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Kawada Mami - No buts! (TV Size)

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jericho2442
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 01 November 2010 at 00:07:45

Artist: Kawada Mami
Title: No buts! (TV Size)
Source: To Aru Majutsu no Index II
BPM: 183
Filesize: 14701kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.91 stars, 103 notes)
  2. Hard (4.61 stars, 190 notes)
  3. Insane (4.98 stars, 266 notes)
  4. Normal (3.36 stars, 135 notes)
Download: Kawada Mami - No buts! (TV Size)
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i had fun mapping this, i hope you have fun playing it ;)
Konkord
Great map!! lovin the beat *
Hikato
IRC modding. Star.
Topic Starter
jericho2442
thanks o/
lovhin456
Hey ~

Oh, I love this song ~

General;
- Everything fine here ~

Easy;
- 00:29:180 >> Umm, I don't feel like this spinner should start here, maybe do something like this ??

Start slider at 00:29:180 until 00:29:836 then make another slider at 00:30:491 until 00:30:819 and add 2 repeats then add a spinner that starts at 00:31:803 and ends at 00:34:426
- 01:16:721 ~ 01:18:688 >> This space feels empty because she's holding a note again I was waiting for a slider or a spinner here
- 01:24:262 >> Remove a repeat and move to 01:24:918 ?? It would give a nice effect because the music stops for a second there

Normal;
- 00:37:049 (1,2,3,4) >> Move all one grid down so that (3,4) all align with (5)
- 00:39:180 >> Move to 00:39:344
- 00:41:803 >> Move to 00:41:967

Hard;
- 00:07:541 >> Remove new combo then new combo to the next note
- 00:18:032 >> Add whistle
- 00:20:655 >> ^
- 00:46:393 >> Can you make this spinner like in normal, actually I think the spinners in normal are really well placed and the lenght on all the spinners in normal is good, you should use the same lenght on spinners on all diffs.
- 01:24:262 >> Can you silence, lower or delete this slider ?? Because the music stops for a second here and I think that if you do any of that it would give a nice effect

Insane;
- 01:28:852 >> Finish on end of slider

* Star ~ :3
Topic Starter
jericho2442

lovhin456 wrote:

Hey ~

Oh, I love this song ~

General;
- Everything fine here ~

Easy;
- 00:29:180 >> Umm, I don't feel like this spinner should start here, maybe do something like this ?? no thanks
Start slider at 00:29:180 until 00:29:836 then make another slider at 00:30:491 until 00:30:819 and add 2 repeats then add a spinner that starts at 00:31:803 and ends at 00:34:426 nah
- 01:16:721 ~ 01:18:688 >> This space feels empty because she's holding a note again I was waiting for a slider or a spinner here its a easy diff, i want a break here
- 01:24:262 >> Remove a repeat and move to 01:24:918 ?? It would give a nice effect because the music stops for a second there in easy i dont wanna break the flow

Normal;
- 00:37:049 (1,2,3,4) >> Move all one grid down so that (3,4) all align with (5) fixed
- 00:39:180 >> Move to 00:39:344 no
- 00:41:803 >> Move to 00:41:967 no

Hard;
- 00:07:541 >> Remove new combo then new combo to the next note oh wow, how did i mess that up, thanks xD
- 00:18:032 >> Add whistle fixed
- 00:20:655 >> ^ fixed
- 00:46:393 >> Can you make this spinner like in normal, actually I think the spinners in normal are really well placed and the lenght on all the spinners in normal is good, you should use the same lenght on spinners on all diffs. fixed this one, since it does go nice
- 01:24:262 >> Can you silence, lower or delete this slider ?? Because the music stops for a second here and I think that if you do any of that it would give a nice effect changed

Insane;
- 01:28:852 >> Finish on end of slider changed

* Star ~ :3
oh a good mod ;) thanks alot o/
Taiketsu
Yeah finaly *-*
big ty for mapping this songs love it so much :3
anonymous_old
General
The video cuts off too early. Add a fadeout from the last frame from the video or something so the cut-off isn't so distracting and noticeable. (I can try and help you with this if necessary.)

As I said in IRC, the maps are very rewarding, and they share a common (and fun!) theme, particularly due to the use of sliders.

00:34:754 - IMO needs a break.

Easy
IMO, make the circles larger one tick. This will make 00:17:049 (3,1), etc. more readable.
00:20:983 (3,1) - Hugging too closely IMO.
00:23:934 (1) - Ugly because it's partially symmetrical but ... Just change it.
00:56:557 (4) - See note in the Insane section.
01:05:901 (1,2) - Move further apart.
01:13:114 (3) - Feels terrible.

