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Matsushita Yuya - Bird (TV Size)

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zyqzyq
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年8月23日 at 12:52:41

Artist: Matsushita Yuya
Title: Bird (TV Size)
Source: KuroShitsuji II
BPM: 136
Filesize: 18540kb
Play Time: 01:25
Difficulties Available:
  1. AkaShitsuji (2.48 stars, 107 notes)
  2. KuroShitsuji (4.86 stars, 203 notes)
  3. ShiroShitsuji (4.19 stars, 148 notes)
Download: Matsushita Yuya - Bird (TV Size)
Download: Matsushita Yuya - Bird (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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A very beautiful song from Kuroshitsuji2.
I know it's not so good,becasuse of my lack of experience in making maps.
I'll keep on improving it according to your advices.
I really hope it could be ranked.

1-set a preview point,change the title,add some hitsound and improve spacing,based on Colin Hou's modding.
2-make a change to the hitsound,and learn a lot about hitsound from Vikon.
3-according to Odaril's modding..I want to make sure the identification of three diffs.The first diff,akashitsuji,is easy+,I guess,harder than easy but easier than normal.And the second shiroshitsuji is normal,not hard.The last kuroshitsuji is hard,not insane..
4-make a little change to the color and skin..Also improve the slider part on the basis of lovhin456's modding.
5-Thanks Haneii for giving me a high-quality mp3, and the suggestion of KIAI TIME.
6-fix the BPM from 136.02 into 135.90,based on Azure_Kyte's modding.
7-according to NatsumeRin and Pokie's modding,fix some spacing and hitsound problems,remove almost all the 0.5x sliders...
8-map over the break..(sigh..) due to a lot of persons' suggestion.and make a little change to skins.
9-add the slidertick hitsound.
10-fix the timing as:BPM 136.00, offset 1128..THX to DJPop's timing help!
11-fix some unproper notes due to sakura301's modding.
12-make some changes to the skins according to Derekku's modding.
13-change the hitsound into whistle..before 00:27:598,decrease the hitsound to each beat one whistle.according to Alace's suggestion.
14-change the offset to 1120,according to lesjuh.
15-change the distancespacing of the 2nd diff from 0.8 to 1.
16-delete some unecessary timing section,according to James2250's modding.
mizuhoshi
=V=歌很好听啊,黑执事米粒=\=
Colin Hou
[General]:
  1. Source: KuroShitsuji II
  2. Title: Bird (TV Size) 注意大小写和空格
  3. 第一张BG分辨率好低 可能的话换一下吧
  4. 设置一个preview point, 而且所有难度的必须一样
[AkaShitsuji]:
  1. 这个摆放问题没问题 只是几乎没有hitsound嘛..
[ShiroShitsuji]:
  1. 00:47:621 (5,6) - 移到00:47:400
  2. 01:13:426 (1,2,3,4) - 3和4的间距很诡异
  3. 依然缺少hitsound
[KuroShitsuji]:
  1. 00:03:510 (3) - 换circle, 或者是延长到00:03:730
  2. 00:12:332 (1,2,3,4) - 1和2的间距
  3. 缺少hitsound 可以拿clap打打拍子 互动感是很重要的
关于改Title 参考下一个脑的帖子:http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=33919
Colin Hou
忘了说了 Tags里面的内容用空格隔开就可以 以及和Title Source重复的内容不必再写进去

no kds for this post.
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

Colin Hou wrote:

忘了说了 Tags里面的内容用空格隔开就可以 以及和Title Source重复的内容不必再写进去

no kds for this post.
哦。。
真是谢谢你啦~~
我正好刚改好。。
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

mukuhiba wrote:

=V=歌很好听啊,黑执事米粒==
超爱这歌~~o(≧v≦)o~~
谢谢你的star!
Vikon
[General]
1) 囧, scorebar-ki 是不是太大了, 超出畫面外了。
2) no tag~?
3) clap方面,你用得太頻密了,基本上,clap用來打拍子就足夠了: 每2條白線就加一個clap, 以kuroshitsuji中,01:00:634那裏為例,clap 只要加在01:00:634 (4) , (6)的第2,4個reverse,01:03:280 (3)的頭,如此類推就可以了,
現在聽到你每一條白線也加clap,個人覺得不太好聽。
再者,default clap不太適合這首柔和的歌,或參考一下這一種聲音,把附件解壓後放入file,然後把timing section 轉為 soft-Custome override 2 就可以用了 (用來打拍子,即每2條白線加一個就好了,不要濫用 :? ")

[Aka]
這個diff是沒BG的嗎?
00:14:758 (1) 或在 00:15:640 終止?
00:44:900 這個break很違和,感覺就像在一句還未完,但要強行休息一樣, 或刪除00:41:666 (1,2,3) , 使break 提早開始? (若覺得太長,或在00:48:724 開始map?)
01:17:616 (3) 在 01:18:278 終止? 然後把(4) 移至01:18:499 ?
01:21:145 (3) 在 01:21:807 終止? 然後把(4) 移至01:22:027 ?
01:25:777 (1) 加timing section,把spinner調至靜音會否較好?

