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Rena-chan
How very nice of you to edit and use numbers from my skin and not let me know in any way or credit me personally in the description of the map.
Topic Starter
Haneii

Priestess In Yellow wrote:

How very nice of you to edit and use numbers from my skin and not let me know in any way or credit me personally in the description of the map.
I'm sorry you feel like I stole your skin and didn't credit you properly. I've fixed it now as requested :)


Although I would like to explain why I had "Thank you Rena-chan for your help with skin" rather than "Thank you Rena-chan for the numbers"



The top left is me just using the font in word. The bottom right is the numbers in question. As you can see the fonts are very similar (if not the same). When I first started making this skin I was aware that this font was also used in another map - your "God is a girl map". Rather than typing in each number and saving them as individual files I decided I could save time by using your numbers and letting you know (asked permission in pm). I then proceeded to change the colour, size, and positioning of the numbers. When it came to citing you, I guess I just had the mindset that since I already have the exact same font, if I had started from scratch, it would have still looked nearly identical to the numbers in your skin. And since mine are black compared to your red- saying "your numbers" didn't feel accurate.

I'm sorry you felt that I wronged you Priestess In Yellow. I never meant to belittle your involvement/input to my maps if thats how it came across. I appreciate you letting me use the numbers, it saved me time and allowed me to put more focus on other aspects of my map. Thank you
Kiddo-Kun
The Vile One = CTB?
Topic Starter
Haneii
sorry - fixed :)
Salwinjack
I love it :D
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
offset: +7

[Ciel]
00:14:084 (3,1,2) - spacing.
00:41:584 (6) - 1 grid down + 1 grid left... looks better imo.
01:27:834 (1) - emm... why silence this... a finish will fits good..

[Alois]
this dif.... i'm sorry, did you ever tried it? very strange since.... many notes are on the blue line? i guess sth is wrong.
00:30:084 (4,1) - spacing...
01:27:584 (3) - remove sliderwhistle.
map is... well first please make sure if your notes should be there... sounds not so strange but can never play it well.

[Kid's Grell]
00:28:584 (1,2,3) - don't make sense to me.
00:56:584 (1,1,2) - fail to read this for several times... though it's ok... change 1 and 2 to a slider?
nice diff.

[Vibty's Claude]
HP-1, at least, plz.
not sth really important, but actually i don't understand what the diff is...? Insane? seems like a Insane but there are too many places have a >1s break, "finish a short pattern, stop, wait, start another one" ---- this is not for a Insane. and i can't think it's a Hard since it's obviously Harder than common Hard. (u can also found this through max score, this diff is about 1.8m, Kid's = 1m, TheVileOne's=4.8m)
Patterns are nice, but for the whole diff, need more work to do.

[TheVileOne's Sebastian]
00:03:709 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - wow devil but i like it.
00:04:834 (3) - 1 grid down and 1 grid left, it looks much better then.
00:30:709 (1,2,3) - emm.... too many triples will get me bored, try to use more patterns? (since i found many of them in this diff)
01:13:459 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - can't agree with the spacing. you're doing 1/2 with 240 BPM
01:23:459 (5) - should end 1/4 later i guess.
hitsounds could still be improved... but k.
Kiddo-Kun

NatsumeRin wrote:

[Kid's Grell]
00:28:584 (1,2,3) - don't make sense to me. Huh?
00:56:584 (1,1,2) - fail to read this for several times... though it's ok... change 1 and 2 to a slider? Play tested it several times. Nothing seems wrong.
nice diff. Thanks~

Edit: Fixed some stuff

Download: GazettE - Shiver (TV Size) (Haneii) [Kid's Grell].osu
Topic Starter
Haneii

NatsumeRin wrote:

[General]
offset: +7 Okay

[Ciel]
00:14:084 (3,1,2) - spacing. Fixed
00:41:584 (6) - 1 grid down + 1 grid left... looks better imo. Okay
01:27:834 (1) - emm... why silence this... a finish will fits good.. Okay

[Alois]
this dif.... i'm sorry, did you ever tried it? very strange since.... many notes are on the blue line? i guess sth is wrong. They're placed on the blue ticks on purpose :)
00:30:084 (4,1) - spacing... Fixed
01:27:584 (3) - remove sliderwhistle. Okay
map is... well first please make sure if your notes should be there... sounds not so strange but can never play it well. aww :(

Thanks for the star and mod NatsumeRin


Edit:

Salwinjack wrote:

I love it :D
Glad you like it Sal <3
Vibty99
huh? friendship difficulty
Topic Starter
Haneii

Vibty99 wrote:

huh? friendship difficulty
Nope :D
Weez
Awesome map :D
TheVileOne
I think it's time to make a post. Haneii hasn't been bugging me about new mod posts. I'll look into Natsume Rin's post and edit this post with any changes. In the meantime Haneii, you should be continuing your effort to get random people to mod this map.

