Petit Rabbit's - No Poi! [Osu|CatchTheBeat|Taiko] · forum

ffstar

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ffstar 2017-05-08T13:44:05+00:00

Thanks ZiRoX for pointing out the issues.

Hopefully CLSW can give some proper response next time (or if can, at least for those after DQ) so that we can push this mapset forward together.

walaowey

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walaowey 2017-05-08T15:02:29+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Furthermore, CLSW has made some changes that he didn't point out - not even summarize.

btw, CLSW if u did made changes. please clarify it properly.
we need a proper response from u before this mapset can move any further.

@kagari , yer mmg dri awal lagi bn tolak request sbb diorg x nak deal ngan budak tu, mmg problem die kat situ je

CLSW

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CLSW 2017-05-09T07:28:56+00:00

There's no definition of 'proper' reason, it's just a difference of point of view on people because 'proper' is an abstract word.
You don't think it's not a proper reason, but I think it's proper reason.

01:03:442 (1,2,3) - While I kinda think the HDashes themselves are acceptable, the quick direction changes feel a bit too much for me. I'd go for normal flow instead for this pattern.

Didn't you poke this part without proper reason? I don't think 'a bit too much for me' is enough to be reasonable. And then don't expect to get 'proper' reason from me.

It's really unfair that modder is able to write suggestions without proper reason and mapper must write responses with proper reason? :thinking:

Please don't make a delay on ranking progress with non-unrankable issue and just opinions to show your power abuse of BN, it's really a bad attitude to mapper. You already know, the unrankable issues were already discussed and done iirc

But I'm a good guy, so I would like to make better reason for here

01:03:442 (1,2,3) - Vocal emphasis, that's what I wanted to talk about. The 1/4 movement with strong vocal fits well for gameplaying and feeling in my sight. They aren't really intense, and also they aren't really calm. It's a common ground of both side. Also if I use normal flow then it has no differentiated shape anymore compared with 01:12:367 (3,4,1) - (drum only, vertical sliders) 01:21:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (keyboard, piano only, pp stream), which is having a weaker sounds, so I think it's my finest one to make actual difference with the others and also good gameplaying.

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2017-05-09T19:10:45+00:00

CLSW wrote:
There's no definition of 'proper' reason, it's just a difference of point of view on people because 'proper' is an abstract word.
You don't think it's not a proper reason, but I think it's proper reason.

Unfortunately, you don't decide when a map is fit to be qualified or not, the nominator does. Therefore it is the nominator's definition of "proper" that we shall follow.

CLSW wrote:
Please don't make a delay on ranking progress with non-unrankable issue and just opinions to show your power abuse of BN, it's really a bad attitude to mapper. You already know, the unrankable issues were already discussed and done iirc

Maps are not necessarily fit to be qualified simply because they present no unrankable issues. BNs may exercise their right to nominate whatever they deem to be of "suitable quality for ranking" - if their personal quality standards happen to be above the bare minimum required for rankability, and they wish to help push your map towards this higher quality, that is fine. How you come to the conclusion that someone giving up their time to improve your map is an "abuse of power" is beyond me.

It looks like you managed to justify your reasons perfectly fine at the end of your last post - had you done this from the start the map could probably have been pushed forward much quicker than it has been and most of this could have been avoided.

Absolute Zero

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Absolute Zero 2017-05-09T21:50:54+00:00

Quick mod, as requested.

[Kagari's Rain]
00:23:759 (4,5,6) - Make this a 1/2 repeat slider instead to indicate that the voice has a held note.
00:36:860 (1) - Why is this a 1/1 slider? You appear to be following the voice, and this is the only beat you miss in the phrase on 00:37:050.
01:00:974 (7,1) - An underwhelming jump for the introduction to the kiai. It feels like the jump before it in a weaker pattern and I would at least increase spacing.
01:01:734 (3) - This works better as a 1/1 slider. I can't hear what the repeat slider is following strongly enough.
01:11:607 (6) - A 1/2 repeat slider would work nicely here because it also holds the main beat, like you've done before.

[Kagari's Overdose]
00:04:961 (1,2) - This jump is a little unexpectedly long. You might want to move (2) to x=480 or so.
00:36:291 (6,7,8) - I don't quite see the point of putting these hypers here. I would lower some distances except (8,1) and (6,7).
01:08:284 - Add a hitcircle here. If you're going to follow the other offbeat note, you might as well follow this one as well.
01:16:354 (1,2,3) - Weirdly low spacing here. Are you sure you don't want a kind of ">" shape (each hitcircle being a point on that ">")?
01:26:037 (2,3,1) - These jumps seem excessive for the ending. I would lower distancing a little bit, at least.

