Like the title says. Relearning because i have been reinforcing an extremely bad habit of playing spamming the keyboard on 2.4+ star songs resulting in terrible accuracy(80%). Any beat map recommendations for relearning. Also should i play HR RD
(how do i show an image of my accuracy)

Stickman92 wrote:

Like the title says. Relearning because i have been reinforcing an extremely bad habit of playing spamming the keyboard on 2.4+ star songs resulting in terrible accuracy(80%). Any beat map recommendations for relearning. Also should i play HR RD
(how do i show an image of my accuracy)

Play easier songs, and climb your way up. Once you S a set difficulty, I'd say move to the next. Learning patterns the right way is key to good accuracy, hence why I half ass everything when I play easy songs. Your issue seems to be a lack of pattern memory / precision, so I would suggest to practice said patterns at a slower pace. An example would be to take 1.8 star songs and play them with RD on to emulate what different patterns some songs may have. HR isn't necessary at that level yet in my opinion, but it may help you if you play very easy songs and want to sharp-shoot Max300s.

Personally won't think that spamming the keyboard/mashing keys randomly would actually help in finger independence, in which should be the main priority for beginners/starters, try to go for lower star rating maps.

It should be fine for beginners to have very low accuracy but if you find yourself not being able to distinguish notes in different columns, you will have a problem sooner or later when it comes to more complex patterns involving more LN+note combos
Beatmap i would recommend are just ranked mania maps, you can probably search in the osu! beatmap section with "Recommended Difficulty" on, which will probably show the better ones that you can try out, you can have a go at osu!standard to osu!mania autoconverted beatmaps of your favorite songs, since you're just starting out and since osu!mania doesn't have that many ranked easy maps, just take note that whenever possible, go for osu!mania specific maps, they are much better structured than that of a generated map.

HR itself is a potential way to polish up your accuracy, though i find myself rarely using it unless I don't want to submit scores, it basically doubles HP and OD and makes the accuracy of all judgements harsher, it's not really a needed tool for most people I've seen unless you plan to be an accuracy god, which is fine also.

RD is a rather helpful and terrible mod, depending on how you look at it, it is mod based on RNG, people sometimes use it to make maps easier or harder whilst maintaining the map density, which can help in high star rating passes, I guess you can use it for low level maps to "refresh" the map since some easy maps do not have much pattern dependency, which mainly are autoconverts

Though don't stress yourself in trying to get better in a very minimal time, enjoying the game itself is what's important, feel free to try out anything x)

Zenx wrote:

Though don't stress yourself in trying to get better in a very minimal time, enjoying the game itself is what's important, feel free to try out anything x)

I'm stressin' pretty hard about sucking at 7k.

I suggest downloading at least most if not all of the ranked maps to have a pretty nifty array of different maps/patterns if you haven't done it already. Skill boosts can be triggered by playing a set of recurring patterns and getting your fingers accustomed to them. If you keep on playing the same 20 maps, you wont have much to improve off of. I also strongly suggest to not be shy about playing unranked maps, as there are many hidden gems and jewels in that section. Having a large pool of maps means you could get used to different patterns without using an "unreliable" mod like RD. (I don't suggest you play for scores with RD on, as it skews your accuracy)

You've seen the thread about improving on mania I see, and I would thus suggest to take a look at the Novice section, considering you say you have to go back quite some. Don't over think this though, just diversify and play frequently and improvement will come naturally, no matter how stagnant it feels. (Even I get discouraged sometimes, but it always turns out pretty well if I keep on practicing. I don't think anyone is immune from this, which is why I try my best to stay positive so playing doesn't become a painful experience.)

pls enjoy game


:c

Zenx wrote:

pls enjoy game


:c

I want be best
"We push ourselves to the maximum!"

. I like challenges which is probably why i played(not anymore) super hard maps but now i have a new type of challenge which is HR

I like challenging myself too. I like to play songs on nofail that I have no hope of passing, just to see how I do. The thing about playing like this is that if you want to improve, you need to really work at not just mashing blindly when you do that. It's instinct to just blindly mash when you encounter a pattern that overwhelms you, so you need to force yourself to try to hit as much of the pattern as you can.

For now though it'd probably better to stick with some easier stuff until you notice that you're almost never hitting the wrong key.

HR will be fine on easier songs, but watch out for songs with HP8 or higher, because those will all become HP10, and HP10 is extremely unforgiving. In most cases it can be impossible to get back to full health after a few misses on HP10.

I found that Challenging maps helps me improve my finger independence and non-challenging maps that i can HR helps my accuracy. But i have a problem with the HD mod which is that i hit the notes too early. Without HD i am perfectly fine.

And Zenx when i said mashing more specifically i meant hitting notes in a fast succession but not that accurately(which cause the 80% acc i was talking about). But i know i am more accurate now since 1 day later i am getting 83%+ on challenging maps. So i am doing a cycle of focusing on accuracy then challenging maps and repeating that process( i get bored if i play easy maps for a long time). Slowly but surely i will get a consistent 90%+ accuracy on every map.

Stickman92 wrote:

I found that Challenging maps helps me improve my finger independence and non-challenging maps that i can HR helps my accuracy. But i have a problem with the HD mod which is that i hit the notes too early. Without HD i am perfectly fine.