Edit: Next update I will look into hitsound improvements, reducing that one insane stream everyone keeps bugging me about, and some other touches.
Derekku
[General]
*The plate on fruit-ryuuta is a bit messy (and what's that random line by the guy's head?)
*I see pause menu buttons, but no pause-overlay?
*A section-fail is missing.
*The guy on the far left of section-pass is cropped strangely (his arm and foot).
*(Nazi) Default/Score 1 and 9 could be moved up a pixel or two (they look slightly lower than the other numbers).
*I see why TheVileOne's diff has a longer audio lead-in (since it starts two measures earlier), but the other four difficulties start at the same place. Thus, those four should have the same lead-in.
*Audio quality doesn't sound that terrific. Any chance of getting a better mp3?
*If not, the offset could use a -10.

[Ciel]
*Argh @kiai not ending at the same spot as your other difficulty. *punches the spinner* You could end the kiai halfway through @01:28:591, which would give the kiai stars a fading-out effect, but I guess it really doesn't matter...
00:04:091 (1) - expected a finish on the end of this
00:18:591 (1) - How about gradually decreasing the volume of this?
01:27:841 (1) - Finish is a lot louder than I expected
*I expected more sliders to end on the blue tick than just the first of the song and the first of the chorus. :c

[Alois]
*Try to avoid so many random offbeat blue tick notes. They're too hard to predict in easier difficulties. Remember that many players will be sightreading this song for the first time, so you can't expect them to know the melody already. You should be utilizing sliders more than single notes for all of the offbeat blue tick notes.
00:18:591 (1) - Same silencing suggestion
00:30:466 (1,2,3) - These sound VERY awkward. It's probably because of the claps on the ends. x_x
00:34:466 (1,2,3) - spacing?
00:38:966 (1,2,3,4,5) - Again with the blue ticks. How about using sliders instead? :v
01:00:091 (4,5,6) - (nazi) spacing
*Not only are so many of the offbeats unpredictable, but then you start mapping sliders white tick to white tick towards the end. This is inconsistent and even more confusing. @-@

[Kid's Grell]
*A harder difficulty, so I expected more use of the offbeats. But instead, I see mapping mainly to the white/red ticks or sliders for the offbeats. If this had been another Haneii difficulty, I'd REALLY be getting mixed messages here. x_x On that note, though, I see nothing unrankable.

[Vibty's Claude]
01:04:216 (7) - uhhhhh shorten by 1/4th? :?
01:12:341 (3,1) - hmmm maybe add a spinner to this gap?
*The streams were a bit more spaced-out than I would've liked to seen, but overall the map wasn't bad.

[TheVileOne's Sebastian]
00:03:716 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 1/8th stream whatttttt
*Oh god the distance spacing for the streams (it just gets larger and larger) @_____@
*I don't want to say that this is overmapped, but it's pretty crazy...
Topic Starter
Haneii

Derekku wrote:

[General]
*The plate on fruit-ryuuta is a bit messy (and what's that random line by the guy's head?) lolz. oops. Fixed
*I see pause menu buttons, but no pause-overlay?Fixed
*A section-fail is missing.Fixed
*The guy on the far left of section-pass is cropped strangely (his arm and foot).Fixed
*(Nazi) Default/Score 1 and 9 could be moved up a pixel or two (they look slightly lower than the other numbers).okay
*I see why TheVileOne's diff has a longer audio lead-in (since it starts two measures earlier), but the other four difficulties start at the same place. Thus, those four should have the same lead-in. Fixed
*Audio quality doesn't sound that terrific. Any chance of getting a better mp3? I search everyday for a better mp3, hopefully I'll find one before this gets ranked
*If not, the offset could use a -10. Okay

