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Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
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Vert

sahuang wrote:

学妹
00:15:896 (3,4) - 明明音比00:15:547 (1,2) - 低。。为什么间距变大了啊 感觉没啥问题我听音都一样啊。。
00:19:733 (1,1,1) - 这边那么多NC的理由？前面00:14:500 (1,2,3) - 变速了都没NC呢 取消了
我怎么感觉开头这边NC好随意。。不是按照白线来分的吗，有时候8条有时候4条
01:11:361 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 不考虑等间距跳？ 我比较喜欢这种梗
比如01:12:407 (1,2) - 感觉stack就很尴尬。。
01:15:721 (1,2,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - 不是很懂NC规则，感觉很乱 我nc下的向来傻逼，取消了几个
01:37:524 (2) - 可以做个弧形 可以
01:39:966 (5,6,7,8) - 这边stack也很伤flow吧 改了一个

F D Flourite wrote:

[list]
General
[*]Timing明显off了，offset应该在1608 我自己觉得没啥问题啊，反正我耳朵也不好使回头问问别人再看是不是要调吧
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Vert's Part
[*]00:19:733 (1,1,1) - 这种普通的旋转也要nc啊...太花哨了，连00:14:500 (1,2,3) - 变速你都没加nc 改嘞
[*]00:26:710 - 这里开始的5%反馈实在是太低了，与此相对的却是加速，所以建议改这里的音效（比如soft-hitwhistle一类的）而不是降音量 啊音效随便弄的，到时候会让yoru下。。不好意思忘了说。。
[*]00:31:245 (2,3) - clap音效swap。抛开24clap不说，00:31:259 (2) - 明显有一个很响的鼓点
[*]00:44:675 (6) - NC？
[*]00:39:617 (8,1) - swap NC
[*]00:45:198 (9,10) - 一向不喜欢打这种滑条跳接stack停顿，也没什么乐曲含义 还好吧，我个人比较喜欢这种。。
[*]01:12:407 (1,2) - 这里的击打感（弱）刚好和音效（强）相反。所以建议1,2拆开stack。应该是我乱下音效的问题;w;还是交给yoru了
[*]01:28:105 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - 完全没有听明白中间怎么突然来了一段这么花哨的overmap。建议不要这样连着overmap，比如01:28:716 (1) - 把这个去掉。 这段bgm的节奏起伏我觉得还是比较大的，所以并不觉得有overmap啊。。然后去掉那个note的话梗的连贯性就没有了，感觉不好，所以就不改了
[*]01:39:617 (3,4,5,6) - 一是这个距离很容易被挑，二是打起来真的不舒服，理由同00:45:198 (9,10) - 改了一点
[*]01:50:256 (1) - 没有听懂这个clap，感觉比较别扭
[*]01:58:803 (3,4) - 白线起的三连无感 没看懂。。不过我个人觉得还好
[*]02:08:047 (6) - NC? 好
thx for modding ! XD
[Crz]Makii
450 posts
Joined November 2014
[Crz]Makii
NM，送摸啦
[Vert]
  1. 00:27:582 (4) - NC下
  2. 00:28:280 - 70%好吵啊。。低一些？
  3. 00:34:035 (3) - 这个往下来一点怎么样，123和234角度差的有点大
  4. 00:51:303 (4) - NC，因为00:40:140 (1) - 这个NC了，保持一致
  5. 01:20:605 (4) - 变速了NC下？
  6. 01:33:687 (1,2,3,4) - 人声在这里加大了，考虑大一点的间距？
  7. 01:50:256 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 卧槽好坑啊。。
  8. 02:34:384 (1,2,3,4,1) - 间距略大，vocal有变低，这里肯定不适合和02:33:338 (3,4,5,6) - 差不多间距
  9. 神
[Break]
咦我摸break干嘛

[Yoru]
  1. 神
  2. 03:00:198 - ？？？突然降低这么多音量 要降柑橘也是应该人声开始就下降
  3. 03:08:832 (2,3,4) - 啊 感觉好容易读错...后面好像有不少...每个23后的滑条NC下可能会好一些？
  4. 03:48:512 (4,5) - ctrl+G 好一点吧。。。
  5. 03:59:500 (3,4,5,6) - 4有点近了吧。。改一下?
  6. 04:27:756 (7,8,9) - 总柑橘不大好看
  7. 美丽
[Yuki]
  1. 05:03:163 (2) - 这个感觉还是NC一下的比较好
  2. 05:27:059 (2) - 前面1/3滑条，这里变1/4串也NC下比较好
  3. 05:32:117 (6) - 我感觉叠在5上就可以了
  4. 05:48:163 (4) - 考虑给个角度？在直线上不大好，x173y250就感觉可以
  5. 06:22:524 (1,2) - 有点狠了吧。。。这里也不是很高的升调，建议弄小一点马拉松打到这断了是要砸键盘的
  6. 神
神图摸不动qwq
gl!
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
M4M

[General]
  1. 因为前面有人提到offset的问题所以我就去听了一下，他说的没错offset肯定给早了，应该差不多1610。同样，摸按你的offset摸
  2. 干，od9.1人玩？而且这图也不算好打acc，对我们这种菜逼来说太残忍了
[Vert]
  1. 你的NC下法跟其他两个人似乎不太一样，他俩是这样的：03:05:605 (8,9,1) - 03:14:064 (7,1) - 05:23:745 (5,6,1) - 05:25:140 (9,10,1) - 你是这样的：00:34:907 (1,2,3) - 00:47:553 (1,2) - 00:44:675 (1,2) - 00:47:553 (1,2) - ……01:28:367 (1,2) - ……作为合作难度，这个真的要统一一下，要不然玩起来简直那啥。个人更希望你改用他俩的nc方式
  2. 00:49:035 (4) - 00:51:826 (1) - 这段nc是不是错了两条白线？
  3. 00:17:989 - 这之前这段的sv或者ds能不能降一些，现在这里鼓点进来了之后跟前面并没有什么区别甚至ds还变小了，感觉不太好
  4. 00:23:570 (1) - 00:27:233 (3) - 00:27:931 (5) - 这种滑条尾还是静音一下吧
  5. 02:31:419 (1) - 这里去掉nc然后加在02:31:768 (2) - 上会好读得多
[Yoru]
  1. 03:36:477 (1,1,1,2,3,4) - 天呐……虽然我知道这怪自己太菜，但他俩的部分好像没有这么过分的东西。03:16:245 (1,1) - 这里有一点，虽然比3:36要简单（如果不是合作难度的话这种东西我很喜欢
  2. ……天呐撸，怎么好像你这整段都是这一类的……打起来真的很好玩但是作为合作难度我个人觉得太卧槽了，不过看上去也没法改了……其他没啥问题……我服了，跪拜神麻婆
[Yuki]
  1. 没问题
实际的节奏或者排列好像一点都没摸出来orz 射个星

GL~
Gust
516 posts
Joined December 2011
Gust
[Vert]
01:26:884 (1,2) - 建议调换顺序，2的slider接1-3-4三个circle，感觉比较合vocal
01:36:477 (1,2,3) - DS可以调小一些？从这里开始后面一段节奏比较轻。后面的DS也都相对调小了唯独这里很大。如果是合节奏的流势也应该是01:35:954 (1,2,3) - 间距大，然后这三个间距小才对。不太懂这个下法（还是我听得有问题?）

