My aiming speed changes based on the BPM of the song and how fast I have to singletap, and my aiming is synced to my tapping which is why I either get 99% or fail
Yeah aiming is a rhythm skill
Yeah aiming is a rhythm skill
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Reading is tied to tapping, and is tied to aiming. I'm not referring to reading though; I'm talking about pure aiming skill. If you misjudged the distance you need to move your hand to target a circle, but you tapped accurately within the given hit window, would you consider yourself rhythmically inept? I don't think you would.Brian OA wrote:
Considering you have to do it with the beat in mind, yeah
I was exaggerating earlier, in a light hearted fashion. Yes, the game revolves around rhythm, I agree to that. But as you said, it emphasizes combo (and aiming) over accuracy. And for a rhythm game, it sure as hell is forgiving on accuracy. You got a full combo? Good, you are rewarded more than someone who broke at some point regardless of your accuracy.Brian OA wrote:
I know it's hard to consider this a rhythm game since the rankings and scoreboard are based on combo more than accuracy, but the rhythm is essential to the game and every gameplay mechanic revolves around it.
Anyway, I understand your point of view guys. Not looking to discredit you, that's just my take on things.
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Oh god, what happened to this thread? It got derailed pretty hard.
But you can't abstract them like that. The aiming portion of osu! is just as integral as the coordination involved in taiko or beatmania. In either case you could have the rhythm down, but you'd still have to make sure your aim works or your fingers respond appropriately because that's what the game's about. I think any rhythm game would demand more than just rhythm skills.Kaienyuu wrote:
Reading is tied to tapping, and is tied to aiming. I'm not referring to reading though; I'm talking about pure aiming skill. If you misjudged the distance you need to move your hand to target a circle, but you tapped accurately within the given hit window, would you consider yourself rhythmically inept? I don't think you would.
The meta, score system, and ranking system's priorities shouldn't affect what the game is in essence. Yeah, all those pretty much push for a speed and aim game, but you can't develop any of those even marginally without incorporating rhythm into them. Add the fact that you're free to play the game however you want, and I'd say the emphasis means jack shit to the definition of a rhythm game.Kaienyuu wrote:
Yes, the game revolves around rhythm, I agree to that. But as you said, it emphasizes combo (and aiming) over accuracy. And for a rhythm game, it sure as hell is forgiving on accuracy. You got a full combo? Good, you are rewarded more than someone who broke at some point regardless of your accuracy.
But you know what? That's just my definition and set of values of talking. If you disagree with those, I guess there's nothing else to be said except go eat a dick because my opinion is right muhfugguh
noKaienyuu wrote:
now let me shitpost and burn brain cells in peace niggas godamn thinking is hard
Did you miss the subforum section name on your way over here?Syphist wrote:
Oh god, what happened to this thread? It got derailed pretty hard.
hey fuck you this was the last serious post you're getting out of meBrian OA wrote:
noKaienyuu wrote:
now let me shitpost and burn brain cells in peace niggas godamn thinking is hard
you tooBrian OA wrote:
go eat a dick
That is true...Kaienyuu wrote:
it's offtopic, what did you expect
Don't play this game to avoid having to aimYoeri wrote:
Play touchscreen to avoid having to aim
you can definitely play the game and still not have aim. source: meKaienyuu wrote:
Don't play this game to avoid having to aimYoeri wrote:
Play touchscreen to avoid having to aim
edit: oh, TO aim
osu! is a rythm/aiming and reading game. I find that mania and the games that it's derived from function much better as rhythm games, you're a lot more immersed in the music when playing them. Especially when there's lovely custom hitsounds.
Not to mention that it's way harder to be accurate. Trying to get perfect 300's on OD7 on the simplest beat feels like OD10.5 on standard.
Not to mention that it's way harder to be accurate. Trying to get perfect 300's on OD7 on the simplest beat feels like OD10.5 on standard.