Normal
00:40:655 (3,4,6,7) - Doesn't fit the main part of the music and doesn't fit the difficulty.
00:44:918 (1,2) - Move further apart.
00:55:409 (1,2) - I don't like this.
01:01:967 (1,2,3) - Make the angle wider (i.e. make the pattern more linear), as it's a bit too easy to assume (1,2) is merely a 1/1 jump.
01:05:901 (1,2) - I still don't like this.
01:26:229 (5) - See note in the Insane section.

Hard
I felt the slider velocity was much too high for the spacing used. Other than that, it felt fine. Definitely fits into the "Hard" difficulty pool.

Insane
00:17:377 (8) - For sliders like this, it's best to align the white points linearly with the centre red point. In other words, move the bottom-left-most slider tick left one grid space. See before and after; notice the "after" sliders look much smoother. (Yes, I saw this while playing, and I knew how to correct it then.) This suggestion goes for the entire map.
00:37:049 - I think this part could have been more epic if you included sliders or jumps or something otherwise "difficult" (excluding streams and retarded beat patterns) or impressive.

Other than that, I found nothing wrong with this map. Certainly above-average for anime music.

Topic Starter
jericho2442

strager wrote:

General
The video cuts off too early. Add a fadeout from the last frame from the video or something so the cut-off isn't so distracting and noticeable. (I can try and help you with this if necessary.) i dont have a good video editing software, so yea i could do with a hand with this :/

As I said in IRC, the maps are very rewarding, and they share a common (and fun!) theme, particularly due to the use of sliders. thanks o/

00:34:754 - IMO needs a break.

Easy
IMO, make the circles larger one tick. This will make 00:17:049 (3,1), etc. more readable. ? there allready the largest
00:20:983 (3,1) - Hugging too closely IMO. fixed
00:23:934 (1) - Ugly because it's partially symmetrical but ... Just change it. fixed
00:56:557 (4) - See note in the Insane section. fixed
01:05:901 (1,2) - Move further apart. dont really see the need for this
01:13:114 (3) - Feels terrible. fixed

Normal
00:40:655 (3,4,6,7) - Doesn't fit the main part of the music and doesn't fit the difficulty. this i will leave as is
00:44:918 (1,2) - Move further apart. moved abit
00:55:409 (1,2) - I don't like this. changed
01:01:967 (1,2,3) - Make the angle wider (i.e. make the pattern more linear), as it's a bit too easy to assume (1,2) is merely a 1/1 jump. sorry i like this
01:05:901 (1,2) - I still don't like this. [color=#0000 FF]changed[/color]
01:26:229 (5) - See note in the Insane section. fixed

Hard
I felt the slider velocity was much too high for the spacing used. Other than that, it felt fine. Definitely fits into the "Hard" difficulty pool.
thanks but i like the slider vel

Insane
00:17:377 (8) - For sliders like this, it's best to align the white points linearly with the centre red point. In other words, move the bottom-left-most slider tick left one grid space. See before and after; notice the "after" sliders look much smoother. (Yes, I saw this while playing, and I knew how to correct it then.) This suggestion goes for the entire map. fixed these
00:37:049 - I think this part could have been more epic if you included sliders or jumps or something otherwise "difficult" (excluding streams and retarded beat patterns) or impressive. tbh i ddint want this pack to be too difficult :x

Other than that, I found nothing wrong with this map. Certainly above-average for anime music.

thanks alot for a EPIC mod post, really helped ;D
Mikkuri
Star ~ :D
Kurai
[Easy]
00:17:049 (3,1) - I think you should change these circle by a slider, this is hard to read for newbs
00:18:360 (3,1) - ^
00:19:672 (3,1) - ^
00:46:885 (1,2) - ^

[Insane]
00:48:032 (5) - The clap sounds a bit weird, I suggest to remove it

Nice map ;)
Star~
Topic Starter
jericho2442

KuraiPettan wrote:

[Easy]
00:17:049 (3,1) - I think you should change these circle by a slider, this is hard to read for newbs
00:18:360 (3,1) - ^
00:19:672 (3,1) - ^
00:46:885 (1,2) - ^ ......D: i think there able to keep a simple rythm xD

[Insane]
00:48:032 (5) - The clap sounds a bit weird, I suggest to remove it nah i will keep it

Nice map ;)
Star~
well thanks for mod anyway o/ xD
Shiirn
Nicely done map, extremely fun to play while not being frustrating when you fail (coughinsane)

Star----
wmfchris
[Insane]
0:01:639 (6,7,8) Suggestion: down 1 grids?
0:06:557 (7,8,9) uneven spacing, maybe (9,10,11) right 1 grid?
0:37:705 (x) add a note?
0:54:262 (2,3,4) uneven spacing, maybe (3,4) left 1 grid?
1:01:147 (6) right 1 grid?

