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Ryo-kun - Caramel Heaven

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Mafumafu
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2015年10月30日 at 23:12:22

Artist: Ryo-kun
Title: Caramel Heaven
Tags: megpoid gumi vocaloid Last Note. [_Abhor_] Abhor appleeaterx Sieg
BPM: 194
Filesize: 2368kb
Play Time: 01:13
Difficulties Available:
  1. apple's Hard (3.4 stars, 193 notes)
  2. Collab Light Hard (2.77 stars, 186 notes)
  3. Insane (4.52 stars, 271 notes)
  4. Normal (1.75 stars, 96 notes)
  5. Sieg's Normal (2 stars, 109 notes)
Download: Ryo-kun - Caramel Heaven
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Regraz's Toilet Booming Series #0
瓜子的炸厕所系列 #0


18th.
Genre Suggestion: Novelty; Japanese

Mapset:
Easy - me
Normal - Sieg
Collab Light Hard - me and [_Abhor_]
Hard - appleeaterx
Insane - me

A male version caramel heaven!
Last edited by Mafumafu , edited 30 times in total.
Mint
1,611 posts
Joined February 2013
Mint
this voice makes me go waaaah >//<
irc
16:59 Regraz: Thanks for the comment :D
17:00 Regraz: Yeah :D
17:00 appleeaterx: 00:28:999 (2,3) - this bugged me tho. (3) is also a clap + vocal... feels so underemphasized and the manual stack makes it even more confusing x_x pattern like 00:35:184 (2,3,4) - makes more sense imo
17:01 appleeaterx: 00:39:669 (7) - since most of the notes overlap in the stream + spacing decrease, add NC? for readability
17:01 Regraz: Then how about exchange position of 2 and 3?
17:01 Regraz: Yeah, there should be an NC.
17:02 appleeaterx: idk was thinking about something like 00:14:617 (3,4,5,6,1) -
17:02 appleeaterx: up to you tho
17:02 Regraz: Hmm..
17:03 appleeaterx: 00:50:494 (3) - more than half of the reverse arrow is hidden by slider body, hope you can reposition ;w;
17:03 Regraz: I should think more.
17:03 appleeaterx: that should be it, totally love how the kiai is mapped <3
17:04 Regraz: Yeah certainly. Hiding reverse arrow is not nice.
17:04 Regraz: Thanks for the opinions :D Mind posting at the forum, so I can have further reference. <3
17:05 appleeaterx: oh okay ill post c:
Last edited by Mint , edited 1 time in total.
Mafumafu
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Mafumafu
waaaah!
Thanks apple for the star :D

Updated apple's diff
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Sieg
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Sieg
Cool
Mafumafu
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Sieg wrote:

Cool
Thank you very much Sieg!
Kyouren
5,657 posts
Joined October 2012
Kyouren
Caramell Heaven~ >///<
Waiting amatsuki version!

Good luck~ ♡
Spaghetti
1,118 posts
Joined August 2014
Spaghetti
Holy fuck dude a male version?

You struck oil gj
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Lobelia
做完啦 >:(
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Mafumafu
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Mafumafu
all updated
Sieg
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Sieg
http://puu.sh/kzixe/64040dfe8c.osu
Mafumafu
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Sieg wrote:

http://puu.sh/kzixe/64040dfe8c.osu
cool
updated
Mafumafu
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added another diff.
liaoxingyao
864 posts
Joined November 2013
liaoxingyao
[Collab Hard]
00:58:225 (4) - 没等距0分
[Insane]
00:32:555 (1) - 没重叠好吧
00:34:720 (5) - 可以移远点其实
摸不动啊gg
good luck!
Starfy
1,046 posts
Joined November 2012
Starfy
Yo

[Normal]
-00:27:607 (1) - Stacking seems not that appropriate because of the slightly hidden repeat arrow
-00:33:793 (3,4) - Blanket~
-00:50:958 (3) - Add a finish on the slider head
-01:00:854 (3) - Add a clap on the slider tail
-01:02:092 (1) - Add a clap on the slider head
-01:01:628 (4) - Add a clap on the slider tail
-01:02:092 (1) - Add a finish on the slider head and add a clap on the slider tail
-01:02:865 (2,3,4) - Missed hitsoundddd

[Sieg's Normal]
-00:14:617 (4,1) - Blanket
-00:30:081 (1,2) - Blanket
-01:01:628 (5,1,2,3) - Missed hitsound?

