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[4VKZ] RUCO
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[4VKZ] RUCO
Hello there! I know, what osu! should have! It's Sound Voltex mode, called osu!voltex
It's like 4K osu!mania but with:
FX Notes:


Controls: RIGHT FX Right Shift, LEFT FX Left Shift
Volume Notes:
2 lines in left (blue line) and right (red line) sides. You can move it to left and right by buttons (RIGHT VOL O/P; LEFT VOL Q/W)



ALL DEFAULT CONTROLS
Notes: SD KL
FX: Left Shift, Right Shift
VOL: Q/W O/P
O2MasterFX
496 posts
Joined April 2014
O2MasterFX
No!

Go play Kshoot instead.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
Sounds incredibly confusing

Also, to O2Master, I read Kahoot (which is a quiz-type of app we use in school xD)
XinCrin
2,846 posts
Joined January 2012
XinCrin
This is osu! :)
Kurai
osu! Alumni
7,734 posts
Joined March 2009
Kurai
It's probably never going to happen, it's way too similar to osu!mania, it's not that interestingand worth the hassle of implementing it to have a 5th game mode that is that similar to another gamemode. Besides, the Sound Voltex concept is nice for Arcade, but it sounds boring and way too complex on a computer.
otoed1
639 posts
Joined May 2014
otoed1

Kurai wrote:

It's probably never going to happen, it's way too similar to osu!mania, it's not that interestingand worth the hassle of implementing it to have a 5th game mode that is that similar to another gamemode. Besides, the Sound Voltex concept is nice for Arcade, but it sounds boring and way too complex on a computer.
How could sound voltex sound boring anywhere. Too complex yeah, this game is to hard to setup well on computer, but boring? Never. Frankly though, its a poor idea as its too difficult to implement imo.
abraker
Global Moderator
8,327 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker
From Blog post 20150713
@ppy Any interest in making a SoundVoltex like mode? –BrojosB4Shojos
Hmm, basically osu!mania with added analog controls? Personally I don’t have any intention to do so, but it could easily be added as an optional key-mode to mania without making a full new game mode.
try24get
241 posts
Joined November 2014
try24get
looking to abraker post, so if this applied this mode play with at least a keyboard for keys and a mouse for analog control?
mania was cheaper than that, but yeah not so bad idea, though
O2MasterFX
496 posts
Joined April 2014
O2MasterFX
Like I said...

O2MasterFX wrote:

Go play Kshoot instead.
PatZar
3,079 posts
Joined March 2013
PatZar

Kurai wrote:

It's probably never going to happen, it's way too similar to osu!mania, it's not that interestingand worth the hassle of implementing it to have a 5th game mode that is that similar to another gamemode. Besides, the Sound Voltex concept is nice for Arcade, but it sounds boring and way too complex on a computer.
^
hyouri
390 posts
Joined June 2012
hyouri
Bump

OP: Using 2D vertical scrolling like that won't be good, it needs a 3D scrolling like in Guitar Hero/SDVX and other games

Kurai wrote:

It's probably never going to happen, it's way too similar to osu!mania, it's not that interestingand worth the hassle of implementing it to have a 5th game mode that is that similar to another gamemode. Besides, the Sound Voltex concept is nice for Arcade, but it sounds boring and way too complex on a computer.
>similar to mania


are you serious? it's like saying FIFA and GTA5 are similar because you can kick people in both of them. Osu! Mania is nothing a like SDVX except you use 4k, so taiko is just as similar. comparing those is like comparing Justin Bieber to a music composer like Bach wtf
And what do you mean "too complex"? So it should be this easy and crappy instead? Adding difficulties would make this game mode "too hard"? Lmao. KSM did it so why can't osu!?
And peppy could earn shit ton of money by selling custom SDVX boards for this game mode

We could at least get a 3D scrolling feature (Like Guitar Hero and SDVX) rather than this garbage 2d scrolling mode?
Rilene
2,105 posts
Joined April 2014
Rilene
KONAMI will sue us.
Redon
302 posts
Joined November 2013
Redon
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Karukami
67 posts
Joined October 2011
Karukami
It would be fun, somewhat confusing at first though @w@
I don't think we will be seeing new game modes soon :(
or maybe I could be wrong ouo
OperaMini0
63 posts
Joined January 2014
OperaMini0
who would make maps for it
it's like 14K

everyone that would play it already plays another game that does the same thing
Rori Vidi Veni
175 posts
Joined January 2013
Rori Vidi Veni
This informative post will be deleted anyway, just move along
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hyouri
390 posts
Joined June 2012
hyouri

