Selective Auto Mod for [osu!mania] - Focus on some columns. · forum

FrenzyLi

Joined April 2015

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FrenzyLi 2015-07-05T10:42:10+00:00

Status quo: The auto mod makes all columns perfect.
Request: Get feedback only on the columns you care about.

To the dev team: please enable an option such that any number of columns on osu!mania is auto while other columns are not-- the "Selective" Auto Mod. Please support if you don't find this annoying. The idea is easy; this feature probably doesn't require too much programming, but yeah-- take your time, devs.

What does Selective Auto do?

Before playing osu!mania beatmap, select columns to opt out of autoplay.
The columns opted in (Auto Columns) will be autoplayed. These notes are all registered as max and counts towards the score.
The columns opted out (Regular Columns) require pressing. Hitting a 200 is a 200, and a miss is counted as a miss.
Preferably, the auto columns are dimmed slightly to be contrasted by the selected keys. (If Auto on all keys, then do not dim).
A score multiplier the same as the N-Key Mod is applied.
The score will be unranked as is the case with the current Auto.
If any key is opted out, the player is no longer NOT the osu!topus.

Examples

XK+1/+2: AUTO +1/+2. Ignore special keys not on the keyboard and play like XK. (By Zenx)
7K: AUTO 1|2|3. Practice the right hand with column 4|5|6|7.
7K: AUTO 3|4|5|6. Practice the left hand with column 1|2|3.
7K: AUTO 4|5|6. Practice the left hand with column 1|2|3|4.
7K: AUTO 4. Downgrade to 6K map to practice left hand 1|2|3 and right hand 4|5|6.
7K: AUTO 1|2|3|5|6|7. Practice column 4 only. (For me, it's spacebar for the thumbs.)
7K: AUTO 5|7. I can hold 5|7 while learning to hit notes on 1|2|3|4|6.
7K: AUTO 1|3|5|7. Perfect for practicing Wintersun 7K during measures 35:3 ~ 37:3 (Click for picture).
4K: AUTO 1|2. Fun for right hand only.

Example of Selective Auto

Select a 7 key osu!mania map.
Turn on the Auto Mod.
Click "Select keys to opt out from auto".
Prompted to press keys that are not auto'ed. Press column 2 | 4 | 6.
Press enter to confirm.
Start playing on the beatmap.
Press 2 | 4 | 6. Do not worry about columns 1 | 3 | 5 | 7.
So, I would hold all 1 | 3 | 5 | 7 to practice holding while hitting notes on 2 | 4 | 6 and getting feedback only on the Regular Columns.

Example of Backward Compatibility to Auto

Select a 8 key osu!mania map.
Turn on the Auto Mod.
Click "Reset" if Selective Auto is on, or do nothing if Selective Auto is off.
Start playing on the beatmap with Auto.
Press any columns if you'd like and watch osu!topus.

Interesting Things to Note

NoFail is not exactly equal because I only want feedback on the columns I play. If I miss a note, I know I'm not playing the selected keys well instead of ignoring other columns.

Last edited by FrenzyLi 2015-07-06T02:26:18+00:00, edited 27 times in total.

Bauxe

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Bauxe 2015-07-05T10:58:32+00:00

Couldn't you just nofail and only play the columns you want to play?

FrenzyLi

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Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

FrenzyLi 2015-07-05T11:01:45+00:00

Bauxe wrote:
Couldn't you just nofail and only play the columns you want to play?

Well, it's not the same thing. I can't use NoFail.

For one, if I only play those keys, notes on the other columns will be registered as miss.
For another, even if I only play those columns I want to play on, I don't know which column I missed-- is the one I play, or the others I don't want to play.

In sum, I want to get feedback only on the columns I play.

Bara-

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Bara- 2015-07-05T11:54:58+00:00

Delete those from the editor
Takes some time to delete those though >.<

-Maus-

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-Maus- 2015-07-05T12:15:25+00:00

How will it help you if you need to be able to play the whole map anyway

Evening

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Evening 2015-07-05T12:57:59+00:00

This is a pretty neat idea, considering maps which are mapped for 7+1 7+2 or 5+1 5+2 etc. those maps which have "special" key configurations will sometimes require platforms other than the keyboard to play properly. For example BMS files which tend to have scratch jacks that deem impossible for most players who only has a keyboard to play on. Other than that i personally can't find any other usage other than just using the mod to fool around, autoplaying some columns selectively will sometimes make the map itself really weird to play as most maps will have notes that feel missing, thus, kinda makes the map harder by having offbeat rhythms and what not.

Niroe

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Joined February 2015

Niroe 2015-07-05T19:27:41+00:00

Transformau5 wrote:
How will it help you if you need to be able to play the whole map anyway

Cuz if u learn the right of the map and the left of the map together, it will be more harder than split it and learn part per part

I m totally for this idea, and for those who recommend nofail, the problem is, if you put nofail u will dont have the sounds of the note you dont hit

And i think it can be a ranked mods, just need to delete the score of the auto mod column

FrenzyLi

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FrenzyLi 2015-07-05T22:22:53+00:00

Zenx wrote:
This is a pretty neat idea, considering maps which are mapped for 7+1 7+2 or 5+1 5+2 etc. those maps which have "special" key configurations will sometimes require platforms other than the keyboard to play properly. For example BMS files which tend to have scratch jacks that deem impossible for most players who only has a keyboard to play on. Other than that i personally can't find any other usage other than just using the mod to fool around, autoplaying some columns selectively will sometimes make the map itself really weird to play as most maps will have notes that feel missing, thus, kinda makes the map harder by having offbeat rhythms and what not.

Nice new potential use I've never thought of.

Well, the "AUTO" mod actually is "fooling around" in a sense too because you only get to watch the shape and flow of the notes and not actually hitting them. In that regard, Selective Auto might be annoying only because of offbeat rhythms due to playing only a selected columns, but silll has tremendous value on itself.

BTW: I've added your idea to the main thread. Does my edit make sense?

Transformau5 wrote:
How will it help you if you need to be able to play the whole map anyway

Isolate part of the map. Remember that gradual practice makes perfection.

baraatje123 wrote:
Delete those from the editor
Takes some time to delete those though >.<

Yeah, it takes a lot of time.

Niroe wrote:
Transformau5 wrote:
How will it help you if you need to be able to play the whole map anyway
Cuz if u learn the right of the map and the left of the map together, it will be more harder than split it and learn part per part

I m totally for this idea, and for those who recommend nofail, the problem is, if you put nofail u will dont have the sounds of the note you dont hit

And i think it can be a ranked mods, just need to delete the score of the auto mod column

The potential combo break due to, missing notes on the auto column is significant.
If AUTO was on, you don't want to see osu!topus get a 0 score, do you?