Kind of, chipset is probably the wrong word to use there. Oh well.
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IppE
Kinda hard to play AAA games on a southbridge, so there's that. But yes, GPU or iGPU would have been correct. cba to edit
dNextGen
Seriously?dNextGen wrote:
yfw i got higher score than people using i7 / GTX 980
or perhaps i'm just seeing things
I never thought that I'd see an i3 doing that.
A lot of games don't really advantage of multiple cores. That i3 has extremely good single core performance. Although you won't be able to do anything else while your playing that game.
Here's my next building, for LAN'ing, streaming, and mobile server.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($252.43 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.00)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card ($190.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 380T Mini ITX Tower Case ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $994.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-26 12:48 EDT-0400
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($252.43 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.00)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card ($190.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 380T Mini ITX Tower Case ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $994.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-26 12:48 EDT-0400
dNextGen
i had 2 seagate external hard drives, both of them died in less than 1 year, never again
maybe cheap out on the case and go with 2nd 290 or 390 instead
maybe cheap out on the case and go with 2nd 290 or 390 instead
so what should i do regarding that matter thenZelda wrote:
Holy crap that afterburner overlay is ugly
yes, i think i won't be upgrading that for a long time (1-2 years)a1l2d3r4e5d6 wrote:
Seriously?
I never thought that I'd see an i3 doing that.
It's pretty impressive for something of that calibre. Although I don't think an i3 would benefit me as much, seeing as I run a lot of applications in one. It would, however, still be better than my laptop's AMD E2 apu.dNextGen wrote:
yes, i think i won't be upgrading that for a long time (1-2 years)a1l2d3r4e5d6 wrote:
Seriously?
I never thought that I'd see an i3 doing that.
Remove it, it's literally useless information unless you're troubleshooting something. And it gives your eyes cancer.dNextGen wrote:
so what should i do regarding that matter then
I just bought my MSI R9 380 4G Card, it also went on sale today $179 (with MIR) it's a pretty good deal imo if you looking for a cheap upgrade.
If you live in the USA Tiger direct is selling 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for only $36 max is 5 per person right now. Literally a steal.
what the fuckA Medic wrote:
If you live in the USA Tiger direct is selling 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for only $36 max is 5 per person right now. Literally a steal.
dNextGen
just because it's dorito scented doesnt make it a better value
ah yes the don't fall for the 3.5 meme meme
)dNextGen wrote:
that case is ugly af
dNextGen wrote:
i don't want to be an ass but man that case is ugly af
the rest is great though.
xxjesus1412fanx wrote:
dNextGen wrote:
that case is ugly af
It looked much nicer in videos. In person I would have to agree.
But it has a handle doh.
I like the case :/dNextGen wrote:
i don't want to be an ass but man that case is ugly af
the rest is great though.
Looks like a pigeon cage
Intel Xeon is cheap? I need to stop living in the 3rd world.
Intel Xeon is cheap? I need to stop living in the 3rd world.
dNextGen
I'm thinking about purchasing a GTX970 this Friday (If it is affordable)
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
at this point, id wait for first generation 14nm pascal architecture cards which come out next year if you can wait. im not going to believe the hype that it's going to be '10x faster' than current cards but i definitely do believe it will be inherently compatible with dx12 by physical design whereas 28nm maxwell compatibility is only going to be simulated through drivers at a performance loss.
I swear, it was the biggest scandal for both amd and nvidia to claim dx12 compliance on this generation of gpu's. they should have put a * next to it on the boxes.
otherwise, go for it. 970 is the best card for the price right now. The generation coming to a close has led to a lot of shitty rebranding and marketing tricks so a lot of cards would be a mistake to buy at this point but the 970 is not one of them.
i recommend MSI for the best build quality and a card that will likely last a long time. My friend ran 2 660's in an SLI setup at a high stable clock and twice MSI and EVGA. the EVGA card had to be RMA'd twice over the years, once for a failed fan controller and once because it straight up died, but the MSI kept chugging along until he retired it for an upgrade quite recently. I've also had nothing but good experiences with MSI. The fact that their cards typically cost more than other manufacturers' versions is totally reflected in the quality they deliver.
