Sigh,
I am VT and tried to keep up the possibility of pulling the NK onto me. I don't see where we get now.
I am VT and tried to keep up the possibility of pulling the NK onto me. I don't see where we get now.
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In D2, my read didn't really change much, and in fact the lack of content for the most part made him more suspicous to me.
Today, both the VT claim (Thinking of how unlikely it is that there are 3 VTs), along with PoE (As I stated earlier) have made me pretty sure of my conclusion. Only reason I'm not voting yet is because even when I'm 100% sure, I want to hear discussions before I vote, so that in the case that I'm wrong, scum don't just quickhammer.
Vote: Ace
Either way, it's kinda obivous why Ace would choose to keep you alive, considering you said "I still believe the scumteam is Slaini+MB, so let's see.", and either way both you and Navi were conf town, due to neither of you hammering Ace.
Slaini and Ace was one of my least expected scumteams, but it's the only one that makes sense now.
Oh also I'm pretty pissed I was scumreading a town member for the whole game basically unwavering, but meh, and same with townreading a scum.
Vote: Ace Timing
It's a 1v1 now.
So to keep a list:
Ace: BP
MB: VT
sLaiNi: VT
Zexion: VT
Navizel: Something that has it's ability used alread
Actually I would feel like scum is more likely to claim VT but this doesn't fit with my scumreads.
Ace: BP
MB: VT
sLaiNi: VT
Zexion: VT
Navizel: Something that has it's ability used alread
Actually I would feel like scum is more likely to claim VT but this doesn't fit with my scumreads.
MBomb
keksLaiNi wrote:
Sigh,
I am VT and tried to keep up the possibility of pulling the NK onto me. I don't see where we get now.
@MB could you sum up your zexion case?
MBomb
To me, his D1 play seemed scummy as anything, jumping on the Slaini wagon and then mostly lurking, a lot of the times only posting to respond to my posts, once I started having growing suspicion of him. For more reasons, you can read through my ISO, I posted a lot about my reasons.Ace Timing wrote:
@MB could you sum up your zexion case?
In D2, my read didn't really change much, and in fact the lack of content for the most part made him more suspicous to me.
Today, both the VT claim (Thinking of how unlikely it is that there are 3 VTs), along with PoE (As I stated earlier) have made me pretty sure of my conclusion. Only reason I'm not voting yet is because even when I'm 100% sure, I want to hear discussions before I vote, so that in the case that I'm wrong, scum don't just quickhammer.
MBomb
days have passed, and your thoughts may have changed. such is why I inquire multiple times.
I think that Navizel and Magic Bomb are town. From PoE, Zexion and Slaini must be scum.
get slaini now
@MB: I still don't know what you want to discuss if you still think my vote on Slaini on D1 was a "jump", since I replied about it many many times. I stilll think he's scum now.
This just seems like a lazy excuse to be honest.Ace Timing wrote:
days have passed, and your thoughts may have changed. such is why I inquire multiple times.
So are we agreeing on Slaini or what?Navizel wrote:
get slaini now
To be honest it just seems more and more like you are going for an easy lynch without bringing up reasons for it. Also that
just makes me feel very uncomfortable as it sounded like "Hey mate, you go vote slaini, then I'll do, too". I think my reads just changed a fair bit.Zexion wrote:
So are we agreeing on Slaini or what?Navizel wrote:
get slaini now
MBomb
Tell me what can I do to keep this game from going down, we are at freaking LyLo.
I wont accept MB falling for whoever is creating this push, either Zexion and Ace or Zexion and Navi, what are your thoughts MB?
looks like it's going to end up like this, one way or another.
Vote: Slaini
Vote: Slaini
MBomb
I've stated already that Zexion and Ace are my scumreads. I'm pretty sure Navi is town, I can't remember exactly why I originally thought that, but since then, their argument with you on D2 just seemed like two townies arguing. My only concern is with this post, and tbh this just seems like how Navizel plays most of the time:sLaiNi wrote:
I wont accept MB falling for whoever is creating this push, either Zexion and Ace or Zexion and Navi, what are your thoughts MB?
Navizel wrote:
get slaini now
maybe I'm just pissed. Idk anymore.
I don't see your reasons to make this hasty move there, only scum would be able to do this without concerns. Do you notice what I am talking about?Ace Timing wrote:
looks like it's going to end up like this, one way or another.