[Collab Light Hard]
-00:37:195 (4,1) - Blanket

真的沒有甚麼可以mod, 非常齊整的圖
What you need is not a mod, but a BN
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho
抱歉來晚的mod

  • Black is Personal comments

    Bold Black is Highly recommended

    Red is Unrankable

[General]
  1. 問題都出在Normal難度了

[Normal]
  1. 檢查aimod的數個問題

  2. 我覺得用AR4和OD3也沒問題

  3. 00:26:215 (3,1) - 這個overlap可能有點危險，因為1是折返

[Sieg's Normal]
  1. This diff have many place are not suitable for song, let's fix it.

  2. 00:50:803 (3) - Try it?
    SPOILER

    00:53:277 (3,4,5) - I think use this pattern will better than now
    SPOILER

    00:56:988 (5) - Move to 00:56:834 - ?

    01:00:700 (3,4) - Use a same pattern from 00:50:803 (3) -

    01:01:628 (5) - Change to 1/2 slider

    01:02:865 (2,3,4) - Use a same way to fix it, above 00:53:277 (3,4,5) -

    Then, 01:04:411 (1) - maybe need change to 1/1 slider and move to 01:04:720 -

    Also, 01:05:958 (3) - try it?
    SPOILER

    01:06:885 (1) - try it?
    SPOILER

[Insane]
  1. 00:09:514 (5,6,7,8) - 個人覺得這樣放可能會更好，就是把5678順時針90度然後ctrl+H
    SPOILER

    00:25:906 (6,7,8) - 我覺得這個三連放到00:25:133 (1) - 的位置會比較好，這樣00:25:597 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - 可以做到銳角flow

    00:37:504 (1) - 這個放到x320 y360附近的位置，可以避免與00:36:885 (3) - 遮擋，因為原本的位置在HD mod下根本看不到。
幾個難度的質量都很好，就是sieg的我覺得有很多地方要改改，Good Luck~
Mafumafu
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All updated
@Kencho: first mod: I like the way the triplets are placed so I'd keep mine.

Other mods are all fixed!
Thank you!
Sieg
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Sieg
@StarForYou applied all, thank~
@Kencho changed few notes here and there, thanku for the mod~


http://puu.sh/kXW37/55ab37f5b0.osu
Milan-
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Joined August 2011
Milan-
-u should use a drum-hitnormal7 mixed with hitnormal so it actually gives feedback. If you dont know how to do that uh i usually use this one http://puu.sh/l2ONB/0a0ffcfe75.wav so see urself
-your forth combo color is too dark compared to the other 3 xd a lighter one would be nice

normal
-00:42:452 (1,3) - overlap looks ki9nda ugly tbhg xd
-00:46:782 (3,1,2) - triangle > better
-00:54:050 (5,6) - you could merge these into just 1 slider since there's another normal, a simplified rhythm is nice

sieg
-00:12:452 (6) - ending it at 00:12:607 - makes more sense cuz the crash and cuz there's nothing noticiable where it ends now, prob need to change rhythm for gameplay tho like 00:17:092 (5,1) - works
-would be cool if do the same with 00:13:380 (2) - but it doesnt matter in tihs case ig uess
-00:53:896 (4,5) - sounds better as this imo http://puu.sh/l2Nj2/cb1bcebf19.jpg
-00:57:607 (2) - not a big fan of ignoring 00:58:380 - , mapping it fits everything so i dont see why not. And you could fix the rhythm up moving 00:59:153 (3) - to 00:58:999 - as a 1/1 slider or whatever, which makes the most sense to me
-A lot of rhythms sound pretty bad cuz you ignoring the strong beats for no real reason. The song is offbeat a lot so why do you keep using upbeat?. stuff like these 01:00:700 (3,4) - 01:01:938 (1) - 01:05:803 - 01:06:886 (1) - sounds really bad when you could've mapped them easily.

