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Vuelo Eluko

chainpullz wrote:

tomden wrote:

2. When I practise my streams I often dont know what to play should I play maps with long streams or maps with short streams and should I start with really low bpm (120-140) or bpm just below my comfort level (175-180).
Everything. Just don't play garbage maps like "long stream practice maps".
those have value, it's an easy way to get that burning sensation in the muscles at the base of your forearm and build stamina
Mahogany
I'd say you should start practicing on like ~165-170bpm streams personally and work your way up to 180

Just as long as you

chainpullz wrote:

don't play garbage maps like "long stream practice maps"
Deva

chainpullz wrote:

Just don't play garbage maps like "long stream practice maps".
Those actually taught me how to stream...
chainpullz

HK_ wrote:

chainpullz wrote:

Just don't play garbage maps like "long stream practice maps".
Those actually taught me how to stream...
Too bad your aim sucks too much to play any actual stream maps because the maps you practiced take 0 aim skill. Not to mention reading. Have fun actually streaming any sort of priti map.
Deva
Talk about rude...
Vuelo Eluko
chain has a point though the dedicated 'long stream practice maps' are made for people who can't play stream maps to feel like they're streaming, you'll not get better at stream maps and all the aspects of playing they require unless you play them

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/91217
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/297933

good stream aim + stamina practice maps for low-mid bpm
real maps
learn to do these and you're well on your way to being good at streams
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Thanks for all the replies.

Pff playing stream maps is so demotivating http://puu.sh/lOgaf/629aaf90b3.jpg getting D on 4.5 star maps lol.
I had better acc in my 2013 plays lol
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xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/91217
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/297933

good stream aim + stamina practice maps for low-mid bpm
real maps
learn to do these and you're well on your way to being good at streams
looks like the first map isnt available anymore :(
Vuelo Eluko
wow that's horse shit, i should re upload it later.
Deva
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/106212

This one has some nice streams too.
Vuelo Eluko
..taiko
may as well autopilot ice angel at that point and hope you get better at streams
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HK_ wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/106212

This one has some nice streams too.
Ye did that map like 5 mins ago managed to get 78% lel. Sometimes I ask myself how I got to rank 20k with this skill :p
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xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

..taiko
may as well autopilot ice angel at that point and hope you get better at streams
I guess he meant the map in general lol
Deva
Then play garbage long stream maps so you could focus 100% on your tapping and when you learn some finger control move to real streams.
Vuelo Eluko

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Sometimes I ask myself how I got to rank 20k with this skill :p
Hit Accuracy: 94.62%
you realize most people at 2800 pp can't fc the kinds stuff you can, right? i can't fc most of the stuff on your top ranks.

being a low acc player typically means you're significantly better than most people with the same pp..

like my senpai
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xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

tomden wrote:

Sometimes I ask myself how I got to rank 20k with this skill :p
Hit Accuracy: 94.62%
you realize most people at 2800 pp can't fc the kinds stuff you can, right? i can't fc most of the stuff on your top ranks.

being a low acc player typically means you're significantly better than most people with the same pp..

like my senpai
Ye but I think it's pathetic that I still cant stream after having 23k plays. and most of my low acc fc's is because i mainly get 100's and 50's on streams :(
Vuelo Eluko
try not being able to aim after 32k plays
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after 8 tries I passed ice angel with 66% acc http://puu.sh/lOkhk/1132301a6e.jpg. Getting decent acc seems impossible :(. But thanks for the map was fun to play :p
chainpullz
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/333074
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/148083
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/243487 <both another & extra
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/422762
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/435350
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/341891
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/550235
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/657054 < Expert is more point and click + reading, eternal incorperates in aim as well
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/487951
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/662767 <- Streams mostly in later half but this map is totally kreygasm
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/665149 <- Priti shiti map
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/718156 <- WWW plz
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/655300
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/675734 <- Stamina not necessary until ~2nd half
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/128780 <- HR if you can't AR8, nomod if you can't OD10/AR10/CS5.2.... FLAUR
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/386759 <- Both infinite and euphoric are good
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/820835 <- harder choir jail
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/839627 <- aim required, streams mostly in later section
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/824085 <- reading/aim required
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/653671 <- very linear spaced streams
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/784043 <- comfort bpm + reading
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/762730 <- aim intensive
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/753968 <- good for reading/aim training on low bpm
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/804534
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/726325 <- low bpm spaced streams
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/797108 <- reading
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/839945 <- fun map with some streamy sections
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/761289 <- Aim/Reading required
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/590001 <- extreme stream aim required

