xD
That's not bad. But the problem here is that all these are in one train of a pattern. It's like the pattern doesn't have anything specific to follow. More like collecting various large sounds and mixing them into the pattern.Lily Bread wrote:
my mapping style for easy and normal diff: in quiet part, map vocal as many as possible; if there doesn't have vocal or vocal is hard to map, map drum instead.
If you can't bear missing some less important vocals, then it can't be helped. But do you really need to always represent all of them when you can easily nerf it while still following the vocal?Lily Bread wrote:
quite weird, because they are harder than kiai part. see above, so i choose to map drum here.
I don't agree. Not having the same rhythm doesn't mean they're on different parts. They're musically in the same part, and the drum pattern just tells you that. I think it's not a good idea to change what you follow between them.Lily Bread wrote:
2. these two part is not the same in vocal. no reason to map them in same rhythm.
Yeah I know, and now I see you won't let any of the vocals not mapped. I'm just telling you a way to nerf the pattern. I see you don't agree though.Lily Bread wrote:
01:16:856 - here has a vocal.
Then shall I suggest to remove 01:22:150 (7) - this one instead? Then you'll say it has a vocal. I know that very well, and that's why I'm telling you to remove some beats before that, even it does hurt some consistency, because avoiding long 1/2 trains is more important.Lily Bread wrote:
so why did you ignore "consistent" this time?
see - 01:14:430 (6) -
If you hate spinners for these reasons, then why did you put one on 00:27:665 (1) - ? Actually I think a spinner works for both parts, but 00:27:665 (1) - makes you not able to map 00:30:312 - here, so I thought it's better to be removed, while 01:38:253 - this doesn't hurt any other parts.Lily Bread wrote:
why should i add a spinner? i hate spinner. boring and it can't express any music at all.
Doyak wrote:
Sonnyc forced me to take a look at this xD
[Lunatic]
* 01:13:327 (4) - 01:20:386 (1) - Inconsistent NC use. fixed
* 00:34:724 - 00:35:386 - these piano sounds, are represented with whistles on 00:48:842 - 00:49:503 - fixed
* 00:30:312 (3,4,5,6) - 00:32:297 (4,5,6) - Why are these represented differently? One is a train, and the other one is triangle jump. I want.why i use it i said in sonnyc's mod, i will not say it again
* 00:29:430 (1,2,3) - This is the only one you didn't make 00:30:092 - this vocal clickable unlike 00:31:856 - 00:33:621 - 00:37:150 - 00:40:680 - 00:44:209 - 00:45:974 - 00:47:739 - 00:51:268 - 00:53:033 - 00:54:797 - i want use slider here,i dont want it have to many singletap,and for better connect with 00:30:312 (3,4,5,6) - 。 no change,
* 01:04:724 (1,2,3) - This have a big jump pattern to emphasize the sounds, but why not on 01:06:489 (1,2,3) - ? fixed,chaged pattern
* 01:16:194 - There's no sound here, so might be better to make 01:15:974 (3,4) - into a 1/1 slider. its slider,not clickable,i think here is ok,and i want 01:16:415 (4) - clickable.no change
* 01:23:474 (1,2,3) - Seems way too large compared to the rest of your map. Around 2.50 would work better. fixed,use 2.7
[Hard]
* 00:01:195 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Why not use same NC term as Lunatic? want 2 note 1 part,no chage
* 00:18:621 (1) - 00:22:150 (6) - 00:25:680 (5) - Inconsistent NC fixed
* 00:48:621 (6) - Need NC fixed
* 00:59:430 - If you're going to neglect this downbeat, it's better to neglect 00:58:106 - this beat and extend 00:57:665 (1) - to 00:58:327 (2) - to represent the long vocal instead. fixed on 00:59:430 (1) -
* 01:23:033 (3,4,5) - inconsistent spacing on a linear pattern isn't good, as it breaks the flow by suddenly accelerating/breaking the cursor speed without direction change. chaged triangle's ds to 1.6
DreaM117er wrote:
Generally, I checked Doyak's mod first, then knew what happened here...
