hecho!

mmmm.... iba a decir otra cosa pero doy tantas vueltas que ya se me olvidó T^T
<--- memoria de pez

Star~
yongtw123
Sorry for my delay.

And I have to apologize again because I find myself difficult to mod this song.

It may be due to that I'm unfamiliar with song of genre like this, and I can't grasp the rhythm well.
I believe that in order to mod a song/map well, one has to at least grasp the song's rhythm and feel.

So I'll just do a generic mod. Feel free to not give kudosu.

[Easy]
I think it's too difficult, with a lot of red-tick notes/sliders.
I'd suggest following the beat, not the vocal.

[Normal]
Quite a few section is similar to [Hard]...

[Hard]
03:22:918 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the level of difficulty sudden sky-rocketed...


Basically good patterns.
Once again sorry for poor mod :(
Topic Starter
Luvdic

yongtw123 wrote:

Sorry for my delay.

And I have to apologize again because I find myself difficult to mod this song.

It may be due to that I'm unfamiliar with song of genre like this, and I can't grasp the rhythm well.
I believe that in order to mod a song/map well, one has to at least grasp the song's rhythm and feel.
Don't worry, it's totally understandable. If i were you, i wouldn't have modded this xD

So I'll just do a generic mod. Feel free to not give kudosu.

[Easy]
I think it's too difficult, with a lot of red-tick notes/sliders.
I'd suggest following the beat, not the vocal.

[Normal]
Quite a few section is similar to [Hard]... I believe that in the same mapset... some pattens should be kept the same... but made harder... Lol if you know what i mean.

[Hard]
03:22:918 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the level of difficulty sudden sky-rocketed... I guess this is a good way to end a map.


Basically good patterns.
Once again sorry for poor mod :(
Krisom
General-
·Ya no es necesario que tengas el "Spanish" en tags, remuevelo >w<
·Jamás debi revisar tu songfolder ;_;
·Kiai times debieran empezar en 01:06:634 - , 01:28:572 - , 02:37:156 - y 02:59:094 - , por otro lado, debieran terminar en 01:16:232 - , 01:38:170 - , 02:46:754 - , 03:08:692 . Estos son los lugares de énfasis en la canción y, aunque la letra siga otro patrón (donde empiezan/terminan los versos), los intrumentos marcan el inicio y el final del coro en los lugares que mencioné.
·Para la proxima usa los customclaps que suelo usar, los hitsouns que usaste para esta canción no suenan muy bien ;_;
·En lo personal, quitaría el leterboxing de los breaks para que no le corten la cara a los tipos y nos e corte el nombre de la banda ._.
·No estoy seguro sobre las fuentes que pusiste al final, pero meh <.<

Hard-
01:32:857 (4,1) - Algo inesperado imo, pero da igual si lo cambias o no.
02:36:128 (1,2,3) - Muevelo un grid a la derecha. El stack hace que (1) tenga un feísimo overlap con el (7) anterior
03:22:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,1,2) - Oh you <.<

Easy-
Esta dificultad es todo lo que no hay que hacer en dificultades novatas >w<
00:36:470 (3,4) - Normalmente los patrones (1/1) (-) (1/2) (-) (1/1) como estos no son un gran problema en las dificultades fáciles, pero eso es por que hay spacing para distinguirlos. Acá tienes un hermoso y confuso stack para los novatos (le pedí a un amigo newbie que probara el mapa y en estos es donde más falló >w<). Vas a tener que hacer algo al respecto. No se si vayas a usar sliders o simplemente eliminar el stack, pero cambia esto
00:50:524 (1,2,3,4) - No es obligatorio que SIEMPRE sigas la letra, en especial en lugares como estos. w/e, puede pasar, pero estos 1/2 son algo borderline :/. estos Y todos los similares en la diff.
01:14:176 (4,5) - Stack + (1/1)(1/2) GO!
01:30:629 (5,6) - ^
01:49:311 (3,4) - OMG STACK + (1/2)(1/4) GOGOGO!
Te tendré que meter a clases con Astom, Liz y Liss de como no mappear según la letra ._."

Normal-
Nada que sea vomitivo acá :]

Easy es el mayor problema. Puedes: a) remover todas esas partes difíciles y cambiarlas por otras o b) conseguirte una diff más fácil y dejar "Easy" tal cual.