light hard
-aimod
-xd

apple
-uh i feel like you could've made it a bit more harder, like light hard is pretty much as hard as this just with bit lower spacing. 01:06:731 (5,1) - this is like the only "high" spaced pattern xd

insane
-00:26:215 (1,2) - 1.0x plz
-01:02:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - just 1 triples makes more sense with the rest of the map i think. like similar patterns are just 1/2
-01:08:122 (6) - clap, prob other diffs too
-00:33:174 (3,4,5) - hs


so you either reduce the amount of triples/streams in insane or ask apple to add a bit more triples. I'd prefer if you reduce these streams tbh also having triples every measure against a hard that has only 3 triples in the whole map isnt good imo
So ya, try to make that gap a bit less noticiable. Then call me back :p

(also i prefer the original bg, without this flash effect :(( looks more neat, in addition to that, i think you took a not w/s picture and resize it to 16:9... plz i can see the pixels everywhere ;w;
alsoaslo you could export a osz with this mp3 http://puu.sh/l2Qh5/96724601a9.mp3 and add it to the description, so people that dont like male vocals, can have yuikonnu lmao. like https://osu.ppy.sh/b/637625 nameless link, k thxs.)
Mafumafu
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Milan- wrote:

-u should use a drum-hitnormal7 mixed with hitnormal so it actually gives feedback. If you dont know how to do that uh i usually use this one http://puu.sh/l2ONB/0a0ffcfe75.wav so see urself
-your forth combo color is too dark compared to the other 3 xd a lighter one would be nice

normal
-00:42:452 (1,3) - overlap looks ki9nda ugly tbhg xd
-00:46:782 (3,1,2) - triangle > better
-00:54:050 (5,6) - you could merge these into just 1 slider since there's another normal, a simplified rhythm is nice

light hard
-aimod
-xd

insane
-00:26:215 (1,2) - 1.0x plz
-01:02:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - just 1 triples makes more sense with the rest of the map i think. like similar patterns are just 1/2
-01:08:122 (6) - clap, prob other diffs too
-00:33:174 (3,4,5) - hs


so you either reduce the amount of triples/streams in insane or ask apple to add a bit more triples. I'd prefer if you reduce these streams tbh also having triples every measure against a hard that has only 3 triples in the whole map isnt good imo
So ya, try to make that gap a bit less noticiable. Then call me back :p

(also i prefer the original bg, without this flash effect :(( looks more neat, in addition to that, i think you took a not w/s picture and resize it to 16:9... plz i can see the pixels everywhere ;w;
alsoaslo you could export a osz with this mp3 http://puu.sh/l2Qh5/96724601a9.mp3 and add it to the description, so people that dont like male vocals, can have yuikonnu lmao. like https://osu.ppy.sh/b/637625 nameless link, k thxs.)
Do not want to add female vocal version here coz there is no female version for this song that I like ;w;

Others are all fixed!
Thank you very much for the help! :P
Will try to contact apple. I will decrease some triplets and streams and I would suggest apple to add some more so we can find a balance :P
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Sieg
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Sieg

Milan- wrote:

sieg
-00:12:452 (6) - ending it at 00:12:607 - makes more sense cuz the crash and cuz there's nothing noticiable where it ends now, prob need to change rhythm for gameplay tho like 00:17:092 (5,1) - works
k
-would be cool if do the same with 00:13:380 (2) - but it doesnt matter in tihs case ig uess
-00:53:896 (4,5) - sounds better as this imo http://puu.sh/l2Nj2/cb1bcebf19.jpg
k
-00:57:607 (2) - not a big fan of ignoring 00:58:380 - , mapping it fits everything so i dont see why not. And you could fix the rhythm up moving 00:59:153 (3) - to 00:58:999 - as a 1/1 slider or whatever, which makes the most sense to me
I like this long slider and how it plays
-A lot of rhythms sound pretty bad cuz you ignoring the strong beats for no real reason. The song is offbeat a lot so why do you keep using upbeat?. stuff like these 01:00:700 (3,4) - 01:01:938 (1) - 01:05:803 - 01:06:886 (1) - sounds really bad when you could've mapped them easily.
changed for non-reverse ones
thanku~