[Ciel] Fixed
*Argh @kiai not ending at the same spot as your other difficulty. *punches the spinner* You could end the kiai halfway through @01:28:591, which would give the kiai stars a fading-out effect, but I guess it really doesn't matter...
00:04:091 (1) - expected a finish on the end of this
00:18:591 (1) - How about gradually decreasing the volume of this?
01:27:841 (1) - Finish is a lot louder than I expected
*I expected more sliders to end on the blue tick than just the first of the song and the first of the chorus. :c Hai, re-mapped a bit of it :P

[Alois]Fixed to the best of my capabilities
*Try to avoid so many random offbeat blue tick notes. They're too hard to predict in easier difficulties. Remember that many players will be sightreading this song for the first time, so you can't expect them to know the melody already. You should be utilizing sliders more than single notes for all of the offbeat blue tick notes.
00:18:591 (1) - Same silencing suggestion
00:30:466 (1,2,3) - These sound VERY awkward. It's probably because of the claps on the ends. x_x
00:34:466 (1,2,3) - spacing?
00:38:966 (1,2,3,4,5) - Again with the blue ticks. How about using sliders instead? :v
01:00:091 (4,5,6) - (nazi) spacing
*Not only are so many of the offbeats unpredictable, but then you start mapping sliders white tick to white tick towards the end. This is inconsistent and even more confusing. @-@
Hime01
IT's very very very nice!! there is my star
Topic Starter
Haneii

Princess01 wrote:

IT's very very very nice!! there is my star
Thank you, glad you liked it :)
Lilac
I did a lot of horrible things with this so I don't expect you to include this. (I didn't even map this to be included for this.)

  1. Copy and pasted.
  2. Timing was awkward.
  3. Overlapped notes.
...

Download: GazettE - Shiver (TV Size) (Haneii) [I was bored.].osu
TheVileOne
Too late to edit that post. So I made another one.

NatsumeRin wrote:

Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[TheVileOne's Sebastian]
00:03:709 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - wow devil but i like it.
00:04:834 (3) - 1 grid down and 1 grid left, it looks much better then. Done
00:30:709 (1,2,3) - emm.... too many triples will get me bored, try to use more patterns? (since i found many of them in this diff) Erm i'm not the best player for making patterns. ._.
01:13:459 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - can't agree with the spacing. you're doing 1/2 with 240 BPMI toned it down.
01:23:459 (5) - should end 1/4 later i guess. Done
hitsounds could still be improved... but k. I will work on it.

Derekku wrote:

[TheVileOne's Sebastian]
00:03:716 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 1/8th stream whatttttt
*Oh god the distance spacing for the streams (it just gets larger and larger) @_____@
*I don't want to say that this is overmapped, but it's pretty crazy... I toned down several streams in this update. I want my spacing to be mostly conformal within streams. It's a work in progress.
Hitsounds haven't been touched for the most part just yet. I focused my time cleaning up the notes. Hopefully it made a difference.

Download: GazettE - Shiver (TV Size) (Haneii) [TheVileOne's Sebastian].osu
Mashley
mp3 sounds pretty shitty :

Aios
00:40:956 (3) - The repeat is hidden under the score burst from the previous slider.

TheVileOne's Sebastian
00:08:081 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - All the sliders should start 1/4 later (but end on the same point)

That's all. Nice mapset.
lovhin456
Hi again ~

Skin;
- If you have a section-pass why not a section-fail ??
- Customize spinner-spin, spinner-osu and spinner-clear otherwise your whole spinner set looks kind of bad
- To be honest I don't really like your section-pass but is okk, just that Claude shoes are a little cut.
- If you want me I can make the spinner words set, but I need you to tell me what font you're using.
- When I catch fruit with the edges of the plate, the fruit stays but at the same time is kind of out of the plate, ehhh, try it
- Slider ball is too happy for this song.

General;
- Audio lead-in is not the same in TheVileOne's Sebastian
- I got better mp3 for you, either the first or the second link are better than what you have I think...
http://www.mediafire.com/?luu99pydk3ixkrl
http://www.mediafire.com/?d5uc4mw748j9bw8

Ciel;
- 00:04:081 >> end at 00:04:581
- 00:06:081 >> new combo

Alois;
- Umm, is okk, well placed but some parts don't fall on anything

* Kid's Grell, Vibty's Claude and TheVileOne's Sebastian are all okk.
Ashikabi
- star!!!
Derekku
I'd say use the 256kbps mp3 that lovhin456 provided, but the offset is so early that you would need to select-all, move your beats around, fix all inherited sections, etc.