[Shiro]
00:08:582 (2,3,4,5) 使人很混淆的spacing 囧
00:24:904 (5,6) 個人認為2x bpm不適合這部份
00:40:563 (7,8,1) spacing, 移開00:41:666 (1) 一點?
00:53:135 (1) 在00:52:252 開始?
01:21:145 (1,2,3,4) spacing
01:24:454 (1) 變靜音?

[Kuro]
00:42:107 (1) del這個slider,使break變長 ? (與aka同理由)
01:25:777 (1) 靜音化?

STAR~

Download: soft-hitclap2.rar
Topic Starter
zyqzyq
谢谢你啊,给我指出了这么多问题。。因为之前被说没有hitsound,所以就胡乱加了一通,果然是太乱来了!
中间的break确实有点硬加,可能是做了个section-pass的skin就想要用上吧。。下次不会再犯了!
第一张图我应该是加了BG的说。。而且变静音什么的情况好像也没出现过。。
总之,再次感谢你这么用心地帮我mod~~
Tatsuo
Hai, here's my mod~

[Overall]
Why is there no background set for [Akashitsuji]? Please get one.

[Akashitsuji]
Nothing to comment on this. Nice and easy difficulty you got here.

[Shiroshitsuji]
Good.

[Kuroshitsuji]
00:26:006 (3,5) - Maybe you could turn those sliders into triplets. I would personally like that better. But you don't have to.
00:41:225 (3,4) - Turn into a stream?
01:05:045 (2) - Triplet?


Good beatmap you got here. Have a star
*star*
Topic Starter
zyqzyq
Thank you so much for your star~~ :) :)
Maybe there's some unknown mistake,causing the BG's disappear.I'll check it later.
Thanks again!
Haneii
LOVE THIS SONG SOO MUCH. 3 am in the morning and I searched kuroshituji beatmaps because I was bored. Loved it! <3
I'm a huge kuroshitsuji fan (currently trying to get my second kuroshitsuji map ranked- kuroshitsuji 2 op shiver). I'll def mod your map as soon as I get free time :D, but for now ~STAR~ good job ;)
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

Haneii wrote:

LOVE THIS SONG SOO MUCH. 3 am in the morning and I searched kuroshituji beatmaps because I was bored. Loved it! <3
I'm a huge kuroshitsuji fan (currently trying to get my second kuroshitsuji map ranked- kuroshitsuji 2 op shiver). I'll def mod your map as soon as I get free time :D, but for now ~STAR~ good job ;)
Thank you so much for your star!
It's 3 pm here in China ~~
I also love kuroshitsuji to death,especially this ed song.I really wish it could be ranked.If so,it would be my first ranked map!
When I uploaded this map for the first time ,I noticed someone has posted kuroshitsuji 2 op at almost the same time,now I see,it's U!
What a coincidence! ;) ;)
Shiro
Major issues in the map: it is highly recommended to fix them.
Minor issue in the map: you don't have to follow them exactly, but I recommend you to.
Suggestions: those are personal opinions, feel free to follow them or not.
Comments.
If there's one red line in the whole mod post, or three blue lines, I won't star the map.

AkaShitsuji:
I'm guessing this is a Normal diff... ? Doesn't like an Easy. You should write in your first post what diffs those are.
00:13:214 (2,3,4) - Too hard for a Normal diff.
01:23:351 - Useless break, add in some notes.

ShiroShitsuji:
Hard diff ? Nothing to say.

KuroShitsuji:
Insane ?
00:09:465 (5) - Too close to previous object, don't do such anti jumps within the same combo when the rest of the combo was clearly well spaced.
00:16:522 (3) - ^
00:22:036 (2) - This one's hidden by the 300/100/50/miss of (4) and (5).
00:31:079 (1,2) - Reduce this jump a little.


Overall, nice map, with a nice skin (although the score figures are hard to see on that black background) and nice hitsounds.
Star.
Topic Starter
zyqzyq
Thank you for your modding and star~~~
I've improved the map according to your suggesion.
But the break is aimed to show the section-pass skin...uh,I really want to keep it,though needless.
Shirakawa Kotori
As the song is very nice and I do see your improving on your beatmap. So I am going to star this map. 8-)
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

ChrnoSaber wrote:

As the song is very nice and I do see your improving on your beatmap. So I am going to star this map. 8-)
吾辈说中文就行了。。
你签名果然很亮,应该弄个英文版的给狼狼看!
话说你是不是故意装得很专业? :o :o
Shirakawa Kotori

zyqzyq wrote:

ChrnoSaber wrote:

As the song is very nice and I do see your improving on your beatmap. So I am going to star this map. 8-)
吾辈说中文就行了。。
你签名果然很亮,应该弄个英文版的给狼狼看!
话说你是不是故意装得很专业? :o :o

好久没说英文了想练练QVQ
nott_old
好东西!对于新人来说不容易啦!赞个!
lovhin456
Hi! You requested my mod and I'm here!
- I love KuroShitsuji ~ <3
- All the stuff I tell you here are suggestions~
- This color means I'm not sure about it myself ~
- I'll probably mod your song in 2 or 1 post/s since my mods maybe very long or short, it depends~
General;
- Is the quality of the mp3 low or is the song like that ?? If is low then please get a better one because this is a nice song and the hitsounds are a bit too loud for the song and I can't hear very well.
- The blue for the color of the notes is a bit too bright...make it a bit darker.

