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P*Light feat. yukacco - Stargazer (DJ Shimamura Remix)

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Makeli
932 posts
Joined October 2013
Makeli
Yo! M4M from yer que ok cool

[General]
Idk maybe AR 9.2 would be better your choice here m8

[Galaxy of Oppai]

00:02:149 (2) - This flows gay to me (no offense to gay people. I don't mean the homosexual way of gay but the bad way of gay). Maybe ctrl+g?
00:16:549 (5,1) - This kind of slider curving just triggers me. http://puu.sh/kULGX/892c8c809b.jpg ?
00:19:120 (5,6) - Random big jump here you never did this before. I know there's a loud kick on the white tick but still. I suggest you keep the jump but maybe a bit lower ds. Maybe you could apply this the whole starting whatever it's called maybe you know what I mean lol
00:21:692 (2) - Not completely sure but shouldn't this be nc'd since sv changes
00:40:206 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3) - You mapped the super silent 1/4 m8 plox. Not really anything wrong with that just a random pick
01:06:006 (1) - Make it end at the blue tick and start at the white tick like this http://puu.sh/kUM4B/3ad0237e97.jpg
01:06:263 (1,2,3) - Wow, Many sliders much overlap. Doesn't look good imo
01:11:749 (1,2) - No pls no 01:10:035 (3,1) - these overlap too which looks dumb
01:17:920 (3) - Ctrl+g?
01:20:663 (3) - ^ btw 01:19:977 (2,4) - these two overlap
01:32:663 (6) - 1/1 Slider?
01:50:492 (2) - NC? sv change
02:11:406 (7) - ^
02:36:606 (7,1) - For some reason this felt just really awkward i have no idea why
02:48:263 (4) - This is really annyoing to play since it's closer to (3) than (2) well not really annyoing just random lol
03:18:263 (1) - Move this spinner to 03:18:006 - keep the end at the same point
04:01:806 (1) - Overlappy pls fixerino
04:23:063 (3) - Hnnnnggghhhh.... just please move this closer to (2) or just stack it
04:35:406 (3) - NC sv change
04:52:892 (2) - ctrl+g?
05:00:606 (8,1) - oh i hate it when people do this. this is just my opinion don't give two shits about this if you like it but the spacing is bad with that

All in all your spacing seems a bit off imo but I really like playing this map.
Hope this helps at least in some way.
Good luck! :)
Kalibe
2,060 posts
Joined October 2013
Kalibe
Let's do this

Metadata: It's good, but japanese in tags isn't nessesary imo :3

[Galaxy Of Weekend]

00:11:063 (5) - remove red struction and make normal linear slider
00:13:120 (2,3,4) - hmm... http://puu.sh/kUOc1/06ec7914a1.jpg ?
00:34:720 to 00:40:035 - you should add here some triplets to beat the rhythm, you know?
00:51:692 (4) - NC?
00:54:777 (7) - ctrl + G?
01:06:263 (1,2,3) - please, avoid this overlapping. It's so confusing :?
01:09:006 (1,2,3) - but this is good pattern to make overlap :3
01:36:263 (1,2,3,5,6) - not nessesary 0.4 DS. Try use 1.0, it isn't slow part here
01:42:006 (2,3) - bad place to triplet :?
02:45:692 (3,4,5,6) - better rhythm imo : http://puu.sh/kUOLT/a41cc51657.jpg
02:47:920 (2) - stack on (4)
03:28:892 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - omm... don't symmetry this. Ye i know it's cool, but i prefer to put at random places :3
03:45:863 (3,5,7) - NC all to create a nicely readable pattern?
03:48:092 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i don't like symmetry 1/4 sliders, but ok ;w;
03:54:006 (3) - overmapped
03:54:692 (6,8) - ^ imo

And, that's all GL :3
Strategas
1,378 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Strategas

Maakkeli wrote:

Yo! M4M from yer que ok cool

[General]
Idk maybe AR 9.2 would be better your choice here m8 note density is pretty low here

[Galaxy of Oppai]

00:02:149 (2) - This flows gay to me (no offense to gay people. I don't mean the homosexual way of gay but the bad way of gay). Maybe ctrl+g?
00:16:549 (5,1) - This kind of slider curving just triggers me. http://puu.sh/kULGX/892c8c809b.jpg ? yea, I'll do that
00:19:120 (5,6) - Random big jump here you never did this before. I know there's a loud kick on the white tick but still. I suggest you keep the jump but maybe a bit lower ds. Maybe you could apply this the whole starting whatever it's called maybe you know what I mean lol
00:21:692 (2) - Not completely sure but shouldn't this be nc'd since sv changes sure
00:40:206 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3) - You mapped the super silent 1/4 m8 plox. Not really anything wrong with that just a random pick I tried to use all of the variety I could get
01:06:006 (1) - Make it end at the blue tick and start at the white tick like this http://puu.sh/kUM4B/3ad0237e97.jpg It currently starts and ends where the sound is even though it might be lame to play
01:06:263 (1,2,3) - Wow, Many sliders much overlap. Doesn't look good imo fix
01:11:749 (1,2) - No pls no 01:10:035 (3,1) - these overlap too which looks dumb fix
01:17:920 (3) - Ctrl+g? ok
01:20:663 (3) - ^ btw 01:19:977 (2,4) - these two overlap fix
01:32:663 (6) - 1/1 Slider? works
01:50:492 (2) - NC? sv change k
02:11:406 (7) - ^ k
02:36:606 (7,1) - For some reason this felt just really awkward i have no idea why fixed the flow I guess
02:48:263 (4) - This is really annyoing to play since it's closer to (3) than (2) well not really annyoing just random lol ok made it even more random
03:18:263 (1) - Move this spinner to 03:18:006 - keep the end at the same point sure
04:01:806 (1) - Overlappy pls fixerino fixerinoed
04:23:063 (3) - Hnnnnggghhhh.... just please move this closer to (2) or just stack it moved the 2 on top instead
04:35:406 (3) - NC sv change it's k rather keep this one consistent
04:52:892 (2) - ctrl+g? kinda breaks flow
05:00:606 (8,1) - oh i hate it when people do this. this is just my opinion don't give two shits about this if you like it but the spacing is bad with that moved it a bit up then