Sirade wrote:

KONAMI will sue us.
Why? KSM didn't get shit for this

OperaMini0 wrote:

who would make maps for it
it's like 14K

everyone that would play it already plays another game that does the same thing
It would be 10k for keyboard, but 8k for SDVX-board. It's not even hard to map those, if you've ever tried KSM Editor then you'd get it

Ofcourse they're playing another game, as if Osu! has it?
OperaMini0
63 posts
Joined January 2014
OperaMini0

hyouri wrote:

Sirade wrote:

KONAMI will sue us.
Why? KSM didn't get shit for this

OperaMini0 wrote:

who would make maps for it
it's like 14K

everyone that would play it already plays another game that does the same thing
It would be 10k for keyboard, but 8k for SDVX-board. It's not even hard to map those, if you've ever tried KSM Editor then you'd get it

Ofcourse they're playing another game, as if Osu! has it?
i mean, why would anyone make maps for this and not k-shoot mania? k-shoot already has its own players and mappers, people that already play k-shoot would just play the 2-5 ranked maps available here then leave. why would anyone switch to osu when there are already hundreds of maps available on k-shoot?

by "it's like 14k" i meant that it would be like adding a mode with 14 keys: a lot of people that play 4k/7k wouldn't play it since it sounds too complex (k-shoot is really weird on keyboard, moving knobs with left/right buttons is hard), beginners that want to learn how to play it wouldn't have enough maps, and anyone that knows how to play it/make maps for it will just play the small amount of maps available here then go back to lr2 (or k-shoot for this mode)

i'm pretty sure that anyone that cares enough to play with that awkward layout (or anyone that can find where to buy a controller, pay for it and wait for it to ship) cares enough to download k-shoot and the songs that already exist for it
Rilene
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Joined April 2014
Rilene

hyouri wrote:

Sirade wrote:

KONAMI will sue us.
Why? KSM didn't get shit for this
KONAMI removed many beatmaps with "beatmania iidx" metadatas, imagine if KONAMI found out all entire mode like this one.

That might escalate to real copyright issues and DMCA requests, as if our game is commercial (while KSM is not commercial, I think) and is using their copyrighted resources (if this was implemented), of course they would likely to sue.

And well, it is way too be similar with osu!mania to be considered as a new mode.

Just my two cents.
OperaMini0
63 posts
Joined January 2014
OperaMini0

Sirade wrote:

KONAMI removed many beatmaps with "beatmania iidx" metadatas, imagine if KONAMI found out all entire mode like this one.

That might escalate to real copyright issues and DMCA requests, as if our game is commercial (while KSM is not commercial, I think) and is using their copyrighted resources (if this was implemented), of course they would likely to sue.

And well, it is way too be similar with osu!mania to be considered as a new mode.

Just my two cents.
Along with how they started ranking maps for iidx songs again.
Did they get permission from konami to use their songs again? If they didn't and osu gets attention from konami again, konami could remove songs from all of their games on osu. I've seen this removal request, but I haven't seen anything saying that konami gave the green light to new iidx maps.
Rilene
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Joined April 2014
Rilene

OperaMini0 wrote:

Along with how they started ranking maps for iidx songs again.
Did they get permission from konami to use their songs again? If they didn't and osu gets attention from konami again, konami could remove songs from all of their games on osu. I've seen this removal request, but I haven't seen anything saying that konami gave the green light to new iidx maps.
Oh well, KONAMI does not allow their songs (or just Beatmania IIDX) to be uploaded (means no permission), if they found it again, they will remove it again, also the more they made such an request, the chance of getting sued is raising higher and higher.

Also applies to jubeat, REFLEC BEAT, DDR, SDVX and pop'n music, however they don't get noticed easily like beatmania where majority of the songs were in that game.