AkaShitsuji;
- Hidden notes in easy+ are okk I guess but don't use too much~
- 00:01:084 (1) >> end this at the white tick 00:01:525
- 00:01:996 (2) >> move this to 00:01:745
- 00:02:848 >> end at 00:03:289
- 00:03:730 >> move to 00:03:510
- 00:04:612 >> end at 00:05:054
- 00:05:495 >> move to 00:05:274
- 00:11:450 >> end at 00:12:332
- 00:12:332 >> move to 00:12:552
- 00:20:713 >> delete a repetition
- 00:23:801 >> silence the end of the spinner
- 01:01:957 (4)(1) >> spacing
- 01:17:616 >> end at 01:18:499
- 01:18:499 >> move to 01:18:719
- 00:21:145 >> end at 01:22:027
- 01:22:027 >> move to 01:22:248
- 01:25:777 >> silence the end of this spinner
- Add kiai time at 00:29:315 end it at 00:34:167 // Add other kiai time at 00:55:781 and end it at 01:09:456
* More on my next post ~ // Star~
lovhin456
General;
- Some facts I forgot to mention~
- BG must be 1024 x 768 or...800 x 600 ~
- Delete osb file and full-sub ??
- Make the spinner approach circle black or grey or another color that's not the one you have now.
- Okk...that's an awesome skin~ !!
- I think that's it ~

ShiroShitsuji;
- Looks like hard to me...too many jumps I think~ (And yeah I read is actually normal) be careful with the spacing~
- 00:08:803 >> end at 00:09:244
- 00:22:698 >> remove finish hitsound
- 00:27:109 >> end at 00:27:550
- 01:24:454 >> silence the end of this spinner

KuroShitsuji;
- Looks like insane too me and once again yeah, I read is hard~ Careful with spacing~
- 01:25:777 >> silence the end of this spinner and end it at 00:28:865

* That's all~ Good luck with your map~ :D
Toonypie
Time to mod, here we go!

AkaShitsuji

Suggestions

(00:01:075) [Red 1, Blue 1, Gray 1] <Was this on purpose?> Make these last one white tick. (By shortening their ending points)
[For me, this is easier and better sounding than what it is now.]

(00:01:075) [Red 2, Blue 2, Gray 2] <same^> Put these at the red ticks right after their respective sliders.

No complains for this diff though.

ShiroShitsuji

Suggestions

(00:13:215) [3] Make the slider repeat at (00:13:430), (00:13:660), and end at (00:13:885)

KuroShitsuji

Nothing wrong here.

Mod done!

Great map, stars for all!
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

lovhin456 wrote:

SPOILER
Hi! You requested my mod and I'm here!
- I love KuroShitsuji ~ <3
- All the stuff I tell you here are suggestions~
- This color means I'm not sure about it myself ~
- I'll probably mod your song in 2 or 1 post/s since my mods maybe very long or short, it depends~
General;
- Is the quality of the mp3 low or is the song like that ?? If is low then please get a better one because this is a nice song and the hitsounds are a bit too loud for the song and I can't hear very well.
- The blue for the color of the notes is a bit too bright...make it a bit darker.

AkaShitsuji;
- Hidden notes in easy+ are okk I guess but don't use too much~
- 00:01:084 (1) >> end this at the white tick 00:01:525
- 00:01:996 (2) >> move this to 00:01:745
- 00:02:848 >> end at 00:03:289
- 00:03:730 >> move to 00:03:510
- 00:04:612 >> end at 00:05:054
- 00:05:495 >> move to 00:05:274
- 00:11:450 >> end at 00:12:332
- 00:12:332 >> move to 00:12:552
- 00:20:713 >> delete a repetition
- 00:23:801 >> silence the end of the spinner
- 01:01:957 (4)(1) >> spacing
- 01:17:616 >> end at 01:18:499
- 01:18:499 >> move to 01:18:719
- 00:21:145 >> end at 01:22:027
- 01:22:027 >> move to 01:22:248
- 01:25:777 >> silence the end of this spinner
- Add kiai time at 00:29:315 end it at 00:34:167 // Add other kiai time at 00:55:781 and end it at 01:09:456
* More on my next post ~ // Star~
Thank you for your modding and star~~it really helps.
I've modified the map as you say..But there're some items I'm not very sure,It doesn't matter if keep original...
- 00:20:713 >> delete a repetition
- 01:01:957 (4)(1) >> spacing
Anyway,it is really appreciate!Thank you again~~
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

Toonypie wrote:

SPOILER
Time to mod, here we go!