http://puu.sh/l3lWr/58907dc46b.osu
Mint
1,611 posts
Joined February 2013
Mint
Added jumps 'n triplets. Hope it fits your standards now!
and @腐男子, please don't force yourself to change something in the Insane, because I already changed stuff in my diff xd
osu! needs more male vocalists tbh

nyan
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Ryo-kun - Caramel Heaven.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 49875
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.1

[Metadata]
Title:Caramel Heaven
TitleUnicode:キャラメルへヴン
Artist:Ryo-kun
ArtistUnicode:りょーくん
Creator:Regraz
Version:apple's Hard
Source:
Tags:megpoid gumi vocaloid Last Note. [_Abhor_] Abhor appleeaterx Sieg
BeatmapID:793319
BeatmapSetID:358680

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Mafumafu
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nyan!
all updated!

wait for Milan-'s recheck!
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okey
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Milan- wrote:

okey
Thank you Milan :P
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Hey. your want ranked call me.

Nice map! here your go!
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HabiHolic wrote:

Hey. your want ranked call me.

Nice map! here your go!
Thank you very much for your attention and help on this map, Habi!
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wait
the METADATA!
Milan-
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both, capitalized and not capitalized should be fine.. cuz the official video uses both lol
if that's your concern..
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Milan- wrote:

both, capitalized and not capitalized should be fine.. cuz the official video uses both lol
if that's your concern..
Re-really? ouo
Kyouren
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Well, about metadata i pretty sure if used caramel heaven not Caramel Heaven, we can see in yukinonnu Fast mapset but whatever...

Gratzz~ <3
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Milan- wrote:

both, capitalized and not capitalized should be fine.. cuz the official video uses both lol
if that's your concern..
I have watched the video twice and couldn't find what you have said (probably too dizzy after I slept too much). Mind placing what you have found for future reference?

And I have a question, is the translation of the Niconico douga video pages automatic?
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IamKwaN wrote:

And I have a question, is the translation of the Niconico douga video pages automatic?
what?⊙▽⊙
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Regraz wrote:

IamKwaN wrote:

And I have a question, is the translation of the Niconico douga video pages automatic?
what?⊙▽⊙
This question arises because I can only find the translated title as the current one after pressing English.

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IamKwaN wrote:

Hi,

Just glanced through the original video, I believe the current artist is fine, it's a common practice to have the singer to be filled in the artist field if it's a cover.
However, the romanised title should be all small caps as shown here:

Agree? lol

Good luck!

Reference:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24976551
http://exittunes.com/cd/exit_tunes/qwce00288.html
But Caramel Heaven it's fine, and just my feeling because already having in fast mapset :P

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I doubt if the background is official.
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Could KarenT be counted as source?
(I guess nope
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<3
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Regraz wrote:

Could KarenT be counted as source?
(I guess nope
I am not sure if the information on this site is provided by the artist, like iTunes. Do you have any ideas?
Well, I will leave this case to the QAT from now on, as I have little knowledge about KARENT.
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IamKwaN wrote:

Regraz wrote:

Could KarenT be counted as source?
(I guess nope
I am not sure if the information on this site is provided by the artist, like iTunes. Do you have any ideas?
I could find the song (original version, not cover version) from KarenT. It uses "Caramel Heaven (feat. GUMI)" as title.
http://karent.jp/album/1631

Though the cover of the album shows "caramel heaven"
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It doesn't make sense to write all small caps, the picture seems more like a logo design, not the way to write it. Unless official text case is provided, this romanisied title is fine. Same case can be found here.
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