[Crystal's Captivation]
00:15:594 (1), 00:16:164 (1), and 00:16:734 (1) - Listening to this on 50% shows that these are 1/4, not 1/6. Preserving the patterns shouldn't be as much of a hassle if you also follow the comment below.
00:15:783 (2), 00:16:353 (2), and 00:16:923 (2) - I don't hear what these slider ends hit--there's total silence here. Please make these hitcircles instead.
00:17:303 (1) - I don't get what the end of this slider hits--it feels like you've put an end here without a particular sound, rather to fit the patterning.
00:23:759 (4,5) - A more minor thing--perhaps you just want to make this a 1/2 repeat slider instead to accent the voice's prolonged hit.
00:59:075 (2,1) - Honestly, I'd rather you follow the guidelines here and lower distance (it's wall-to-wall hyperdashing).
01:00:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This pattern is a HUGE difficulty spike compared to the stuff around it. 01:00:784 (1,2,3) feels really unnatural compared to the combo before it because it forces the player to go in the same direction sharply twice.
01:10:088 (1,2) - This antiflow is really strange to play coming from 01:09:708 (4,1), because I was expecting flow since it's no longer a strong beat it's leading to. Flip (2) around its tail.
01:15:594 (1,2,3,4) - A bit of inconsistency here-- 1/4 dashes at the part 01:03:442 (1,2,3), but you stick with a 1/2 beat here, despite it being a similar call-response line.
01:19:392 (1,2,3,4) - These patterns feel out of place, and the rhythms feel strange partly because 01:19:772 (2,3) is a vocal group, but you've grouped it so 01:19:392 (1,2) seems like the phrase.

CLSW

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CLSW 2017-05-10T03:15:24+00:00

There's a possibility that a single BN pretends himself to be a helper of map and inversely do a filibuster mod because he personally hates the mapper. I've seen some cases that some BNs tried like that so the map couldn't be ranked forever. Also me and ZiRoX are not friendly with each other, so I needed to have doubts on his action. To solve this, I need a personal talk with him seriously.

Let's just finish this shit over, get on the topic. The others will be welcomed for ingame PM or something more recommended.

00:15:594 (1) from 00:17:683 (2) - In the latest discussion we've tried to keep them as 1/6, take a look at it. Well ofc I'm not sure about it so need more opinions though
00:17:303 (1) - This one meant to be less inertia between 00:17:303 (1,2) - , if it's just a single circle it shall be really hard to catch after that antiflow HDash. This was made for better gameplaying so if you have concern please try to give me the actual common ground like 1/16 snap.
00:23:759 (4,5) - Due to the vocal pitch I wanna keep this
01:00:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - It doesn't like leftrightleftrightleftright, it has almost 1-way key input for white tick to next white tick so I don't think it has really huge difficulty spike
01:15:594 (1,2,3,4) - Chorus difference made an actual difference, it's completely different that onegai is 1/4 and dame is 1/2.

Rest of them were fixed, was really helpful mod. Thank you!

http://puu.sh/vLf03/50e25746ad.zip

Kagari

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Kagari 2017-05-10T08:34:47+00:00

- Magic Meat - wrote:
Quick mod, as requested.

[Kagari's Rain]
00:23:759 (4,5,6) - Make this a 1/2 repeat slider instead to indicate that the voice has a held note. - ~~nah i feel the previous one compared to 1/2 repeating slider~~ okay tried the 1/2 slider and it fits perfectly lol xP
00:36:860 (1) - Why is this a 1/1 slider? You appear to be following the voice, and this is the only beat you miss in the phrase on 00:37:050. - oh shit i missed that... fixed
01:00:974 (7,1) - An underwhelming jump for the introduction to the kiai. It feels like the jump before it in a weaker pattern and I would at least increase spacing. - ok
01:01:734 (3) - This works better as a 1/1 slider. I can't hear what the repeat slider is following strongly enough. - did you mean 1/2 slider?
even still, i prefer the repeat slider... it's more fitting to the vocal imo
01:11:607 (6) - A 1/2 repeat slider would work nicely here because it also holds the main beat, like you've done before. - i would like to but there's no distinctive sound at here 01:11:797 so it's kinda impossible to make it a repeat slider

[Kagari's Overdose]
00:04:961 (1,2) - This jump is a little unexpectedly long. You might want to move (2) to x=480 or so. - ok
00:36:291 (6,7,8) - I don't quite see the point of putting these hypers here. I would lower some distances except (8,1) and (6,7). - tbh i personally liked this hdash pattern a lot coz it fits the vocals perfectly imo... no change
01:08:284 - Add a hitcircle here. If you're going to follow the other offbeat note, you might as well follow this one as well. - ok
01:16:354 (1,2,3) - Weirdly low spacing here. Are you sure you don't want a kind of ">" shape (each hitcircle being a point on that ">")? - the long vocal here is much more fitting for a small flow movement (inb4 i make (1) and (2) as a 1/2 slider to make my point clear)
01:26:037 (2,3,1) - These jumps seem excessive for the ending. I would lower distancing a little bit, at least. - okay

additionally, i resnapped the notes to 1/6 here 01:00:215 (3,4,5,6) - in Rain diff to avoid being sniped for unsnapped notes lol

thanks for the mod!

http://puu.sh/vLrKT/1cb3b178ab.zip

walaowey

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walaowey 2017-05-10T16:02:35+00:00

Updated!

