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Ace Timing
why would i bus my partner at LyLo tho
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

why would i bus my partner at LyLo tho
It was either you or him that would get lynched, for sure. Either of you bussing the other would be the best idea as then the other one gets towncred.
Ace Timing
No. I could just push someone hard and get the win right there.
Ace Timing
Its not like I'm incapable of strong-arming a mislynch.
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

Its not like I'm incapable of strong-arming a mislynch.
Considering you were close to getting lynched D2, and then the lynch quickly changed to Hika, it was natural to think you were in danger of being lynched.
MBomb
And that means you knew you weren't being townread a lot.
Ace Timing
you don't need to be townread a lot to strong-arm a mislynch, you just have to make everyone think it was someone else. Considering you were scumreading Zexion, all I had to do was push him hard, have you follow, and have slaini hammer for the win. But I didn't. I voted slaini. As scum, that's not logical move.
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

you don't need to be townread a lot to strong-arm a mislynch, you just have to make everyone think it was someone else. Considering you were scumreading Zexion, all I had to do was push him hard, have you follow, and have slaini hammer for the win. But I didn't. I voted slaini. As scum, that's not logical move.
It is considering that, considering the only scumteam in my mind was you and Zexion, you voting Zexion would trigger so many warnings to me, and taking that chance would be dangerous.
Zexion
So Ace, why are you not voting MB?

Also I'm wary of MB over-explaining everything.
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

So Ace, why are you not voting MB?

Also I'm wary of MB over-explaining everything.
Tbh I'm aware it seems to make a lot more sense for me to be scum here, hence why I'm trying to point out things that you might've missed.
Zexion
why did you townread Slaini so much
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

why did you townread Slaini so much
For the reasons I stated in the beginning of the game. I got my townread a bit too quickly, as well as the fact that I saw everyone pushing him in D1 as "Oh, chances are that someone pushing is scum trying to go for a mislynch, the lack of any counter is worrying".
Ace Timing

Zexion wrote:

So Ace, why are you not voting MB?
I was town reading Magic Bomb until recently, I am currently re-thinking that read. I get overly-paranoid in LyLo.
Zexion
@MB: What about scum bussing their partner? Why are you so sure it wasn't that?

@Ace: Do you really believe I *could* be scum? Sigh...
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

@MB: What about scum bussing their partner? Why are you so sure it wasn't that?
Honestly, that thought didn't cross my mind, but I had doubts that scum would bus their partner on D1.
Zexion
I think Ace should get here.
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

I think Ace should get here.
Just wondering, are you leaning towards voting either of us in particular? (Don't answer this if you think it'll change the way we act)
Zexion
You already know the answer, don't you?
Zexion
I mean, I kinda agree with Ace, I see no point on start bussing your partner on LyLo. I mean a hammer would be totally okay, but not a starting a wagon on him.
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

I mean, I kinda agree with Ace, I see no point on start bussing your partner on LyLo. I mean a hammer would be totally okay, but not a starting a wagon on him.
Yeah I expected this, but if you think about it from a scum perspective, it makes sense considering that the natural reaction would be to think you'll probably get lynched D3/D4 after the Hika townflip.
MBomb
Also the fact that the only person they could've got a lynch on other than Slaini/Ace is you, and both Slaini and Ace had been showing townreads on you throughout the game, so it would be suspicious.
Ace Timing
Sorry I haven't been here lately, my mother was oppressing me.

From reading between Slaini and MB, I don't think the reads they had on each other were genuine. The reasons for MB townreading Slaini seemed shallow, starting with "I don't think scum would ask me to move my vote".

Slaini on the other hand, never explains his town read on MB, but MB is at the top of his townreads.

Fake reads are overwhelmingly indicative of scumminess, and based on the fact that the read in question is on a flipped scum, one can reasonably infer that MB is Slaini's partner.