All in all your spacing seems a bit off imo but I really like playing this map.
Hope this helps at least in some way. Yeah I'll try to fix the remaining things, this was made long time ago anyway. Thanks!
Good luck! :)
Strategas
1,378 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Strategas

Kalibe wrote:

Let's do this

Metadata: It's good, but japanese in tags isn't nessesary imo :3

[Galaxy Of Weekend]

00:11:063 (5) - remove red struction and make normal linear slider ok
00:13:120 (2,3,4) - hmm... http://puu.sh/kUOc1/06ec7914a1.jpg ? I think it's ok
00:34:720 to 00:40:035 - you should add here some triplets to beat the rhythm, you know? idk I decided to follow the stronger beat there, but maybe I'll add some
00:51:692 (4) - NC? I'll keep it consistent
00:54:777 (7) - ctrl + G? It plays better like this I think
01:06:263 (1,2,3) - please, avoid this overlapping. It's so confusing :? fix
01:09:006 (1,2,3) - but this is good pattern to make overlap :3
01:36:263 (1,2,3,5,6) - not nessesary 0.4 DS. Try use 1.0, it isn't slow part here it's pretty calm though
01:42:006 (2,3) - bad place to triplet :? not in the music or placement? I didn't really understand
02:45:692 (3,4,5,6) - better rhythm imo : http://puu.sh/kUOLT/a41cc51657.jpg I like how the last slider follow the wub
02:47:920 (2) - stack on (4) okkkkkk
03:28:892 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - omm... don't symmetry this. Ye i know it's cool, but i prefer to put at random places :3 I prefer to have it structured than random
03:45:863 (3,5,7) - NC all to create a nicely readable pattern? I put NC on one for consistency
03:48:092 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i don't like symmetry 1/4 sliders, but ok ;w; rotated them a bit
03:54:006 (3) - overmapped I feel like it fits
03:54:692 (6,8) - ^ imo ^

And, that's all GL :3
Thanks!
FCL
1,478 posts
Joined July 2014
FCL
NM from my queue

  • [diffl]
  1. 00:18:263 (1) - why not copy 00:17:920 (5) - and ctrl+H?
  2. 00:45:349 (5,6) - the distance between them should be more, imo
  3. 00:49:120 (5,6,7,8) - again, you can make jumps here, following the voice
  4. 00:53:577 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - i suggest rotate a little bit
  5. 00:55:977 (3,4) - on (4) circle haven't clearly expressed sound, so I think that don't need make this big distance
  6. 01:12:777 (3) - it's boring, maybe make like this or something similar
  7. 02:20:835 (4,1) - ugly stack with end
  8. 03:07:292 (2) - maybe move on 272;268 for create patterns in form of star?
  9. 03:39:863 (1,2) - 03:40:377 (3,4) - - these patterns should be with same distance, i guess
  10. 03:40:892 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  11. 04:02:149 (2) - i don't like place of this slider here, maybe move on 320;124?
  12. 04:37:463 - you should start stream here, imo
  13. 05:02:663 (3,4) - make more distance
Good luck!
Strategas
1,378 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Strategas

FCL wrote:

NM from my queue

  • [diffl]
  1. 00:18:263 (1) - why not copy 00:17:920 (5) - and ctrl+H? yea, didn't notice they weren't even
  2. 00:45:349 (5,6) - the distance between them should be more, imo it's ok I think, everywhere else on same beat has same spacing or is stacked
  3. 00:49:120 (5,6,7,8) - again, you can make jumps here, following the voice It's not that intense I think
  4. 00:53:577 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - i suggest rotate a little bit ok
  5. 00:55:977 (3,4) - on (4) circle haven't clearly expressed sound, so I think that don't need make this big distance shrinked it a bit
  6. 01:12:777 (3) - it's boring, maybe make like this or something similar ok
  7. 02:20:835 (4,1) - ugly stack with end fix
  8. 03:07:292 (2) - maybe move on 272;268 for create patterns in form of star? ok
  9. 03:39:863 (1,2) - 03:40:377 (3,4) - - these patterns should be with same distance, i guess ok
  10. 03:40:892 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  11. 04:02:149 (2) - i don't like place of this slider here, maybe move on 320;124? you mean circle? sure
  12. 04:37:463 - you should start stream here, imo I think it's ok, I put it where the sound was most noticable
  13. 05:02:663 (3,4) - make more distance ye
Good luck!
Thanks!
chucentry
401 posts
Joined April 2013
chucentry
Hi Strategas

Galaxy Of Dreams
00:37:206 (8) - remove. and do the triple here 00:37:377 -

00:37:892 (3) - remove, and do the triple when finish the slider ( put note here 00:37:720 - )

00:51:692 (4,5,6,7,8) - i feel bad the placement but its my opinion. if u want to change here x:300 Y: 76 IF U WANT

01:37:292 (5,6,7) - is hard to read but not bad

01:42:006 (2) - this triple lsiten bad. maybe do the triple here 01:41:835 - or 01:42:177 -

02:17:320 (8) - remove. can do the triple here 02:17:492 -

02:21:435 (7) - same but here 02:21:606 -

02:22:120 (3) - remove it and if u want the triple put here 02:22:635 -

02:31:035 (6) - same but here 02:31:206 -

02:33:349 (1) - maybe make the continue stream. i mean make this slider a triple

02:34:377 (2) - blanket with 02:35:406 (1) - ?