AkaShitsuji

Suggestions

(00:01:075) [Red 1, Blue 1, Gray 1] <Was this on purpose?> Make these last one white tick. (By shortening their ending points)
[For me, this is easier and better sounding than what it is now.]

(00:01:075) [Red 2, Blue 2, Gray 2] <same^> Put these at the red ticks right after their respective sliders.

No complains for this diff though.

ShiroShitsuji

Suggestions

(00:13:215) [3] Make the slider repeat at (00:13:430), (00:13:660), and end at (00:13:885)

KuroShitsuji

Nothing wrong here.

Mod done!

Great map, stars for all!
Thanks you for your modding and star~~
It's pretty helpful!
lovhin456

zyqzyq wrote:

Thank you for your modding and star~~it really helps.
I've modified the map as you say..But there're some items I'm not very sure,It doesn't matter if keep original...
- 00:20:713 >> delete a repetition
- 01:01:957 (4)(1) >> spacing
Anyway,it is really appreciate!Thank you again~~
No problem~ :D also just to clear things up, the difficulties are shown as easy (AkaShitsuji), hard (ShiroShitsuji) and insane (KuroShitsuji) not like you want I guess, so you may need to fix this :?
Haneii
Said I would Mod...but guess what...couldn't find anything technically wrong with it (yay! :D)

One thing that bothered me was the quality of the mp3. Here's a better one:
Download: BIRD.mp3
You don't have to use it, its up to you

Another thing I noticed was there is no kiai time :’( - maybe you can have the first kiai time at 00:29:315-00:41:335 and the second one at 00:57:546-01:09:566. edit: I STRONGLY SUGGEST THE KIAI TIME....you have a wonderful skin (those butterflies...and I want to see them FLY! XD).....if you do consider kiai time i suggest to remove the lightning..I think it's a little too much, although this is just a suggestion.


Good luck :D
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

Haneii wrote:

Said I would Mod...but guess what...couldn't find anything technically wrong with it (yay! :D)

One thing that bothered me was the quality of the mp3. Here's a better one:
[attachment=0:368d2]BIRD.mp3[/attachment:368d2]
You don't have to use it, its up to you

Another thing I noticed was there is no kiai time :’( - maybe you can have the first kiai time at 00:29:315-00:41:335 and the second one at 00:57:546-01:09:566. edit: I STRONGLY SUGGEST THE KIAI TIME....you have a wonderful skin (those butterflies...and I want to see them FLY! XD).....if you do consider kiai time i suggest to remove the lightning..I think it's a little too much, although this is just a suggestion.


Good luck :D
Welcome!!
The quality of the song also bothers me..THX~~
Since you've praised my butterflies so much,I'll definitely let them fly!! :) :)
you too,Good luck!
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

lovhin456 wrote:

No problem~ :D also just to clear things up, the difficulties are shown as easy (AkaShitsuji), hard (ShiroShitsuji) and insane (KuroShitsuji) not like you want I guess, so you may need to fix this :?
Actually,since first editing this map,I'm not sure about the diff...I mean when I finally realized it's too hard for easy diff or too easy for hard diff,it has been finished..Then I don't know how to fix it.
May I change the song information,or have to rework each map?
lovhin456

zyqzyq wrote:

lovhin456 wrote:

No problem~ :D also just to clear things up, the difficulties are shown as easy (AkaShitsuji), hard (ShiroShitsuji) and insane (KuroShitsuji) not like you want I guess, so you may need to fix this :?
Actually,since first editing this map,I'm not sure about the diff...I mean when I finally realized it's too hard for easy diff or too easy for hard diff,it has been finished..Then I don't know how to fix it.
May I change the song information,or have to rework each map?
Well, I don't really know how to change the diff, maybe...less notes ?? I don't know but as long as you say something is something then I guess is okk ~ don't worry :)
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

lovhin456 wrote:

Well, I don't really know how to change the diff, maybe...less notes ?? I don't know but as long as you say something is something then I guess is okk ~ don't worry :)
Fine..I wish it wouldn't be a big problem...Anyway,when others playing the map,the see the diff title as "akashitsuji" or something,they won't know how hard it is until they finish playing them..There must be someone think the diff fit.
:o Oh my poor English,even myself have no idea what I mean....
Anyway,THX again~~ ;) ;)
Azure_Kite
Here's my mod

Blue = Suggestion Red = Check this

[Overall]
-Timing feels a little fast. I suggest changing BPM to 135.90 .
-Once you do this, resnap all notes (Timing > Resnap all Notes)
-Repeat these steps with all difficulties.

- I noticed that the notes trail off the timing near the end of the song doing this, so check around 01:04:65 to make sure notes aren't on blue ticks. If they are, just select from that section to the end and move it forward 1/4 beat

[AkaShitsuji]
Make the timing fixes before changing any of this

- Since this is the easiest difficulty, spacing should be consistent. Some of the notes are close together physically but are a long way away timing wise. Enable Distance Snap and go through the map correcting this, please.
00:08:810 (4) - I suggest shortening this by 1/2 a beat, then putting the note after it back 1/2 a beat
00:41:702 - This break really ruins the atmosphere, especially since this is a relatively short map. Please map over it.