Gigabyte is a close second in terms of build quality. I've used them almost all my life and they generally score very high reviews for a reason.
Asus is overrated IMO but they are factually good. If you're an Asus fan I guess you can't go wrong with them.. I personally don't have much to say about them one way or the other.
EVGA is hit or miss as hell they've produced some really quality cards but some serious failures too. Check the reviews to make sure it's not one of their dead fish lines before you buy it. Their RMA department is really good, for what that's worth. There's so many stories of people sending in their old cards years later and getting something newer and far better back, typically the card that directly succeeded the one they got sent, like a 770 for a 670 etc.
PNY is not an option unless you want it to be either DOA or fried in 6 months, those are the cards they send to best buy and shit.. Avoid it. Garbage. They are the cheapest for a reason.
if you get a box that has no manufacturer name on it that means it's directly from nvidia. prepare for disappointment because reference card build quality is basically meant for being benchmarked and boxed again. I thought they only sent these to review sites and youtubers but ive seen them in stores as well occasionally. You'd think they would be some sort of holy grail of quality until you remember that most of nvidia's capital is invested in R&D/marketing. Nvidia almost exclusively just produces the chip. The manufacturers above all get the same chip, yes, but everything else varies wildly between them and how they put it together/what materials go into the rest of the build.
I swear, it was the biggest scandal for both amd and nvidia to claim dx12 compliance on this generation of gpu's. they should have put a * next to it on the boxes.
otherwise, go for it. 970 is the best card for the price right now. The generation coming to a close has led to a lot of shitty rebranding and marketing tricks so a lot of cards would be a mistake to buy at this point but the 970 is not one of them.
i recommend MSI for the best build quality and a card that will likely last a long time. My friend ran 2 660's in an SLI setup at a high stable clock and twice MSI and EVGA. the EVGA card had to be RMA'd twice over the years, once for a failed fan controller and once because it straight up died, but the MSI kept chugging along until he retired it for an upgrade quite recently. I've also had nothing but good experiences with MSI. The fact that their cards typically cost more than other manufacturers' versions is totally reflected in the quality they deliver.
Gigabyte is a close second in terms of build quality. I've used them almost all my life and they generally score very high reviews for a reason.
Asus is overrated IMO but they are factually good. If you're an Asus fan I guess you can't go wrong with them.. I personally don't have much to say about them one way or the other.
EVGA is hit or miss as hell they've produced some really quality cards but some serious failures too. Check the reviews to make sure it's not one of their dead fish lines before you buy it. Their RMA department is really good, for what that's worth. There's so many stories of people sending in their old cards years later and getting something newer and far better back, typically the card that directly succeeded the one they got sent, like a 770 for a 670 etc.
PNY is not an option unless you want it to be either DOA or fried in 6 months, those are the cards they send to best buy and shit.. Avoid it. Garbage. They are the cheapest for a reason.
if you get a box that has no manufacturer name on it that means it's directly from nvidia. prepare for disappointment because reference card build quality is basically meant for being benchmarked and boxed again. I thought they only sent these to review sites and youtubers but ive seen them in stores as well occasionally. You'd think they would be some sort of holy grail of quality until you remember that most of nvidia's capital is invested in R&D/marketing. Nvidia almost exclusively just produces the chip. The manufacturers above all get the same chip, yes, but everything else varies wildly between them and how they put it together/what materials go into the rest of the build.
Thanks for such a great reply.xxjesus1412fanx wrote:
at this point, id wait for first generation 14nm pascal architecture cards which come out next year if you can wait. im not going to believe the hype that it's going to be '10x faster' than current cards but i definitely do believe it will be inherently compatible with dx12 by physical design whereas 28nm maxwell compatibility is only going to be simulated through drivers at a performance loss.