[Yoru]
03:37:175 (2,3) - 这个DS实在太大了。。想不到下这么大的理由。。

[Yuki]
06:23:396 (1,2) - 这里重音感觉和前面没区别，为什么DS缩得这么小，不懂。

感觉摸不出什么东西 :D
风格差异明显
kanor
925 posts
Joined August 2013
kanor
01:21:477 (7) - 改成滑条怎么1/2滑条怎么样？这里的停顿听起来不是很舒服
03:14:500 (2) - 这个滑条头尾加个clap怎么样，干脆一点
03:40:314 (3) - 这里把单点改成三连怎么样？从03:40:140 - 开始，后面的也是，只是三个点带过去感觉还是有点空
06:09:966 (1) - 这里和前面的flow会不会有点卡手？
06:22:698 (2,1,1) - 这里不考虑做成和02:36:652 (1,2,3) - 这样的吗
06:28:977 (3,4,5) - 不是很明白这里为什么要用这么小的DS，整张图的DS都挺大的，像02:36:652 (1,2,3) - 这种也是因为有重音，没有提示突然降低DS会不会有点坑
06:40:140 (3,4,5) - ^

总体的话，感觉Vert爷爷的第一段挺稳的，但是到了yoru爷爷的那一段绿线极差开始大起来了（最直观的感受是挺多类似弹射的感觉）虽然很神不过会不会有点坑......能不能试着稍微中和一下
萌新水膜，求眼熟♪(^∇^*)
_MiaoFUuU_
314 posts
Joined April 2014
_MiaoFUuU_
Timing 严重抢拍了，整体Timing move 14-17，这个幅度就差不多了。
00:27:247 (3) - 这个滑条的结尾，最好插一条绿线，声音5%，然后下一个开头插上绿线，声音（原来的%），之后类似这种摆法也这么做（重复音很别扭）
00:39:631 (1,2,3) - 这3个逐个Ctrl+G一下（打起来不舒服）
00:44:689 (1,2,3,4) - 这个地方和 00:39:108 (6,7) - 这里还有 00:49:747 (1,2,3) - 这里的节奏一样，短滑条排列要改改，打起来也奇怪。
01:27:770 (5) - 这里开始节奏应该这样摆：圈圈-滑条-圈圈-滑条圈圈滑条-滑条.比较好（红色-放红线，蓝色-放蓝线）
01:50:445 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - 这里你看这样摆节奏会不会好点？ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5123828
01:53:759 (4) - 这里的滑条不要放在上一个圈圈的位置（节奏快突然变换节奏慢又不用移动打起来会很奇怪的）
03:06:317 (4,5) - 这里我不清楚是跟节奏还是跟人声...（有点模糊）
03:08:584 (1,2,3,4) - 直接跟节奏放更好吧 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5123096
03:16:956 - 这里开始有连打声，摸到这里感觉就是：连打滥用，该用时没用。
03:39:282 - 这里该跟人声放滑条的，不然歌的感觉都没有了。
03:56:375 (2) - 这里又跳过了人声和节奏点了。。（其实这种摆法只有在第一次人声从白线拖到下一个白线才用到的，你这里红线明显有人声和节奏点，就不能这样用了）
后面的节奏开始就没什么梗了，然后就是3处kiai部分的排列和节奏都出入很大，个人认为第3个正常点。。

总结：关于节奏和人声方面的配合还要努力改进，然后节奏点没有的节奏不要乱加上去，尽量跟节奏走，不然打起来会很奇怪的哦。
KaedekaShizuru
625 posts
Joined January 2013
KaedekaShizuru
M4M

[General]
timing off
offset+17

[Storyborad]
忠告：虽然做的是widescreen，但还是请照顾使用4:3分辨率的玩家。因（哔——）一般的bug还是什么，就算勾选了widescreen support，对于标屏玩家来说超出4:3比例范围的素材仍被游戏窗口边界遮挡不可见。design界面有相应的边框，放置关键素材如collaber、lyric之类的时候一定要注意。
给我慢着 你把collaber直接P到BG上了？？？？
SPOILER

用全黑的图来遮挡感觉好蠢 还把sbload搞得特别高 虽说没超标；直接用淡入淡出的效果做BG全黑不就可以了？到最后的06:57:495 BG又突然蹦出来了
P.S.：两个singer的name效果处理得不好 与BG还有其它文字类素材的效果格格不入 显得很突兀

[Vert]
02:06:128 (3,4,5) - 转向角度太大了 这里并没有突然拔高或者下潜的旋律支持 我个人最多接受＞60°的 http://puu.sh/oNSuj/f437ebf6cb.jpg
02:15:547 (3,4,1,2,1,2) - 这些一组一组的节奏不是应该跟02:17:640 (1,2,3) 一样么 你现在这种下法给人音乐减速或者鼓点变缓的感觉 但实际上曲子并没有减速
02:20:431 (3,1,2) - ↑ 根据鼓点 02:20:431 (3) 应该是两个circle单点而02:20:780 (1,2) 应该是slider
02:29:152 (2,3,4) - 不太合适的三连 向上的走向也很难受
NC感觉很乱

[Yoru]
03:14:849 - 补一个circle
03:26:535 (1) - 跟03:25:314 (1) 的slider head叠一下吧 或者错开半个身位；03:26:361 (4) 跟进


[Yuki]
06:34:733 (3) - 这样也许更好玩 http://puu.sh/oNT2n/c0de921024.jpg

我觉得我看图标准放的还是比较宽的233
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vert

KaedekaShizuru wrote:

M4M

[General]
timing off
offset+17 好

[Storyborad]
忠告：虽然做的是widescreen，但还是请照顾使用4:3分辨率的玩家。因（哔——）一般的bug还是什么，就算勾选了widescreen support，对于标屏玩家来说超出4:3比例范围的素材仍被游戏窗口边界遮挡不可见。design界面有相应的边框，放置关键素材如collaber、lyric之类的时候一定要注意。yf说不用考虑非宽屏用户
给我慢着 你把collaber直接P到BG上了？？？？对呀
SPOILER

用全黑的图来遮挡感觉好蠢 还把sbload搞得特别高 虽说没超标；直接用淡入淡出的效果做BG全黑不就可以了？到最后的06:57:495 BG又突然蹦出来了全黑是yf教的，后面应该是我拉短了一些，改了
P.S.：两个singer的name效果处理得不好 与BG还有其它文字类素材的效果格格不入 显得很突兀同意，我让yf帮我修一下好了

[Vert]
02:06:128 (3,4,5) - 转向角度太大了 这里并没有突然拔高或者下潜的旋律支持 我个人最多接受＞60°的 我摆物件都是通过间距和sv来体现节奏的，flow嘛我觉得无所谓http://puu.sh/oNSuj/f437ebf6cb.jpg
02:15:547 (3,4,1,2,1,2) - 这些一组一组的节奏不是应该跟02:17:640 (1,2,3) 一样么 你现在这种下法给人音乐减速或者鼓点变缓的感觉 但实际上曲子并没有减速 我觉得有减速啊。。感觉上
02:20:431 (3,1,2) - ↑ 根据鼓点 02:20:431 (3) 应该是两个circle单点而02:20:780 (1,2) 应该是slider 跟的人声，所以我尽量是人唱的地方能按
02:29:152 (2,3,4) - 不太合适的三连 向上的走向也很难受 音就这样，没啥问题吧。。要改也是改成折返而我不喜欢折返
NC感觉很乱同意，回头我重新下一遍