Vote: MB
Ace Timing

Ace Timing wrote:

Fake reads are overwhelmingly indicative of scumminess
This refers to the fact that disingenuous behaviour has generally no town motivation. Sounded weird when I typed it and only now do I have an alternate phrasing.
MBomb
It wasn't a fakeread, I just got faith in people far too easily. Even though I know he was scum now, I still think my reasons for townreading him were legitimate.
Zexion
I regret saying "I'm terible at this" last day. Because now I have to choose -again-. *sigh*.
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

I regret saying "I'm terible at this" last day. Because now I have to choose -again-. *sigh*.
Any more questions before you make a decision, or would you rather wait for me and Ace's discussion to go on a bit longer?
Zexion
No one else has something to say? Tomorrow I'll take my decision.
MBomb
I take it from Ace's lack of posts that he has nothing else to say, and I can't think of anything.
Ace Timing
you are correct, I have nothing more to add, unless you would like to continue?
Zexion
I have two questions for both of you.

Asume you're town. Why would scum kill Sakura?

Asume you're scum. Why would you NK Sakura?
MBomb
I think scum may've killed Sakura based on how she came up with the NL plan, and thought that might make us town read her a hell of a lot more.

However, if I was scum myself, I would've more likely not killed her, but if I did, it'd be because I missed the suspicion on her coming at the end of D2.
Ace Timing

Zexion wrote:

Asume you're town. Why would scum kill Sakura?

Fear, Sakura was on to Slaini, he probably felt like she would get him lynched and wanted to NK her out of fear (this also kind of incriminates me, she was voting me too.)

Asume you're scum. Why would you NK Sakura?

I would go along with Slaini since it's suboptimal to me should he be lynched
Italics ftw
Ace Timing
@Mod: Zexion is now in prod range.
Topic Starter
Nyquill
Automatic prods happen at 48 Hours.

To prod a player, bold Prod: [Player Name]


But zexion has been prodded.
Zexion
Sorry. I realized I'm just delaying this and future games so I'll vote now.

I guess I don't have to give fancy explanations since this ends the game.

I reallly didn't want to have to chose two times.

So.

This is it.

To be honestly there's little that could have changed my choice. I was pretty sure.

Vote: Magic Bomb
Zexion
Also, that prod was scary.
MBomb
Welp, gg Slaini and Zexion scumteam
MBomb
i mean slaini and ace lmao
MBomb
I'm honestly confused though, Zexion, how did it make any sense for me to be scum? There'd be no reason for me to literally say my scum partner is town in my second post, it'd be the stupidest thing ever...
Ace Timing
Topic Starter
Nyquill
Vote Count:
  1. 2 - Magic Bomb - Ace Timing, Zexion
  2. 1 Ace Timing - Magic Bomb -
  3. 0 Zexion
- Magic Bomb - has been lynched!


Well quite frankly i'm not sure what happened there.

Oh well.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

- Magic Bomb - (Mutsuhiko Izumi), Vanilla Townie has been lynched day 5.

Subsequently, Ace Timing slapped Zexion with vengeance samples. Zexion called upon his milky ice bears but they were powerless against sped up and re-pitched downloaded synth melodies. Thus, zexion was slain.

Zexion (S-C-U), Vanilla Townie, has been ENDGAMED.

Now with the foundation of bemani all dead, Ace Timing called upon his old high school buddy NAOKI MAEDA and made SIRIUS CS.

Ace Timing (U1), Mafia 1-Shot Strong-willed Strongman, has survived and won!
Topic Starter
Nyquill
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/QKR6ta5XNDD dead chat

mafia can post mafia chat if they want to
Navizel
why did sLaiNi have to be scum goddammit
Navizel
I even yolo voted Slaini because I'm sure Ace is scum

gg anyway
Sakura

Navizel wrote:

why did sLaiNi have to be scum goddammit
My D1 reads OP.
Hika
nice Hika wagon faggots
2-shot mafia DV??? what the fuck serious
Zexion
Sorry people. I just couldn't get my image of MB town after that comment when I hammered Slaini. Plus I would never imagined that Ace did actually bus his partner pretty hard on LyLo 1.
Zexion

Hika wrote:

nice Hika wagon
sLaiNi
Really good job there Ace :3

Zexion wrote:

Hika wrote:

nice Hika wagon faggots
It is not dramatic enough without an insult.
sLaiNi
BTW me wishing Sakura a good night (or whatever it was) had absolutely nothing to do with me being scum. As I said, that's just me and I always do it like this (and I guess, I always will)
GuyInFreezer

Hika wrote:

nice Hika wagon faggots
2-shot mafia DV??? what the fuck serious
Since when DV was a town-only role?
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