Won't take much. Last time Warwick was FoTM actually FoTW because he was nerfed almost immediately. He does a lot of things riot hates and thats why he has been kept in a shitty spot for so long, but since riot likes to nerf nerf nerf nerf it eventually will get to the point people start spamming him as an immovable rock top again. Nerf cycle OP.

Such is the fate of all MOBA

Is it? I haven't really played much dota 2 since the cb almost 2 years ago, but I have been playing a lot of Smite lately and there isn't much nerfs compared to kit reworks and buffs. Then again it's still in beta until march 2014.

All a nerf cycle really does is make the game stale over time look at league for example. There is a difference between a champion being strong and broken, but it seems people don't know the difference. If something is strong just buff the weaker stuff so it can compete.

At this point I would much rather everything be OP because at least then it will get to the point you would have to outplay your opponent to win instead of winning because the champion you picked is better than 90% of the other champions in that same role.

I've been playing both DOTA ang LOL for along time now and both has had some extreme nerfs over the years. (Don't know about HON though since I don't play it) Only thing is League's nerfs affects the game heavily because of it's simplicity. When nerfs are done in DOTA or DOTA 2 it Isn't much of a big deal since there are tons of ways to counter said nerf. But I do agree that Riot nerfs and overpowers champs too often. They should take a lesson from Icefrog and balance champs as best as they can and not keep rotating OPs and Nefrs.

Edit: also Dota 2 has also used the "nerf one guy and buff the other" tactic (I.E. Alchemist ult nerf and blood seeker movement speed exeeding max buff in the same patch).
Seems both MOBA tycoons use this tactic. We may not understand it but there is probably a reason to why they do this.

I agree.

It's easier to nerf something than it is to buff unfortunately. If something falls to the depths after a nerf it's better for the game as opposed to the opposite as long as it's in small doses, but that's not the case in league since this is the product of years of nerfs with minimal buffs to the weaker champs that have been weak for a very long time. I honestly think Riot is getting lazy with things. They use the "lack of resources" excuse way too much it's quite funny actually since that was their main excuse with the no winter summoners rift. Then some guy makes a custom winter map in about a week http://yurixyworks.com/category/game-mo ... oner-rift/. They throw so much into the esports scene that it's starting to screw over some of it's players. It's just sad.

I've delved into icefrogs work and I don't know why this guy gets so much hate for his work. He is single handily doing a much better job than the balance team at Riot currently.

oh hi ezreal

So, NA > EU Kappa

Kanye West wrote:

So, NA > EU Kappa

NA challenger is EU bronze V

Ceph23 wrote:

I've been playing both DOTA ang LOL for along time now and both has had some extreme nerfs over the years. (Don't know about HON though since I don't play it) Only thing is League's nerfs affects the game heavily because of it's simplicity. When nerfs are done in DOTA or DOTA 2 it Isn't much of a big deal since there are tons of ways to counter said nerf. But I do agree that Riot nerfs and overpowers champs too often. They should take a lesson from Icefrog and balance champs as best as they can and not keep rotating OPs and Nefrs.

Edit: also Dota 2 has also used the "nerf one guy and buff the other" tactic (I.E. Alchemist ult nerf and blood seeker movement speed exeeding max buff in the same patch).
Seems both MOBA tycoons use this tactic. We may not understand it but there is probably a reason to why they do this.

I have to say nerfing in Dota is nowhere near the level of LoL. Here is a summary of all balancing changes to Dota heroes over the past few years http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1349921 buffs are green, nerfs are pink. As you can see there are WAY more buffs than nerfs.

Kanye West wrote:

So, NA > EU Kappa

C9 played well, Fnatic was not even close to the level they played at last split and at worlds. Sad to see, cyanide says a part is having Rekkles now which doesn't play TF carries like Puszu and forces him to make early plays. In my opinion xpeke doesn't shine anymore and gets so much behind every time in lane, in combination with some questionable team setups.

Think this tournament mainly showed how much EU is stronger in general and how NA mainly consists out of TSM and C9. Vulcun didn't really look promising and played really sloppy.

I hope LD does fine this LCS split, I think they can do decently and only being together for 2 weeks allowed TSM to stomp them, though they played the 2nd game not too bad.

eu is shit
na is shit
we're all shit

korea is the shit

maal wrote:

eu is shit
na is shit
we're all shit

korea is the shit

+1

SiFly wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

So, NA > EU Kappa

C9 played well, Fnatic was not even close to the level they played at last split and at worlds. Sad to see, cyanide says a part is having Rekkles now which doesn't play TF carries like Puszu and forces him to make early plays. In my opinion xpeke doesn't shine anymore and gets so much behind every time in lane, in combination with some questionable team setups.

Think this tournament mainly showed how much EU is stronger in general and how NA mainly consists out of TSM and C9. Vulcun didn't really look promising and played really sloppy.

I hope LD does fine this LCS split, I think they can do decently and only being together for 2 weeks allowed TSM to stomp them, though they played the 2nd game not too bad.

Yeah most of the matchups for BotA were really bad. Should have been C9 vs Gambit and TSM vs Alliance/Fnatic imo. But yeah I agree EU as a whole seems to have many really good teams. 7/8 EU LCS teams look really damn good while only C9 and TSM can really compete internationally from NA. And I think Fnatic just needs some time to adapt to the current meta and they'll be top tier again

And then you have Korea where even the bronze 5 ranked teams are better than our pro teams kappa

me = genius

i guess i beat my record of assists lel

TKiller wrote:

me = genius

Hi Akali

Tshemmp wrote:

I have to say nerfing in Dota is nowhere near the level of LoL. Here is a summary of all balancing changes to Dota heroes over the past few years http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1349921 buffs are green, nerfs are pink. As you can see there are WAY more buffs than nerfs.

