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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年7月3日 at 12:49:35

Artist: Ray
Title: ebb and flow(TV Size)
Source: 凪のあすから
Tags: Nagi no Asukara opening Ray
BPM: 106
Filesize: 11810kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.24 stars, 60 notes)
  2. Hard (2.5 stars, 177 notes)
  3. Normal (1.72 stars, 122 notes)
Download: Ray - ebb and flow(TV Size)
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Easy-Done by me
Normal-Done by me
Hard-Done by me

1st map.
For Nagi and the mind under the deep sea.

Thanks for everyone who mod this map.
Narcissu
騙頂看見的…… :?

一般音樂都是按長白線區分段落,也就是00:18:701 - 這種地方習慣加NC,放圈或者滑條並且放跳之類來強調一下

按下ctrl+a 全選所有物件來查看分佈情況,儘量讓它均勻一點

其他的細節可以參考 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/329145
Topic Starter
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Narcissu wrote:

騙頂看見的…… :?

一般音樂都是按長白線區分段落,也就是00:18:701 - 這種地方習慣加NC,放圈或者滑條並且放跳之類來強調一下

按下ctrl+a 全選所有物件來查看分佈情況,儘量讓它均勻一點

其他的細節可以參考 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/329145
我把长白线上的note做了改动,并适当地加了一些跳。
不过想请教一下怎么修图才能使得物件安放的均匀呢?
Mollon
mod request accepted!
这里是我的mod~

easy
00:07:376 (1,1) - 这个间距对easy来说可能有点小,最好至少隔2拍
01:13:036 (1) - 折点放中间 圆一点更好看
01:24:357 (4) - 这种折返一次以上的滑条在easy里似乎是不允许的,改一下
01:26:337 (1) - 转盘的结尾一声有点突兀,用绿线5%声音把末尾声音消一下 其他难度同理

normal
属于个人喜好。。这种note间似贴非贴有点怪,觉得贴上最好,建议看一下kwan的normal diff。
00:14:734 (1,2) - 把2调整一下头向1 看上去flow更顺一点
00:18:696 (2,3) - 同上
00:29:451 (4,5) - 往左上一点
00:56:621 (7) - 下一点

advanced
00:32:280 (1,2) - blanket
00:40:771 (8) - 这藏的有点坑阿
00:56:620 (3,4) - 这种跨滑条的跳有点多,可能其他难度里也有,这应该属于个人喜好不过还是建议调整一下增加多样性,比如三角或者其他形状
01:08:224 (4) - 往上一点点
01:09:356 (6,7) - blanket
01:26:195 (1) - 转盘的起点?

hard
感觉不用ar8... 7.5够了
00:43:318 (6) - 形状有点怪
01:10:205 (6) - 往右一点
01:12:752 (5,6) - 这种都不太顺

nice map!歌也很好听
Topic Starter
searchingfor

Mollon wrote:

mod request accepted!
这里是我的mod~

easy
00:07:376 (1,1) - 这个间距对easy来说可能有点小,最好至少隔2拍
01:13:036 (1) - 折点放中间 圆一点更好看
01:24:357 (4) - 这种折返一次以上的滑条在easy里似乎是不允许的,改一下
01:26:337 (1) - 转盘的结尾一声有点突兀,用绿线5%声音把末尾声音消一下 其他难度同理

normal
属于个人喜好。。这种note间似贴非贴有点怪,觉得贴上最好,建议看一下kwan的normal diff。
00:14:734 (1,2) - 把2调整一下头向1 看上去flow更顺一点
00:18:696 (2,3) - 同上
00:29:451 (4,5) - 往左上一点
00:56:621 (7) - 下一点

advanced
00:32:280 (1,2) - blanket
00:40:771 (8) - 这藏的有点坑阿
00:56:620 (3,4) - 这种跨滑条的跳有点多,可能其他难度里也有,这应该属于个人喜好不过还是建议调整一下增加多样性,比如三角或者其他形状
01:08:224 (4) - 往上一点点
01:09:356 (6,7) - blanket
01:26:195 (1) - 转盘的起点?