Frenkie09 wrote:

Timing 严重抢拍了，整体Timing move 14-17，这个幅度就差不多了。
00:27:247 (3) - 这个滑条的结尾，最好插一条绿线，声音5%，然后下一个开头插上绿线，声音（原来的%），之后类似这种摆法也这么做（重复音很别扭） ok
00:39:631 (1,2,3) - 这3个逐个Ctrl+G一下（打起来不舒服）故意的
00:44:689 (1,2,3,4) - 这个地方和 00:39:108 (6,7) - 这里还有 00:49:747 (1,2,3) - 这里的节奏一样，短滑条排列要改改，打起来也奇怪。还好吧，我自己打觉得没啥问题
01:27:770 (5) - 这里开始节奏应该这样摆：圈圈-滑条-圈圈-滑条圈圈滑条-滑条.比较好（红色-放红线，蓝色-放蓝线）没看懂。。不过我觉得我这个节奏没啥问题。。个人喜好
01:50:445 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - 这里你看这样摆节奏会不会好点？ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5123828 嘿，故意的，这样感觉比较刺激
01:53:759 (4) - 这里的滑条不要放在上一个圈圈的位置（节奏快突然变换节奏慢又不用移动打起来会很奇怪的） 要的是这种停顿感

kanor wrote:

01:21:477 (7) - 改成滑条怎么1/2滑条怎么样？这里的停顿听起来不是很舒服还好吧;w;没觉得有什么不妥

Frost Moon wrote:

[Vert]
01:26:884 (1,2) - 建议调换顺序，2的slider接1-3-4三个circle，感觉比较合vocal 可
01:36:477 (1,2,3) - DS可以调小一些？从这里开始后面一段节奏比较轻。后面的DS也都相对调小了唯独这里很大。如果是合节奏的流势也应该是01:35:954 (1,2,3) - 间距大，然后这三个间距小才对。不太懂这个下法（还是我听得有问题?）因为01:36:477 (1,2,3) - 这三个和前面三个相比是个升调，自然ds就大了一些

Pata-Mon wrote:

M4M

[General]
  1. 因为前面有人提到offset的问题所以我就去听了一下，他说的没错offset肯定给早了，应该差不多1610。同样，摸按你的offset摸 好，回头就改
  2. 干，od9.1人玩？而且这图也不算好打acc，对我们这种菜逼来说太残忍了 嘻嘻
[Vert]
  1. 你的NC下法跟其他两个人似乎不太一样，他俩是这样的：03:05:605 (8,9,1) - 03:14:064 (7,1) - 05:23:745 (5,6,1) - 05:25:140 (9,10,1) - 你是这样的：00:34:907 (1,2,3) - 00:47:553 (1,2) - 00:44:675 (1,2) - 00:47:553 (1,2) - ……01:28:367 (1,2) - ……作为合作难度，这个真的要统一一下，要不然玩起来简直那啥。个人更希望你改用他俩的nc方式
  2. 00:49:035 (4) - 00:51:826 (1) - 这段nc是不是错了两条白线？ nc回头我统一下一遍
  3. 00:17:989 - 这之前这段的sv或者ds能不能降一些，现在这里鼓点进来了之后跟前面并没有什么区别甚至ds还变小了，感觉不太好 其实差不太多吧，前面不是很好改所以就不改了 ;w;大概没啥问题
  4. 00:23:570 (1) - 00:27:233 (3) - 00:27:931 (5) - 这种滑条尾还是静音一下吧 恩
  5. 02:31:419 (1) - 这里去掉nc然后加在02:31:768 (2) - 上会好读得多

[Crz]Sword wrote:

[Vert]
  1. 00:27:582 (4) - NC下 nc问题统一改
  2. 00:28:280 - 70%好吵啊。。低一些？ 还好吧，和前面突出对比一下
  3. 00:34:035 (3) - 这个往下来一点怎么样，123和234角度差的有点大 还好吧，没太大差别
  4. 00:51:303 (4) - NC，因为00:40:140 (1) - 这个NC了，保持一致
  5. 01:20:605 (4) - 变速了NC下？
  6. 01:33:687 (1,2,3,4) - 人声在这里加大了，考虑大一点的间距？ 12很大了，然后34声音变小了所以间距小了，好像没啥问题
  7. 01:50:256 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 卧槽好坑啊。。刺激
  8. 02:34:384 (1,2,3,4,1) - 间距略大，vocal有变低，这里肯定不适合和02:33:338 (3,4,5,6) - 差不多间距 因为是同一句话。。我自己也没感觉vocal变低了;w;所以就不改了

really sorry for late reply
and thanks modding !
sodarose
607 posts
Joined July 2011
sodarose
M4M
01:28:383 (1,1,1) - 这几个overmap有点不懂
02:18:354 (1) - 尾巴Whistle
02:24:110 (2) - Whistle
03:01:958 (7) - Whistle
04:21:319 (2) - Whistle
04:26:900 (2) - ^
06:40:505 (5) - Normal-hit

好像美丽;w;
7分钟才一个break啊
Koiyuki
2,531 posts
Joined March 2013
Koiyuki
sahuang

sahuang wrote:

Yuki
05:21:128 (1,3) - blanket？这不是blanket
05:46:245 (1,3) - imo you can avoid complete overlap here,it's hard to read 并不，1没变速2没藏头
我错了，以为是外国人 ？？？？
FD

F D Flourite wrote:

Yuki's Part
[*]05:17:466 (3,1,2,3) - 这种钝角flow最不好打了 我觉得能打 我自己也能打
[*]05:25:140 (9,10,1) - 额，可以把9,10和1的头尾修成直线么？ ？是直线啊
[*]06:13:977 (5) - 把这个circle往左上移（比如和06:12:756 (1) - 的tail overlap）的flow会好一些吧 考虑看别人有没有说吧[/list]
Crzswoard

[Crz]Sword wrote:

[Yuki]
  1. 05:03:163 (2) - 这个感觉还是NC一下的比较好 buyong
  2. 05:27:059 (2) - 前面1/3滑条，这里变1/4串也NC下比较好 我换了下nc顺序
  3. 05:32:117 (6) - 我感觉叠在5上就可以了 改了下梗，下的的确不太好
  4. 05:48:163 (4) - 考虑给个角度？在直线上不大好，x173y250就感觉可以 不改
  5. 06:22:524 (1,2) - 有点狠了吧。。。这里也不是很高的升调，建议弄小一点马拉松打到这断了是要砸键盘的 不要太高估竖直方向的大跳，这是所有大跳里面最好接的，为了方便打换了个方向
  6. 神
!
Frost Moon

Frost Moon wrote:

[Yuki]
06:23:396 (1,2) - 这里重音感觉和前面没区别，为什么DS缩得这么小，不懂。 因为我们要善良地走向终点
kanor

kanor wrote:

06:09:966 (1) - 这里和前面的flow会不会有点卡手？
06:22:698 (2,1,1) - 这里不考虑做成和02:36:652 (1,2,3) - 这样的吗
06:28:977 (3,4,5) - 不是很明白这里为什么要用这么小的DS，整张图的DS都挺大的，像02:36:652 (1,2,3) - 这种也是因为有重音，没有提示突然降低DS会不会有点坑 个人觉得这里适合Antijump，的确可能会有点坑但并不是不能读
06:40:140 (3,4,5) - ^
@kksr: 个人不太喜欢哪里放1/4, 还是keep

thanks for modding

只有我那部分的code，从314168（5:14:168）开始
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186,255,361261,2,0,L|197:313,1,47.9999985351563,8|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
346,360,361435,2,0,L|337:312,1,47.9999985351563,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,105,361610,6,0,P|157:118|39:116,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
297,34,362307,1,0,1:0:0:0:
312,112,362482,1,0,1:0:0:0:
426,61,362656,1,8,1:2:0:0:
297,34,362830,1,0,0:0:0:0:
411,139,363005,6,0,P|401:216|421:322,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
499,274,363528,1,0,0:0:0:0:
330,180,363703,2,0,P|327:219|331:259,1,80,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
499,353,364051,2,0,P|503:313|499:274,1,80,8|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
342,346,364400,6,0,B|270:334|270:334|173:351,2,160,0|8|0,1:0|0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
227,258,365272,1,0,1:0:0:0:
132,276,365447,1,8,1:2:0:0:
251,231,365621,1,0,0:0:0:0:
32,130,365796,5,0,1:0:0:0:
51,223,365970,1,0,1:0:0:0:
153,60,366144,5,8,1:2:0:0:
147,154,366318,1,0,0:0:0:0:
286,21,366493,5,2,1:2:0:0:
255,110,366667,1,0,3:0:0:0:
255,110,366755,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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189,155,369284,2,0,P|199:194|204:234,1,80,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
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339,63,371028,1,8,1:2:0:0:
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246,149,372075,5,0,1:0:0:0:
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196,67,372336,1,2,1:0:0:0:
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105,364,373819,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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245,208,374168,6,0,L|436:191,1,191.999994140625,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
369,286,374691,2,0,P|351:202|436:191,1,191.999994140625,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
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111,133,376871,1,8,0:0:0:0:
111,133,376958,6,0,P|120:204|120:276,1,143.999995605469,8|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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201,155,377482,2,0,P|197:105|183:53,1,95.9999970703126,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
46,203,377830,6,0,P|136:220|201:155,1,191.999994140625,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
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448,140,379400,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,225,379575,1,0,0:0:0:0:
378,69,379749,5,0,1:0:0:0:
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460,285,380098,1,8,0:0:0:0:
460,285,380272,1,0,1:0:0:0:
234,249,380447,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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242,100,381668,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,264,381842,2,0,P|375:253|423:248,1,95.9999970703126,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
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119,21,384458,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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239,227,385854,2,0,P|245:158|177:170,1,160,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
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138,171,389168,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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331,176,390040,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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414,326,391435,2,0,L|234:342,1,160,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
151,216,391958,1,8,0:0:0:0:
278,231,392133,1,0,0:0:0:0:
101,353,392307,6,0,B|88:326|91:282|91:282|108:238,1,120,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
151,216,392656,2,0,L|144:115,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
101,15,393005,1,0,1:0:0:0:
205,54,393179,1,0,1:0:0:0:
67,97,393354,1,8,1:2:0:0:
238,43,393528,2,0,P|277:49|317:51,1,80,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
478,157,393877,5,4,1:2:0:0:
460,30,394051,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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335,349,394923,1,8,0:0:0:0:
311,344,395011,1,8,0:0:0:0:
286,339,395098,6,0,P|207:342|127:360,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,221,395621,1,0,1:0:0:0:
173,259,395796,1,0,1:0:0:0:
173,259,395970,1,0,1:0:0:0:
52,300,396144,2,0,L|60:221,1,80,8|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
293,217,396493,6,0,P|372:220|452:238,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
498,83,397016,2,0,P|449:62|458:141,1,160,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
345,36,397540,1,8,0:0:0:0:
498,83,397714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
379,191,397889,6,0,P|319:193|262:212,1,120,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
217,229,398237,2,0,L|222:149,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
111,22,398586,1,0,1:0:0:0:
125,197,398761,1,0,1:0:0:0:
111,22,398935,2,0,L|116:101,1,80,8|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,308,399284,6,0,L|223:149,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,101,399807,1,0,1:0:0:0:
370,67,400156,1,0,1:0:0:0:
393,63,400330,1,8,0:0:0:0:
416,59,400505,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,53,400679,6,0,P|366:69|377:141,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,265,401203,1,0,1:0:0:0:
502,171,401377,1,0,1:0:0:0:
502,171,401551,1,0,1:0:0:0:
354,235,401726,2,0,P|316:230|279:209,1,80,8|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
163,101,402075,6,0,L|176:260,1,160,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
293,369,402598,2,0,L|280:210,1,160,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
176,260,403121,1,8,0:0:0:0:
280,210,403296,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,356,403470,6,0,B|127:349|127:349|43:364,1,120,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
18,349,403819,2,0,P|13:307|18:269,1,80,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
155,135,404168,1,0,1:0:0:0:
176,260,404342,1,0,1:0:0:0:
57,181,404516,1,8,1:2:0:0:
274,214,404691,2,0,L|379:205,1,80,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
253,89,405040,5,4,1:2:0:0:
176,260,405214,1,8,0:0:0:0:
401,202,405389,5,4,1:2:0:0:
155,135,405563,1,0,1:0:0:0:
340,354,405737,5,8,0:0:0:0:
340,354,405825,1,8,0:0:0:0:
340,354,405912,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,196,406086,1,8,0:0:0:0:
445,172,406173,1,8,0:0:0:0:
440,142,406261,6,0,P|440:111|443:79,1,64,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
355,27,406610,2,0,P|355:58|352:90,1,64,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,142,406958,1,0,0:0:0:0:
218,145,407133,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,99,407307,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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218,145,407830,5,0,0:0:0:0:
156,99,408005,1,2,0:0:0:0:
81,116,408179,1,0,0:0:0:0:
39,180,408354,2,0,P|30:210|27:242,1,64,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
125,275,408703,2,0,P|121:243|113:212,1,64,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,116,409051,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,409139,12,0,411668,0:0:0:0:
Hakurei Yoru
688 posts
Joined September 2013
Hakurei Yoru
@Frenkie09 并不觉得一定要跟连打……主音轨还是相当明显的
@FDF 变速段想尽力去保持一下，并没有overmap 目前自己觉得是行得通的，其他的都改了
@KaedekaShizuru 都改拉
@sodarose 音效都改

嗯看了很多都是说变速段……先……keep（纠结中

http://puu.sh/p73X4/47a33a66d6.osu
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vert

sodarose wrote:

M4M
01:28:383 (1,1,1) - 这几个overmap有点不懂 有音啊，而且个人比较喜欢这个梗

7分钟才一个break啊嘻嘻，本来规划是2个break结果yuki做了那段所以就剩一个了
Kayano
1,286 posts
Joined July 2011
Kayano
m4m