Star de m parte, pero no MAT star hasta que vea Easy realmente fácil ;_;

(<3)
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Krisom wrote:

General-
·Ya no es necesario que tengas el "Spanish" en tags, remuevelo >w< Nunca fue necesario :x
·Jamás debi revisar tu songfolder ;_; Oh you!
·Kiai times debieran empezar en 01:06:634 - , 01:28:572 - , 02:37:156 - y 02:59:094 - , por otro lado, debieran terminar en 01:16:232 - , 01:38:170 - , 02:46:754 - , 03:08:692 . Estos son los lugares de énfasis en la canción y, aunque la letra siga otro patrón (donde empiezan/terminan los versos), los intrumentos marcan el inicio y el final del coro en los lugares que mencioné.
·Para la proxima usa los customclaps que suelo usar, los hitsouns que usaste para esta canción no suenan muy bien ;_; Yo que queria hacer un map sin explotar mi cabeza... Ya lo agregare... cuando sepa cuales son esos hitsounds. :l
·En lo personal, quitaría el leterboxing de los breaks para que no le corten la cara a los tipos y nos e corte el nombre de la banda ._. Okay
·No estoy seguro sobre las fuentes que pusiste al final, pero meh <.< Me asegure de que el fountain no los tapara... Espero que eso sirva de algo :x

Hard-
01:32:857 (4,1) - Algo inesperado imo, pero da igual si lo cambias o no.
02:36:128 (1,2,3) - Muevelo un grid a la derecha. El stack hace que (1) tenga un feísimo overlap con el (7) anterior Hecho.
03:22:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,1,2) - Oh you <.< Oh si yo

Easy-
Esta dificultad es todo lo que no hay que hacer en dificultades novatas >w<
00:36:470 (3,4) - Normalmente los patrones (1/1) (-) (1/2) (-) (1/1) como estos no son un gran problema en las dificultades fáciles, pero eso es por que hay spacing para distinguirlos. Acá tienes un hermoso y confuso stack para los novatos (le pedí a un amigo newbie que probara el mapa y en estos es donde más falló >w<). Vas a tener que hacer algo al respecto. No se si vayas a usar sliders o simplemente eliminar el stack, pero cambia esto Ya sabia que esa parte era dificil... Lol pero me gustaba como quedaba xD


00:50:524 (1,2,3,4) - No es obligatorio que SIEMPRE sigas la letra, en especial en lugares como estos. w/e, puede pasar, pero estos 1/2 son algo borderline :/. estos Y todos los similares en la diff.
01:14:176 (4,5) - Stack + (1/1)(1/2) GO!
01:30:629 (5,6) - ^
01:49:311 (3,4) - OMG STACK + (1/2)(1/4) GOGOGO!
Te tendré que meter a clases con Astom, Liz y Liss de como no mappear según la letra ._." O mejor aun... quizas les pida una guest diff si despues de los cambios quedan aun como vomito. Lol

Normal-
Nada que sea vomitivo acá :]

Easy es el mayor problema. Puedes: a) remover todas esas partes difíciles y cambiarlas por otras o b) conseguirte una diff más fácil y dejar "Easy" tal cual. Ya se que mi easy era el de mayor problema... pero como nadie decia que estaba horrible.. lo deje asi :(

Star de m parte, pero no MAT star hasta que vea Easy realmente fácil ;_;

(<3)
Y EWW.... MODEASTE ESTE MAP. </3!
Lizbeth
Perdón por la espera, he estado bastante ocupada con muchos mod requets @.@

No veo problemas con el mapa, lo único que creo que debo puntualizar, es que sería mejor si en el Easy elimines las notas que están a 1/2 beat de distancia.

Por ejemplo: 00:58:750 (1,2) - 01:00:122 (3,4)

Es todo
<3
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Me provoca hacer nuke a mi easy... hohoho
RandomJibberish
Hey look a lazy RJ easy on the horizon

this song was haaaaaaaaaard to map an easy for, so much offbeat :/

Download: Caramelos de Cianuro - Veronica (ErufenRito) [RJ's Easy].osu
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Im falling in love for you now! Thanks for the diff!