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2017-05-18T14:17:00+00:00

Kagari asked me to take a look at catch diffs

Rain

00:33:063 (3,4) - Changing this to a 1/1 slider and circle would follow the vocal better and provide a little variety from the monotonous 1/2 spam
00:44:265 (8,1) - 00:45:784 (8,1) - Even though (1) is a downbeat it's still weak compared to the previous vocal, so dash after hyper feels excessive. Compare this to the small distance you used for 00:47:303 (8,1) - which is the same idea, I would reduce these a little
00:56:037 (3,4,1) - Kinda weird antiflow dash into hyper considering the past two vocal sounds had normal flow. I'd either remove the antiflow, or at least reduce the distance between (3,4) so the cymbal (with hyper) is more emphasised
01:02:113 (4,1) - Really unexpected edge dash considering you didn't use any prior to this, think you probably meant for this to be a hyper based on 01:05:151 (4,1) - etc.
01:18:632 (4,5,6) - Personally looks a bit ugly to me, I'd give these equal spacing if you're not going to put a clear jump on (6)

Overdose

00:05:911 (4,5,6,7) - Try and make a tighter curve on this for better aesthetic, it looks a bit squashed and flat atm, (5) at x-288 and (6) at x-336 looks a bit nicer
00:44:265 (7,1) - 00:45:784 (7,1) - Sounds better as slider + circle to follow the vocal phrasing, currently you have a huge jump to the weak downbeat with no vocal and it feels really forced. Switching this will provide variety and a better match to the rhythm
01:01:101 (6,1) - Not a fan of this 1/6 hyper into antiflow, very snappy and really easy to miss right at the start of the kiai and fail. If you could make at least the start of the slider a bit more vertical it would be more lenient, and/or perhaps try reducing the hyper strength a bit
01:07:620 (3,4) - Quite unexpected high spacing going into hyper, I'd reduce this a little bit
01:08:284 (6,7) - Weird place to put a regular 1/4 dash considering you didn't have any elsewhere in the diff. Personally this sounds and plays better if you remove 01:08:284 (6) - and stick to a simpler 1/2 dash, keeping 1/4 on the clearer triplet at 01:08:569 (7,8,1) - for contrast

Captivation

00:11:607 (2,3,1) - Unexpectedly harsh double antiflow pattern, considering how calm the music on (3) is making that repeat slider face right instead feels better to play and gives (1) more emphasis in comparison
00:15:025 (1,2,3) - Not sure why you want to force an antiflowing hyper and dash here, the drums are really not strong at all compared to the surrounding music. The sound that's actually strong, the vocal on the head of (1) which is the same strength as 00:14:075 (1,4) - , doesn't even have a hyper. If you really want to emphasise the drum there, you don't need an antiflow kickback to do it. 00:15:215 (2,3) - could even be combined into the same slider considering how weak (3) is)
00:17:873 (1,1,2) - Since (1,2) are just weak kick drum sounds, the amount of movement here is really quite excessive, no? I don't really mind the antiflow as such, but 00:18:253 (1) - at x-320 would be more fitting in such a calm section
00:48:537 (6,7,8) - Doesn't make much sense to have 1/4 dash to strong vocal on (7), then a double hyper when (8) is a really weak note. By the logic of your previous patterns, (6,7) should be a 1/4 hyper and (7,8) should probably be walkable, or maybe a small dash - certainly not a hyper
01:01:037 (3,1) - As I said in Kagari's diff, this 1/6 hyper into antiflow is a real pain and so easy to overshoot. I get that this isn't supposed to be an easy diff, but this is just not a fair or expectable pattern at all. Please consider either reducing the hyper strength, making (1) initially vertical e.g. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8117209 or a combination of both
01:19:202 (3,1) - Given the level of antiflow usage prior to this, and the fact that the vocal here is considerably calmer than 01:17:683 (1,1) - for example, I feel this would be much better with normal flow with (1) being Ctrl+H-ed and moved to x-32
01:24:708 (1,2,1,2) - Intensity of this pattern is excessive considering the calmness of the music. You should be saving your intense spacings for the much stronger 01:25:468 (1,2,3,4,1) - rather than making them feel watered down by putting a spicy antiflow pattern right before it where it's unnecessary. You probably still want to keep it though, so try 01:24:708 (1) - at x-368 and 01:25:088 (1) - at x-128 for a bit more leniency and better emphasis
01:27:177 (2,3,4,5) - Personally would prefer more of a curve here, given the previous patterns' intensity this presents as a bit of a flowbreaker

Diffs are generally decent, just tried to tidy up some inconsistencies and weird stuff. I personally wouldn't have gone for such an antiflow-heavy approach on the top diff, but I guess it can work so I just tried to cut out the unexpectedly harsh parts.