00:39:807 (2,3,1,2,3) - flow不太好 00:40:156 (1,2) - 能水平一点的话打着舒服得多
01:46:086 (4,5) - 跟前面段落间距不搭 太远了 我感觉还是一整段都慢一点比较好
02:14:255 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - 试试1/4拉开点距离？ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5255870
再考虑下1/4滑条的用法吧 用太多了

03:16:261 (1) - remove NC
03:16:435 (1) - 可以换成1/2回转滑条 强行用梗感觉一般
04:06:842 (3,4,5,6,1) - 连打间距太小反而别扭 kiai里面的连打ds都拉开到0.6-0.8比较合适

nice
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vert

OniJAM wrote:

00:39:807 (2,3,1,2,3) - flow不太好 00:40:156 (1,2) - 能水平一点的话打着舒服得多 嘻嘻，故意的，后面连打这个角度是因为和前面旋转的角度一样，恩
01:46:086 (4,5) - 跟前面段落间距不搭 太远了 我感觉还是一整段都慢一点比较好 确实，这一小段稍微重新做了一下，好像好多了
02:14:255 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - 试试1/4拉开点距离？ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5255870 改了，1/4还好吧？有些地方不想放连打的又想塞满，于是就这样了
再考虑下1/4滑条的用法吧 用太多了
thx for modding XD
and updated sb
EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
EncoreW
[Bystander]

00:01:610 (1) - 这个NC太长了，00:02:656 (5) - 感觉这里应该可以NC，而且00:03:528 (9) - 这个感觉有点多余，听上去的话 00:01:610 (1,2,3,4) - 00:02:656 (5,6,7,8) - 是没什么区别的，00:03:877 (1) - 的NC移到 00:03:703 (10) - 这里

00:07:889 (1) - 这种地方还我的话我就考虑跟vocal了 http://puu.sh/pycse/b8c9cba10a.jpg

00:12:249 - 这地方好像也不用空着

00:18:005 (1) - 这地方的音效听不见啊，而且这不是默认的slidertick的音效吗

00:28:470 (2) - 讲道理1/4从这里就可以开始放起来了，00:28:470 (2,3) - 这两个换成1/4滑条应该可行

00:34:400 - 00:35:621 (5) - 这几个地方应该是要有音效的

00:51:842 - 这里开始白线上的音效漏的好多啊，00:52:191 - 00:52:540 - 00:53:237 - 00:53:586 - 00:54:982 - 00:55:330 - 00:56:028 - 00:56:377 (2) - 00:57:772 - 00:58:121 - 00:58:819 - 01:00:563 - 01:00:912 (1) - 01:01:261 - 01:01:610 - 01:01:958 - ，我觉得你应该单独找一个音效放在这些白线上，因为这也是鼓点的一种，现在的 whistle不适合这样的鼓点，另外00:56:203 - 00:58:993 - 这地方不需要whistle

01:02:307 (1,2,3,4) - 这四个我觉得都可以是 drum finish，01:02:307 (1) - 这个在加个whistle

01:11:377 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 这地方不用叠起来，感觉更适合放跳

01:47:482 (2,3,4) - 感觉更适合 drum sampleset，01:47:743 - 这地方太响了

01:51:668 (1) - 感觉这种明显降速的滑条更适合用弯的形状

01:55:418 (7,8) - 这两个drum sampleset没看懂，另外02:06:232 (4) - 这个应该跟 02:06:144 (3) - 的差不多啊，也是不应该用 drum sampleset，还有02:09:371 (2,3,4) - 这里，讲道理这样的串我觉得根本不适合用 drum sampleset，建议还是用 soft sampleset，这种音效打串的时候根本打不出感觉，我有点奇怪为什么这个图最没打击感的音效居然是drum，最有打击感的居然是soft

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03:03:528 (3,4) - 这里感觉应该跟 vocal，你这两个滑条我不知道跟的什么但是肯定不会是vocal

03:12:423 (6) - 放串啊别怂

03:39:284 (1,2,3) - 这种地方我觉得 note之间错开一些点点比较好

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说到底我觉得你好好找几个牛逼点的音效至少能解决我上面讲的至少一半的问题
Mei
1,053 posts
Joined March 2012
Mei
怎么又2个osb，怀疑是高级用法

[满头包]
  1. 05:34:051 (2,3) - 距离近一点比较好，比如这样
  2. 06:12:772 (1) - 漏人声

[有如]
  1. 02:54:633 从这里开始感觉节奏很迷啊，比如这个03:01:261 (5) - 怎么听都觉得漏音了
  2. 03:06:842 (3) - 你们怎么都喜欢这种排列，接在低速滑条后面完全就是jb啊
  3. 04:32:830 (3) - ctrl+g
  4. 05:03:005 (1,2) - 有点太近了



[学妹]
  1. 00:04:051 (2) - 我觉得吧，还是换成单点听起来自然些，虽然滑条也没什么问题
  2. 00:08:063 (2) - 删掉好些，前面跟的空一点比较好
  3. 00:10:330 (4) - 换成单点
  4. 00:33:703 (1,2) - ctrl+G?
  5. 00:39:633 (1,2,3) - 这三个滑条还是反过来我觉得接后面的串顺些，只是前面那个单点要移
  6. 00:45:214 (4) - 移到5的尾巴上，虽然有点jb
  7. 00:47:569 (1,2) - too jb
  8. 00:54:110 (4) - 还是滑条吧，白线漏的很难听
  9. 01:16:261 (1) - 1移到3的头上这样的排列试试
  10. 01:25:330 (4,1) - 换下NC
学妹niubia
Vert
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Topic Starter
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Mei wrote:

怎么又2个osb，怀疑是高级用法 嘻嘻改metadata遗留的

[学妹]
  1. 00:04:051 (2) - 我觉得吧，还是换成单点听起来自然些，虽然滑条也没什么问题 没问题就不改了
  2. 00:08:063 (2) - 删掉好些，前面跟的空一点比较好 我觉得还好啊，前后都空一拍不是那么舒服，开头反正无所谓嘛
  3. 00:10:330 (4) - 换成单点 不好吧，后面那么长一个音不喜欢空一下
  4. 00:33:703 (1,2) - ctrl+G? 可以
  5. 00:39:633 (1,2,3) - 这三个滑条还是反过来我觉得接后面的串顺些，只是前面那个单点要移 嘻嘻，就不反，反正我自己能打
  6. 00:45:214 (4) - 移到5的尾巴上，虽然有点jb 感觉没必要吧，现在这样挺好的啊
  7. 00:47:569 (1,2) - too jb 好好好，删了1
  8. 00:54:110 (4) - 还是滑条吧，白线漏的很难听 反正跟的vocal
  9. 01:16:261 (1) - 1移到3的头上这样的排列试试 因为这俩音一样所以就原地了
  10. 01:25:330 (4,1) - 换下NC 好

T-Mac wrote:

[Bystander]

00:01:610 (1) - 这个NC太长了，00:02:656 (5) - 感觉这里应该可以NC，而且00:03:528 (9) - 这个感觉有点多余，听上去的话 00:01:610 (1,2,3,4) - 00:02:656 (5,6,7,8) - 是没什么区别的，00:03:877 (1) - 的NC移到 00:03:703 (10) - 这里