Well you may have done it in lazy mode, but at least is way much better than my easy. Now time to nuke my easy!
Gonzvlo
General
  1. Creo que hay un problema con el color gris, por lo que es usado en multiplayer cuando haces fail, mejor cambialo por un todo amarillo/verde.
  2. Oh, Oh, Oh, Por qué no mencioné las fountains antes ?, Se ven tan mal... borralas? ó al menos quedate con solo 1.
  3. El archivo del BG se ve así , talvez quieras revisarlo para evitar futuros problemas. (sí, hice re-download).
RJ's Easy
  1. I'd totally remove those fountains at the end.
  2. Sometimes I feel that the volume is too low, I suggest increase it a bit on the lower sections.
  3. Rhythm is a bit weird, Well I guess that's ok for these kind of songs.
Normal
  1. El comienzo del mapa estaba tan bien pero despues de este punto: 00:44:696 - Usaste dobles para toda la dificultad eso lo hizo algo aburrido, Podías haber seguido las vocales en algunas partes.
  2. 01:30:800 (6) - Escuchas el "Finish" spam? Se escucha tan bien para esa parte, porque no la usaste en todas las partes similares? (sí hay algunas en la que solo usaste whistles ó nada)
  3. Es algo raro que uses "0.5" de tickrate acá y en Hard "2" , usa "2" en ambos? además Easy también usa "2" , no veo porque no usarlo en Normal.
Hard
  1. 01:14:347 (3,4,5) - Creo que deberías posicionar (5) donde termina (3) para que el espacio sea consistente.
  2. 01:27:887 (1) - Uhmm ya lo dije antes, el ritmo de este slider está en 1/4, Reduce la longitud del slider 1/4 y agrega 3 repeats, No veo porque no lo hiciste antes. (Oh y lo puedes hacer sonar mejor agregando whistles en las líneas rojas)
  3. 01:38:856 (2) - Estás siguiendo el ritmo de la guitarra, un repeat está de más, borralo. Sinó es algo confuso con la siguiente nota por el spacing, no sabes si seguir la vocales ó la ritmo principal. (Le puedes agregar un whistle a la línea roja para que suene mejor.)
  4. 01:42:284 (1,2) - Este jump está algo fuera de lugar, principalmente porque en esta parte no esperas que exista un jump, reducelo al menos un poco. (Lo mismo para los 2 siguientes objetos)
  5. 01:49:996 (1,1) - Usaste los mismo sliders en Normal, creo que podrías hacerlo más acorde para un hard y además para diferenciarlo de Normal, de esta forma siguiendo el ritmo de la bateria.
  6. El final está genial, excepto por eso que mencioné en General :x.
/me pokes You
RandomJibberish
I agree on removing the kiai fountains, you can do that for me :P
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Gonzvlo wrote:

General
  1. Creo que hay un problema con el color gris, por lo que es usado en multiplayer cuando haces fail, mejor cambialo por un todo amarillo/verde. Existe una opcion de multiplayer que puede forzar un mismo combo color para tus partes. Lo hice considerando esa nueva opcion relativamente reciente.
  2. Oh, Oh, Oh, Por qué no mencioné las fountains antes ?, Se ven tan mal... borralas? ó al menos quedate con solo 1. Porque eres gay y estos fountains rock >=o!
  3. El archivo del BG se ve así , talvez quieras revisarlo para evitar futuros problemas. (sí, hice re-download).
AHAHAH LO SE. Pero como en el juego se ve normal, lo ignore xD

Normal
  1. El comienzo del mapa estaba tan bien pero despues de este punto: 00:44:696 - Usaste dobles para toda la dificultad eso lo hizo algo aburrido, Podías haber seguido las vocales en algunas partes. Yo si segui vocales en algunas partes >_>. Ex: 01:01:493 (1,2,1,2) - Otra cosa es que los vocales usen dobles tambien. Lol
  2. 01:30:800 (6) - Escuchas el "Finish" spam? Se escucha tan bien para esa parte, porque no la usaste en todas las partes similares? (sí hay algunas en la que solo usaste whistles ó nada) Porque no queria tener tanto finish spams... y apesto en hitsounds. Oh bueno
  3. Es algo raro que uses "0.5" de tickrate acá y en Hard "2" , usa "2" en ambos? además Easy también usa "2" , no veo porque no usarlo en Normal. Hmm fue por un mod anterior de no se quien que no me acuerdo. Lol
Hard
  1. 01:14:347 (3,4,5) - Creo que deberías posicionar (5) donde termina (3) para que el espacio sea consistente. Check (4) Y verás que tienen spacing consistentes de 1,50
  2. 01:27:887 (1) - Uhmm ya lo dije antes, el ritmo de este slider está en 1/4, Reduce la longitud del slider 1/4 y agrega 3 repeats, No veo porque no lo hiciste antes. (Oh y lo puedes hacer sonar mejor agregando whistles en las líneas rojas) Déjalos así andaaaa D:
  3. 01:38:856 (2) - Estás siguiendo el ritmo de la guitarra, un repeat está de más, borralo. Sinó es algo confuso con la siguiente nota por el spacing, no sabes si seguir la vocales ó la ritmo principal. (Le puedes agregar un whistle a la línea roja para que suene mejor.) Déjalos en paz D:!!!
  4. 01:42:284 (1,2) - Este jump está algo fuera de lugar, principalmente porque en esta parte no esperas que exista un jump, reducelo al menos un poco. (Lo mismo para los 2 siguientes objetos) No son jumps? Están usando spacing de 1,60
  5. 01:49:996 (1,1) - Usaste los mismo sliders en Normal, creo que podrías hacerlo más acorde para un hard y además para diferenciarlo de Normal, de esta forma siguiendo el ritmo de la bateria. Lo había dejado igual por el cambio de offset, pero ya que insistes. hohoh
  6. El final está genial, excepto por eso que mencioné en General :x.
/me pokes You
/you is gay
Hushu_old
General:
Please don't abuse/rape/harass Kiai Time. I personaly feel it should accrue only once in a song with a lenght of 40s max.