Hope this helps, good luck! (:

Kagari

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Kagari 2017-05-20T16:54:26+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Kagari asked me to take a look at catch diffs

Rain
00:33:063 (3,4) - Changing this to a 1/1 slider and circle would follow the vocal better and provide a little variety from the monotonous 1/2 spam - i couldnt agree with this part but i did change the two sliders before the ones you've mentioned into 4 circles to justify the variety
00:44:265 (8,1) - 00:45:784 (8,1) - Even though (1) is a downbeat it's still weak compared to the previous vocal, so dash after hyper feels excessive. Compare this to the small distance you used for 00:47:303 (8,1) - which is the same idea, I would reduce these a little - i tried reduce the space but i still feel that the downbeat is still prominent no matter how much i changed the distance to the said downbeat... no change
00:56:037 (3,4,1) - Kinda weird antiflow dash into hyper considering the past two vocal sounds had normal flow. I'd either remove the antiflow, or at least reduce the distance between (3,4) so the cymbal (with hyper) is more emphasised - removed the antiflow and make it normal flow instead
01:02:113 (4,1) - Really unexpected edge dash considering you didn't use any prior to this, think you probably meant for this to be a hyper based on 01:05:151 (4,1) - etc. - oops missed this one lmao kill me pls
01:18:632 (4,5,6) - Personally looks a bit ugly to me, I'd give these equal spacing if you're not going to put a clear jump on (6) - sure

Overdose
00:05:911 (4,5,6,7) - Try and make a tighter curve on this for better aesthetic, it looks a bit squashed and flat atm, (5) at x-288 and (6) at x-336 looks a bit nicer - okay
00:44:265 (7,1) - 00:45:784 (7,1) - Sounds better as slider + circle to follow the vocal phrasing, currently you have a huge jump to the weak downbeat with no vocal and it feels really forced. Switching this will provide variety and a better match to the rhythm - i still like this pattern a lot even tho i tried change it a lot (the same reason as rain). no change
01:01:101 (6,1) - Not a fan of this 1/6 hyper into antiflow, very snappy and really easy to miss right at the start of the kiai and fail. If you could make at least the start of the slider a bit more vertical it would be more lenient, and/or perhaps try reducing the hyper strength a bit - reduced and made the slider a lil bit more vertical
01:07:620 (3,4) - Quite unexpected high spacing going into hyper, I'd reduce this a little bit - reduced
01:08:284 (6,7) - Weird place to put a regular 1/4 dash considering you didn't have any elsewhere in the diff. Personally this sounds and plays better if you remove 01:08:284 (6) - and stick to a simpler 1/2 dash, keeping 1/4 on the clearer triplet at 01:08:569 (7,8,1) - for contrast - auck fz

Hope this helps, good luck! (:

thx a lot for the mods jbabe <3

http://puu.sh/vW5ms/e73da2c81b.zip

CLSW

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CLSW 2017-05-22T22:00:48+00:00

01:19:202 (3,1) - It's still weak enough because 01:18:822 (1,2) - has HDash but 01:19:012 (2,3) - isn't, I think it's enough to make sense
01:24:708 (1,2,1,2) - 01:24:329 (1)'s length is actually longer than your suggestion. The jump distances on 01:24:329 (1) - , 01:24:708 (1,2) - , and 01:25:088 (1,2) - increased by 1 space in grid level 2, it means the longest distance has total 6 spaces and I don't think the 1/2 jump with 6 spaces isn't that long even it has 1/4 hyperantiflow. If its bpm was higher like 160~170 I'd consider but generally it's Overdose+ difficulty so players who play Overdose+ usually can take that inertia very well imo. Same reason goes with the atmosphere of the song, but reduced a bit

Rest of them were fixed, thank you!

http://puu.sh/vYsJf/e027dda9e9.zip

walaowey

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walaowey 2017-05-26T17:32:19+00:00

Updated!

Benita

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Benita 2017-06-13T23:53:53+00:00

requested by walaowey

Kagari's Rain

haha one thing i notice in both your diffs is that literally all patterns have like inverted patterns like this 00:20:531 (2,3,4) - if you understand what I mean xD Would be nice to see some variation and maybe change some sliders so they point outwards so it doesn't feel so repetitive but I guess it's your style so it's up to you lol
00:04:961 (1,2) - I don't think this is fitting as the first hyper of the map, kinda ruins the mood on 00:05:911 (4,1) -
00:30:405 (3,4,5,6) - More like a personal thing, but would be nice if the streams had a nicer curve by moving 5 like two grids or so to the left, same applies here 01:21:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - for 2 and 6 xd

Kagari's Poidose

Yeah, as I said in Rain, generally would be nice to see less inverted slider patterns etcetc
00:03:253 (5,1) - is hyper needed here, I get it's a downbeat and all but I don't feel like the beat stands out enough
00:21:575 - Could spice up the rhythm a bit by adding a note here as the violin or whatever it is has been mapped a lot later in the song
00:24:329 (5,6) - same sound as 00:27:367 (5,6,7,8) - so why not a stream
00:33:727 - same as before
00:36:480 (7,8) - and again, can add a stream
00:39:518 (6,7,8,9) - same as in rain, could try smoothing out the curve by moving 7 to the right, same here 01:12:556 (4,5,6,7) -
00:45:405 (5,6,7,1) - Why so many hypers in a row? Like this one is fine 00:43:886 (5,6,7,1) - cause it's just a double hyper but the music doesn't change to the second pattern so maybe remove at least one hyper