hard
感觉不用ar8... 7.5够了
00:43:318 (6) - 形状有点怪
01:10:205 (6) - 往右一点
01:12:752 (5,6) - 这种都不太顺

nice map!歌也很好听
改了一下图。
每一个难度结尾转盘也都已消音。
且各难度中几个需要微调位置的也有改动。

Easy难度按照你说的改过了,这基本都是必须要改的。
至于其他的难度的话......Normal改了一下间距之后很多的地方几乎都翻转重做了,所以上面指出的可能被忽略,也可能出现了新的问题。
Advanced的话,两处blanket没有改,因为不知道blanket是否有作图技巧,如果用肉眼看的话会很不准确。
此外改了几个跳并调整了转盘起点。改掉了那个坑......我自己打着也觉得好坑......
Hard难度改成了ar7.5,滑条形状改成了最基础的弯滑条。目前对做出各种形状的滑条还很困惑。

谢谢你认真的mod!
Mollon

searchingfor wrote:

Mollon wrote:

mod request accepted!
这里是我的mod~

easy
00:07:376 (1,1) - 这个间距对easy来说可能有点小,最好至少隔2拍
01:13:036 (1) - 折点放中间 圆一点更好看
01:24:357 (4) - 这种折返一次以上的滑条在easy里似乎是不允许的,改一下
01:26:337 (1) - 转盘的结尾一声有点突兀,用绿线5%声音把末尾声音消一下 其他难度同理

normal
属于个人喜好。。这种note间似贴非贴有点怪,觉得贴上最好,建议看一下kwan的normal diff。
00:14:734 (1,2) - 把2调整一下头向1 看上去flow更顺一点
00:18:696 (2,3) - 同上
00:29:451 (4,5) - 往左上一点
00:56:621 (7) - 下一点

advanced
00:32:280 (1,2) - blanket
00:40:771 (8) - 这藏的有点坑阿
00:56:620 (3,4) - 这种跨滑条的跳有点多,可能其他难度里也有,这应该属于个人喜好不过还是建议调整一下增加多样性,比如三角或者其他形状
01:08:224 (4) - 往上一点点
01:09:356 (6,7) - blanket
01:26:195 (1) - 转盘的起点?

hard
感觉不用ar8... 7.5够了
00:43:318 (6) - 形状有点怪
01:10:205 (6) - 往右一点
01:12:752 (5,6) - 这种都不太顺

nice map!歌也很好听
改了一下图。
每一个难度结尾转盘也都已消音。
且各难度中几个需要微调位置的也有改动。

Easy难度按照你说的改过了,这基本都是必须要改的。
至于其他的难度的话......Normal改了一下间距之后很多的地方几乎都翻转重做了,所以上面指出的可能被忽略,也可能出现了新的问题。
Advanced的话,两处blanket没有改,因为不知道blanket是否有作图技巧,如果用肉眼看的话会很不准确。
此外改了几个跳并调整了转盘起点。改掉了那个坑......我自己打着也觉得好坑......
Hard难度改成了ar7.5,滑条形状改成了最基础的弯滑条。目前对做出各种形状的滑条还很困惑。

谢谢你认真的mod!
不嫌我水就好。。改过的话就重新传一下吧,我会在这两天再看一下改过的~
Topic Starter
searchingfor

Mollon wrote:

不嫌我水就好。。改过的话就重新传一下吧,我会在这两天再看一下改过的~
好的,再次感谢
Mollon

searchingfor wrote:

Mollon wrote:

不嫌我水就好。。改过的话就重新传一下吧,我会在这两天再看一下改过的~
好的,再次感谢
重新看了一下
general
音效声音太大啦,我觉得我的图曲子都够安详了。。这个更安详,所以就把音效调小一点吧~

easy
结尾转盘还是没消诶。说的用绿线消音指的是在转盘的尾巴地方插一根绿线,然后把声音设定为5%。其他转盘尾部的修改方式也一样~

normal
00:48:130 (1) - 转盘尾
41s左右起的这个break后面,easy都放了滑条做节奏 normal就别省吧。。
其他都挺好的

advanced
00:07:941 (1) - 转盘尾不要放finish音,这种曲风放clap已经感觉有点突兀了
00:33:412 (3,4,5) - 可以调整一小下4的位置让间距看上去均匀一点
00:48:129 (1) - 同上
01:00:016 (3,4,5) - 节奏上来听 4和5互换比较好 另外就是这个跳有点突兀,要不就统一一下kiai段的跳,只有这一个这么远有点奇怪。
01:26:337 (1) - 滑条尾的位置往前1/4拍
两个blanket看了一下,确实是看上去包的不圆,这个没啥特别技巧,拖滑条包的看上去圆就好了。

hard
00:48:130 (1) - 转盘尾

音效确实很难下。。加油啊~
_handholding
hi from my modding queue

[hard]
00:14:734 (1) - add clap
00:15:016 (2) - delete clap from slider and body! Add clap at 00:15:016

[advanced]
01:09:639 (7) - blanket could do with a fix

[Normal]
00:07:659 (1) - delete clap and add finish, just like you have done with your otherr diffs
01:02:281 (2) - delete NC

idk if its cos I've modded 50 maps in the past 2 days but I couldnt find very much

Anyways, I hope this mod was useful, GL
Topic Starter
searchingfor

Mollon wrote:

重新看了一下
general
音效声音太大啦,我觉得我的图曲子都够安详了。。这个更安详,所以就把音效调小一点吧~

easy
结尾转盘还是没消诶。说的用绿线消音指的是在转盘的尾巴地方插一根绿线,然后把声音设定为5%。其他转盘尾部的修改方式也一样~

normal
00:48:130 (1) - 转盘尾
41s左右起的这个break后面,easy都放了滑条做节奏 normal就别省吧。。
其他都挺好的

advanced
00:07:941 (1) - 转盘尾不要放finish音,这种曲风放clap已经感觉有点突兀了
00:33:412 (3,4,5) - 可以调整一小下4的位置让间距看上去均匀一点
00:48:129 (1) - 同上
01:00:016 (3,4,5) - 节奏上来听 4和5互换比较好 另外就是这个跳有点突兀,要不就统一一下kiai段的跳,只有这一个这么远有点奇怪。
01:26:337 (1) - 滑条尾的位置往前1/4拍
两个blanket看了一下,确实是看上去包的不圆,这个没啥特别技巧,拖滑条包的看上去圆就好了。

hard
00:48:130 (1) - 转盘尾

音效确实很难下。。加油啊~
关于转盘,上一次改的时候是把绿线插在了转盘头所以并没有起到作用......
我把每个难度的声音降至35%,00:48:130 (1)的转盘尾也消了音。
Normal难度的break后面加了两个滑条做节奏。
Advanced难度中提到的几处都做了改动......除了blanket......
现在就是音效和blanket还做不好。

总之谢谢你的mod!
Topic Starter
searchingfor

Hi Im Nathan wrote:

hi from my modding queue

[hard]
00:14:734 (1) - add clap
00:15:016 (2) - delete clap from slider and body! Add clap at 00:15:016

[advanced]
01:09:639 (7) - blanket could do with a fix

[Normal]
00:07:659 (1) - delete clap and add finish, just like you have done with your otherr diffs
01:02:281 (2) - delete NC

idk if its cos I've modded 50 maps in the past 2 days but I couldnt find very much

Anyways, I hope this mod was useful, GL
00:07:659 I delete clap and finish and just use whistle on the spinners in every diffs.
In Normal,I delete 01:02:281 NC.
In Advanced,I am bad at blanket which can't surround the note.
In Hard,I added clap on 00:14:734 (1).But I'm sorry about that I didn't understand your means,should I delete clap on 00:15:016?