00:07:889 (1) - 这种地方还我的话我就考虑跟vocal了 http://puu.sh/pycse/b8c9cba10a.jpg 之前考虑过改成这样，不过后来发现不太好排列，所以就算了，当前其实打起来没啥太大问题

00:12:249 - 这地方好像也不用空着 当年的我比较喜欢这种顿一下的感觉所以就这样吧

00:18:005 (1) - 这地方的音效听不见啊，而且这不是默认的slidertick的音效吗 改成soft whistle了

00:28:470 (2) - 讲道理1/4从这里就可以开始放起来了，00:28:470 (2,3) - 这两个换成1/4滑条应该可行 我怎么完全感觉不到。。所以还是不改了

00:34:400 - 00:35:621 (5) - 这几个地方应该是要有音效的 hao

00:51:842 - 这里开始白线上的音效漏的好多啊，00:52:191 - 00:52:540 - 00:53:237 - 00:53:586 - 00:54:982 - 00:55:330 - 00:56:028 - 00:56:377 (2) - 00:57:772 - 00:58:121 - 00:58:819 - 01:00:563 - 01:00:912 (1) - 01:01:261 - 01:01:610 - 01:01:958 - ，我觉得你应该单独找一个音效放在这些白线上，因为这也是鼓点的一种，现在的 whistle不适合这样的鼓点，另外00:56:203 - 00:58:993 - 这地方不需要whistle 全都改了，自己加了个音效

01:02:307 (1,2,3,4) - 这四个我觉得都可以是 drum finish，01:02:307 (1) - 这个在加个whistle ok

01:11:377 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 这地方不用叠起来，感觉更适合放跳 个人觉得现在这样就挺好

01:47:482 (2,3,4) - 感觉更适合 drum sampleset，01:47:743 - 这地方太响了 改了

01:51:668 (1) - 感觉这种明显降速的滑条更适合用弯的形状 改成弧形了

01:55:418 (7,8) - 这两个drum sampleset没看懂，另外02:06:232 (4) - 这个应该跟 02:06:144 (3) - 的差不多啊，也是不应该用 drum sampleset，还有02:09:371 (2,3,4) - 这里，讲道理这样的串我觉得根本不适合用 drum sampleset，建议还是用 soft sampleset，这种音效打串的时候根本打不出感觉，我有点奇怪为什么这个图最没打击感的音效居然是drum，最有打击感的居然是soft 嘿嘿，改了


说到底我觉得你好好找几个牛逼点的音效至少能解决我上面讲的至少一半的问题 毕竟我和红白作图理念有些不同音效都是他下的可能有些地方不合适吧（
thx for modding
Mafumafu
Beatmap Nominator
3,367 posts
Joined August 2013
Mafumafu
00:01:610 (1) - 感觉一开始这里把音跟全比较好
00:08:063 (2) - 这个可以考虑删掉
00:11:377 (5,6,7) - 突然增大间距有点莫名其妙的感觉
00:39:633 (1,2,3,1) - flow有点卡手
02:31:435 (1,2) - 交换NC
03:06:057 (2,3,4,5) - 有点难读
03:06:493 (5,6) - 不建议1/4这么远，因为后面是连打
03:07:889 (5,6) - ^
03:22:889 (2) - vocal落在尾巴上有点别扭
03:36:493 (1,1,1,2,3,4) - ？？？
03:58:819 (1,2) - 有点容易读成1/2
04:34:226 (1,2) - ^
05:03:005 (1,2) - 稍放远一点
05:46:261 (1,3) - 还是稍错开一点比较好
06:17:307 (2) - 1/4滑条会不会更带感一些？
老M无敌
加油！
Koiyuki
2,531 posts
Joined March 2013
Koiyuki

Regraz wrote:

05:03:005 (1,2) - 稍放远一点 没必要，本来就是慢下来的地方
05:46:261 (1,3) - 还是稍错开一点比较好 hao
06:17:307 (2) - 1/4滑条会不会更带感一些？ 这个1/4距离有点远了，还是用note吧

我无敌
@Mei, 第一个改了，第二个不改

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81,116,408179,1,0,0:0:0:0:
39,180,408354,2,0,P|30:210|27:242,1,64,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
125,275,408703,2,0,P|121:243|113:212,1,64,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,116,409051,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,409139,12,0,411668,0:0:0:0:
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vert
fix yoru's part cuz she is busy

OniJAM wrote:

m4m
03:16:261 (1) - remove NC ok
03:16:435 (1) - 可以换成1/2回转滑条 强行用梗感觉一般 感觉没什么大问题就不改了
04:06:842 (3,4,5,6,1) - 连打间距太小反而别扭 kiai里面的连打ds都拉开到0.6-0.8比较合适 ^

T-Mac wrote:

[Bystander]
03:03:528 (3,4) - 这里感觉应该跟 vocal，你这两个滑条我不知道跟的什么但是肯定不会是vocal 改了

03:12:423 (6) - 放串啊别怂 可以

03:39:284 (1,2,3) - 这种地方我觉得 note之间错开一些点点比较好 感觉没什么大影响就不改了

Mei wrote:

[有如]
  1. 02:54:633 从这里开始感觉节奏很迷啊，比如这个03:01:261 (5) - 怎么听都觉得漏音了 我也觉得是，不过先不改了，等他回来看看吧
  2. 03:06:842 (3) - 你们怎么都喜欢这种排列，接在低速滑条后面完全就是jb啊 是的他就是这么几把
  3. 04:32:830 (3) - ctrl+g ok
  4. 05:03:005 (1,2) - 有点太近了 朋友，这是mtb的部分

Regraz wrote:

00:01:610 (1) - 感觉一开始这里把音跟全比较好 是这样的，这一段就00:02:482 - 这里漏了吧，不过前后音都比较大所以为了突出一下就没放，而且是开始塞满不一定好
00:08:063 (2) - 这个可以考虑删掉 删了
00:11:377 (5,6,7) - 突然增大间距有点莫名其妙的感觉 前后节奏差别挺大的啊
00:39:633 (1,2,3,1) - flow有点卡手 故意滴
02:31:435 (1,2) - 交换NC 可以
03:06:057 (2,3,4,5) - 有点难读 红白标准坑爹梗，我就不擅自改了，至少看起来没问题
03:06:493 (5,6) - 不建议1/4这么远，因为后面是连打 3/4滑条的话应该没问题，顶多断个尾不会断cb
03:07:889 (5,6) - ^ ^
03:22:889 (2) - vocal落在尾巴上有点别扭 红白并不是跟vocal的选手
03:36:493 (1,1,1,2,3,4) - ？？？ 其实打起来不算难吧，突然加速我觉得是因为vocal突然变大了
03:58:819 (1,2) - 有点容易读成1/2 这个大概没问题吧？没有变速从滑条长度来看应该可以看出来
04:34:226 (1,2) - ^ 这个改了，把2放近了一些

因为是帮改所以有些东西我觉得能不改的就尽量不改了，嘻嘻
thx for modding XD
MirinH
726 posts
Joined January 2013
MirinH
m4m
我的圖：https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481783