Crystal's Captivation

This difficulty feels a bit overdone to me, has a lot of strong antiflow that just doesn't fit the music imo. The song isn't this intense ): also i don't like the extended sliders.... 01:01:164 (1,2) - 01:01:734 (3,4) - like these can easily be 1/1 sliders instead, there's no beat on the slider tail and the antiflow is just not fitting.
00:11:607 (2,3) - why antiflow here? I'd rather remove a repeat and put a single note with a dash to it
00:15:025 (1) - same here, also nc isn't needed
00:15:594 (1,1,1,2) - make these 1/4 and this 00:17:303 (1) - 3/4 slider to catch the vocals, this weird snapping doesn't fit at all
00:17:873 (1,1) - I expected this to be a dash looking at the previous patterns, also you can remove nc on the second note there
00:59:455 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - this is like 4 antiflow patterns in a row, try reducing the amount of antiflow
01:03:442 (1,2) - the fact that there's no beat on the slider ends and it's this antiflowy doesn't fit very well
01:17:683 (1,1,1,2,1,2,3,1) - wwwwww all the antiflow
01:24:329 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - saaameee

My main issue here is crystal's diff being a bit overdone with antiflow but let's see after he applies my mod

Kagari

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Kagari 2017-06-14T02:55:53+00:00

Benny- wrote:
requested by walaowey - calvin mah boiii <3

Kagari's Rain
haha one thing i notice in both your diffs is that literally all patterns have like inverted patterns like this 00:20:531 (2,3,4) - if you understand what I mean xD Would be nice to see some variation and maybe change some sliders so they point outwards so it doesn't feel so repetitive but I guess it's your style so it's up to you lol - i get what you mean but when I mapped this song i kinda felt that the inverted pattern works well with some of the sections. i do try experimenting them before by making it outwards like you've suggested but it feels kinda odd so i stick to the previous pattern in the end
00:04:961 (1,2) - I don't think this is fitting as the first hyper of the map, kinda ruins the mood on 00:05:911 (4,1) - - removed the hyper
00:30:405 (3,4,5,6) - More like a personal thing, but would be nice if the streams had a nicer curve by moving 5 like two grids or so to the left, same applies here 01:21:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - for 2 and 6 xd - ay moved them by a grid
Kagari's Poidose
Yeah, as I said in Rain, generally would be nice to see less inverted slider patterns etcetc - same as what i've mention in rain
00:03:253 (5,1) - is hyper needed here, I get it's a downbeat and all but I don't feel like the beat stands out enough - i'm trying to emphasize the vocal here with the hyper
00:21:575 - Could spice up the rhythm a bit by adding a note here as the violin or whatever it is has been mapped a lot later in the song - ay
00:24:329 (5,6) - same sound as 00:27:367 (5,6,7,8) - so why not a stream - trying to focus on the vocals on 5 and 6 there and emphasize abit, so it's kinda weird to have the part stream instead imo.
00:33:727 - same as before - ay
00:36:480 (7,8) - and again, can add a stream - same as above, trying to emphasize the vocals more imo
00:39:518 (6,7,8,9) - same as in rain, could try smoothing out the curve by moving 7 to the right, same here 01:12:556 (4,5,6,7) - - okey~
00:45:405 (5,6,7,1) - Why so many hypers in a row? Like this one is fine 00:43:886 (5,6,7,1) - cause it's just a double hyper but the music doesn't change to the second pattern so maybe remove at least one hyper - i kinda want to emphasize the vocals here by making a row of hyperdashes (also i can feel that this 00:45:405 (5,6) - has a lil bit more emphasis than this 00:43:886 (5,6) - in terms of vocal)

thanks for the mod benny~ <3
requalifying no poi, one step at a time

CLSW

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CLSW 2017-06-14T18:16:27+00:00

00:11:987 (3) - Drum sounds are pretty strong compared with the others imo, so I think antiflow works well for here
01:03:442 (1,2) - Vocal says "Onegai" with 1/4 and the pitch increases at 'gai' which is antiflow on 01:03:632 (2) , so this is why I think it's justified
01:24:329 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Decreased every antiflow sliders' distances a bit
I've tried to change some extended sliders like 01:01:164 (1,2) - to straight flow, but it was too boring with just one-way movement. It's completely not my favorite and I really need more accent movements on every sliders' tail so I really really wanna keep them but just only one part I've fixed into straight flow is 01:04:202 (1,2,3,4) - , this has lower tense compared with the other kiai parts

Others were fixed, thanks for checking!

http://puu.sh/wk1v7/570c85023a.zip

walaowey

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walaowey 2017-06-15T07:29:25+00:00

Updated!