[ShiroShitsuji]
Make the timing fixes before changing any of this

00:27:151 (2) - Timing is halved without any warning whatsoever, which makes it really hard to tell which is a slow slider and what isn't. Please either storyboard a warning, ask somebody to do it (I wouldn't mind) or remove the 0.5x timing section.
00:36:430 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I like this style, in future do this more :)
00:48:359 - please map over this break~

[KuroShitsuji]
Make the timing fixes before changing any of this

00:01:083 (1) - This 1/4 note slider doesn't fit. Extend it by 1/2 to make it work
00:02:850 (1) - This 1/4 note slider doesn't fit. Extend it by 1/2 to make it work

Make sure you warn people when a half speed slider or double speed slider is coming

00:42:143 - Please map this break~
00:58:258 (4) - Note here?


For a first map, this isn't too shabby. Keep up the good effort :D
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

Azure_Kyte wrote:

SPOILER
Here's my mod

Blue = Suggestion Red = Check this

[Overall]
-Timing feels a little fast. I suggest changing BPM to 135.90 .
-Once you do this, resnap all notes (Timing > Resnap all Notes)
-Repeat these steps with all difficulties.

- I noticed that the notes trail off the timing near the end of the song doing this, so check around 01:04:65 to make sure notes aren't on blue ticks. If they are, just select from that section to the end and move it forward 1/4 beat

[AkaShitsuji]
Make the timing fixes before changing any of this

- Since this is the easiest difficulty, spacing should be consistent. Some of the notes are close together physically but are a long way away timing wise. Enable Distance Snap and go through the map correcting this, please.
00:08:810 (4) - I suggest shortening this by 1/2 a beat, then putting the note after it back 1/2 a beat
00:41:702 - This break really ruins the atmosphere, especially since this is a relatively short map. Please map over it.


[ShiroShitsuji]
Make the timing fixes before changing any of this

00:27:151 (2) - Timing is halved without any warning whatsoever, which makes it really hard to tell which is a slow slider and what isn't. Please either storyboard a warning, ask somebody to do it (I wouldn't mind) or remove the 0.5x timing section.
00:36:430 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I like this style, in future do this more :)
00:48:359 - please map over this break~

[KuroShitsuji]
Make the timing fixes before changing any of this

00:01:083 (1) - This 1/4 note slider doesn't fit. Extend it by 1/2 to make it work
00:02:850 (1) - This 1/4 note slider doesn't fit. Extend it by 1/2 to make it work

Make sure you warn people when a half speed slider or double speed slider is coming

00:42:143 - Please map this break~
00:58:258 (4) - Note here?


For a first map, this isn't too shabby. Keep up the good effort :D
Quite thanks for your BPM~~It helps!
In the term of the break..actually,I just want to show the section-pass skin...I know it's not a good reason,I'll think it over seriously.If someone else also feels the break quite unnecessary,I'll definitely map over it!
The sliders look better after fixed as you say,I used too much 0.5x bpm.It seems hard for me to remove them all,I'll try to make some tips to warn the speed changing.What about a small word "half" appearing near the slider when it reaches the 0.5x point?
And for this item,00:58:258 (4) - Note here...uh,I feel ok if keep unchanged.
Anyway, THX again!!
------------------------------------------------
I've fixed the BPM and some sliders,the WARNING costs time..I'm trying..it will be uploaded later.
Selee
NR好像在mod, 咱就只给星了 =w=
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
.osb文件没用到,删,重传。
因为有hitcircle和hitcircleoverlay,你还需要一个approachcircle.png。可以从皮肤里扒一个。
section-pass和规定大小不符合
你的soft-hitclap2声太大了。修低一些吧
修改音量/音效用的绿线不要压在note上而是要提前一些放置,以防玩家打快造成音效混乱。


[Aka]
spacing建议彻底重新查一遍。尤其是前面的
00:07:927 (2,3) - 比如这里
00:11:459 (3,1) - 再比如。。。
00:17:640 (2,3,4,5) - 再比如。。
00:55:830 (1,2,3,4) - 这里做一个渐强效果吧,每个note升一次音量就可
01:17:684 (3) - sliderwhistle消掉。在slider上加音效的时候不要偷懒直接点slider加,这样会改变slider的滑动音,要单点每拍加,后面不再提

[Shiro]
00:01:083 (1,2) - 很多slider比如这个,都可以拉的更好看些,试着用四个点来画slider吧。
00:28:015 (1,2,3,4) - 这串过难了。
00:43:026 (3,4,5,6) - 同,以及这个的附近应该是少加了不少clap
00:59:362 (1,2) - ……
01:23:423 (1,1) - 这很糟糕。。真的。。按星数看这只是个Normal,这个就太过分了。

[Kuro]
00:10:355 (1,2,3) - 理解不能,而且之后的同样形状也都遵守了spacing.
00:38:170 (1) - 建议不要finish.
00:40:819 (2,3) - spacing
00:55:388 (3,1) - ^
Pokie
General
  • - Open all osu files and add "Sliderborder : 0,0,0" under "[Colours]"