But anyway,thank you for your modding.It's my first map,so I think every advice is useful.
Thanks again!
Lily Bread
首先建议你去弄一套自定义音效,现在的有点太吵了。

[Easy]
01:12:470 (5,1) - 这种的要么包好来,要么就不要包,不然挺难看的..3
懒写,直接引用我以前的摸吧
如何做blanket
【1】look at the approach circle of - 00:04:271 (3) - .
http://image17-c.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20150930/14/17820113020150930140424079.png?575x525_130

【2】change 2's shape and position according to it.
http://image17-c.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20150930/14/17820113020150930140456047.png?509x498_130
【3】then adjust DS.

do 3 steps above to improve all of your blanket.
01:19:829 (1) - 我一般不在意NC(new combo)的问题,不过这种的是不是确实有问题?
一般不这样用。

[Normal]
检查AImod。关于DS。
normal和EASY通常是要完全DS的,所以都要改掉

00:50:395 (1,2) - 这种可以互相包好

[Advanced]
看起来没什么大问题。

[Hard]
00:10:206 (1) - 强烈建议拆成两个1/4滑条..这个BPM的HARD用1/4滑条不过分

其它的..好像没什么好说的,涉及个人喜好的就不说了。
不会麻烦呀..我只是来水摸骗KD
Topic Starter
searchingfor

Lily Bread wrote:

首先建议你去弄一套自定义音效,现在的有点太吵了。

[Easy]
01:12:470 (5,1) - 这种的要么包好来,要么就不要包,不然挺难看的..3
懒写,直接引用我以前的摸吧
如何做blanket
【1】look at the approach circle of - 00:04:271 (3) - .
http://image17-c.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20150930/14/17820113020150930140424079.png?575x525_130

【2】change 2's shape and position according to it.
http://image17-c.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20150930/14/17820113020150930140456047.png?509x498_130
【3】then adjust DS.

do 3 steps above to improve all of your blanket.
01:19:829 (1) - 我一般不在意NC(new combo)的问题,不过这种的是不是确实有问题?
一般不这样用。

[Normal]
检查AImod。关于DS。
normal和EASY通常是要完全DS的,所以都要改掉

00:50:395 (1,2) - 这种可以互相包好

[Advanced]
看起来没什么大问题。

[Hard]
00:10:206 (1) - 强烈建议拆成两个1/4滑条..这个BPM的HARD用1/4滑条不过分

其它的..好像没什么好说的,涉及个人喜好的就不说了。
不会麻烦呀..我只是来水摸骗KD
关于音效,已经用了自定义的一套,感觉听起来不太吵,个人感觉至少比之前的要好
Easy的NC和Normal的DS都调过了,Hard的开头也已经拆成了两个四分之一滑条
关于blanket也调过了

感谢你的mod,尤其是那套blanket的作法真的是很实用
谢谢
Wingmann
Hello! Map looks really good in my eyes, could barely find any problems.

Easy:

00:36:810 (4) - Slider is a bit close to the bottom of the screen
01:15:300 (3,4) - Too many claps in my opinion
01:19:829 (1) - Combo change looks a bit odd, but that's just me

Normal:

Couldn't find anything gameplay-wise so here are some hitsounds :P
00:37:659 (2) - Maybe give this one a clap
00:37:942 (3) - and remove the clap from this one?
00:52:658 (1) - Clap sounds ok here
01:16:998 (4) - Clap?
Otherwise, hitsounds are exactly where I expected them to be!

Hard:

00:52:658 (1) - Might i suggest adding claps to this slider?
00:55:771 (7) - Slider seems a bit far off the editor grid imo
01:05:960 (5) - I think you should move this slider to somewhere like x:76 7:322

That's all I can see, apologies for bad mod :c
Good luck with ranking!
Topic Starter
searchingfor

Wingmann wrote:

Hello! Map looks really good in my eyes, could barely find any problems.

