Laura Brehm & Evoke - Future Holds · forum

DahplA

Joined March 2014

DahplA 2015-09-21T12:40:31+00:00

Made a few changes since the AR/OD/HP spread was a bit out of whack.

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Yoges

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Yoges 2015-09-21T18:03:00+00:00

sheela901 wrote:
http://puu.sh/kiqQq/a48e9b6e50.jpg | As you can see, the flow will get better for 03:09:711 (2,1) . I also suggest you reduce the distance between 03:09:358 (1,2) a little; it's kind of random in my opinion. So maybe if you stack it with the tail of 03:08:298 (4) it would be great. I did something similar.

sheela901 wrote:
01:09:711 (3,1) - 01:15:711 (3,1) - It's so weird when I play them. It felt making you stop uncomfortably your play, and I think it needs a change. Personally, I would move the long sliders somewhere else with a distance of 1.0x. The pause fits the music fine for me. I don't really see a compelling reason to change it unless a lot of people complain about it.

All mods applied. I hope everything is fixed.

Yoges

896 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Yoges 2015-09-21T18:13:30+00:00

Could all the mappers involved in this beatmap please Re-download to prevent me having to fix conflicting tags, timing, and unsnapped bookmarks each time. Thank you!

sheela

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Joined October 2011

sheela 2015-09-22T00:08:35+00:00

andrei7 wrote:
01:28:769 (3) - I think you should add a new combo because you changed the rhythm that has gaps, and I hit too earlier 01:29:299 (4) . thats like the same moment as 01:25:946 (4,5) - do I need to insert NC here, too? And this is 01:28:417 (3) - easier to hit earlier. or did I misunderstood you? And I think NC should not be changed becouse of readability, so I need to fix that the other way, anyway
Actually, keep it the way it is now. When I modded, I remembered that you had another rhythm. But now, it's fine.

02:27:181 (2,3) - A similar case here, the short distance doesn't seem to follow anything with the music, and the movement makes it uncomfortable to play. Try to move this to x:49 y:347 was that something I fixed from previous mod?
My wordings might misunderstand you. I'm suggesting that you move 02:27:358 (3) out of 02:27:181 (2) so it doesn't have the small distance and keep the movement fluid. That's my opinion though.

02:35:299 (7,1) - If you have the hitcircle (1) off of 02:35:299 (7) in my opinion it emphasizes better with the strong beat on 02:35:475 .my english is too bad, cant understand.
It's the same as the point above. It would be best if you move 02:35:299 (7) somewhere else, other than overlapping 02:35:475 (1) .

andrei7 wrote:
Are hitsound difference of Insane to other diffs ok? should I make hs like in Insane, or in other diffs?

It doesn't matter if your difficulty has different or similar hitsound patterns to the other difficulties. You can put them on your own, or use a hitsound copier to copy the hitsounds from the hardest difficulty to yours (if the mapper allows it).

Let me know if andrei7 has made changes.

kirinokirino

354 posts

Joined June 2011

kirinokirino 2015-09-22T13:32:43+00:00

sheela901 wrote:
My wordings might misunderstand you. I'm suggesting that you move 02:27:358 (3) out of 02:27:181 (2) so it doesn't have the small distance and keep the movement fluid. That's my opinion though.
It's the same as the point above. It would be best if you move 02:35:299 (7) somewhere else, other than overlapping 02:35:475 (1) .

well, that is part of idea. If I change them, I should change 00:54:887 (3,4) - 00:56:828 (2,3) - 00:59:652 (2,3) - 01:01:946 (8,9) - etc. as well
and, if I will, I should change lots of things which will no longer make sense. maybe I will, maybe flow and readability will make a good map, but that requires a lot of mods.

It doesn't matter if your difficulty has different or similar hitsound patterns to the other difficulties. You can put them on your own, or use a hitsound copier to copy the hitsounds from the hardest difficulty to yours (if the mapper allows it)..
Thanks for link, I was using old one all the time.

I'd like to make hitsounds something similar to advanced. hopefully will finish them soon.
Changed last circle, and something else, i think
Update ->