Easy:
Too much sliders, too long sliders.

Normal:
0:55:665 - Confusing spacing.
1:52:053 - This is only normal, could this spinner or the one before be replaced with notes?
2:16:418, 2:17:789, 2:19:160 - I can't change my ways of playing the song halfway, in my opinion, you should do the same what before or do something new not so confusing... Maybe after break do everything Distant Snapped or something..?
2:26:187 - Confusing spacing.

Hard:
0:51:895 - Confusing spacing till the spinner.
1:09:034 - Confusing Spacing
2:37:156 - ^

Sorry if you did not find this post helpful~ :?
HakuNoKaemi
[General]
Why using a 175,039 bpm? it's not best to approximate it to 175,00 ?

[Normal]
00:55:665 (1,2,3) - stack like this can be confusing: unstack the 1
01:14:176 (5) - add 1 repeat
02:15:733 (3) - this ended on the blue tick, make it end on the white tick
02:17:104 (2) - ^
02:18:475 (2) - ^
02:21:217 (2) - make it end on the red tick
02:22:588 (2) - ^
02:32:186 (2) - ^
02:33:557 (2) - ^


no other thing to mod
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Hushu wrote:

Normal:
0:55:665 - Confusing spacing. Will consider it in the future
1:52:053 - This is only normal, could this spinner or the one before be replaced with notes? They are perfectly fine for a normal.
2:16:418, 2:17:789, 2:19:160 - I can't change my ways of playing the song halfway, in my opinion, you should do the same what before or do something new not so confusing... Maybe after break do everything Distant Snapped or something..? They are fine as they are? And i'm not quite undertanding what youre trying to say...
2:26:187 - Confusing spacing.

Hard:
0:51:895 - Confusing spacing till the spinner. They are fine for me >_>
1:09:034 - Confusing Spacing
2:37:156 - ^ You obviously have something against the stacked notes D:

Sorry if you did not find this post helpful~ :?

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[General]
Why using a 175,039 bpm? it's not best to approximate it to 175,00 ? Differences of 0,02 + decimals is notable if the song is over 2 min long

[Normal]
00:55:665 (1,2,3) - stack like this can be confusing: unstack the 1 Hmm fine ill change.
01:14:176 (5) - add 1 repeat
02:15:733 (3) - this ended on the blue tick, make it end on the white tick
02:17:104 (2) - ^
02:18:475 (2) - ^
02:21:217 (2) - make it end on the red tick
02:22:588 (2) - ^
02:32:186 (2) - ^
02:33:557 (2) - ^

Oh my... thanks for pointings this out. Don't know what happened there >_>

no other thing to mod
Lizbeth
Hard & Normal
Spinners doesn't have the New Combo

RJ's Easy
01:50:167 - re-insert breaktime

Fix this and I'll bubble~
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Added new combo.

And about the reinsert break, im very sure that it was intentional, cause it adds a very nice effect during gameplay, and during this period, health is not drained, so there's no issue about that. But lets just wait RJ response
RandomJibberish
Yeah that's intentional. Unintentional short breaks are impossible to make now :/
Lizbeth
Alright.
Add RandomJibberish to tags btw D:

/runs
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Lizbeth wrote:

Alright.
Add RandomJibberish to tags btw D:

/runs
Omg!!!

D:!!!

/me hides
Lizbeth
bubbled~
Doomsday
Well, the drums like to go offbeat at times, but there isn't much you can do about those :(. It's only little bits anyway, It plays out alright.

A little touch and go with the timing, but ranked!
Revengexsoyah
congratzZZZZ
Kamure
You know what I think about this map?

Absolutely NOTHING

Congrats though....
Charles445
dat circle size

EDIT:
Those are quite mixed ratings
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