And Zenx when i said mashing more specifically i meant hitting notes in a fast succession but not that accurately(which cause the 80% acc i was talking about). But i know i am more accurate now since 1 day later i am getting 83%+ on challenging maps. So i am doing a cycle of focusing on accuracy then challenging maps and repeating that process( i get bored if i play easy maps for a long time). Slowly but surely i will get a consistent 90%+ accuracy on every map.

Mfw post disappears after trying to post a novel about balance and consistency with accuracy and my experiences with playing that way and..

To sum it up, consistency and speed = good scores. Unless you're consistently mediocre. (getting 200s 95% of your hits) Play easy songs to make sure your consistency isn't dropping. It was dropping pretty badly recently and playing for accuracy enforced me to fix my inconsistent play, which resulted in much higher scores on most songs. Speed allows you to reach a level of which you can play consistently, and stamina affects how consistently fast you CAN go. By consistency, I mean to be stable and not slowly deteriorate your accuracy by rushing through patterns.

I've gone and tried summing up a multiple paragraph post in one. Hopefully you understand, and don't need relating examples from yours truly.

Stickman92 wrote:

I found that Challenging maps helps me improve my finger independence and non-challenging maps that i can HR helps my accuracy. But i have a problem with the HD mod which is that i hit the notes too early. Without HD i am perfectly fine.

Have you tried timing the notes by ear instead of sight?

Stickman92 wrote:

I found that Challenging maps helps me improve my finger independence and non-challenging maps that i can HR helps my accuracy. But i have a problem with the HD mod which is that i hit the notes too early. Without HD i am perfectly fine.

If you are doing just fine without HD, then you probably don't need to actually start using it unless HD is helping you more with reading than it is hindering you.

The likely case, is that you're not completely used to HD yet, but just leaving it on when you play will fix that.

Well i guess now time to do every single 2-2.5 star map accurately with HD and RD (maybe HR).

How far have you made it through this list>>? t/147552

I am up to Novice 10. I set my goal 85% acc. If i didnt get 85%+ accuracy i spent ONLY did 1 extra attempt. When using HR i set my goal to 80%. And in the Dan Course- Normal Level (here is the link)https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/304618 i am α-6 (6th Dan) - ☆2.97

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Redon wrote:

Stickman92 wrote:

I am up to Novice 10. I set my goal 85% acc. If i didnt get 85%+ accuracy i spent ONLY did 1 extra attempt. When using HR i set my goal to 80%. And in the Dan Course- Normal Level (here is the link)https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/304618 i am α-6 (6th Dan) - ☆2.97

I think your goal should be at least 90%, preferably 95% and above. If you get a 80-85% acc on a map, switch to easier maps until you do well enough on those.

Tell that to all the die-hard o2jam players, lol

I disagree with Redon here. I don't think it's very helpful to have some specific accuracy goal that applies to every map you play. It doesn't promote a healthy attitude towards the game. VSRGs are ultimately not a game about reaching some specific goal. At their core, VSRGs are about challenging yourself to get better. If you look at the game itself (what I mean is ignore things like ranking that aren't directly part of actually playing a beatmap) the goal is very simple: hit as many of the notes as accurately as you can.

In order to get as good as you can at doing this, there are several different skills that you must develop. When you ask questions like 'how do I get better?' most people will say 'play more', some people will give suggestions like Redon gave above that suggest certain tactics in picking what you practice in order to maximize your learning of these skills. But there's something nobody talks about that's far far more important than what songs you play.

The single most important thing you need is the right attitude.

I'll give you some examples of behavior that comes from a bad attitude. When people give up the moment they make a mistake, that's usually because of a bad attitude towards the game (except when someone is specifically trying to get a certain kind of score, such as a full combo or an SS). Mashing keys when you reach a section of the song that is a bit too hard to play completely properly. Getting angry when you fail, etc.

The only goal you should have when you play a beatmap is to play it. That's it. If you try too hard to reach some goal, you will make more mistakes, you will teach yourself bad habits, and you will constantly be trying to judge whether or not you are good enough.

Relax, focus, and just play. Don't think of anything else but the music and the notes. Don't let mistakes bother you.

Next time you play a beatmap, hit shift+tab to hide the score and combo and other counters. Not only does this reduce the number of visual distractions on the screen that can break your focus while playing, but it will make it easier to stop concentrating on how well you're doing and just enjoy playing beatmaps in general.

Now, I'm not saying that you shouldn't do things like try to improve your rank, or set goals for yourself. I'm saying that those things shouldn't be in your mind when you're actually playing. I still give myself goals such as trying to S a map I haven't S'd yet, or to pass songs I haven't passed yet, or just to improve my personal best on a certain map. But I never think about any of this when I'm playing. Most of the time I have no idea how well I'm actually doing on a map. I might have a small idea because maybe I'm making more combo breaks than usual, or i'm simply playing better that day, but I never know for sure until the song is over and I've checked the score screen.

So, to sum everything up:
Relax, don't worry about how you're doing. Enjoy the beatmaps, pick goals, but don't obsess over the little details.
Clear your mind when you play and just try to focus on the beatmap you're playing.
Don't let mistakes and fails bother you.

Bobbias wrote:

Next time you play a beatmap, hit shift+tab to hide the score and combo and other counters.

I wish i knew this when i started playing. When i see myself doing good i immediately do worse e.g Getting 95% on a song and seeing acc i get 90-93%.