Thanks for posting this!

Now when someone tries to tell me that dota balances the same way as league does I know they are full of crap.

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MERRY CHRISTMAS LEAGUE THREAD

tyrael6192 wrote:

MERRY CHRISTMAS LEAGUE THREAD

merry christmas dimmer

merry christmas email

Pls cry more, Taric....just please.

WTF. A bieber is retiring from music and planning to become a pro league player/streamer? please tell me this is not true

Slith wrote:

WTF. A bieber is retiring from music and planning to become a pro league player/streamer? please tell me this is not true

What? Where did you hear this?

Ceph23 wrote:

Slith wrote:

WTF. A bieber is retiring from music and planning to become a pro league player/streamer? please tell me this is not true

What? Where did you hear this?

Who believes that shit

SoG Tava wrote:

Slith wrote:

WTF. A bieber is retiring from music and planning to become a pro league player/streamer? please tell me this is not true

What? Where did you hear this?

my friend shared it to me. here it is https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=639801159398834&set=a.430978590281093.94453.430976320281320&type=1&theater

sounds legit

it pretty much hurts for me, how that thing will interact with team mates and such. though i'll just laugh

You aren't seriously believing this, are you?

Also fastest win ever confirmed

critplank op, eune op, kata op

Also, I highly doubt that's real. But if it is, I'm going to make him sing "Baby baby baby, run"

Toughts on Yasuo so far ? , i realy enjoy playing him , he has a great potential

He's really fun to play and juke around, his teamfights are kinda meh if you don't get a good ult off
Really dumb to play against since he doesn't have cooldowns and ressources, a pretty strong shield and his ridiculous crit passive

I hope Riot is either gonna change that passive and/or give his E a higher CD

those wrote:

TKiller wrote:

me = genius

Hi Akali

That was actually an experiment for Pantheon which went quite okay more than once. Been using those quints on Akali for the past week as well, but hybrid pen marks.

I feel like spellvamp quints are highly underrated overall. With WotA being weird as it is now, Akali sustain nerfed really hard back when Lich Bane became magic on-hit, and still no spellvamp items for AD champions Gunblade AD part being nerfed long ago, I find them worth using myself, especially over AD quints which I pretty much only use for stuff like level 1-2 kills.

On Patheon those allowed me to clear waves mid-end game between skirmishes much faster while still recovering HP. Much more minor sustain improvement early, but noticable. Also despite E being AoE, it still recovers a plenty of HP when used on a pack of minons/more than 1 champion.

I don't expect to kill opponent before hitting level 7 on Akali, when you have more than 1 ultimate stack. At this point AP quints become much less valuable with base damage rising and ap/level kicking in. If the laner is terrible enough to get killed before, you don't really need AP quints either. Questionable in friendly gank situations. Doran's shield + pot start kills your pre 4-5 trades, AP quints or not; Doran's ring + 2 pots make your enemy much stronger, so you have to use Q to trade less, and when you actually trade, those 2 health pots come in; Flask+pots - you got the point.

Vlad is yet to be tested but revolver gets you a low amount of ap for a high cost, WotA upgrade is quite costly and gives less AP than before, useful CDR and useless mana regen. Spellvamp quints give you half of revolver spellvamp, making getting AP items straight away more tempting. MS quints might still be king for Vlad though, I don't know.

Mundo! Last hitting with cleavers is costly even with half cost returned, hard to notice with high base hp regen, but it actually is. Much more noticable if you're getting damaged while doing so. Spellvamp quints make cleavers return much more health when hitting, also later in the game hitting high health targets returns even more (and you have a spirit visage). Plus there's not much quints impactful for Mundo anyway (%HP? Hue.)

I'd use those one Ryze, but I am currently building WotA on him and feeling quite good. They'd still act like a Doran's blade for an ADC early game.

Had funny results with Kha'Zix, but I'm not much of a Kha'Zix player. Still, insane spellvamp from isolated Q casts on low cooldown.

All in all, same with other utility quints, you sacrifice power for a unique stat. Fits my playstyle really good. Dunno how well it'll carry on when (if) I get higher in the ladder, since I'm only platinum 3 right now, got back to playing League without building Manamune Scarners top lane not so long ago.

I've only played ARAM for about 3 times and all of those games I played as Alistar. I mean, WTF!? I don't even play that guy -_-

You're still lucky you didn't get consecutive Soraka. ARAM's a bitch.

RNG is always a bitch.

I own 111 champions yet it insists that I should play Rammus.

Question. I got a second monitor for Christmas but I can't figure out how to make the League of Legends game actually open on my second monitor. Essentially, my left one is for my desktop, icons, etc etc and my right one's for gaming. But I can't make the game stay on the right monitor.

I know I need to use Windowed/Borderless Windowed, but that's not helping me swap the monitor.

I read that NVidea has something in the control panel that can help, but I haven't found it.

Help, anyone?

The dumbest yet simpliest solution would be to use main monitor for games and secondary for applications.

Dunno, I just drag windows back and forth depending on if I'm playing something or not, my use of second monitor consist of watching streams/movies in the background anyway.

Well that and I don't use desctop shortcuts.

TKiller wrote:

The dumbest yet simpliest solution would be to use main monitor for games and secondary for applications.

Dunno, I just drag windows back and forth depending on if I'm playing something or not, my use of second monitor consist of watching streams/movies in the background anyway.

Well that and I don't use desctop shortcuts.

I guess that is the dumbest and simplest solution, huh? lol.
Done. Thanks for help, TKiller!