I swear, it was the biggest scandal for both amd and nvidia to claim dx12 compliance on this generation of gpu's. they should have put a * next to it on the boxes.
otherwise, go for it. 970 is the best card for the price right now. The generation coming to a close has led to a lot of shitty rebranding and marketing tricks so a lot of cards would be a mistake to buy at this point but the 970 is not one of them.
i recommend MSI for the best build quality and a card that will likely last a long time. My friend ran 2 660's in an SLI setup at a high stable clock and twice MSI and EVGA. the EVGA card had to be RMA'd twice over the years, once for a failed fan controller and once because it straight up died, but the MSI kept chugging along until he retired it for an upgrade quite recently. I've also had nothing but good experiences with MSI. The fact that their cards typically cost more than other manufacturers' versions is totally reflected in the quality they deliver.
Gigabyte is a close second in terms of build quality. I've used them almost all my life and they generally score very high reviews for a reason.
Asus is overrated IMO but they are factually good. If you're an Asus fan I guess you can't go wrong with them.. I personally don't have much to say about them one way or the other.
EVGA is hit or miss as hell they've produced some really quality cards but some serious failures too. Check the reviews to make sure it's not one of their dead fish lines before you buy it. Their RMA department is really good, for what that's worth. There's so many stories of people sending in their old cards years later and getting something newer and far better back, typically the card that directly succeeded the one they got sent, like a 770 for a 670 etc.
PNY is not an option unless you want it to be either DOA or fried in 6 months, those are the cards they send to best buy and shit.. Avoid it. Garbage. They are the cheapest for a reason.
if you get a box that has no manufacturer name on it that means it's directly from nvidia. prepare for disappointment because reference card build quality is basically meant for being benchmarked and boxed again. I thought they only sent these to review sites and youtubers but ive seen them in stores as well occasionally. You'd think they would be some sort of holy grail of quality until you remember that most of nvidia's capital is invested in R&D/marketing. Nvidia almost exclusively just produces the chip. The manufacturers above all get the same chip, yes, but everything else varies wildly between them and how they put it together/what materials go into the rest of the build.
I'm probably going for MSI's "tiger OC" as it fits my build.
As you mentioned, I should probably wait for the next generation. But I don't think I will be needing anything better than a 970 for the next 3-4 years. IF it goes up on sale this friday, I'll go for it
I don't know where the graphics are going to go to next, i just know that even mid end dx11 cards from 2010 can still run modern games on low with playable frames.. And those that they can't can still be made playable by reducing resolution, and the 970 is considered a high-end card, so?.. a decent investment. I'd just worry about when microsoft's next API [dx13?] comes out because that's going to be when you'll need a replacement and no amount of tinkering with settings or resolution can save you, but that's so far in the future at least 5 years probably more like 6-7.
Optimization gets worse and worse though, and vram might become an issue sooner than expected even for such resolutions. Aside from that, the only real issues i can see popping up is due to dx12 maxwell driver implementation much later from now. I feel like when this card is no longer sufficient it's going to be because of compatibility issues not because it doesn't have enough horsepower unless you're one of those people that needs to crank all the settings to max and buy every new AAA game that comes out, in which case this card is only going to satisfy you for a year or 2.
so all that considered...
3-4 years is a very, very conservative estimate and assumes that everything that can go wrong [optimization reaching a fever pitch of bad, compatibility problems, driver implementation constraints] will go wrong.
MSI's 3 year warranty on graphics card is a confident statement in their quality, and of course that's because they know that in all likelihood you won't need it in that time frame, but you might end up with it dying after the warranty but before you need a new one, so if an extended warranty is an option, it might be worth it if you game quite a lot. I'm not sure if they're doing that though, I don't remember that option ever existing as I never looked for one.