[Hard][Lunatic]
- This diff doesn't have big problem on rhythm, but you should fix Doyak's mod first.
00:20:386 (1,2) - why don't you use 1/1 or 1/2 slider to fit guitar?? chaged to slider
00:28:989 (3,1) - It have no sense to use large jump on the song going slower. Reduce distance here (DS). Same 00:53:915 (4,1) -
00:37:812 (5,1) - same as this part^ these 1 have accent,i think its ok
00:42:444 (2,3) - fix DS fixed
01:10:459 (2,2) - I hope you set NC on these 2 circles to be more readable. here can be read(its stacked),and i want01:10:900 (1,2,3,4,1) - be a part so nc in01:10:900 (1) -- That's all.
00:07:371 (4,5) - This is what I say "you should fix Doyak's mod first". I hope you should make sure difference of 2/1 and 1/1 rhythm. If you agree, please fix whole diff. if i want change here to manke people notice 1/1,00:07:812 (5) - nc will be the best way? But i dont like use nc very often,its dont look good.i think people can play hard could easy to watch the thythm difference.or by listening.so,no chage herer
00:27:003 (4,5) - Just a question: This pattern isn't too hard for the diff?? 00:27:224 (5,6) - I think you should reduce some distance on this jump. 01:37:592 (6,7,1) - same. these are fine,not very difficult,its Lunatic,not hard.Because song is a little slow,so it can has in icon.(in fact,its a in dif)
00:27:444 (6) - NC fixed
01:10:900 (1,2,3,4) - I'd like to see you make a real star path here. fine.fixed
01:13:327 (4,1) - swap NC fixed on last mod
Go~
maybe she is a little intemperate,but i also fell very angry when mod comes when this map is in qua.the question sonnyc said is not unrankable question(Big questiion).its some advice to improve map's quality(Small question).For this,i think BN should more foucus on Pending maps before they qua.when a map qua,is two or more BNs think its good enough.And if the map shouldnt be ranked,QAT will DQ it,its not BN's thing,BN's thing is to help mappers before their map qualified.Doyak wrote:
It's her decision whether she'll fix it or not. It can be preference. But I'm raising my concerns. I'm asking her if she's really okay with these concerns, not whether she likes it or not. If she's fine with these things, then go ahead, but she's just saying "it's my style", "why do you force me to change", "my mapping, not your mapping" things and never revealed her opinions about my concerns. I'm always happy to listen to the mapper's thoughts.
Sorry but you got this all wrong. This is not how any of this works. Qualified section is exactly for this purpose: to receive feedback. QATs do not work on themselves anymore and you should be aware of this, otherwise it pretty much means you're completely outdated on how the system works. t/447417Momizi wrote:
maybe she has a little intemperate,but i also fell very angry when mod comes when this map is in qua.the question sonnyc said is not unrankable question(Big questiion).its some advice to improve map's quality(Small question).For this,i think BN should more foucus on Pending maps before they qua.when a map qua,is two or more BNs think its good enough.And if the map shouldnt be ranked,QAT will DQ it,its not BN's thing,BN's thing is to help mappers before their map qualified.Doyak wrote:
It's her decision whether she'll fix it or not. It can be preference. But I'm raising my concerns. I'm asking her if she's really okay with these concerns, not whether she likes it or not. If she's fine with these things, then go ahead, but she's just saying "it's my style", "why do you force me to change", "my mapping, not your mapping" things and never revealed her opinions about my concerns. I'm always happy to listen to the mapper's thoughts.
I mean BN should focus on maps in pending not in qua.The time you see a map in qua,you can see many other maps need BN's help.For example,https://osu.ppy.sh/s/226670,its my map.And its very difficult to find BN to mod it.not only me,others are also have the question.and i put this map is want to say,if it ranked,some people like you and sonnyc will mod it and make it dq and then to change some thing.Why not mod map before it qualified?
yes,what you said is right,mapping shoud be a happy thing(wish i can keep this opinion)Minakami Yuki wrote:
take it easy
keep in mind that qualified just means "bubbled #2 and goes to ranked in one week without issues"
/*Lily Bread wrote:
will reply together after 117's mod.