Vote: Slaini
I notice you scumpainting from desperation o/
MBomb
No, that was not what I was talking about, rather he got it:Ace Timing wrote:
I notice you scumpainting from desperation o/
You put me up for Quickhammering and, as MB stated correctly, I did not get hammered, so I am 100% sure now about you.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
If there's gonna be no more discussion (assuming not due to the lack of posts), I'll vote Ace (seeing as either Ace or Slaini must be scum, otherwise I would've assumed scum would've quickhammered by now).
Vote: Ace
interesting observation.
mm yolo
Vote: Slaini
Vote: Slaini
pretty sure it's 3 votes to lynch. seeing Zexion hasn't voted yet..
You guys are seriously letting me decide...? oh dear, I'm terrible at this.
Right so... there was about a 30 minute difference between Navi and MB's posts. I don't believe MB missed Navi's vote, not at all. Scum MB would have obviously quickhammered if Slaini was town (no reason to make this longer than it should be) so either MB is town, or Slaini is scum with MB and he didn't want to hammer his partner.
That last bit seems rather bad IMO, if I was scum and I hammered my partner that would have given me a lot of towncred, but... considering MB has been almost perpetually scumreading me and Ace, it wouldn't have made much sense to hammer Slaini and keep with the town attitude. ("Hey I just flipped my read and I got scum!")
...and to be honest, by reading Slaini's iso I have this idea. Slaini's interaction with MB has been a perpetual townread, almost no questioning, likely of newbie scum not wanting to interact at all with his partner to avoid trowing suspicion. Then this post:
p/4553249/
I still believe the scumteam is Slaini+MB, so let's see. Honestly this game has been pretty much bad for town in every phase because we have been unable to pinpoint scum, and my perpetual suspicion of Sakura didn't help at all. Her no-lynch strategy on D3 was pretty solid anyways.
If I'm right and I get NK'd.... please read everyone interactions again, specially for that last post. If I'm not... gg.
Vote: Slaini
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That last bit seems rather bad IMO, if I was scum and I hammered my partner that would have given me a lot of towncred, but... considering MB has been almost perpetually scumreading me and Ace, it wouldn't have made much sense to hammer Slaini and keep with the town attitude. ("Hey I just flipped my read and I got scum!")
...and to be honest, by reading Slaini's iso I have this idea. Slaini's interaction with MB has been a perpetual townread, almost no questioning, likely of newbie scum not wanting to interact at all with his partner to avoid trowing suspicion. Then this post:
Now this freaking MB post:sLaiNi wrote:
Actually it is rather a gut feeling. Your play gives me strong townvibes. Also I don't see a reason for scum to exclude possible misslynches withhin their first 2 posts on D1.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Just wondering, why are you protecting me? Is there something in particular that's giving you a town read on me, or is it just because I'm townreading you?
p/4553249/
...would I ever dare to say my partner is town right on my first post in D1? Damn, this makes my whole theory fall apart. MB did actively defend Slaini after I "jumped" on him, which I believe is only MB's idea, so if MB is actually scum this is some pretty good scumplay.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Slaini is town.
Unvote
I still believe the scumteam is Slaini+MB, so let's see. Honestly this game has been pretty much bad for town in every phase because we have been unable to pinpoint scum, and my perpetual suspicion of Sakura didn't help at all. Her no-lynch strategy on D3 was pretty solid anyways.
If I'm right and I get NK'd.... please read everyone interactions again, specially for that last post. If I'm not... gg.
Vote: Slaini
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I guess we wait for Nyquill now
MBomb
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The town has decided to lynch sLaiNi.
sLaiNi panicked, and quickly made a new song.
"Look! Healing Gabba!".
Unfortunately those were kind of polarizing genres.
Right as town was about to deal the final blow, sLaiNi disappeared. Poof.
sLaiNi (L.E.D), Mafia Godfather, has been lynched Day 4.
- 3 sLaiNi Ace Timing, Navize, Zexion
- 2 Ace Timing sLaiNi, - Magic Bomb -
- 0 - Magic Bomb -
- 0 Navizel
- 0 Zexion
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The town has decided to lynch sLaiNi.
sLaiNi panicked, and quickly made a new song.
"Look! Healing Gabba!".
Unfortunately those were kind of polarizing genres.
Right as town was about to deal the final blow, sLaiNi disappeared. Poof.
sLaiNi (L.E.D), Mafia Godfather, has been lynched Day 4.
Topic Starter
It is now Night 4. Actions must be sent within 24 hours of this post. If I receive all actions before then, I might end the night early.
Topic Starter
"Oh hey, its that new kid! What's he doing on a stake?"
"I don't know, probably angered the wrong people."
Navizel (DJ TOTTO), Neutral Survivor 1-Shot Coward, has been killed night 4.
Navizel has lost.