02:39:263 - remove and triple here 02:39:435 -

02:41:920 (5,6,7) - this triple feels akward maybe remove the 02:42:006 (6) - and can put the future 6 (02:42:092 (6) - ) in x:322 y:108

02:48:263 (4,5) - sound better for me if the slider start in white tick and note stay before the slider

03:01:549 (2) - remove

03:52:635 (3) - triple here 03:52:463 - if u want it

03:53:235 (6,7,8,1) - add ntoe here 03:53:492 - and make a streak with 5 notes

03:54:006 (3) - remove. the triple is here 03:53:835 - i think

04:13:206 (3) - remove. the triple is here 04:13:377 - i think

04:16:635 (7) - remove it and 04:16:720 (7) - stack with the end of this slider 04:16:035 (4) -

In kiai try with more HS volume like 75%

Good luck!
Strategas
1,378 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Strategas

chucentry wrote:

Hi Strategas

Galaxy Of Dreams
00:37:206 (8) - remove. and do the triple here 00:37:377 - ok

00:37:892 (3) - remove, and do the triple when finish the slider ( put note here 00:37:720 - ) ok

00:51:692 (4,5,6,7,8) - i feel bad the placement but its my opinion. if u want to change here x:300 Y: 76 IF U WANT ok

01:37:292 (5,6,7) - is hard to read but not bad it's slow so easy to read

01:42:006 (2) - this triple lsiten bad. maybe do the triple here 01:41:835 - or 01:42:177 - feels fine to me

02:17:320 (8) - remove. can do the triple here 02:17:492 - ok

02:21:435 (7) - same but here 02:21:606 -

02:22:120 (3) - remove it and if u want the triple put here 02:22:635 -

02:31:035 (6) - same but here 02:31:206 - changed all these

02:33:349 (1) - maybe make the continue stream. i mean make this slider a triple nah, it would be overmap

02:34:377 (2) - blanket with 02:35:406 (1) - ? ok

02:39:263 - remove and triple here 02:39:435 -

02:41:920 (5,6,7) - this triple feels akward maybe remove the 02:42:006 (6) - and can put the future 6 (02:42:092 (6) - ) in x:322 y:108 change

02:48:263 (4,5) - sound better for me if the slider start in white tick and note stay before the slider it sounds the same though lol

03:01:549 (2) - remove no, it follows the instrument

03:52:635 (3) - triple here 03:52:463 - if u want it I like that part

03:53:235 (6,7,8,1) - add ntoe here 03:53:492 - and make a streak with 5 notes I intended something else here

03:54:006 (3) - remove. the triple is here 03:53:835 - i think nah

04:13:206 (3) - remove. the triple is here 04:13:377 - i think ok

04:16:635 (7) - remove it and 04:16:720 (7) - stack with the end of this slider 04:16:035 (4) - ok

In kiai try with more HS volume like 75% its very loud already because not soft hitsounds

Good luck!
Thanks!
BellxCranell
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Joined May 2015
BellxCranell
Sekmės stratėgas. Man dar reiks lipti iki tokio lygio, kad galėčiau žaist. :D
Lazer
417 posts
Joined July 2012
Lazer
From Kudosu Alchemists Queue

[Galaxy Of Dreams]
Change the difficulty name to "Galaxy of Dreams" (I think it would be better :^>)

00:05:406 (4) - I suggest lowering the spacing of this one
00:52:892 (2,4) - These two sound almost the same yet the first one has alot more spacing, maybe even it out?
01:32:663 (6) - this hits the HP bar
01:33:692 (3,1,2,3) - I suggest changing this pattern around a bit as it doesnt look that great imo
01:37:635 (7,1) - blanket plox
01:45:692 (8) - hits hp bar
02:04:549 (3) - move towards y:192
02:05:921 (3) - move towards y:192
02:06:606 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I would slowly make the slider velocity lower with increased spacing
02:26:663 (5) - lifebar hit
02:18:777 (6,1) - put emphasizement on the downbeat, not the beat before that
02:22:720 (7,1) - ^
02:39:006 (5,6) - align them correctly
02:40:378 (4,5,6,7,1) - this jump is so huge like why
02:49:977 (4) - lifebarbar
02:58:720 (1) - emphasize on this beat by making it more spaced than (2)
03:03:177 (2) - ctrl+g
03:06:606 (5,1) - touchy touchy ;w;
03:08:320 (2) - rip emphasism on this beat completely
04:59:406 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - too extreme for this part
05:03:349 (7,1) - increase spacing on (1)
Strategas
1,378 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Strategas

Lazer wrote:

From Kudosu Alchemists Queue

[Galaxy Of Dreams]
Change the difficulty name to "Galaxy of Dreams" (I think it would be better :^>) k