-Sh1n1-

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-Sh1n1- 2017-06-15T12:47:06+00:00

I'm here because Benny- #Let'sRankMoreCtbMaps2k17

Minato Yukina's Overdose

Before nominate this, add video to your diff please >.<
00:17:683 - 01:00:215 - they have a purpose or they are unnecessary? (I mean, timing points)
00:26:797 (2,3) - vs 00:38:949 (3,4) - you can keep hyperdash or remove but keep consistency, up to you bro.
00:30:215 - 00:30:310 - 00:30:405 - I just want to point out if you skip such prominent vocal in 1/4 on purpose or you didn't notice? I took a look to many of your replies and you are always saying that you don't want to change 01:03:442 (1,2) - cause you are following vocals, so the question is: why not follow vocal here too? is very noticeable at playing cause there isn't enough movement at this part.
01:18:442 - and 01:18:632 - are stronger than 01:18:822 - but there is only hyper dash between 01:18:632 (2,1) -
01:21:954 (4,5) - will be more interesting if you add hyper dash here too, such part is intense enough to support it imo.
01:25:468 (1,2,3,4) - I like this tbh, but I think that it shouldn't be a mirrored pattern for the following reason: the sound of 01:25:848 - is not the same as 01:26:417 -, for me 01:26:037 (3,4) - should be a hyper dash between such notes.
01:27:746 (5,6,7) - is the ending of the song and intensity decreased a lot, such vocal doesn't deserve hyper dash tbh, it's overenphasized, in the other hand 01:28:316 - is the strongest sound of this section, the hyper dash should be between 01:28:126 (7,1) - only.

That's all, ctb and taiko is ready to go imo, best of lucks guys, benny will re-check so I'll leave it to her, cya.

CLSW

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CLSW 2017-06-15T16:11:03+00:00

Added HDash on 01:27:177 (2) - and everything has been removed, still I think this one is good enough with HDash since its vocal pitch deserves

Others were fixed! Thanks a lot!

http://puu.sh/wkTnL/c6c1cb4137.zip

@walaowey don't forget to add 'Minato Yukina' on tags

walaowey

952 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

walaowey 2017-06-15T23:23:59+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:
Minato Yukina's Overdose
Before nominate this, add video to your diff please >.<

added video, thanks for the check xD

added Minato Yukina into tags

All updated!

Last edited by walaowey 2017-06-16T04:18:46+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

walaowey

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Topic Starter

walaowey 2017-06-15T23:25:00+00:00

sorry for double posting, internet lagging lol

ffstar

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Joined October 2011

ffstar 2017-06-16T02:43:18+00:00

hype!

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2017-06-16T13:41:26+00:00

recheck!

Crystal's Captivation

01:03:442 (1,2,3) - I still disagree with the antiflow here, would be much better without the antiflow
01:05:531 (1,2) - this distance is way too strong compared to other hypers
01:18:063 (1,1,2) - this looks really awful in gameplay, I understand the intention but to me the hyper between 1 and 2 isn't needed and is overemphasised because 1 is a stronger beat and emphasising both with a hyper makes them equally emphasised which doesn't make sense when 1 is stronger.

call me back again

CLSW

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CLSW 2017-06-16T15:58:37+00:00

http://puu.sh/wlPfI/d6d8939d35.zip

I don't like these changes but I don't want to let kagari suffered with this mapset not being ranked, so let's just finish it

all done

walaowey

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Topic Starter

walaowey 2017-06-17T08:28:44+00:00

~~On vacation now..will update it when i reach home~~
UPDATED!

Kagari

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Kagari 2017-06-18T18:51:32+00:00

ffstar0716 wrote:
hype!

CLSW

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CLSW 2017-06-22T16:02:14+00:00

http://puu.sh/wrs0c/6c392457e2.zip fixed some more with benny-'s suggestion

Benita

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Benita 2017-06-23T23:35:35+00:00

I'm satisfied with the catch diffs now so let's try revive this, shall we?

Yuii-

2,502 posts

Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2017-06-24T00:02:14+00:00

Guys, why is the video offset set to 485 when it should be at 405?

Also, Scarlet: 00:17:683 - you shouldn't really put such a strong beat on a tail, that's not how we map insane/extra difficulties. Passive vs active sounds

(I'm not going to mod the rest of the map cause we have complete different views on mapping, but you spamming circles that much is over-climatic most of the times)

Scavenger: your hitsounding is super loud l o l
ffstar: not sure if you intended to not silence the sliderslides at the very beginning of the map, but I would recommend you to do that... also to lower the volume during the intro, it shouldn't be the same as the kiai
walao: add a hitsound on 00:00:405 - for every difficulty from you

[]

Not popping because these issues aren't /that/ big, but the standard difficulties need a bit more of work. Just a couple of mods would fix that

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-06-24T07:01:52+00:00

@Yuii-
Kinda, most of my rhythm choices was from 2 years ago so I didn't really put much thought this time. It seems pretty fine at first since most of the circles I mapped follows the vocal closely.
Fixed the loud beat you've mentioned, also reduced some jumps, changed some patterns and removed redundant triples.
(Except for Kiai onward, seems pretty fine there)

Reduced AR9 to AR8.8 because AR9 seems a little too fast for a 155bpm map.