Optimization gets worse and worse though, and vram might become an issue sooner than expected even for such resolutions. Aside from that, the only real issues i can see popping up is due to dx12 maxwell driver implementation much later from now. I feel like when this card is no longer sufficient it's going to be because of compatibility issues not because it doesn't have enough horsepower unless you're one of those people that needs to crank all the settings to max and buy every new AAA game that comes out, in which case this card is only going to satisfy you for a year or 2.
so all that considered...
3-4 years is a very, very conservative estimate and assumes that everything that can go wrong [optimization reaching a fever pitch of bad, compatibility problems, driver implementation constraints] will go wrong.
MSI's 3 year warranty on graphics card is a confident statement in their quality, and of course that's because they know that in all likelihood you won't need it in that time frame, but you might end up with it dying after the warranty but before you need a new one, so if an extended warranty is an option, it might be worth it if you game quite a lot. I'm not sure if they're doing that though, I don't remember that option ever existing as I never looked for one.
Welp.
Also 970 is a decent graphics meme as long as you don't use more than 3.5GB VRAM.
Also 970 is a decent graphics meme as long as you don't use more than 3.5GB VRAM.
I hear the 380-380X are also compelling value against the 970 as well
Also, I want recommendations for a microcontroller for use with an arcade controller build. I will build it with more than 10 switches/buttons so one with lots of sockets will help.
Also, I want recommendations for a microcontroller for use with an arcade controller build. I will build it with more than 10 switches/buttons so one with lots of sockets will help.
Lol I bought a 500gb EVO 850 a month ago.Zelda wrote:
Welp.
Also 970 is a decent graphics meme as long as you don't use more than 3.5GB VRAM.
Got me there!dNextGen wrote:
maybe it's because you are on eastern europe lel
dNextGen
not really i guess, actually i dont see the 380/X as an attractive card at all, the 7970 seems like a better buy even though it's a 2011 cardThe Gambler wrote:
I hear the 380-380X are also compelling value against the 970 as well
Also, I want recommendations for a microcontroller for use with an arcade controller build. I will build it with more than 10 switches/buttons so one with lots of sockets will help.
the gap is kinda of huge if you compare it to the 970/390
just grab the 290 and be done with it like me famerikG wrote:
I'm thinking about purchasing a GTX970 this Friday (If it is affordable)
Any thoughts?
tbh the performance gap between the 290 and 970 isn't that huge either, i was thinking about grabbing the 970 months ago, but someone suddenly someone shows up and tries to sell me his 290 tri-x for $210, the 970 is like $170-$180 higher in my place.
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The card I mentioned just went up on sale. The decision has been made :3dNextGen wrote:
just grab the 290 and be done with it like me fam
tbh the performance gap between the 290 and 970 isn't that huge either, i was thinking about grabbing the 970 months ago, but someone suddenly someone shows up and tries to sell me his 290 tri-x for $210, the 970 is like $170-$180 higher in my place.
IppE
The whole 300 series is kind of a joke considering nothing is new aside from the Fiji chips.dNextGen wrote:
not really i guess, actually i dont see the 380/X as an attractive card at all, the 7970 seems like a better buy even though it's a 2011 card
In comparison the 380X and the 7970 are fairly similar, so unless you're actually using more than 3GB of vram the 7970 is actually a better bang for your buck.
would you really recommend a 4 year old card though?
no doubt its still beastly but it's also dx11.1
no doubt its still beastly but it's also dx11.1
it's obviously the better performance:dollar ratio thendNextGen wrote:
just grab the 290 and be done with it like me fam
tbh the performance gap between the 290 and 970 isn't that huge either, i was thinking about grabbing the 970 months ago, but someone suddenly someone shows up and tries to sell me his 290 tri-x for $210, the 970 is like $170-$180 higher in my place.
dNextGen
power wise yes but looking into the future compatibility issues galore, 11.1 doesnt mean its going to be compatible with 12, i learned the hard way when i fell into the 10.1 meme