00:05:406 (4) - I suggest lowering the spacing of this one I guess it's a bit too much
00:52:892 (2,4) - These two sound almost the same yet the first one has alot more spacing, maybe even it out? The two is much stronger though, but I made it less spaced to match 00:53:577 (5) -
01:32:663 (6) - this hits the HP bar moved
01:33:692 (3,1,2,3) - I suggest changing this pattern around a bit as it doesnt look that great imo ok
01:37:635 (7,1) - blanket plox ok if I got what you meant
01:45:692 (8) - hits hp bar moved
02:04:549 (3) - move towards y:192
02:05:921 (3) - move towards y:192 moved both
02:06:606 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I would slowly make the slider velocity lower with increased spacing changed a little
02:26:663 (5) - lifebar hit moved
02:18:777 (6,1) - put emphasizement on the downbeat, not the beat before that I feel like the other note is more important to be emphasized
02:22:720 (7,1) - ^ the note before is emphasized with spacing while the downbeat gets emphasized by breaking the flow
02:39:006 (5,6) - align them correctly it wasn't my intention but why not
02:40:378 (4,5,6,7,1) - this jump is so huge like why 4 is building up 5 and 6 are just quite strong imo
02:49:977 (4) - lifebarbar fix
02:58:720 (1) - emphasize on this beat by making it more spaced than (2) 2 and 3 are stronger imo 1 is just the start of the beat
03:03:177 (2) - ctrl+g I don't want a huge jump to 3 for no reason
03:06:606 (5,1) - touchy touchy ;w; but they like touching ;)
03:08:320 (2) - rip emphasism on this beat completely I'll try to sort this out later, nothing comes to mind right now
04:59:406 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - too extreme for this part I think it's ok, the ds isn't really higher than the biggest jumps here
05:03:349 (7,1) - increase spacing on (1) That's the part where I follow the buildup so it's low like that, I know there's a strong drum beat but I avoided all of strong beats in the whole patern there
Thank you for modding!
Strategas
1,378 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Strategas

BellxCranell wrote:

Sekmės stratėgas. Man dar reiks lipti iki tokio lygio, kad galėčiau žaist. :D
Treniruokis :D
pishifat
osu! Paragon
3,802 posts
Joined August 2013
pishifat
z