To be honest, it is way too similar with osu!mania, implementing it would be just like making a copy of gamemode and adding features to it, I'm not against this idea, would be nice addition to osu!mania but not as a seperate gamemode and I'm just concerned about the copyright issues which could cause a real issues to the game itself.

It is just my opinion, don't bash on me.
konekokittenzzz
144 posts
Joined March 2014
konekokittenzzz

OperaMini0 wrote:

who would make maps for it
it's like 14K

everyone that would play it already plays another game that does the same thing
It's 6 keys plus two analog controls.

As an avid KSM/K-Shoot MANIA charter, a tool for charting could easily be made and isn't really that complex to make charts as it sounds like it is.

On the request of a SDVX/Sound Voltex mode, I really do not think it's needed because of the fact that was have:
KSM (K-Shoot MANIA)
and ED2 (Effect Drive 2, a new SDVX sim coming in a few months)

If it was added though, I hope people know how to chart similar to SDVX charting. I won't be able to stand for LN spam in a gamemode like this.

I don't think it would work well on a keyboard. It would need to be played on a controller to be played properly. Not saying that it's not possible on keyboard (as i know some really good KSM players that play on a keyboard and have never touched a controller), but it seems like it would be better on a controller.

However, if it was ever added, absolutely NO actual SDVX charts ever. That's just asking for a DCMA.
Baebee
3 posts
Joined July 2015
Baebee
I don't really think that this is needed.. That looks really confusing also.
abraker
Global Moderator
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Joined July 2014
abraker
The only way I see this doable without mimicking N+2 keys is having some kind of feet slider controller (slide your feet to do those whatchya-call-it). Unrealistic idea and an unrealistic mode for osu! as cool as it looks.
hyouri
390 posts
Joined June 2012
hyouri

abraker wrote:

The only way I see this doable without mimicking N+2 keys is having some kind of feet slider controller (slide your feet to do those whatchya-call-it). Unrealistic idea and an unrealistic mode for osu! as cool as it looks.
"unrealistic" just leave this thread

So ignorant. You're saying "I find this confusing because my non-existent brain can't handle it, so it's unrealistic to have another RHYTHM game mode for osu!"
konekokittenzzz
144 posts
Joined March 2014
konekokittenzzz
I still find it funny how people think playing this isn't possible on keyboard.



It's possible. It just takes time to learn.
Ven
85 posts
Joined August 2013
Ven
id love this mode, i always watch tbl kitten streams!
Ender Lain
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Joined January 2015
Ender Lain
1. That's not 4K Mania
abraker
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Joined July 2014
abraker

hyouri wrote:

So ignorant. You're saying "I find this confusing because my non-existent brain can't handle it, so it's unrealistic to have another RHYTHM game mode for osu!"
It's the controls this mode is made for that makes it unrealistic. This mode would be best played with analog controls. By using digital controls, you are mimicking N+2k keymodes.
Scanline
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Joined August 2013
Scanline
lmao @ All the people saying it would be too confusing, that's the point of rhythm games, they're supposed to be confusing. That's why everyone hates Osu!mania.
Look at simulators like LR2 and Kshoot mania, they're meant to be complex and confusing unlike noodle spam mania.
People are saying key setups are too confusing, look at the way people play Lr2 on the keyboard, it's do-able.

It would be interesting to have the game implemented in Osu especially for the ranking system but otherwise its pointless, the same kind of games exist mind you all of osu is just a copy of other games too so it would probably fit.
abraker
Global Moderator
8,327 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker
lmao @ All the people saying it would be too confusing, that's the point of rhythm games, they're supposed to be confusing.
In my view rhythm games have to follow rhythm, have interesting patterns, and have optimal controls for playing the mode. If you think it supposed to be confusing then you prefer difficulty over enjoyability.
TakuMii
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Joined October 2009
TakuMii
^SDVX isn't too confusing IMO... Once you get the hang of it, it actually flows very well (even at lower difficulties). The only real issue I have with a mode like this is that it's just not quite the same game without the arcade control setup, which I doubt most people have access to.
Hazrd
19 posts
Joined May 2014
Hazrd

TBLKitten wrote:

I still find it funny how people think playing this isn't possible on keyboard.