With the 320kbps mp3 that you (Haneii) re-encoded to a 256kbps one, you would only need to adjust the offset by a few ms. A -6 (landing you at 575) should sound perfect. Just make sure to resnap all notes afterwards. You can also adjust your inherited sections, but they won't be too off with such a tiny offset adjustment.

Good luck!
jericho2442
why does this still have the 128 kbps mp3? links have been given for better ones so please use them >_>

[Cial]
01:14:081 (1,2,3) - i dont like how these are spacing too close and breaks spacing on a easy diff


well just a small combo mod it seems for the rest :p

[Kid's Grell]
00:18:081 (1) - i see no point for this newcombo
00:39:081 (5) - newcombo, your breaking your pattern
00:40:081 (1) - remove newcombo, your breaking your pattern
01:06:081 (2) - newcombo here, and remove the combo off the (1) before it

[TheVileOne's Sebastian]
00:54:081 (1) - theres no need for this newcombo


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nice maps, star o/
Topic Starter
Haneii

Derekku wrote:

I'd say use the 256kbps mp3 that lovhin456 provided, but the offset is so early that you would need to select-all, move your beats around, fix all inherited sections, etc.

With the 320kbps mp3 that you (Haneii) re-encoded to a 256kbps one, you would only need to adjust the offset by a few ms. A -6 (landing you at 575) should sound perfect. Just make sure to resnap all notes afterwards. You can also adjust your inherited sections, but they won't be too off with such a tiny offset adjustment.

Good luck!
Thank you so much :D


Sorry about the shitty mp3 guys - I'm in the middle of fixing the skin so I was kinda procrastinating the full submit. I'll have the new and improved mp3 up soon :)


edit: mp3 now fixed...unfortunately its too loud and hitsounds can't be heard.

ps: redl
aryaco
Oh my god I was looking for this forever! Thanks for making this! Awesome map! 8D
Kiddo-Kun

jericho2442 wrote:

[Kid's Grell]
00:18:081 (1) - i see no point for this newcombo
00:39:081 (5) - newcombo, your breaking your pattern
00:40:081 (1) - remove newcombo, your breaking your pattern
01:06:081 (2) - newcombo here, and remove the combo off the (1) before it
It's Fine

Edit: 00:39:575 looks ugly

Download: GazettE - Shiver (TV Size) (Haneii) [Kid's Grell].osu
orioncomet
[General]
* offset: 609 sound much better to me =.= dunno why but older was really early, also don't forget to resnap all note

[Kid's Grell]
* make preview point to same as other diffs
00:40:609 (1) - end this spinner at white tick ?

<3 this anime xD
Topic Starter
Haneii

orioncomet wrote:

[General]
* offset: 609 sound much better to me =.= dunno why but older was really early, also don't forget to resnap all note Done :D

[Kid's Grell]
* make preview point to same as other diffs Fixed

00:40:609 (1) - end this spinner at white tick ?Kid's leaving it up to me to decide - and I think it sounds best the way it is but it is an awkward place to return to the video so I'll extend even further to the red tick

<3 this anime xD :)


Thanks for the star and mod orioncomet
TheVileOne
Hopefully if everything goes as planned. I'll have an updated difficulty tonight.

Edit: Things didn't go as planned. I got in a timing frenzy and forgot. :(


Mashley wrote:

mp3 sounds pretty shitty :


TheVileOne's Sebastian
00:08:081 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - All the sliders should start 1/4 later (but end on the same point) I'm not spacing them out weirdly like that. I'm going to do so unless osmeone suggests a workable slider design.

jericho2442 wrote:

[TheVileOne's Sebastian]
00:54:081 (1) - theres no need for this newcombo Bleh I don't like it.


All I did was resnap my 1/8th notes.


Edit: Changed a few spacings.


Download: GazettE - Shiver (TV Size) (Haneii) [TheVileOne's Sebastian].osu
Lilac
Got bored again. Here's a Romaji SB.

Inspired by your singing of this song.

Download: SB.zip
Kiddo-Kun

MarioBros777 wrote:

Got bored again. Here's a Romaji SB.