    - ...忘記能說中文了, 嗯..我覺得有必要降低整體音效音量
    - 中間的break map掉的話會更好._. 歌也不是很長呢
    - 另外請檢查你所有綠線在更改BPM後有沒有失效或是位置放的不好, 比如說有些原本要在note後面的綠線, 變成在note前面之類的

AkaShitsuji
  • - 如Rin所提到spacing...
    - clap部份我也聽不懂你是想要在1,3拍下還是2,4...而且也斷斷續續的, 希望下次不會出現這個狀況._.
00:18:523 (3,4) - 這兩個感覺有點違和, 最好換換時間點, 讓他跟上vocal或拍子
00:55:830 (1,2,3,4) - 這四個怎麼回事..把音量提高起來吧..
01:14:373 (2) - 應該是沒必要的finish..拿掉?


ShiroShitsuji
  • - 0.5x陷阱我恨你啊......
    - slider可以試試關掉grid snap慢慢拉點, 如果你有耐性的話..
    像這樣 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18474
00:11:459 (4) - 這種建議spacing還是依照1.0速度的那樣...不然以第二簡單的難度來說, 會騙到不少人
00:13:225 (3) - 嗯..是不是少了1/2拍D:?
00:24:925 (5) - new combo
00:39:936 (6) - 開頭補clap
00:44:130 (4) ~ 00:47:441 (5) - 這段請補音效.-.
01:10:620 (4) - 突然就jump了;_;!?


KuroShitsuji
[list:4b0eb]00:21:834 (1,2,3) - 把三個一起選取後把(2)移到中間
00:24:925 (1) - 間距
00:41:922 - 為什麼kuro的break比前兩個難度都還要長._.
00:55:830 (1) - 間距
01:17:022 (1) - 放到(7)正下方
Eddotan
[Overall]
Tag: ¿?
volume of hitsound it seems to me loud

I didnt see any errors on this map, but following are suggestions, if you disagree, you can ignore it. :)

[AkaShitsuji]
00:29:340 - start kiai here
00:41:481 (b) - you can map some there, and you have a spinner opportunity
01:25:852 (1) - shorten this spinner to the red tick

[ShiroShitsuji]
00:29:340 - start kiai here
01:24:527 (1) - shorten this spinner to white tick (01:28:501)

[KuroShitsuji]
00:29:340 - start kiai here
01:25:852 (1) - shorten this spinner to red tick (01:28:721)


nice map *starred* :P
lovhin456
Hi! Just a quick suggestion;
- Use 0.9x distance snap in AkaShitsuji
- 1.2x or 1.1x distance snap in ShiroShitsuji
- You have a scorebar-ki but you have to have a scorebar-kidanger and scorebar-kidanger2 too.
- Make a scorebar-bg ??
- That's all ~
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

NatsumeRin wrote:

SPOILER
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
.osb文件没用到,删,重传。
因为有hitcircle和hitcircleoverlay,你还需要一个approachcircle.png。可以从皮肤里扒一个。
section-pass和规定大小不符合
你的soft-hitclap2声太大了。修低一些吧
修改音量/音效用的绿线不要压在note上而是要提前一些放置,以防玩家打快造成音效混乱。


[Aka]
spacing建议彻底重新查一遍。尤其是前面的
00:07:927 (2,3) - 比如这里
00:11:459 (3,1) - 再比如。。。
00:17:640 (2,3,4,5) - 再比如。。
00:55:830 (1,2,3,4) - 这里做一个渐强效果吧,每个note升一次音量就可
01:17:684 (3) - sliderwhistle消掉。在slider上加音效的时候不要偷懒直接点slider加,这样会改变slider的滑动音,要单点每拍加,后面不再提

[Shiro]
00:01:083 (1,2) - 很多slider比如这个,都可以拉的更好看些,试着用四个点来画slider吧。
00:28:015 (1,2,3,4) - 这串过难了。
00:43:026 (3,4,5,6) - 同,以及这个的附近应该是少加了不少clap
00:59:362 (1,2) - ……
01:23:423 (1,1) - 这很糟糕。。真的。。按星数看这只是个Normal,这个就太过分了。

[Kuro]
00:10:355 (1,2,3) - 理解不能,而且之后的同样形状也都遵守了spacing.
00:38:170 (1) - 建议不要finish.
00:40:819 (2,3) - spacing
00:55:388 (3,1) - ^
谢谢你mod得这么仔细。。以前真的没发现这么多问题,有些可能是昨天改BPM、删了点0.5x的时候不小心移错位了没注意点。。
其实当时做的时候就有点觉得难度混乱了,不过也没做图的经验,不知道该怎么改。。我会好好地从头到尾改一下的!
音效方面也是,最早别人让我加hitsound,我就去把所有看得见的都加了遍音效。。然后又有人来教我是每两个白线加一个clap,slider上的whistle音估计也是修改的时候忘记消掉了。
还想问一下,如果需要加clap的白线上没有circle或者slider的起始点,那还能加音效吗?我有几段缺了clap音,就是因为不太会加。。另外音效加在绿线上这点,我学到啦~~ :) :)
我会尽快改好的。。
再次谢谢你~~
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