SPOILER
2015-10-30 13:49 Strategas: regarding extended sliders
2015-10-30 13:50 pishifat: z
2015-10-30 13:50 Strategas: http://i.imgur.com/NxKCGIy.png
2015-10-30 13:51 Strategas: where to use such paterns are good
2015-10-30 13:51 pishifat: what song tho
2015-10-30 13:51 Strategas: because a lot of places I tried either doesn't fit or just messes up the rhythm
2015-10-30 13:51 pishifat: like it all depends on the song
2015-10-30 13:51 Strategas: um
2015-10-30 13:51 Strategas: in general
2015-10-30 13:51 Strategas: dnb lets say
2015-10-30 13:51 pishifat: when there's no sound on the red tick
2015-10-30 13:52 Strategas: but if there's no sound on blue tick
2015-10-30 13:52 Strategas: it's still okay?
2015-10-30 13:52 pishifat: if there's no sound on either one it's k
2015-10-30 13:52 pishifat: you're like
2015-10-30 13:52 pishifat: making the white tick sound longer
2015-10-30 13:52 pishifat: by extending it like that
2015-10-30 13:52 Strategas: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/761035 Rameses B - Step Inside [Extra]]
2015-10-30 13:52 Strategas: 03:28:247 (3,4,5,1,2) -
2015-10-30 13:52 Strategas: is this usage fine?
2015-10-30 13:53 pishifat: sound on
2015-10-30 13:53 pishifat: the red tick where 3 is
2015-10-30 13:53 pishifat: the one on 1 is quieter
2015-10-30 13:53 pishifat: so it oculd be more acceptable
2015-10-30 13:53 Strategas: yeah I thought the same thing
2015-10-30 13:53 Strategas: but having only one of them
2015-10-30 13:53 Strategas: seemed weird
2015-10-30 13:54 pishifat: if that's true
2015-10-30 13:54 pishifat: having it on neither is the better option
2015-10-30 13:54 Strategas: probably so
2015-10-30 13:55 pishifat: 1/1 sliders work too
2015-10-30 13:55 Strategas: so for example if I use only 1/2 and 1/4
2015-10-30 13:55 pishifat: i use them just for aesthetics lul
2015-10-30 13:55 Strategas: for 5 minutes song
2015-10-30 13:55 Strategas: it's not a problem?
2015-10-30 13:55 pishifat: technically no
2015-10-30 13:55 Strategas: well I only use 1/1 for calm parts
2015-10-30 13:56 Strategas: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/812313 Tada Aoi - Yakeochinai Tsubasa (TV Size) [Strategas' Insane]]
2015-10-30 13:56 Strategas: 00:00:590 (1,1,1,1) -
2015-10-30 13:56 Strategas: like this
2015-10-30 13:56 Strategas: is suppose to be fine imo
2015-10-30 13:56 Strategas: oh wait
2015-10-30 13:56 Strategas: those are
2015-10-30 13:56 Strategas: almost 4/1
2015-10-30 13:56 Strategas: nvm
2015-10-30 13:56 pishifat: lol
2015-10-30 13:57 pishifat: that third one
2015-10-30 13:57 pishifat: ugly af
2015-10-30 13:57 Strategas: I thought it was okish :(
2015-10-30 14:00 Strategas: hmm, maybe you can find examples for 1/1 or 3/4 sliders which are pretty good?
2015-10-30 14:00 pishifat: in other maps?
2015-10-30 14:01 Strategas: yeah
2015-10-30 14:01 Strategas: your personal ones or other peoples
2015-10-30 14:01 Strategas: just to have good examples
2015-10-30 14:01 Strategas: I never really got an eye on them while playing
2015-10-30 14:01 pishifat: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/766938 Marie - Clover Day's]
2015-10-30 14:02 pishifat: kiai in any diff as examples
2015-10-30 14:02 pishifat: 01:19:904 (1) -
2015-10-30 14:02 pishifat: is a 1/1
2015-10-30 14:02 pishifat: for the sake of emphasizing downbeat
2015-10-30 14:02 Strategas: 00:02:062 (2) -
2015-10-30 14:02 pishifat: and aestheticz
2015-10-30 14:02 Strategas: is it me or this note really got my attention for not having a beat on it
2015-10-30 14:03 Strategas: oh
2015-10-30 14:03 pishifat: which diff tho
2015-10-30 14:03 Strategas: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/766938 Marie - Clover Day's [Anzu]]
2015-10-30 14:03 Strategas: I mean
2015-10-30 14:04 Strategas: imo it would be better
2015-10-30 14:04 Strategas: hmm
2015-10-30 14:04 Strategas: idk
2015-10-30 14:04 Strategas: nvm
2015-10-30 14:04 pishifat: i get what you mean
2015-10-30 14:04 pishifat: i wouldnt put spacing like that if i had an object there either
2015-10-30 14:06 pishifat: do i example more
2015-10-30 14:06 pishifat: that map has a lot of them
2015-10-30 14:06 Strategas: no need
2015-10-30 14:06 Strategas: got the idea
2015-10-30 14:06 Strategas: that song almost had no sounds
2015-10-30 14:06 pishifat: o
2015-10-30 14:06 pishifat: lol
2015-10-30 14:06 pishifat: ill find a dnb song
2015-10-30 14:10 pishifat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/722224 Sawai Miku - Colorful. (Asterisk DnB Remix) [Megumi]]
2015-10-30 14:10 pishifat: has a lot
2015-10-30 14:10 Strategas: ah this one
2015-10-30 14:11 Strategas: at first when I saw it I really disliked it
2015-10-30 14:11 pishifat: like every kiai starts with a 1/1
2015-10-30 14:11 Strategas: cause he used completely different rhythm
2015-10-30 14:11 Strategas: but it still works
2015-10-30 14:11 Strategas: quite well for some reason lol
2015-10-30 14:12 pishifat: ya the map is hot
2015-10-30 14:13 Strategas: I'm kind of against things like
2015-10-30 14:13 Strategas: 01:37:917 (1) -
2015-10-30 14:13 Strategas: 01:40:661 (3) -
2015-10-30 14:13 Strategas: the slider ends uhh..
2015-10-30 14:14 pishifat: 1/1 on downbeats is what most people do
2015-10-30 14:14 pishifat: because downbeats = most powerful thing in a measure
2015-10-30 14:14 pishifat: so even if you end it on a strong sound
2015-10-30 14:14 pishifat: downbeat usually more strong anyway
2015-10-30 14:14 pishifat: thats my logic to it at least
2015-10-30 14:15 pishifat: i do the same thing all the time
2015-10-30 14:15 Strategas: downbeat is most important in general music yeah
2015-10-30 14:15 Strategas: but
2015-10-30 14:15 Strategas: dnb has those 2 4 white tick thing
2015-10-30 14:16 pishifat: same with any rock song
2015-10-30 14:16 pishifat: yet i still do it anyway
2015-10-30 14:16 Strategas: I listen to a lot of them and the only cases where downbeats are stronger than those or a start of a new rhythm or just after build up
2015-10-30 14:17 pishifat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/696225 HoneyWorks - Miraizu feat.Aida Miou(CV:Toyosaki Aki) [Special]]
2015-10-30 14:17 pishifat: kiais do a lot of the same thing too
2015-10-30 14:18 Strategas: most of them follow vocals though
2015-10-30 14:18 Strategas: or very strong beats
2015-10-30 14:18 pishifat: ya
2015-10-30 14:18 pishifat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/612045 AKINO from bless4 - MIIRO [Resolve]]