Inspired by your singing of this song.
Really nice ^^
Lilac


If you click that Design tab, you'll see something like "Move all elements in time..."



Should be that number that's there. -449 ms.

EDIT: Also, if you want me to do an English translation as well, I can do that too. Just say the word.
Topic Starter
Haneii
Fixed thanks MarioBros :D
[eifersucht]
star :D
gogogo kuroshitsuji )
Lucas Almeida_old
Great song. Star :333
Kiddo-Kun
I forgot who said it:
But someone said the notes after the spinners pissed them off.
I looked at them and I agree, they're unplayable.
Thanks to whoever ~
Oh, I also raised the volume.

Download: GazettE - Shiver (TV Size) (Haneii) [Kid's Grell].osu
Zetsubou Sensei
Hey. (Mod4Mod)

[Ciel]
Seems fine.

[Alois]
Seems fine.

[Kid's Grell]
Seems fine.

[Vibty's Claude]
Seems fine.

[TheVileOne's Sebastian]
Seems fine.

~STAR
James2250
I am not sure if white is a good idea for combo color, there is alot of white in the video at the start (and people hate it with kiai), consider changing it
Make sure every preferred skin is on default (doesn't look like Ciel is)
(comma/cursor trail/apporach circle covered by default)
No section fail?
Make sure kiai time start/ends at the same place on all of your difficulties (atm they don't)
I think combo burst 0 would look better facing the other way

Ciel:
AR/OD + 1?
00:33:135 - put another slider here? Feels empty
01:14:635 (2,3) - align start point of slider and note?

Alois:
00:05:635 (1,4) - align?
00:07:635 (1) - why not make this symmetrical?
00:30:010 (1,2,3) - ^
00:58:635 (2) - shorten by 1/4
01:00:635 (6) - make symmetrical
01:05:635 (1) - ^ (go through and try and more all sliders that are almost symmetrical neater)

Kid's Grell:
00:09:634 (4,5) - align
00:59:635 (1,2) - align
01:06:135 (3,4) - ^
01:13:968 (1) - move to blue tick
01:25:634 (1,2,3,4,5) - odd pattern, make it look nicer?
01:28:468 (2) - move to blue tick
(you can go through and see if you want to align other stuff..don't want to make big nazi list)

Vibty's Claude:
00:56:385 (1) - I would end this on white tick

TheVileOne's Sebastian:
00:52:385 (5) - looks kinda odd..but ok

Could nazi align some of the other difficulties but isn't really needed and will leave that up to you~
OK I think this map is almost ready for a bubble (maybe Forum PM me when you fixed everything)
Topic Starter
Haneii

James2250 wrote:

I am not sure if white is a good idea for combo color, there is alot of white in the video at the start (and people hate it with kiai), consider changing it Reason for black outline is for the white to stand out but if this gets suggested again I'll try and change it
Make sure every preferred skin is on default (doesn't look like Ciel is)Whoops. Fixed!
(comma/cursor trail/apporach circle covered by default)
No section fail?This has been suggested so many times *sigh* I've tried other characters...but it either looks too cute or not serious enough. Default Red seemed to go with the dark/gothic theme better (note: I do look for a suitable pic nearly everyday. If i find one then I'll use it ^_^)
Make sure kiai time start/ends at the same place on all of your difficulties (atm they don't)All diff now have the same kiai time except Ciel (whole spinner issue) but like I told you I'll get a second opinion about this.
I think combo burst 0 would look better facing the other wayLol deja vu? I feel like someone (most likely you) mentioned this to me a while back. Anyways, done!

Ciel:Okay
AR/OD + 1? Hai
00:33:135 - put another slider here? Feels empty Sure
01:14:635 (2,3) - align start point of slider and note? Okay

Alois:
00:05:635 (1,4) - align? Hai
00:07:635 (1) - why not make this symmetrical? I tried (I'm very bad with sliders)
00:30:010 (1,2,3) - ^Done (I hope)
00:58:635 (2) - shorten by 1/4 Hai
01:00:635 (6) - make symmetrical Hai
01:05:635 (1) - ^ (go through and try and more all sliders that are almost symmetrical neater) Once again tried my best but not too sure if i did them right
Thanks for the Star and Mod James2250
Kiddo-Kun
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