Pokie wrote:

SPOILER
General
  • - Open all osu files and add "Sliderborder : 0,0,0" under "[Colours]"

    - ...忘記能說中文了, 嗯..我覺得有必要降低整體音效音量
    - 中間的break map掉的話會更好._. 歌也不是很長呢
    - 另外請檢查你所有綠線在更改BPM後有沒有失效或是位置放的不好, 比如說有些原本要在note後面的綠線, 變成在note前面之類的

AkaShitsuji
  • - 如Rin所提到spacing...
    - clap部份我也聽不懂你是想要在1,3拍下還是2,4...而且也斷斷續續的, 希望下次不會出現這個狀況._.
00:18:523 (3,4) - 這兩個感覺有點違和, 最好換換時間點, 讓他跟上vocal或拍子
00:55:830 (1,2,3,4) - 這四個怎麼回事..把音量提高起來吧..
01:14:373 (2) - 應該是沒必要的finish..拿掉?


ShiroShitsuji
  • - 0.5x陷阱我恨你啊......
    - slider可以試試關掉grid snap慢慢拉點, 如果你有耐性的話..
    像這樣 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18474
00:11:459 (4) - 這種建議spacing還是依照1.0速度的那樣...不然以第二簡單的難度來說, 會騙到不少人
00:13:225 (3) - 嗯..是不是少了1/2拍D:?
00:24:925 (5) - new combo
00:39:936 (6) - 開頭補clap
00:44:130 (4) ~ 00:47:441 (5) - 這段請補音效.-.
01:10:620 (4) - 突然就jump了;_;!?


KuroShitsuji
[list:91dfa]00:21:834 (1,2,3) - 把三個一起選取後把(2)移到中間
00:24:925 (1) - 間距
00:41:922 - 為什麼kuro的break比前兩個難度都還要長._.
00:55:830 (1) - 間距
01:17:022 (1) - 放到(7)正下方
看来break必须map掉了啊,有好多人都提到了。。弱弱地有点舍不得我section-pass和-fail的皮肤 :( :(
0.5x什么的,其实原来更多 :D ,毕竟这是我第一次好好做张map,难免有点手贱。。下次不敢了!
slider我也一直觉得形状不够好看,原来是因为点不够多啊~~
用clap打拍子我也是最近才学到的说,看来还是出了不少差错。。
我要学的还太多了。。
总之,真是谢谢你啊~~~我会尽快改好的!
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

Eddotan wrote:

SPOILER
[Overall]
Tag: ¿?
volume of hitsound it seems to me loud

I didnt see any errors on this map, but following are suggestions, if you disagree, you can ignore it. :)

[AkaShitsuji]
00:29:340 - start kiai here
00:41:481 (b) - you can map some there, and you have a spinner opportunity
01:25:852 (1) - shorten this spinner to the red tick

[ShiroShitsuji]
00:29:340 - start kiai here
01:24:527 (1) - shorten this spinner to white tick (01:28:501)

[KuroShitsuji]
00:29:340 - start kiai here
01:25:852 (1) - shorten this spinner to red tick (01:28:721)


nice map *starred* :P
Thank you for your modding and star~~
I'll turn down the volumn of hitsound..I tested it again,and..yes,really loud!
the start of kiai time is suggested by a friend,it won't be a big problem if keep original I think.
but I'll shorten the spinner to red tick...by the way,I find each spinner starts at different time.I'll check it later.
THX again~~
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

lovhin456 wrote:

Hi! Just a quick suggestion;
- Use 0.9x distance snap in AkaShitsuji
- 1.2x or 1.1x distance snap in ShiroShitsuji
- You have a scorebar-ki but you have to have a scorebar-kidanger and scorebar-kidanger2 too.
- Make a scorebar-bg ??
- That's all ~
Oh,I forgot the kidanger!THX for your remind.
After I fix the map problems,I'll check the skin all over.
And I'll try your distance suggestion~~
THX again!
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

Selee wrote:

NR好像在mod, 咱就只给星了 =w=
;) ;) 其实你能来我就觉得很惊喜啦~~
话说把你贴吧里的问题贴变成了modding queue,真是很不好意思的说。。
你前几天还在置顶帖里回答了我的问题,帮了我很多啊!
谢谢你的star~~
NatsumeRin
有slider的各点也可以加,稍微高级些的技巧是可以用slider tick(即滑条上的白点)来加。
方法是用你的clap复制一个命名为soft-slidertick.wav,在到达这个点之前把音效换为C1,之后换为C2,这样在滑过这个点时,使用的是C1效果音,即slidertick.wav。
用一个本人的图作为参照好了(虽然用的不多)http://osu.ppy.sh/s/15737,Komari难度。
另外就是一般都是先用C1再用C2的。。。你这样蛮奇怪。。。
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