2015-10-30 14:19 pishifat: lots of probably vocal following with that
2015-10-30 14:19 Strategas: alright thanks for explaining
2015-10-30 14:21 pishifat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/728318 P*Light feat. yukacco - Stargazer (DJ Shimamura Remix) [Galaxy of Dreams]]
2015-10-30 14:21 pishifat: i see why you were wondering about that
2015-10-30 14:21 pishifat: it's all
2015-10-30 14:21 pishifat: 1/2 sliders
2015-10-30 14:21 Strategas: yep
2015-10-30 14:21 pishifat: this song has
2015-10-30 14:22 pishifat: my fav rhythm
2015-10-30 14:22 pishifat: emphasis on 3/2 stuff
2015-10-30 14:22 pishifat: allows 1/1 sliders on https://i.gyazo.com/931f71a252f53985a7e ... 05f141.png
2015-10-30 14:22 pishifat: without sounding awkward
2015-10-30 14:23 Strategas: ah
2015-10-30 14:23 Strategas: so that's what's it called
2015-10-30 14:23 Strategas: I wondered
2015-10-30 14:23 Strategas: why was this rhythm
2015-10-30 14:23 Strategas: weird
2015-10-30 14:24 Strategas: my newer maps don't have the only 1/2 issue though
2015-10-30 14:24 Strategas: remaking the rhythm seemed quite a bit of work
2015-10-30 14:25 pishifat: yea
2015-10-30 14:25 pishifat: would mkae the map so much better tho
2015-10-30 14:26 Strategas: I guess I'll try to fix that this weekened
2015-10-30 14:27 pishifat: on this map?
2015-10-30 14:28 Strategas: yes
2015-10-30 14:28 Strategas: I shouldn't?
2015-10-30 14:29 pishifat: should
2015-10-30 14:29 pishifat: how long are you gonna be on
2015-10-30 14:30 Strategas: dunno
2015-10-30 14:30 Strategas: I can sit till morning
2015-10-30 14:30 Strategas: since nothing to do tomorrow
2015-10-30 14:30 pishifat: .
2015-10-30 14:30 pishifat: well if you're gonna be remapping stuff
2015-10-30 14:30 pishifat: i shouldnt like say individual things
2015-10-30 14:30 pishifat: that being i dont even
2015-10-30 14:30 pishifat: have individual things to say so far
2015-10-30 14:31 pishifat: but more general things that if you can apply while remapping
2015-10-30 14:31 pishifat: map will be ready4bub
2015-10-30 14:31 Strategas: okay
2015-10-30 14:31 Strategas: I don't think I'll remap that much though
2015-10-30 14:31 Strategas: well actually never mind
2015-10-30 14:31 Strategas: this map is long
2015-10-30 14:32 Strategas: so it will take a while
2015-10-30 14:32 Strategas: even if I change only every 3rd downbeat
2015-10-30 14:32 pishifat: if you want rank a map that you think is good
2015-10-30 14:32 pishifat: remapping = best option
2015-10-30 14:32 Strategas: yes I remapped this a bit a week ago
2015-10-30 14:32 pishifat: o lol
2015-10-30 14:32 Strategas: but without chaning rhythm
2015-10-30 14:33 Strategas: mostly this map was
2015-10-30 14:33 Strategas: very circular
2015-10-30 14:33 Strategas: as it non sharp angles
2015-10-30 14:33 pishifat: pretty ew
2015-10-30 14:33 Strategas: in*
2015-10-30 14:34 Strategas: that's probably what I hate the most
2015-10-30 14:34 pishifat: same
2015-10-30 14:34 Strategas: because I can't play maps that flow like that
2015-10-30 14:34 pishifat: samesamesamessaememaseemas
2015-10-30 14:34 pishifat: 01:12:777 (3) - nice snapping btw
2015-10-30 14:35 Strategas: wtf
2015-10-30 14:35 Strategas: oops
2015-10-30 14:39 pishifat: have to look and see how some guy worded a general thing
2015-10-30 14:39 pishifat: then i will be ready to spit words
2015-10-30 14:40 Strategas: k
2015-10-30 14:41 pishifat: ok
2015-10-30 14:41 pishifat: so first
2015-10-30 14:41 pishifat: for the rhyhtm variation aesthetic thing
2015-10-30 14:42 pishifat: dont change every measure's red tick thing to a 1/1 slider
2015-10-30 14:42 pishifat: just in case you were
2015-10-30 14:42 pishifat: that's like 2 much
2015-10-30 14:42 Strategas: well yea
2015-10-30 14:42 Strategas: that's obvious
2015-10-30 14:42 pishifat: i dont know what's obvious
2015-10-30 14:42 pishifat: next
2015-10-30 14:42 pishifat: is the thing i just looked up now
2015-10-30 14:42 pishifat: p/4579185
2015-10-30 14:43 pishifat: where he says
2015-10-30 14:43 pishifat: absolute spacing
2015-10-30 14:43 pishifat: at 20:50
2015-10-30 14:43 pishifat: if you can do that
2015-10-30 14:43 pishifat: your map will be sex
2015-10-30 14:43 pishifat: easiest way to understand this is
2015-10-30 14:44 pishifat: look at any monstrata map
2015-10-30 14:44 Strategas: well DS not even equal spacing
2015-10-30 14:44 Strategas: what it means?
2015-10-30 14:44 Strategas: if sliders are involved
2015-10-30 14:44 pishifat: no00:19:292 (6,7,1,2,3,4) -
2015-10-30 14:45 pishifat: the no
2015-10-30 14:45 pishifat: shouldnt be there
2015-10-30 14:45 pishifat: so that pattern
2015-10-30 14:45 pishifat: you see how you have
2015-10-30 14:45 pishifat: same spacing everywhere
2015-10-30 14:45 pishifat: between objects
2015-10-30 14:45 pishifat: just visually
2015-10-30 14:45 Strategas: ye
2015-10-30 14:45 pishifat: if that were your
2015-10-30 14:45 pishifat: "absolute spacing"
2015-10-30 14:46 pishifat: you would make it similar to like 00:24:092 (2,3,4) -
2015-10-30 14:46 pishifat: by moving 4 closer to 2
2015-10-30 14:46 pishifat: so it would be same distance of https://i.gyazo.com/97aee589762467fe9d4 ... 737685.png
2015-10-30 14:46 pishifat: tail to 3
2015-10-30 14:46 pishifat: and 4 to the head/tail of 2
2015-10-30 14:46 pishifat: does that make any sense
2015-10-30 14:46 pishifat: then like 00:25:635 (4,5,1) -
2015-10-30 14:46 pishifat: https://i.gyazo.com/026975c14ea3e8cb194 ... 7a978a.png
2015-10-30 14:47 pishifat: that is what he's talking about
2015-10-30 14:47 Strategas: 3 and 4 should be even spacing from the slider end?
2015-10-30 14:47 pishifat: https://i.gyazo.com/8405ab2292c15aa6563 ... a6fa3e.png
2015-10-30 14:47 pishifat: red lines are the same length
2015-10-30 14:47 pishifat: that's all it means
2015-10-30 14:48 pishifat: if you can do that you can create super clean maps
2015-10-30 14:48 Strategas: k
2015-10-30 14:48 Strategas: got that
2015-10-30 14:48 pishifat: so like 00:29:235 (1,2) - would be the same thing, as in blanketing it at the red line's distance
2015-10-30 14:48 pishifat: instead of close
2015-10-30 14:48 pishifat: k
2015-10-30 14:48 pishifat: k
2015-10-30 14:48 pishifat: k
2015-10-30 14:48 Strategas: yea
2015-10-30 14:49 Strategas: or i can just move
2015-10-30 14:49 Strategas: 3 away
2015-10-30 14:49 Strategas: from slider end
2015-10-30 14:49 Strategas: basicly it has to be same lenght