Code

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Source:ご注文はうさぎですか？？
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Tolong update thanks

gary00737

593 posts

Joined February 2015

gary00737 2017-06-24T12:29:48+00:00

heeeeeeellllllllllllllllo

short mod

Sc4's Normal
01:06:101 (5,6,7) - http://i.imgur.com/Ccu6JLu.png i think it will better
01:08:379 (4) - this should be clickable

ffstar's Hard
00:06:291 (1) - ctrl+g for flow?
00:15:594 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - i think it all can triple

[ -Scarlet- ]'s Extra
00:10:278 (5,6) - i think the flow not good
00:30:215 (6,7,8) - i think you can ctrl+g for Voices

that it

nice song

gogogo rank~

Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

Sc4v4ng3r 2017-06-24T13:59:02+00:00

@Yuii : I had like a shitty headset back then when I mapped the GD so I set the overall volume high xD Went over everything and reduced each section accordingly.

@gary00737 : I'm not changing both of these, because for the first one, the rhythm is first following the 'group' singing together(as also done in the previous rhythm, 01:01:164 (1,2,3,4,5) - ), then the strong snares at 01:06:480 (6,7) - (I don't count chino singing alone here because it is different from the group singing together), and for the second one, it is already clickable lol

Also did some refining on my own, nothing too major though.
Thanks for the suggestions!

Update

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Source:ご注文はうさぎですか？？
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[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-06-24T16:33:46+00:00

@gary00737
I think the flow is fine for the first one, the Ctrl+G seems good yea

Calvin, when update help me ctrl+g 00:30:215 (6,7,8)

ffstar

513 posts

Joined October 2011

ffstar 2017-06-24T19:13:15+00:00

@Yuii-
lower the volume of intro part, but not silencing the sliderslides since now the volume is very low

@gary00737
00:06:291 (1) - I think my flow is better
00:15:594 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Not necessary to change this, also to keep it easier

thx guys

updated

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walaowey

952 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

walaowey 2017-06-25T08:02:19+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
Guys, why is the video offset set to 485 when it should be at 405? oh yeah, you're right, fixed every diff with videos

walao: add a hitsound on 00:00:405 - for every difficulty from you
added hitsound
[]

Not popping because these issues aren't /that/ big, but the standard difficulties need a bit more of work. Just a couple of mods would fix that

Thanks xd

[ -Scarlet- ] wrote:
@gary00737
I think the flow is fine for the first one, the Ctrl+G seems good yea

Calvin, when update help me ctrl+g 00:30:215 (6,7,8)

alright sure, fixed.

Updated Everything

CLSW

osu! Alumni

2,182 posts

Joined October 2010

CLSW 2017-06-25T11:48:55+00:00

holy fuck I'm sorry that I missed a hitsound for 00:30:215 (5,6,7) -

http://puu.sh/wtNW9/2deaedb20c.zip Don't forget to update with this!!

Yohanes

1,283 posts

Joined February 2014

Yohanes 2017-06-26T08:01:31+00:00

Calvin told me to mod std diff, but I'm quite lazy so I'll just mod scarlet's diff lol

Scarlet
- 00:08:949 (2,3,1) - based on the music, 3-1 should have larger spacing compared to 2-3 to give proper emphasis
- 00:10:278 (5,6,7,8,1) - the difference in angle between jumps are what making this part not that comfortable to play
- 00:13:696 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - the variation of angle & spacing on this zig zag makes it uncomfortable and unnatural to play. Also, I think it havent given proper emphasis on each stronger notes
- 00:21:291 (6) - Ctrl+g this seems more sensible to emphasize the strong vocal? (to make the spacing at least like 00:20:721 (4,5) -)
- 00:21:860 (1,2,3) - try to ctrl+g this rhythm, it works better imo http://puu.sh/wuvVh/d37154c1ff.jpg
- Why 00:24:708 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - is mapped in similar way like 00:34:582 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -. While the second has disctinct drum, the only stand out part on the first one is the vocal, and I don't think such a big spacing on them works for the map as a whole. Since that will blur the line between what section that needs to be having big jump and normaly mapped ones
- 00:26:797 (4) - flow towards & during next stream is very awkward to be honest. SImply ctrl+g this slider will solve the problem
- 00:36:480 (3,4) - move them near the center to balance the jump placement http://puu.sh/wuwr2/18086918b1.jpg
- 00:41:987 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I think you know this already, but this section doesn't really have the flow to it
- 00:59:455 (1,2) - both tail and (2) are the strong sound. So it would benefit much if you put jump on it
- 01:09:708 (8,1) - their spacing si too small imo, it doesn't emphasize the vocal enough
Also, some of your pattern really relies on straight flow, which isn't that comfortable to play 01:18:632 (2,3,4,5,6) -, 01:24:329 (2,3,1) -. If you could tweak those a bit, it could create more awesome playing experience
Try to tweak some of your pattern by yourself, since I noticed that you said that this map is made 2 years ago.

Insane
Alright, I think you need to paying more attention to your jump placement & what sound in the song that need to be emphasized. I see you put nearly the same amount of spacing on places that totally different
00:35:341 (1,2,3,4) - & 00:23:379 (2,3,4,5,6) - or 00:20:151 (1,2,3) - Ok they're not exactly similar. But it will still make the hard part feels less "hard" if that makes sense. The map itself is fine actually, just the spacing on jumps that makes it looks that it doesn't really follow the song properly.

Good Luck!

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2017-06-26T12:08:57+00:00

Hmm, looks like I have to rework the whole difficulty <.< .
The current version was once qualified before so I thought it's okay as it is. Therefore, I didn't want to make lots of changes that might hinders the ranking process (again).