[hard]
0:09:836 (7) Suggestion: up 1 grid, then (1~5) in next combo up 1 grid?
0:58:524 (4,5,6) Suggestion: left 1 grid?

[Normal] and [Easy] is fine~

nice map, star~
Topic Starter
jericho2442

wmfchris wrote:

[Insane]
0:01:639 (6,7,8) Suggestion: down 1 grids? no
0:06:557 (7,8,9) uneven spacing, maybe (9,10,11) right 1 grid? fixed abit
0:37:705 (x) add a note? no
0:54:262 (2,3,4) uneven spacing, maybe (3,4) left 1 grid? fixed up abit
1:01:147 (6) right 1 grid? no

[hard]
0:09:836 (7) Suggestion: up 1 grid, then (1~5) in next combo up 1 grid? no
0:58:524 (4,5,6) Suggestion: left 1 grid? no

[Normal] and [Easy] is fine~

nice map, star~
thanks for mod anyway o/
Doomsday
Yo

  1. The timing sounds close, but maybe it's a bit early. try adding +6 to it (I got 334)
Some cool slider work in here. Always good to see :)

[EASY]

Lookin' good. The only thing I would say is that maybe the part between 00:21:311 & 00:29:180 could have mapped to the lyrics more. Doesn't feel right with it all stuck on white ticks. Everything else is good stuff though.

[NORMAL]

I'll say pretty much the exact same thing I did for Easy. Good stuff, but the part at 00:21:311 & 00:29:180 could have mapped to the lyrics more. Perhaps I'm missing what you were trying to do there though.

[HARD]

Looks clean to me. Can't criticise this one.

[INSANE]

Awesome stuff. Surprised there isn't any jumps there though. I know you tend to have a few in your insanes. I would've just ragged on them anyway, like how I rag on any jumps I mod. :P

Fun stuff. This is probably my favourite map of yours that I've seen anyway. Looks nice and plays nice too. Get that timing fixed and I'll give you a bubble, something I don't do often.
Topic Starter
jericho2442

Doomsday wrote:

Yo

  1. The timing sounds close, but maybe it's a bit early. try adding +6 to it (I got 334)
fixed

Some cool slider work in here. Always good to see :)

[EASY]

Lookin' good. The only thing I would say is that maybe the part between 00:21:311 & 00:29:180 could have mapped to the lyrics more. Doesn't feel right with it all stuck on white ticks. Everything else is good stuff though. ok the reason is i feel that mappping the lyrics for this part would be too difficult for a new player, and making it follow the lyrics with a more simple pattern really did not feel good to me

[NORMAL]

I'll say pretty much the exact same thing I did for Easy. Good stuff, but the part at 00:21:311 & 00:29:180 could have mapped to the lyrics more. Perhaps I'm missing what you were trying to do there though. same as easy

[HARD]

Looks clean to me. Can't criticise this one.

[INSANE]

Awesome stuff. Surprised there isn't any jumps there though. I know you tend to have a few in your insanes. I would've just ragged on them anyway, like how I rag on any jumps I mod. :P

Fun stuff. This is probably my favourite map of yours that I've seen anyway. Looks nice and plays nice too. Get that timing fixed and I'll give you a bubble, something I don't do often.
that means a blooming lot to me coming from you, and i aint lieing there ;)

thanks alot :D
Doomsday

jericho2442 wrote:

that means a blooming lot to me coming from you, and i aint lieing there ;)
<3

A booble is yours
The 08 team_Bourdon
<3 :D
Larto
Remove the finish sound from the last notes on each difficulty (except for normal, because there's no finish sound there on normal.)
Sounds better.
Also, move Easy's last note 1/2 back?

Do that stuff or not, it works either way. I'll rank it after you fix it or not.
Topic Starter
jericho2442
fixed everything, thanks alot larto :)
Larto
Yup, that wasn't a big deal.
lovhin456
Congrats :3
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