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76,64,228534,1,0,0:0:0:0:
74,49,228711,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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180,152,231005,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,152,231181,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,80,233828,6,0,L|224:52,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,152,234534,6,0,B|139:182|96:169|96:169|92:208,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,292,235240,2,0,B|231:266|276:268|304:300|304:300|332:336|376:340|412:308,1,225.000008583069,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,196,236299,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,168,236652,2,0,P|400:136|352:24,1,168.750006437302,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,64,237358,6,0,B|236:36|236:36|172:52,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
140,120,237887,2,0,P|148:160|112:228,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,336,238593,2,0,B|104:332|132:344|132:344|160:328|200:332,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,240,239299,2,0,B|292:268|344:248|344:248|392:228|432:264,1,168.750006437302,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,152,240181,6,0,P|304:120|324:40,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,44,240711,2,0,P|204:24|108:20,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,180,241593,2,0,L|40:192,1,56.2500021457673,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
24,264,241946,2,0,L|134:283,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,208,243005,6,0,P|376:216|456:192,2,112.500004291535,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,100,244417,2,0,B|196:136|176:196|176:196|152:256|204:304,1,225.000008583069,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,324,245475,2,0,L|388:336,1,56.2500021457673,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,260,245828,5,0,0:0:0:0:
448,180,246534,2,0,P|464:144|416:32,1,168.750006437302,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,18,247240,2,0,P|292:44|264:92,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,188,247946,2,0,P|316:232|212:304,1,168.750006437302,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,280,248652,6,0,B|132:228|132:228|80:200,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,180,249181,2,0,P|72:176|116:140,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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416,128,250769,2,0,L|404:188,1,56.2500021457673,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
484,168,251122,2,0,L|460:280,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,308,251828,5,0,0:0:0:0:
352,308,252005,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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80,132,253064,2,0,L|96:72,1,56.2500021457673,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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424,36,254299,6,0,L|464:148,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,272,255005,2,0,B|360:248|313:293|313:293|272:340|208:316,1,225.000008583069,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,240,256064,2,0,B|108:188|108:188|48:160,1,112.500004291535,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,48,257122,5,0,0:0:0:0:

Yoges

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Yoges 2015-09-22T14:45:49+00:00

Andrei want me to hitsound it for you?

Yoges

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Yoges 2015-09-22T18:51:42+00:00

All done! Hope everything is fine.

Also extended 02:05:828 (4) - to 3 repeats because you weren't mapping a very prominent note.

sheela

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sheela 2015-09-22T23:40:20+00:00

No issues has been lifted in my end, so why don't we step this mapset a little further? Bubbled!

BigEarsMau

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BigEarsMau 2015-09-23T02:51:25+00:00

M4M
Easy, Alpha's Normal, and Hoen's Advanced are fine

[andrei7's Hard]

00:50:828 (6) - I suggest to stack this circle right at the top of 00:51:005 (1) for better readability and for a more tidier position
02:27:005 (1,2,3) - I suggest for a stack on these three circles for better flow because they look unorganized and uneven
03:33:358 - You should map the echoes or the instruments in this empty part since leaving this empty feels like a pacebreaker for players. Also, it feels like a waste if you didn't map in here
03:40:417 - ^
03:44:652 - ^
03:51:711 - This would be a perfect chance for a break

I can't mod Insane bc I can't play Insane diffs well

That's all I can find. Hope this helps

Good luck in being ranked

Yoges

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Yoges 2015-09-23T05:54:51+00:00

Ooo a bubble! I'm getting excited :3
I'll do your M4M soon big ears.

Krfawy

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Krfawy 2015-09-23T14:29:07+00:00

Hi, so you requested Krfawy to tesplay Insane only but she was that tricky so she testplayed the whole mapset, because she could. \w/

General

How about 22768 as an offset number? A really small change, but wouldn't hurt.

Easy

00:28:417 (1) - This patterning is not... unrankable... maybe, however, it'd be nicer to make something more straightforward because noobies might have troubles here. Additionally, QATs love simpler stuff in easiest diffs, you know. How about something as simple as *THIS*? Other variations are as welcome as if not more!
00:39:711 (5) - To be honest I think it would be a nice moment for a new combo since you've been comboing like this from the beginning, I mean: 00:22:770 (1) - here, 00:28:417 (1) - here 00:34:770 (1) - and here. I don't really think it's an issue that a possible new combo would be very short, it would work preety nicely I believe. \o/
00:46:064 - Okay, so the comboinb after the first break starts to be less common and the accurate ones are quite long. Because they were significantly shorter in the previous section I'd recommend to use shorter ones because now it's rather inconsistent and that seems to be rather unpolished than made on a purpose. So I simply recommend to make new combos at every note like 00:51:711 (5) - here, 01:03:005 (5) - here 01:08:652 (2) - and here and so on, moreover, I'd rather delete it 01:06:534 (1) - here because it doesn't really follow the vocals and the beat, I guess you mistook it with 01:08:652 (2) - this note. xD
01:27:711 - Not a really good idea to use only 15% volume in my opinion, the notes are barely audible. I'd recommend 25% or something similar.
02:58:064 (1,2) - Okay, so firstly I suggest two things here. Firstly, you start every section with a circle instead of a slider and I have to admit it would fit better in terms of the playability. Secondly, the power of blanketing might not be worthy because the flow is not as nice as possible. I've done similar mistakes in the past and I highly recommend to use something what plays properly instead of using patterns which just look nice.What do I mean? I mean *THIS*. Just please, make an obvious simple path instead of making a pattern which is not as obvious as presented one. :<

Alpha's Normal

How about addint mini breaks between 03:31:593 (1,2,3) - and 03:35:828 (1,2,3) - and so on? I really think it might be needed because the song is quite long and noobs might not be doing so well, you know. D:

Insane

My personal suggestion: How about AR8.7-8.8? Objects appear a liiiiittle bit too quickly for me, but just my opinion. Also how about OD8 so it's more ppable? *Krfawy runs

If you have any concerns, try to catch me in-game or send me a private message via forums!