2015-10-30 14:49 pishifat: ideally it's the same length
2015-10-30 14:49 pishifat: throughout the whole map
2015-10-30 14:49 pishifat: like
2015-10-30 14:49 pishifat: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/814457 Apocalyptica - Reign of Fear]
2015-10-30 14:49 pishifat: the
2015-10-30 14:49 pishifat: bubble diff
2015-10-30 14:49 pishifat: and the cs5 diff
2015-10-30 14:50 pishifat: they have different sized absolute spacing things
2015-10-30 14:50 pishifat: it's a part of that visual structure bs i tried talking about months ago
2015-10-30 14:53 pishifat: does that sense
2015-10-30 14:54 Strategas: so in the given patern
2015-10-30 14:54 Strategas: http://i.imgur.com/s0IBOW5.png
2015-10-30 14:54 Strategas: this is absolute spacing
2015-10-30 14:54 pishifat: yes
2015-10-30 14:54 Strategas: 00:29:235 (1,2,3) -
2015-10-30 14:54 pishifat: in context of whole map
2015-10-30 14:54 pishifat: it's wh tho
2015-10-30 14:55 Strategas: wh?
2015-10-30 14:55 pishifat: what
2015-10-30 14:55 pishifat: wh=what
2015-10-30 14:55 pishifat: it's weird
2015-10-30 14:55 pishifat: k
2015-10-30 14:56 Strategas: you linked me that blanket right
2015-10-30 14:56 pishifat: yep
2015-10-30 14:56 Strategas: so I gave a ss how it's suppose to look instead
2015-10-30 14:56 Strategas: right
2015-10-30 14:56 pishifat: oOH
2015-10-30 14:56 Strategas: as an example
2015-10-30 14:56 Strategas: atm the 3 is far down
2015-10-30 14:56 pishifat: the aboslute spacing thing
2015-10-30 14:56 pishifat: is referring to
2015-10-30 14:57 pishifat: whole sections of the song
2015-10-30 14:57 pishifat: not like individual patterns usually
2015-10-30 14:57 pishifat: so if that small spacing were the absolute spacing you used for the section
2015-10-30 14:57 pishifat: it would work
2015-10-30 14:57 Strategas: well I used the same stuff everywhere so it's likely to be the same thing
2015-10-30 14:58 Strategas: but I got it now
2015-10-30 14:58 Strategas: now it really makes sense
2015-10-30 14:59 pishifat: does it now
2015-10-30 14:59 pishifat: thatsgood
2015-10-30 14:59 Strategas: however I still might mess it up a bit since I never looked at the absolute thing
2015-10-30 15:00 pishifat: even if you screw it up soemtimes
2015-10-30 15:00 pishifat: if most of the map is like that
2015-10-30 15:00 pishifat: it'll be good
2015-10-30 15:00 Strategas: ah okay
2015-10-30 15:00 Strategas: well it's probably hard to notice anyway
2015-10-30 15:00 Strategas: unless it's really off
2015-10-30 15:01 pishifat: like it is now B)
2015-10-30 15:01 pishifat: anyway
2015-10-30 15:01 pishifat: copy paste
2015-10-30 15:01 pishifat: 00:03:520 (3,4) - general thing like if you're going for this kind of movement into the slider, make the curve be like lower than the actual object. supports more [https://i.gyazo.com/75f860ac5e639427379bf9b7d6321c9c.gif]fluid motion] (and doesnt affect people who snap)
2015-10-30 15:01 Strategas: so the absolute spacing is suppose to be even in the whole patern or in the whole map?
2015-10-30 15:02 Strategas: uh
2015-10-30 15:02 Strategas: phrased it wrong
2015-10-30 15:02 pishifat: using smaller absolute spacing in calmer sections
2015-10-30 15:02 pishifat: and larger in like kiais
2015-10-30 15:02 pishifat: is common
2015-10-30 15:03 pishifat: about that long sentence earlier
2015-10-30 15:03 pishifat: https://i.gyazo.com/9f2c0b90711a1a85d44 ... a61948.png is like good for that
2015-10-30 15:03 pishifat: and
2015-10-30 15:03 pishifat: the motion link
2015-10-30 15:03 pishifat: is supposed to say fluid motion
2015-10-30 15:04 Strategas: ah
2015-10-30 15:04 pishifat: 02:26:149 (3,4) - 02:27:177 (1,2) - examples of bad
2015-10-30 15:05 pishifat: 02:36:777 (1,2) - 03:13:806 (1,2) - same idea but slider to next object
2015-10-30 15:05 pishifat: 02:26:663 (5,6) - 02:34:377 (2,3) - example of good
2015-10-30 15:05 pishifat: 01:59:920 (2,3,4) - same kind of idea for streams into sliders
2015-10-30 15:06 Strategas: yep I can see they need a bit of rotating
2015-10-30 15:06 Strategas: 02:26:149 (3,4) -
2015-10-30 15:06 Strategas: don't get this one though
2015-10-30 15:06 Strategas: slider needs to be more rotated
2015-10-30 15:06 pishifat: 3 into 4
2015-10-30 15:06 Strategas: to go more upwards/
2015-10-30 15:07 pishifat: ya
2015-10-30 15:07 pishifat: more so that
2015-10-30 15:07 pishifat: the head of it is pointing below 3
2015-10-30 15:07 pishifat: that doesnt make sense um
2015-10-30 15:07 pishifat: flow with 02:25:806 (1,2,3) - is clockwise
2015-10-30 15:08 pishifat: so sliderbody being like
2015-10-30 15:08 pishifat: where it is
2015-10-30 15:08 pishifat: fuck explaining things
2015-10-30 15:08 pishifat: rotate it
2015-10-30 15:08 Strategas: yes
2015-10-30 15:08 Strategas: :DDD
2015-10-30 15:08 Strategas: dw I got it
2015-10-30 15:08 pishifat: gud
2015-10-30 15:08 Strategas: just didn't see one thing
2015-10-30 15:10 pishifat: thats kinda everything
2015-10-30 15:10 Strategas: wot
2015-10-30 15:11 pishifat: everything i had to say
2015-10-30 15:11 pishifat: = that
2015-10-30 15:11 pishifat: excluding
2015-10-30 15:11 pishifat: your sliderart sux hardcore
2015-10-30 15:12 Strategas: well absolute spacing is not hard to fix just a lot of them, motion might miss some I hope I won't, the hardest will be the rhythm changing
2015-10-30 15:12 Strategas: I didn't make those sliders though
2015-10-30 15:12 Strategas: if you're talking about
2015-10-30 15:12 Strategas: 01:07:292 (3) -
2015-10-30 15:12 Strategas: this whole part
2015-10-30 15:12 pishifat: yea
2015-10-30 15:12 pishifat: those are lol
2015-10-30 15:13 Strategas: I had a feeling they needed changing but I got kinda used to them
2015-10-30 15:13 Strategas: and they didn't bother anymore
2015-10-30 15:13 pishifat: nobody's really gonna say you need to change them
2015-10-30 15:13 pishifat: cuz like people do lots of dumb stuff with long sliders
2015-10-30 15:13 pishifat: if you know how to make them good looking tho do it
2015-10-30 15:14 Strategas: not very experienced but I think I can test around to see what works
2015-10-30 15:14 pishifat: well im gonna look at the other map posted in my queue then
2015-10-30 15:14 Strategas: okay
2015-10-30 15:14 Strategas: thank you very much
2015-10-30 15:14 pishifat: when youre done with your fix stuff i can look again
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I wonder if there are any better fitting drum whistles for this