00:05:621 (6) - 我覺得你可以去掉這個凸顯電音
00:12:249 - 漏音，是錯覺嗎
00:16:086 (4) - 變1/1滑條凸顯vocal
01:04:051 (5,6) - 我覺得你可以把主歌這段 像這樣vocal的時候來個跳，很有感覺
01:25:156 (3) - 用聯打啊
01:28:732 (1,2,1,2) - 這個nc就很莫名了
01:53:237 (1,2,3) - 我真覺得vocal用note比短滑條有感覺
02:01:086 (1,2) - 同樣，不建議本1/2的東西使用1/4短滑表達，沒有打擊感
02:15:563 (3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 這裏無腦spam1/2吧，這樣顯得太空太突然
------------------------------------------------
03:06:057 (2,3,4) - 03:08:848 (2,3,4) - 這tm誰讀的清楚啊，至少加個nc吧
03:15:389 - 我需要鋼琴聲
03:16:958 (1,2,3) - 你這三個節奏接不上後面啊，後面辣麽密，這裏辣麽稀
03:26:551 (1,2,3) - 換1/2滑條，相信你會喜歡
03:30:214 (4,5) - 前面這裏不是1/4嗎
04:24:633 (3,4) - 分開點

good luck
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vert

Mackenzie wrote:

m4m
我的圖：https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481783

00:05:621 (6) - 我覺得你可以去掉這個凸顯電音 00:04:575 (2) - 和前面一样吧，感觉没必要改
00:12:249 - 漏音，是錯覺嗎 加了个圈
00:16:086 (4) - 變1/1滑條凸顯vocal 我在这停顿了一下就是为了凸显vocal,1/1滑条的话后面的vocal只能在滑条尾了，不舒服
01:04:051 (5,6) - 我覺得你可以把主歌這段 像這樣vocal的時候來個跳，很有感覺 感觉还不到跳的时候啊，后面kiai更适合
01:25:156 (3) - 用聯打啊 为了照顾vocal啊，基本这种地方我都下的滑条
01:28:732 (1,2,1,2) - 這個nc就很莫名了 改了
01:53:237 (1,2,3) - 我真覺得vocal用note比短滑條有感覺 这个改了
02:01:086 (1,2) - 同樣，不建議本1/2的東西使用1/4短滑表達，沒有打擊感 暂时没想到怎么改好，所以先放着吧
02:15:563 (3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 這裏無腦spam1/2吧，這樣顯得太空太突然前面比较激昂，这里为了凸显一下平缓段所以先这样我觉得没问题
回晚了，嘻嘻
thx for modding
Pentori
1,157 posts
Joined November 2015
Pentori
hello!

[General]
unused file: BGblack.png
set combo colours?

[Vert]
00:02:133 - 00:02:482 - 00:03:179 - plays quite awkwardly here when you ignore the piano that can be heard :/ if you don't want to emphasise it as much you should use a slider instead of leaving it blank imo
00:08:237 (2) - the vocal on the end of the slider is quite important because its accented, why not build a rhythm so that this 00:08:412 - is clickable?
00:15:563 (1,2,3) - reduce the spacing between these notes. its still in a slow section and i dont think its good to have consistent jumps here. by lowering the ds here, the spacing of 00:15:563 (1,4) - will stand out.
00:19:575 - add note here. not good to ignore obvious vocal tbh
00:34:400 - 00:35:621 (5) - i find this finish hitsounding very strange because there are a lot of other cymbals in the music that you haven't added finishes too. i can point some out 00:37:191 (4) - 00:41:203 (3) - 00:42:772 . since the cymbals are just part of the music, it would be better to not use finishes for them
00:58:470 (5,1) - spacing between these two beats should be higher than 00:58:296 (4,5)
01:16:261 (1) - whats the point of nc here?
01:05:272 (3,4,5) - these jumps are rly big for a slow section :/
01:09:807 (1) - why normal sampleset here? its the same sound as 01:08:412 (1)
01:16:261 (1) - i dont see the need for nc here
01:37:016 (4) - ^ it can be easily read without the nc
01:59:691 (1) - how about you remove nc here and add it here 02:00:214 (4) - for readability
02:09:982 (6,7) - this looks like extended slider usage because of the pattern and very low ds. this actually works well as an extended slider so i would extend 02:09:982 (6) - to the blue tick
02:20:796 (1) - it would make more sense to nc this 02:21:144 (3) - instead of what you have now, because you nced your other downbeats
02:23:237 (1) - should really avoid all this nc spam. these ncs aren't necessary
02:25:331 (5) - because you nc'ed 02:24:633 (1) - you should nc 02:25:331 (5) - as well to have consistent nc's with your patterns.
going to stop mentioning nc's here because there are a lot that you can probably fix on your own, going by the basis of my mod
02:36:144 (7,8,9) - different triplet usage is strange here. there also isn't a triplet here in the music. instead you could use triplet + kick slider. http://puu.sh/qSj21/afdcabef8e.jpg

[Yoru]
03:06:057 (2,3,4) - 03:08:848 (2,3,4) - this is really hard to read.. when players see three approach circles they normally just play triplets without thinking
03:22:365 (4,1) - why make the downbeat have the smallest ds? putting it on the end of 03:22:191 (3) - would kinda work if you reduced distance of the pattern a bit
04:33:354 (8) - nc because of ds change

[Yuki]
05:34:749 (5,1) - hm, you were mapping guitar the entire time and this note is like the highest one yet has smallest ds :/

good luck!
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vert

Pentori wrote:

hello!

[General]
unused file: BGblack.png deleted
set combo colours? set

[Vert]
00:02:133 - 00:02:482 - 00:03:179 - plays quite awkwardly here when you ignore the piano that can be heard :/ if you don't want to emphasise it as much you should use a slider instead of leaving it blank imo i really didnt heard anything in 00:02:133 - 00:03:179 - and also i added a circle at 00:02:482 -
00:08:237 (2) - the vocal on the end of the slider is quite important because its accented, why not build a rhythm so that this 00:08:412 - is clickable? ok , i changed it to a cirle+a slider
00:15:563 (1,2,3) - reduce the spacing between these notes. its still in a slow section and i dont think its good to have consistent jumps here. by lowering the ds here, the spacing of 00:15:563 (1,4) - will stand out. compared with the previous part ，i think the beat here is stronger ,so i put it a little farther,so i only moved 3 closer
00:19:575 - add note here. not good to ignore obvious vocal tbh yes,added
00:34:400 - 00:35:621 (5) - i find this finish hitsounding very strange because there are a lot of other cymbals in the music that you haven't added finishes too. i can point some out 00:37:191 (4) - 00:41:203 (3) - 00:42:772 . since the cymbals are just part of the music, it would be better to not use finishes for them ok ,cancelled
00:58:470 (5,1) - spacing between these two beats should be higher than 00:58:296 (4,5) fixed
01:16:261 (1) - whats the point of nc here? XD,simlpe mistake
01:05:272 (3,4,5) - these jumps are rly big for a slow section :/ ok i changed this part to reduce the distance
01:09:807 (1) - why normal sampleset here? its the same sound as 01:08:412 (1) fixed
01:16:261 (1) - i dont see the need for nc here ^
01:37:016 (4) - ^ it can be easily read without the nc ^
01:59:691 (1) - how about you remove nc here and add it here 02:00:214 (4) - for readability ^
02:09:982 (6,7) - this looks like extended slider usage because of the pattern and very low ds. this actually works well as an extended slider so i would extend 02:09:982 (6) - to the blue tick but it will seem bad,so i make a sv change to make it more clear and also added a nc
02:20:796 (1) - it would make more sense to nc this 02:21:144 (3) - instead of what you have now, because you nced your other downbeats
02:23:237 (1) - should really avoid all this nc spam. these ncs aren't necessary
02:25:331 (5) - because you nc'ed 02:24:633 (1) - you should nc 02:25:331 (5) - as well to have consistent nc's with your patterns.
going to stop mentioning nc's here because there are a lot that you can probably fix on your own, going by the basis of my modok,most of the nc problems are fixed and changed some others by my own
02:36:144 (7,8,9) - different triplet usage is strange here. there also isn't a triplet here in the music. instead you could use triplet + kick slider. http://puu.sh/qSj21/afdcabef8e.jpg ok
thx a lot !!!!
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho
placehold
  • Black is Personal comments.
    Bold Black is Highly recommended to fix.
    Red is Unrankable that you should fix.