It is now Day 5. With 3 Alive, it takes 2 to lynch.
Deadline is October 28th, 3AM EST.
"I don't know, probably angered the wrong people."
Navizel (DJ TOTTO), Neutral Survivor 1-Shot Coward, has been killed night 4.
Navizel has lost.
It is now Day 5. With 3 Alive, it takes 2 to lynch.
Deadline is October 28th, 3AM EST.
Also if I was scum and I just had to quickhammer to win then why would I bother writing a huge post when I could have just voted and won.
MBomb
Yeah I agree, even in the case that Slaini was town but we somehow survived, I would probably townread you now because why the hell would scum do such a long post when they can quickhammer and win.Zexion wrote:
Also if I was scum and I just had to quickhammer to win then why would I bother writing a huge post when I could have just voted and won.
Either way, it's kinda obivous why Ace would choose to keep you alive, considering you said "I still believe the scumteam is Slaini+MB, so let's see.", and either way both you and Navi were conf town, due to neither of you hammering Ace.
Slaini and Ace was one of my least expected scumteams, but it's the only one that makes sense now.
Oh also I'm pretty pissed I was scumreading a town member for the whole game basically unwavering, but meh, and same with townreading a scum.
Vote: Ace Timing
It's a 1v1 now.
did not expect a survivor in this game
why would i bus my partner at LyLo tho
MBomb
No. I could just push someone hard and get the win right there.
Its not like I'm incapable of strong-arming a mislynch.
MBomb
you don't need to be townread a lot to strong-arm a mislynch, you just have to make everyone think it was someone else. Considering you were scumreading Zexion, all I had to do was push him hard, have you follow, and have slaini hammer for the win. But I didn't. I voted slaini. As scum, that's not logical move.
MBomb
It is considering that, considering the only scumteam in my mind was you and Zexion, you voting Zexion would trigger so many warnings to me, and taking that chance would be dangerous.Ace Timing wrote:
you don't need to be townread a lot to strong-arm a mislynch, you just have to make everyone think it was someone else. Considering you were scumreading Zexion, all I had to do was push him hard, have you follow, and have slaini hammer for the win. But I didn't. I voted slaini. As scum, that's not logical move.
So Ace, why are you not voting MB?
Also I'm wary of MB over-explaining everything.
Also I'm wary of MB over-explaining everything.
MBomb
MBomb
For the reasons I stated in the beginning of the game. I got my townread a bit too quickly, as well as the fact that I saw everyone pushing him in D1 as "Oh, chances are that someone pushing is scum trying to go for a mislynch, the lack of any counter is worrying".Zexion wrote:
why did you townread Slaini so much
I was town reading Magic Bomb until recently, I am currently re-thinking that read. I get overly-paranoid in LyLo.Zexion wrote:
So Ace, why are you not voting MB?
@MB: What about scum bussing their partner? Why are you so sure it wasn't that?
@Ace: Do you really believe I *could* be scum? Sigh...
@Ace: Do you really believe I *could* be scum? Sigh...
MBomb
MBomb
I mean, I kinda agree with Ace, I see no point on start bussing your partner on LyLo. I mean a hammer would be totally okay, but not a starting a wagon on him.
MBomb
Yeah I expected this, but if you think about it from a scum perspective, it makes sense considering that the natural reaction would be to think you'll probably get lynched D3/D4 after the Hika townflip.Zexion wrote:
I mean, I kinda agree with Ace, I see no point on start bussing your partner on LyLo. I mean a hammer would be totally okay, but not a starting a wagon on him.
MBomb
Sorry I haven't been here lately, my mother was oppressing me.
From reading between Slaini and MB, I don't think the reads they had on each other were genuine. The reasons for MB townreading Slaini seemed shallow, starting with "I don't think scum would ask me to move my vote".
Slaini on the other hand, never explains his town read on MB, but MB is at the top of his townreads.
Fake reads are overwhelmingly indicative of scumminess, and based on the fact that the read in question is on a flipped scum, one can reasonably infer that MB is Slaini's partner.
Vote: MB
From reading between Slaini and MB, I don't think the reads they had on each other were genuine. The reasons for MB townreading Slaini seemed shallow, starting with "I don't think scum would ask me to move my vote".
Slaini on the other hand, never explains his town read on MB, but MB is at the top of his townreads.
Fake reads are overwhelmingly indicative of scumminess, and based on the fact that the read in question is on a flipped scum, one can reasonably infer that MB is Slaini's partner.