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/765873 <- Goldenwolf
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/335628 <- Likes
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/429989 <- Streams

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/717295 <- Fun read
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/559673 <- Reading
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/814057 <- stream jumps
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/448058
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/722596 <- comfort bpm
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/770576 <- not enough pp
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/583343 <- a little bit of reading required
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/656337 <- slow
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/786883 <- meme
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/230967
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/486619 <- reading
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/690375 <- speed (nanahira plz... XD)

Could come up with a whole lot more if I looked outside of collections.
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@chailpullz Thanks for the list :p.
[Nic]

tomden wrote:

Atm I can only stream 185-200 bpm with OK acc. below 185 bpm ill get like 60-70% acc on the streams cause i cant control my speed. Above 200 bpm is just too fast for me..
For slower streams try pressing down on your keys harder. I don't know if it's just me, but I find it much easier to regulate speed if I use more force.
For faster streams (assuming you have linear key switches) try not to bottom out the keys. I try to only push it as far as the actuation point. It's a little harder to be accurate when pressing lightly however.

tomden wrote:

should I change the keys I use?
What keys you use doesn't really matter, just use what feels best to you. (I use F and G)

tomden wrote:

When I practise my streams I often dont know what to play should I play maps with long streams or maps with short streams and should I start with really low bpm (120-140) or bpm just below my comfort level (175-180).
It seems everyone has a different way of learning in osu! so I can't really say for sure. Personally, "garbage long stream practice maps" seemed to help quite a bit, along with just regular streamy maps of course. I used the long stream practice maps to build stamina and I play maps like Ice Angel, Defenders, etc. to practice overall control. As far as what bpm to practice, I usually played the fastest bpm I could without completley getting rekt.

I'm no pro player so I could be wrong, but I am pretty confident in my streaming ability. Hope this helps!
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mxnic wrote:

It seems everyone has a different way of learning in osu! so I can't really say for sure. Personally, "garbage long stream practice maps" seemed to help quite a bit, along with just regular streamy maps of course. I used the long stream practice maps to build stamina and I play maps like Ice Angel, Defenders, etc. to practice overall control. As far as what bpm to practice, I usually played the fastest bpm I could without completley getting rekt.

I'm no pro player so I could be wrong, but I am pretty confident in my streaming ability. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the tips I'll try to press down the key harders for slow streams because atm I don't even bottom out my keys most of the time. I feel like I dont really need to practise stamina right now, I can play 8 min stream maps without a problem (except for my shitty acc ofc :p) and I feel like playing the highest bpm I can isn't going to help me with lower bpm streams. I notice that my streaming speed has gone up by just playing the game but my acc on low bpm maps is still the same as 1-2 years ago.
Yolshka

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

being a low acc player typically means you're significantly better than most people with the same pp..
I suspected this, and now it is confirmed, my heart in pieces.


I don't have a problem with streams right now, I find square jumps to be much harder.

I used to press keys down hard and tense, sometimes I still do on slow streams, but being gentle is better in every way possible imo, though there isn't really a way to get around it, so I guess tensing isn't all that bad.

By the way I thought those stream practice maps were made for people who can stream already and want to incrase stamina(??).
I've never played any.
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ShadyAngel wrote:

I don't have a problem with streams right now, I find square jumps to be much harder.

I used to press keys down hard and tense, sometimes I still do on slow streams, but being gentle is better in every way possible imo, though there isn't really a way to get around it, so I guess tensing isn't all that bad.

By the way I thought those stream practice maps were made for people who can stream already and want to incrase stamina(??).
I've never played any.
I'm jealous I've never gotten 99+ acc on a 4+ star map :( Btw whenever I have trouble with a jump pattern in a map I go play some 2010 maps and for some reason I'm able to read the jump patterns after that :p.