~~Will update the map real soon! Thanks Yohanes~~

Fix everything mentioned by Yohanes. Hopefully it's fine now

Tolong update again thanks

Code

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: No Poi!.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 60489
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.299999

[Metadata]
Title:No Poi!
TitleUnicode:ノーポイッ！
Artist:Petit Rabbit's
ArtistUnicode:Petit Rabbit's
Creator:walaowey
Version:[ -Scarlet- ]'s Extra
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walaowey

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walaowey 2017-06-27T13:58:39+00:00

Yohanes wrote:
Calvin told me to mod std diff, but I'm quite lazy so I'll just mod scarlet's diff lol

Insane
Alright, I think you need to paying more attention to your jump placement & what sound in the song that need to be emphasized. I see you put nearly the same amount of spacing on places that totally different
00:35:341 (1,2,3,4) - & 00:23:379 (2,3,4,5,6) - or 00:20:151 (1,2,3) - Ok they're not exactly similar. But it will still make the hard part feels less "hard" if that makes sense. The map itself is fine actually, just the spacing on jumps that makes it looks that it doesn't really follow the song properly.i've tried to fix those spacing as much as possible and i toned down some jumps before kiai, to make kiai a little more 'hard' now xD

Good Luck!

thanks man xd

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Affirmation

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Affirmation 2017-07-06T21:42:53+00:00

okay as you requested, for my kudosu,

[Easy]
00:24:708 (1,2) - flow looks little bit hard, How about this flow?
00:59:835 (4) - this is the only one 1/2 beats, looks not so good imo, 00:59:835 - looks not so strong beat. my suggestoin
01:01:164 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - comparing with 00:00:405 (1,2,3,4) - , you didn't expressed vocal at all. I suggest you follow vocal as you did at others, 01:13:316 (1,2,3,4,5) - is , too
01:18:632 - vocal is in here, not 01:18:442 - , 01:18:442 - has no sounds, you don't need to add beat on here.

[Insane]
00:00:405 (1,2,3,4) - well, imo. this antijump doesn't fit with music.
00:33:822 (1,2,3) - this wide angle looks weird, you didn't use wide angle well, so flow can be weird,
00:43:696 (3,4) - you reduced DS suddenly, isn't it can be weird for playing?
00:53:759 (2,3,4,5,6) - I prefer hexagon to pentagon. this has 5 beats,
well. I saw just triangle patterns, I suggest you use various polygons, too simple, hexagon and triangle is...

GL!

Rakuen

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Rakuen 2017-07-21T10:36:28+00:00

nub XD you asked for it

Legend

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

Easy

00:06:291 (1) - Different angle with 00:07:999 (3) - *triggered*
00:15:594 (1,2) - Make a mirror-ed slider? *triggered*
00:28:506 (2,3) - Last time QAT disqualified my normal becoz of sharply curved sliders like this, and this is Easy, so they might DQ you too mayyyn XD
00:57:367 (4) - Maybe could rotate this clockwise a bit more along with 00:58:126 (1) - cuz its too close to 00:56:417 (3) -
01:02:303 (3) - Avoid overlapping with 01:03:442 (5) - especially on slider tail not good in reading for new players
01:17:683 (3,4) - Did you miss any finishes here?
01:23:189 (2,3,4) - Waw make 01:24:708 (4) - to the shape of 01:23:189 (2) - please, dont like overlaps

Sc4's Normal

00:02:113 (3) - Heavy vocal, maybe whistle here too
00:04:202 - ^ for a pattern

ffstar's Hard

Use custom hitsounds to remove slider noise?
00:02:493 (3) - Think you can put this below (2) and (4) so it makes like a square pattern starting 00:02:113 - , instead of overlapping
00:08:379 (2) - Maybe can blanket this? since its a new pattern already
00:09:329 (1) - Waw jump too far for Hard man, even 00:06:291 (1) - no jumps uwu
00:12:367 (1) - ^ just these 2
00:38:759 (3) - Clap?
00:39:518 (5) - ^
00:49:392 - ^ Where those claps after this asdjklasjflkads *triggered*
01:01:164 (1,1,1,1) - THE POI HYPE HYPE *not mod*
01:04:202 (1,1,1,1) - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
01:17:683 (1) - Remove NC and NC on 01:18:063 - since its like a combo

Insane

00:17:683 (2) - waw 3/4 too sudden too many 3/4s pls delete waw wow wew asdkajkasd hahaha. I mean there's only 1 in the whole diff, why not make it 0
00:52:050 - Is there supposed to be like a finish here? idk check the hitsounds for other parts too

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nub pls use AR9 lol idk actually, nothing to mod here

More lolis and pois pls

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ZiRoX wrote:

CLSW wrote:

CLSW wrote:

- Magic Meat - wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

Benny- wrote:

-Sh1n1- wrote:

ffstar0716 wrote:

Yuii- wrote:

[ -Scarlet- ] wrote:

Yohanes wrote:

Easy

Sc4's Normal

ffstar's Hard

Insane

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