Vote: MB
This refers to the fact that disingenuous behaviour has generally no town motivation. Sounded weird when I typed it and only now do I have an alternate phrasing.Ace Timing wrote:
Fake reads are overwhelmingly indicative of scumminess
MBomb
I regret saying "I'm terible at this" last day. Because now I have to choose -again-. *sigh*.
MBomb
No one else has something to say? Tomorrow I'll take my decision.
MBomb
you are correct, I have nothing more to add, unless you would like to continue?
I have two questions for both of you.
Asume you're town. Why would scum kill Sakura?
Asume you're scum. Why would you NK Sakura?
Asume you're town. Why would scum kill Sakura?
Asume you're scum. Why would you NK Sakura?
MBomb
I think scum may've killed Sakura based on how she came up with the NL plan, and thought that might make us town read her a hell of a lot more.
However, if I was scum myself, I would've more likely not killed her, but if I did, it'd be because I missed the suspicion on her coming at the end of D2.
However, if I was scum myself, I would've more likely not killed her, but if I did, it'd be because I missed the suspicion on her coming at the end of D2.
Italics ftwZexion wrote:
Asume you're town. Why would scum kill Sakura?
Fear, Sakura was on to Slaini, he probably felt like she would get him lynched and wanted to NK her out of fear (this also kind of incriminates me, she was voting me too.)
Asume you're scum. Why would you NK Sakura?
I would go along with Slaini since it's suboptimal to me should he be lynched
@Mod: Zexion is now in prod range.
Topic Starter
Automatic prods happen at 48 Hours.
To prod a player, bold Prod: [Player Name]
But zexion has been prodded.
To prod a player, bold Prod: [Player Name]
But zexion has been prodded.
Sorry. I realized I'm just delaying this and future games so I'll vote now.
I guess I don't have to give fancy explanations since this ends the game.
I reallly didn't want to have to chose two times.
So.
This is it.
To be honestly there's little that could have changed my choice. I was pretty sure.
Vote: Magic Bomb
I guess I don't have to give fancy explanations since this ends the game.
I reallly didn't want to have to chose two times.
So.
This is it.
To be honestly there's little that could have changed my choice. I was pretty sure.
Vote: Magic Bomb
MBomb
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Well quite frankly i'm not sure what happened there.
Oh well.
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- Magic Bomb - (Mutsuhiko Izumi), Vanilla Townie has been lynched day 5.
Subsequently, Ace Timing slapped Zexion with vengeance samples. Zexion called upon his milky ice bears but they were powerless against sped up and re-pitched downloaded synth melodies. Thus, zexion was slain.
Zexion (S-C-U), Vanilla Townie, has been ENDGAMED.
Now with the foundation of bemani all dead, Ace Timing called upon his old high school buddy NAOKI MAEDA and made SIRIUS CS.
Ace Timing (U1), Mafia 1-Shot Strong-willed Strongman, has survived and won!
- 2 - Magic Bomb - Ace Timing, Zexion
- 1 Ace Timing - Magic Bomb -
- 0 Zexion
Well quite frankly i'm not sure what happened there.
Oh well.
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- Magic Bomb - (Mutsuhiko Izumi), Vanilla Townie has been lynched day 5.
Subsequently, Ace Timing slapped Zexion with vengeance samples. Zexion called upon his milky ice bears but they were powerless against sped up and re-pitched downloaded synth melodies. Thus, zexion was slain.
Zexion (S-C-U), Vanilla Townie, has been ENDGAMED.
Now with the foundation of bemani all dead, Ace Timing called upon his old high school buddy NAOKI MAEDA and made SIRIUS CS.
Ace Timing (U1), Mafia 1-Shot Strong-willed Strongman, has survived and won!
Topic Starter
why did sLaiNi have to be scum goddammit
I even yolo voted Slaini because I'm sure Ace is scum
gg anyway
gg anyway
My D1 reads OP.Navizel wrote:
why did sLaiNi have to be scum goddammit
nice Hika wagon faggots
2-shot mafia DV??? what the fuck serious
2-shot mafia DV??? what the fuck serious
Sorry people. I just couldn't get my image of MB town after that comment when I hammered Slaini. Plus I would never imagined that Ace did actually bus his partner pretty hard on LyLo 1.
Really good job there Ace :3
It is not dramatic enough without an insult.Zexion wrote:
Hika wrote:
nice Hika wagon faggots
BTW me wishing Sakura a good night (or whatever it was) had absolutely nothing to do with me being scum. As I said, that's just me and I always do it like this (and I guess, I always will)
Since when DV was a town-only role?Hika wrote:
nice Hika wagon faggots
2-shot mafia DV??? what the fuck serious