Easy:

00:36:810 (4) - Slider is a bit close to the bottom of the screen
01:15:300 (3,4) - Too many claps in my opinion
01:19:829 (1) - Combo change looks a bit odd, but that's just me

Normal:

Couldn't find anything gameplay-wise so here are some hitsounds :P
00:37:659 (2) - Maybe give this one a clap
00:37:942 (3) - and remove the clap from this one?
00:52:658 (1) - Clap sounds ok here
01:16:998 (4) - Clap?
Otherwise, hitsounds are exactly where I expected them to be!

Hard:

00:52:658 (1) - Might i suggest adding claps to this slider?
00:55:771 (7) - Slider seems a bit far off the editor grid imo
01:05:960 (5) - I think you should move this slider to somewhere like x:76 7:322

That's all I can see, apologies for bad mod :c
Good luck with ranking!
About Easy diff,I change the position ofsilder 00:36:810 (4).And delete the 01:15:300 (3) clap.
But I didn't change the Combo because I think maybe it's ok.

The all of problems of Normal diff are about hitsounds,and I changed them all.I'm so bad at hitsound.

In the Hard diff,I also change the hitsound.And the 00:55:771 (7) slider is moved in editor grid.
The slider 01:05:960 (5) is moved to x:76 y:320.It's looks better.

I think very modder can provide many good advice.So I am so appreciate for your mod.
Thanks a lot.
IamKwaN
你好,請記住每個modder於每個帖子只能拿取一次的KD,recheck / 貼上GD / metadata 並不能領取。
多給的我都幫你deny了,如果你有什麼問題,歡迎傳站內短信給我!
Topic Starter
searchingfor

IamKwaN wrote:

你好,請記住每個modder於每個帖子只能拿取一次的KD,recheck / 貼上GD / metadata 並不能領取。
多給的我都幫你deny了,如果你有什麼問題,歡迎傳站內短信給我!
好的知道了,谢谢提醒。
这么说可能有些失礼,但是如果有空的话可以帮我看看这张图吗?谢谢了。
IamKwaN
啊,我已經退出modding圈了,不好意思。
Topic Starter
searchingfor

IamKwaN wrote:

啊,我已經退出modding圈了,不好意思。
好吧......谢谢。
Prismetical
Heya! :3

Overall
- it seems like it is an anime, due to "(tv size)" so you may give the anime name in the source
- I am not sure, but you might get in trouble because your difficulties star ratings are very close together (not sure about that)

Easy
00:09:639 - may add a circle?
00:36:810 (4) - make it look better
- maybe wanna do something between 00:50:394 - and 00:52:092 - ... I would find it better :)

Normal looks great :D

Advanced
00:14:167 (1,1) - don't stack these two, they will make the player hurry
00:25:488 (6,7,1) - I don't like these stacking, especially between 7 and 1
- do something between 00:50:394 - and 00:52:092 - so much potential getting lost there
00:54:639 (4,1) - stacking :/
00:58:035 (6,1) - ^
01:08:224 (4,5) - ^
01:17:280 (5,1) - ^
01:19:828 (5,1) - ^
00:55:771 (2,3) - 3 is hard to see
01:21:809 (4) - make it better looking :)
01:22:941 (6) - ^

Hard
00:14:167 (3,1) - stacking :/
00:17:281 (8,1) - ^
00:20:961 (8,1,1) - ^
00:27:753 (2,1) - ^
00:40:771 (1,2) - ^
00:59:167 (6,1) - ^
01:01:715 (1,1) - ^
01:17:281 (4,5) - ^
01:21:809 (3,4) - ^
- do something between 00:50:394 - and 00:52:092 - so much potential getting lost there again
01:00:299 (2,3,4) - that is a rare part for that song and no one will see 3 and 4 coming so fast, maybe stack them?

Good luck on getting ranked.
If you have questions, you can always message me when I am online. :)
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