Call me back! :3

EDIT: LOL Are you stalking the thread that I got KDS so quickly? XD

kirinokirino

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kirinokirino 2015-09-23T15:12:42+00:00

SPOILER

BigEarsMau wrote:
M4M
Easy, Alpha's Normal, and Hoen's Advanced are fine

[andrei7's Hard]
00:50:828 (6) - I suggest to stack this circle right at the top of 00:51:005 (1) for better readability and for a more tidier position
cant do that nicely. and this is more important for me in that particular map, since readability is relatively fine
02:27:005 (1,2,3) - I suggest for a stack on these three circles for better flow because they look unorganized and uneven "well, that is part of idea. If I change them, I should change 00:54:887 (3,4) - 00:56:828 (2,3) - 00:59:652 (2,3) - 01:01:946 (8,9) - etc. as well
and, if I will, I should change lots of things which will no longer make sense. maybe I will, maybe flow and readability will make a good map, but that requires a lot of mods."
03:33:358 - You should map the echoes or the instruments in this empty part since leaving this empty feels like a pacebreaker for players. Also, it feels like a waste if you didn't map in here
03:40:417 - ^
03:44:652 - ^ no, cant find any valid way to do that.
03:51:711 - This would be a perfect chance for a break meh, dont like small breaks
I can't mod Insane bc I can't play Insane diffs well

That's all I can find. Hope this helps

Good luck in being ranked

no changes for now, sorry

Yoges

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Yoges 2015-09-23T15:19:06+00:00

Krfawy wrote:
Hi, so you requested Krfawy to tesplay Insane only but she was that tricky so she testplayed the whole mapset, because she could. \w/

General
How about 22768 as an offset number? A really small change, but wouldn't hurt. Done
Easy
00:28:417 (1) - This patterning is not... unrankable... maybe, however, it'd be nicer to make something more straightforward because noobies might have troubles here. Additionally, QATs love simpler stuff in easiest diffs, you know. How about something as simple as *THIS*? Other variations are as welcome as if not more! Done
00:39:711 (5) - To be honest I think it would be a nice moment for a new combo since you've been comboing like this from the beginning, I mean: 00:22:770 (1) - here, 00:28:417 (1) - here 00:34:770 (1) - and here. I don't really think it's an issue that a possible new combo would be very short, it would work preety nicely I believe. \o/ Ok, done
00:46:064 - Okay, so the comboinb after the first break starts to be less common and the accurate ones are quite long. Because they were significantly shorter in the previous section I'd recommend to use shorter ones because now it's rather inconsistent and that seems to be rather unpolished than made on a purpose. So I simply recommend to make new combos at every note like 00:51:711 (5) - here, 01:03:005 (5) - here 01:08:652 (2) - and here and so on, moreover, I'd rather delete it 01:06:534 (1) - here because it doesn't really follow the vocals and the beat, I guess you mistook it with 01:08:652 (2) - this note. xD Increased NCs from 00:46:064 (1) - to 01:06:534 (6) - and I left it after 01:08:652 (1) -
01:27:711 - Not a really good idea to use only 15% volume in my opinion, the notes are barely audible. I'd recommend 25% or something similar. 25% works much nicer
02:58:064 (1,2) - Okay, so firstly I suggest two things here. Firstly, you start every section with a circle instead of a slider and I have to admit it would fit better in terms of the playability. Secondly, the power of blanketing might not be worthy because the flow is not as nice as possible. I've done similar mistakes in the past and I highly recommend to use something what plays properly instead of using patterns which just look nice.What do I mean? I mean *THIS*. Just please, make an obvious simple path instead of making a pattern which is not as obvious as presented one. :< Done
Insane
My personal suggestion: How about AR8.7-8.8? Objects appear a liiiiittle bit too quickly for me, but just my opinion. Nah. I want to keep it at a high AR because it'll be a good gateway map for low ar players who still play hards but want to do more challenging stuff like insanes. AR 9 means It'll also be friendlier to HR & DT players, aswell as players that are locked to high ARs. Also if high diff, low AR maps like this can get ranked I don't see a reason for low diff, high AR maps not to be ranked aswell. Also how about OD8 so it's more ppable? Changed to OD 7.5*Krfawy runs
If you have any concerns, try to catch me in-game or send me a private message via forums!

Call me back! :3 Will be happy to ^^

EDIT: LOL Are you stalking the thread that I got KDS so quickly? XD Ssshhhhh!

Yoges

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Yoges 2015-09-23T15:35:58+00:00

Responding for Alpha as this mod is quite short.

Krfawy wrote:
Alpha's Normal
How about addint mini breaks between 03:31:593 (1,2,3) - and 03:35:828 (1,2,3) - and so on? I really think it might be needed because the song is quite long and noobs might not be doing so well, you know. D: Done

Krfawy

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Krfawy 2015-09-23T18:57:22+00:00

#KRWOTOK

Yoges

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Yoges 2015-09-23T19:02:46+00:00

Thanks Krfawy! Lets hope we can survive the QATs OuO

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