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PREACH IT. Multiplayer is literally wait for your opponent to mess up simulatorRedPanda wrote:
it would be a rhythm game if it was accuracy based.
as it stands, it's a combo based whack-a-mole-waifu simulator which says a big fat fuck you if you get a miss half way through
sounds like Street Fighterballdoowell wrote:
Multiplayer is literally wait for your opponent to mess up simulator
or every competitive multiplayer game ever.Friendan wrote:
sounds like Street Fighterballdoowell wrote:
Multiplayer is literally wait for your opponent to mess up simulator
not competitive Mario PartyRiince wrote:
or every competitive multiplayer game ever.
welcome to taikoballdoowell wrote:
osu! is literally the only rhythm game I know of besides beatmania that has hitsounds
I don't mind having hitsounds. Not having them confuses me a lot. My account drops significantly if the hitsounds aren't louder than the music. It helps me getting the rhythm if the song. But I play only nornal difficulty with HD DT and HR sooooo it may be different to me.
Shohei Ohtani
More like, people dont even know what osu! Takatae ouendan is.Reditum wrote:
I think sometimes people forget that osu! Is a computer port of osu! Takatae ouedan / Elite Beat Agents
Regardless of other games, thats what the source material used, so when developing the game, it was only logical to add hitsounds to be closer to the source material.
Please enjoy keyboard hitsound
This fantastic opinion of yours based on absolutely nothingChoofers wrote:
anyone and everyone that holds this opinion has shitty ears
you never need hitsounds to get a feel of the rhythm, if you need your hand held to listen to music in a music game then you're fucking bad
Non-sequitur as fuckChoofers wrote:
osu! is literally the only rhythm game I know of besides beatmania that has hitsounds
beatmania uses keysounds, not hitsounds
hitsounds are arbitrary
keysounds are not
Mercurial
Most hitsounds are shit but I have ones I like
Also if I can't hear my hitsounds my acc is dumpster tier, like 97%
Also if I can't hear my hitsounds my acc is dumpster tier, like 97%
Mercurial
how do string instruments workKaienyuu wrote:
Do you consider aiming to be a rhythm skill?Riince wrote:
there's more qualities of performances than accuracy in osu! even in regards to rhythm skill
usually by holding down a specific set of strings in a certain way and striking at it through some means, which, coupled with the tension in the string, cause vibrations to resound throughout the cavity of the instrument, generating sound which is only possible by giving Brian OA pictures of your roommate's girlfriend holy shit man why are you torturing me with thisthelewa wrote:
how do string instruments work
Probably because you don't use soft-hitwhistle as normal-hitwhistle in your skin?Mercurial wrote:
I fucking hate whistles.
It's no use turning off hitsounds if the game is a rhythm game. Mappers won't appreciate you turning off the hitsounds because they work on it as much as they work on the object placements. If you're playing THIS game JUST for scoring high, accuracy or score or even combo, you won't enjoy the game to the fullest.
Put on an Audeze or Sennheiser before saying this (can you buy the Audeze LCD3?)Choofers wrote:
anyone and everyone that holds this opinion has shitty earsa1l2d3r4e5d6 wrote:
It's a rhythm game. You need hitsounds to get a feel of the rhythm.
YOU have those ears if you don't like hitsounds blending with the music. I actually changed the custom hitsound in Ai to Bonnou to Rinne to Joushiki no Gokusai Sekai to make it blend more with the song (Cherry Blossom I sent the hitsound), the change made it tastier for my ears (I'm close to an audiophile but I'm not - I can tell the difference between 320kbps and 1088kbps I think). Rhythm isn't only entertainment for your body in case of the likes of Pump It Up and DDR / your hands in the case of beatmania IIDX and osu!, but your ears too, since you listen to the music and hit the notes to the music, which trigger sounds that blend with the music itself. NO USE TURNING HITSOUNDS OFF.
tl;dr Your soul cannot taste rhythm by hitting to the music without hitsounds that blend with the song.
If you have anything against this, call me and we'll settle this.
how do first person shooters workthelewa wrote:
how do string instruments workKaienyuu wrote:
Do you consider aiming to be a rhythm skill?
I went from 94% to 99% accuracy after changing my hitsound volume to 80% with 30% music volume. Therefore hitsounds > no hitsounds
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Hooray for anecdotes!