Edit: yes there is
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Some quick things to mention before #2

[Galaxy of Dreams]

  1. 00:08:320 (4,1) - Jump felt random and unsupported by the music xPP
  2. 00:27:863 (1,2,3) - Flow a bit less than ideal here D: A jump from 2>3 would be cool.
  3. 00:38:749 - I think a triplet would fit better here than on 00:38:920 (2) - . Generally triplets feel good when they end on white ticks because they're a means to emphasize beats like jumps/flowbreaks. When 1/4 rhythm is kind of ambiguous like here having them end on white ticks is better imo.
  4. 01:26:149 (4,5) - Weird you dont blanket here but you do so with your other patterns prior to this.
  5. 01:30:435 (1,2,3,4,5) - These jumps felt really big for a section thats supposed to be calm/simple. I'd make this a pentagon pattern rather than a star.
  6. 01:50:149 - 01:54:263 - This section felt a lot simpler than 01:39:177 - 01:47:406 - etc.. cuz you don't use as many 1/4's even tho the music is kind of building up.
  7. 02:12:092 (1) - 1/2 slider + circle fits better imo D:
  8. 03:06:606 (5,6,1) - Really sharp angle from 5>6>1 D::
  9. 04:15:520 (1,2,3,4) - A larger jump from 3>4 would fit the emphasis of the song better. 1>2 seems too big anyways since 2 doesn't really land on a very significant beat like 4.
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monstrata wrote:

Some quick things to mention before #2

[Galaxy of Dreams]

  1. 00:08:320 (4,1) - Jump felt random and unsupported by the music xPP rip
  2. 00:27:863 (1,2,3) - Flow a bit less than ideal here D: A jump from 2>3 would be cool. Tried something
  3. 00:38:749 - I think a triplet would fit better here than on 00:38:920 (2) - . Generally triplets feel good when they end on white ticks because they're a means to emphasize beats like jumps/flowbreaks. When 1/4 rhythm is kind of ambiguous like here having them end on white ticks is better imo. ya ok changed the other one too
  4. 01:26:149 (4,5) - Weird you dont blanket here but you do so with your other patterns prior to this. It was a blanket though, made it more normal I guess.
  5. 01:30:435 (1,2,3,4,5) - These jumps felt really big for a section thats supposed to be calm/simple. I'd make this a pentagon pattern rather than a star. Only left the strong beat as a jump then
  6. 01:50:149 - 01:54:263 - This section felt a lot simpler than 01:39:177 - 01:47:406 - etc.. cuz you don't use as many 1/4's even tho the music is kind of building up. Added some 1/4s
  7. 02:12:092 (1) - 1/2 slider + circle fits better imo D: yeah I had that way before, but I wanted to put much more emphasis on the downbeat
  8. 03:06:606 (5,6,1) - Really sharp angle from 5>6>1 D:: imo fits because of the strong beat + vocal
  9. 04:15:520 (1,2,3,4) - A larger jump from 3>4 would fit the emphasis of the song better. 1>2 seems too big anyways since 2 doesn't really land on a very significant beat like 4. Made the distance to 4 largest, I'm keeping the distance from 1 to 2 cause I focused on drums and snares the most during the song
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Looks fine for me.
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