[General]
  1. BGblack.png貌似是沒用的
  2. 無用綠線：
    00:39:284 -
    00:40:679 -
    00:50:621 -
    02:54:633 -
    03:15:737 -
    03:16:435 -
    04:50:970 -

[Bystander]

  • Vert：
  1. 01:20:621 (4) - 這滑條什麼鬼，為何要減速？然後其次滑條尾是重音，我建議改成圓圈或者滑條頭會比較好
  2. 02:46:262 (1) - Unsnap滑條，正確的時間應該是02:46:261
    Hakurei Yoru：
  3. 02:58:470 (1,2) - 分別ctrl+G一下比較好
  4. 03:18:528 (4) - NC？
  5. 03:20:621 (4) - ^
  6. 03:26:377 (4,1) - 現在的間距和前面的物件有點太近，放到03:24:982 (4) - 滑條頭的位置比較好
    Koiyuki：
  7. 05:34:575 (4,5,1) - 這間距也太尷尬了，是說51的間距太近了，還不如疊一起
Rizia
3,114 posts
Joined January 2012
Rizia
[Bystander]
  1. 00:28:644 (3,4) - 這裡之間的flow有點卡住 可以找一個順點的擺法 例如下圖
    SPOILER
  2. 01:20:621 (4) - 感覺不用特意變速得這麼慢
  3. 01:33:877 (2) - 疊到 x316 y344 做個交叉跳會比較有趣
  4. 02:01:522 (4) - 這個note聽上去有點不自然 前面overmap挺好的
  5. 03:22:540 (1) - 根據前面03:21:842 (1,2,3,4) - 是上下上下移動的 這樣的話03:22:540 (1) - 如果是放在下面的會較順吧
  6. 03:48:005 - 有人聲 也跟了會較好
  7. 03:56:377 (2) - 這個我覺得用1/2就夠了
Koiyuki
2,531 posts
Joined March 2013
Koiyuki
@Pentori： lol
@Kencho: 就是故意的嘿嘿
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vert

Kencho wrote:

[General]
  1. BGblack.png貌似是沒用的 之前就删掉了
  2. 無用綠線：
    00:39:284 -
    00:40:679 -
    00:50:621 -
    02:54:633 -
    03:15:737 -
    03:16:435 -
    04:50:970 - all deleted

[Bystander]

  • Vert：
  1. 01:20:621 (4) - 這滑條什麼鬼，為何要減速？然後其次滑條尾是重音，我建議改成圓圈或者滑條頭會比較好 减速去了，我是跟的vocal所以不改了
  2. 02:46:262 (1) - Unsnap滑條，正確的時間應該是02:46:261 挪了，莫名我之前都查过啊
    Hakurei Yoru：
  3. 02:58:470 (1,2) - 分別ctrl+G一下比較好 可以
  4. 03:18:528 (4) - NC？
  5. 03:20:621 (4) - ^
  6. 03:26:377 (4,1) - 現在的間距和前面的物件有點太近，放到03:24:982 (4) - 滑條頭的位置比較好还好吧，我觉得没啥问题

Rizia wrote:

[Bystander]
  1. 00:28:644 (3,4) - 這裡之間的flow有點卡住 可以找一個順點的擺法 例如下圖 ok,稍微改了一下
    SPOILER
  2. 01:20:621 (4) - 感覺不用特意變速得這麼慢 好，取消变速了
  3. 01:33:877 (2) - 疊到 x316 y344 做個交叉跳會比較有趣 可以
  4. 02:01:522 (4) - 這個note聽上去有點不自然 前面overmap挺好的 那我把音效改回soft了
  5. 03:22:540 (1) - 根據前面03:21:842 (1,2,3,4) - 是上下上下移動的 這樣的話03:22:540 (1) - 如果是放在下面的會較順吧 我也是这样认为的，12都挪下去了
  6. 03:48:005 - 有人聲 也跟了會較好 这红白从来不跟人声的，所以我就不加了
  7. 03:56:377 (2) - 這個我覺得用1/2就夠了好

aaaaaa，红白afk我帮他改摸，老M真是强，没有需要改的，all updated
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho
#1
Bubbled!
Rizia
3,114 posts
Joined January 2012
Rizia
2
Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
00:03:877 (2,3) - 难看，不如滑条弄成直的
00:27:598 (4) - 加个NC?
03:13:819 (6,2) - 有点粗糙

厉害了
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vert

Karen wrote:

00:03:877 (2,3) - 难看，不如滑条弄成直的 还好？主要是和后面00:04:749 (3) - 对称的
00:27:598 (4) - 加个NC? 可以
03:13:819 (6,2) - 有点粗糙 挪了一下

厉害了 我的人格
updated!!
Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
3
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
nba
domSaur
1,263 posts
Joined December 2013
domSaur
i've been waiting for a map of this song to get ranked noice gZ
Cyc17-
128 posts
Joined July 2011
Cyc17-
你们整天飞飞飞
你们飞菟我飞妈
(又要rank 为什么是又:D
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Meg
1,617 posts
Joined August 2012
Meg
03:05:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - SV changes on this part is too hard to read imo. it doesn't fit compared to other parts, so i think it's out of place in this map. if you want to use SV changes, please use NC at least xd
also 03:06:144 (3,4) - like these stacks make hard to read. i think this pattern looks cool. however, it should be playable and readable
this is not opinion as mapper, is as player
IamKwaN
osu! Alumni
3,905 posts
Joined August 2012
IamKwaN
As requested.
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
Vert

Meg wrote:

03:05:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - SV changes on this part is too hard to read imo. it doesn't fit compared to other parts, so i think it's out of place in this map. if you want to use SV changes, please use NC at least xd
also 03:06:144 (3,4) - like these stacks make hard to read. i think this pattern looks cool. however, it should be playable and readable
this is not opinion as mapper, is as player
thanks for looking at my map,I know that pattern is really hard to read so I will add some NCs,but patterns will not be changed ,they are really fun
I will update it next morning
Meg
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Joined August 2012
Meg
i see~ Good luck!
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