It's possible. It just takes time to learn.
For the record, I made this KSM skin x3
akashot_old
4 posts
Joined April 2010
akashot_old

Hazrd wrote:

TBLKitten wrote:

I still find it funny how people think playing this isn't possible on keyboard.



It's possible. It just takes time to learn.
For the record, I made this KSM skin x3

Its impossible to me, i can play EX 14 and 15. What is ur setting ?
konekokittenzzz
144 posts
Joined March 2014
konekokittenzzz

akashot wrote:

Its impossible to me, i can play EX 14 and 15. What is ur setting ?

I didn't make this video. Some member over at the KSM facebook group did.
Nyquill
osu! Alumni
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Joined February 2011
Nyquill
you know at this point what we're really dying for is an actually good KSM editor, not another sim.
abraker
Global Moderator
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Joined July 2014
abraker

abraker wrote:

Unrealistic idea and an unrealistic mode for osu! as cool as it looks.
*sigh* At this point, with 100+ stars, there is little chance of going back. Guess I will need to change gears. Time to discuss mods, how much pp it will be worth, whether this be part of mania or an entirely different mode, and other good debatable stuff.
Remyria
361 posts
Joined June 2012
Remyria

KyTheGuy wrote:

Look at simulators like LR2 and Kshoot mania, they're meant to be complex and confusing unlike noodle spam mania.
People are saying key setups are too confusing, look at the way people play Lr2 on the keyboard, it's do-able.
What does make LR2 more "complex and confusing" than osumania?
LittleBird-
36 posts
Joined June 2015
LittleBird-

HighBPM wrote:

Hello there! I know, what osu! should have! It's Sound Voltex mode, called osu!voltex
It's like 4K osu!mania but with:
FX Notes:


Controls: RIGHT FX Right Shift, LEFT FX Left Shift
Volume Notes:
2 lines in left (blue line) and right (red line) sides. You can move it to left and right by buttons (RIGHT VOL O/P; LEFT VOL Q/W)



ALL DEFAULT CONTROLS
Notes: SD KL
FX: Left Shift, Right Shift
VOL: Q/W O/P
Play KSM
Sarahkuai
464 posts
Joined November 2014
Sarahkuai
... well this is a good idea but, that's make osu more difficult, especialy for rank this mode -_-
shut up!, & play K-shootmania
osu123fan
22 posts
Joined October 2014
osu123fan
Where i choose osu!voltex mode?
Ameth Rianno
515 posts
Joined November 2014
Ameth Rianno

osu123fan wrote:

Where i choose osu!voltex mode?
there's no osu!voltex in this game- this is just a feature request

play ksm instead
osu!voltex as its name? no please :/
Shiuzyo
33 posts
Joined June 2014
Shiuzyo
lel nice try, but that idea is similar to one of Azer's play
i believe that game was called insane technique :l
idk tbh
konekokittenzzz
144 posts
Joined March 2014
konekokittenzzz

Shiuzyo wrote:

lel nice try, but that idea is similar to one of Azer's play
i believe that game was called insane technique :l
idk tbh
It's called K-Shoot MANIA, a simulator of sound voltex.

The OP even mentioned it in his/her post. What are you on about?
Kurabuman
53 posts
Joined March 2014
Kurabuman
Maybe instead of implementing it in to osu!, peppy could get a hold of the devs of kshootmania and give it that osu! polish with global rankings, a beatmap page where you can find all beatmaps. It could also be linked to your osu! account and have its own little section on your profile. The game is already made and is super interesting, fun and fast paced, it just needs more online functionality and polish which cross-development between our boys and the ksm devs could bring.

There's even controllers that you can buy (google Virgoo), and an editor where you can create "charts". Kshootmania has a very small community that pretty much revolve around a single Facebook group, so more attention to it would be awesome.
-Atri-
3,049 posts
Joined March 2013
-Atri-
Tell me, where to buy SDVX controllers?
Kurabuman
53 posts
Joined March 2014
Kurabuman

KuranteMelodii wrote:

Tell me, where to buy SDVX controllers?
Here's the most popular model http://en.virgoo.me/

...and here are some cheaper ones http://www.gamo2.com/en/2015_summer_en/
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