And about the stream practise maps I guess you can use them to learn to stream I used to play them sometimes and could often get a decent combo but my acc was absolute shit.
Vuelo Eluko

ShadyAngel wrote:

By the way I thought those stream practice maps were made for people who can stream already and want to incrase stamina(??).
I've never played any.
that's one use yes but sadly they are more often used by beginners who don't know any better hoping it will help them.
Zalaria
I feel like I'm in the same boat, only I can't stream to save my life. I can mostly do bursts of 5 notes up to like, 190bpm maybe... Otherwise, streams cause my fingers to lock like crazy.
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Zalaria wrote:

I feel like I'm in the same boat, only I can't stream to save my life. I can mostly do bursts of 5 notes up to like, 190bpm maybe... Otherwise, streams cause my fingers to lock like crazy.
For me it makes no difference if a stream contains 5, 50 or 100 notes I'll have the same acc on all of them, I can't even do low bpm triples with decent acc. I really hope I'll be able to fix some of my 85% acc fcs on low bpm streamy maps soon :p
RaneFire

mxnic wrote:

It seems everyone has a different way of learning in osu! so I can't really say for sure. Personally, "garbage long stream practice maps" seemed to help quite a bit, along with just regular streamy maps of course.
Helped me a lot too.

I wouldn't call them garbage. I just don't think you should start with them. I find that they are good for improving unstable rate and stamina.
buny
play more
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a loli wrote:

play more
Thanks for your contribution to the topic. 10/10
Kunino Sagiri
Please try settling in low bpm (140-170) stream maps. Getting below 97% in those and still plays higher bpms is absolutely NOPEworthy.
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Kunino Sagiri wrote:

Please try settling in low bpm (140-170) stream maps. Getting below 97% in those and still plays higher bpms is absolutely NOPEworthy.
I'll try, I just don't have that many low bpm maps I like to play, most of the low bpm maps I have feel outdated or boring to play :(.
Kunino Sagiri

tomden wrote:

most of the low bpm maps I have feel outdated or boring to play :(.
That's the gist of it. Most of the low bpm stream maps are really ancient and boring to play compared to #2015ebicmaps but you have to somehow endure that.
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Kunino Sagiri wrote:

That's the gist of it. Most of the low bpm stream maps are really ancient and boring to play compared to #2015ebicmaps but you have to somehow endure that.
K thanks for the reply. I'll try to endure them ^^ and at the same time I'm also practising my ar 7-8 reading :p
Endie-
Spam 140 bpm maps. Get control over your speed
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erikG wrote:

Spam 140 bpm maps. Get control over your speed
K I just decided that I'm going to play low bpm maps till I have 24k playcount. If I dont see any improvement by then I give up and go back to my old playstyle :p
Endie-

tomden wrote:

erikG wrote:

Spam 140 bpm maps. Get control over your speed
K I just decided that I'm going to play low bpm maps till I have 24k playcount. If I dont see any improvement by then I give up and go back to my old playstyle :p
Never give up
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erikG wrote:

Never give up
I'll try :p I just get depressed by seeing only c and d ranks when I play low bpm maps http://puu.sh/lQfXf/509388c60c.jpg :(. Even more when I see that I have better plays that I made in 2013 on some of these maps.

eg I just played https://osu.ppy.sh/s/25871 and got 77.6% acc and 9 misses but I have a play on that map made on 23/08/2013 (at this point I had like 1k playcount) and had 78.49% acc with 3 misses :p I know both plays are total garbage but it still depresses me to see 0 improvement after 2+ years
Endie-

tomden wrote:

erikG wrote:

Never give up
I'll try :p I just get depressed by seeing only c and d ranks when I play low bpm maps http://puu.sh/lQfXf/509388c60c.jpg :(. Even more when I see that I have better plays that I made in 2013 on some of these maps.

eg I just played https://osu.ppy.sh/s/25871 and got 77.6% acc and 9 misses but I have a play on that map made on 23/08/2013 (at this point I had like 1k playcount) and had 78.49% acc with 3 misses :p I know both plays are total garbage but it still depresses me to see 0 improvement after 2+ years
Mind if I spectate you sometime? I think I'll get a better look on what harms your play.
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erikG wrote:

Mind if I spectate you sometime? I think I'll get a better look on what harms your play.
I would love if you could spectate me and give some feedback :p. cause I really don't know what to do to improve my play ^^
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