NatsumeRin wrote:

有slider的各点也可以加,稍微高级些的技巧是可以用slider tick(即滑条上的白点)来加。
方法是用你的clap复制一个命名为soft-slidertick.wav,在到达这个点之前把音效换为C1,之后换为C2,这样在滑过这个点时,使用的是C1效果音,即slidertick.wav。
用一个本人的图作为参照好了(虽然用的不多)http://osu.ppy.sh/s/15737,Komari难度。
另外就是一般都是先用C1再用C2的。。。你这样蛮奇怪。。。
原来是这样啊~~
其实做那张map的时候完全不懂hitsound是怎么回事,不然肯定不会做自己没法加音效的slider。。是之前有人mod的时候告诉我要加,那个C2也是他给的。。
我回头再好好研究一下,等改好了给您看成果~~~ ;) ;)
另外我把前两个diff的难度降低了点。。jump什么的,尽量没那么jump了~~0.5x也基本上全去掉了,果然舒服了许多! :) :)
还有是第二段副歌的开头,我按照你的提议试了一下,那个渐响的音效。。可能是背景乐里的节奏太强了,感觉效果不是很明显,也可能是我加的不好吧。。我会再试试的!
皮肤也暂时还没时间改。。第二个难度的break我保留了,毕竟也不长,实在是section-pass的少爷太萌了。。要这么舍弃他是在于心不忍。。第一和第三个难度的break都map掉了~~
最后还是必须再说一声谢谢! ;)
Kurai
Hi~

[General]
spinner-background.png and spinner-metre.png must be 1024x768

[Akashitsuji]
00:43:468 (3) - Add clap at end

[Shiroshitsuji]
00:19:406 (5) - The reverse sound off, I think that'll better if you change this slider by a spinner
01:10:620 (4) - Spacing error, I know that's for the design but that's bad :<

[Kuroshitsuji]
00:26:691 (6) - Remove and extand 00:26:470 (5) by 1/4
00:55:388 (3) - Add clap at begin ?

Star~
choche_old
Hi! I'm going to start with the mod ok? ^^

Things you must do
Suggestions (If you don't agree with me, you don't have to change it)

[General]

Good ;)

[Akashitsuji]

No problems here ;)

[ShiroShitsuji]

No problems too :D

[KuroShitsuji]

No problems too (T.T I couldn't mod this, is perfect, sorry)

*star*
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

Kurai_ wrote:

SPOILER
Hi~

[General]
spinner-background.png and spinner-metre.png must be 1024x768

[Akashitsuji]
00:43:468 (3) - Add clap at end

[Shiroshitsuji]
00:19:406 (5) - The reverse sound off, I think that'll better if you change this slider by a spinner
01:10:620 (4) - Spacing error, I know that's for the design but that's bad :<

[Kuroshitsuji]
00:26:691 (6) - Remove and extand 00:26:470 (5) by 1/4
00:55:388 (3) - Add clap at begin ? I add clap at the 1st and 3rd white line,while this note is locatd at the 4th one..also the background sound is very loud at this point,so..maybe it doesn't matter if kept original.
Star~
Welcome~~and THX for your modding and star.
I'll fix the problems in a minute!
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

choche wrote:

SPOILER
Hi! I'm going to start with the mod ok? ^^

Things you must do
Suggestions (If you don't agree with me, you don't have to change it)

[General]

Good ;)

[Akashitsuji]

No problems here ;)

[ShiroShitsuji]

No problems too :D

[KuroShitsuji]

No problems too (T.T I couldn't mod this, is perfect, sorry)

*star*
It's really encouraging!
THX so much~~ ;) ;)
aRiskOfRain
General;

Get someone to check the offset, I think it might be a little off.
Make the breaks the same in all the difficulties?
Make the second kiai last the whole chorus?

Easy;

01:02:011 (4,1) - Spacing.

Normal;

00:14:329 (8,1) - Spacing.
00:19:406 (5) - This repeat doesn't fall on anything.
Topic Starter
zyqzyq

DiamondCrash wrote:

General;

Get someone to check the offset, I think it might be a little off.
Make the breaks the same in all the difficulties? is this a rule?I mean I don't want to remove the section-pass skin..but if so ,I'll map over the second diff's break...
Make the second kiai last the whole chorus? OIC..it's a mistake.
Easy;

01:02:011 (4,1) - Spacing.

Normal;

00:14:329 (8,1) - Spacing.
00:19:406 (5) - This repeat doesn't fall on anything.
Thank you for your star and modding~~
Many people have told me to map over the breaks..but I still keep the second diff's break,maybe it's time to say goodby to my section-pass and fail skin..
In terms of the offset.I'll try to find someone to fix this,thank you for finding out the problem.
THX again!
NatsumeRin
我那贴不应该给kud的,没什么实际东西,以及3页最后那个也不该给。。。
之前忘了写了。。。不过提醒下,以后不要什么mod都给kud,一旦人家看到你的map写一行和写一页都是一个kud,没人愿意费心思看图。
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