14:08 Kuki: m4m? >v<
14:09 Kuki: you already modded my map but i remapped :<
14:12 Peachtrees: which one?
14:13 Kuki: mitis living colour
14:13 Kuki: I can link if you likeee
14:13 Peachtrees: ye would be cool c:
14:14 Kuki: c:
14:14 Kuki: I can irc urs soon
14:14 Kuki: in game atm csgo
14:15 Peachtrees: we can irc as long as it doesn't end up being 1 pixel stacks/blankets only ><
14:17 Kuki: yea sorry i only do that with polished sets to polish further lmao
14:17 Kuki: and fill mod since i can't find much
14:18 Peachtrees: ye but it's not like I can't find those myself if I haven't fixed em than I either don't feel like bothering with it or they're just not noticeable in-game
14:18 Peachtrees: :/
14:18 Kuki: yeah idk
14:18 Kuki: i like my maps to be perf
14:18 Kuki: but that's just me i guess
14:20 Peachtrees: I think it'll take a lot of polishing for ANY map to be in a state were 1 pixel stack are the one thing that is keeping the map from being perfect
14:20 Peachtrees: as long as there're more important issues to fix
14:20 Peachtrees: I'd rather have these dealt with first
14:20 Peachtrees: might just be me though
14:21 Kuki: idk for me I like doing it
14:21 Kuki: cause it looks nice in editor
14:21 Kuki: :3
14:22 Peachtrees: yeah I usually do that if there's nothign else for me to fix and I feel like the map is about to be bubbled
14:22 Peachtrees: cuz doing that and then having to change rythm/pattern anyways is kinda pointless to me
14:23 Peachtrees: like oh your rythm is really questionable and your flow is mediocre at best but your stacks are on point wheew
14:26 Kuki: yeah i guess
14:26 Kuki: good habit to get into cause it's not much effort for me now
14:26 Kuki: and if i dont have to change it's perfect
14:26 Peachtrees: ya
14:26 Peachtrees: would only bother with it after you're all set and done with rythm/flow though
14:27 Peachtrees: not that the map has to look all bad and sloppy lol
14:27 Kuki: then it's too much effort and not worth it
14:28 Kuki: it's like doing the dishes every day
14:28 Kuki: instead of letting them pile up for a week
14:28 Kuki: and doing them all at once
14:30 Peachtrees: honestly fixing like 10 1 pixel stacks for a Diff is like 5 mins of works so I guess I don't mind doing all the dishes at once?
14:30 Peachtrees: I mean it's like strg+right arrow once or smth like that
14:30 Peachtrees: it's a no-brainer
14:31 Kuki: still a lot of time
14:31 Kuki: instead of like
14:31 Kuki: 1 second
14:31 Kuki: so you dont have to stack em up
14:32 Peachtrees: i still don't really see the point of doing that for a map that is most likely going to end up looking very different anyways
14:32 Peachtrees: all that effort
14:32 Peachtrees: is going to go to waste
14:32 Kuki: not usually
14:32 Kuki: maybe bits and pieces
14:32 Kuki: but then you fix that too
14:32 Kuki: as soon as it's there
14:33 Kuki: instead of after mods
14:35 Peachtrees: yeah of course if I know that something will not change then yes doing that is fine but reaching that point for a map will usually take me a long time or until the map is bubbled/very very close to qualified
14:35 Kuki: i'm close on mine now so i guess that's okay then
14:36 Peachtrees: well if that's the case then I guess doing that is kay lol
14:37 Kuki: lol
14:37 Kuki: i can irc soooooooooooooooon
14:39 Peachtrees: would rather have your map first
14:39 Peachtrees: to see if I feel like modding it c:
14:40 Kuki: think i can re-kds for remap?
14:40 *Kuki is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/698776 MitiS - Living Color]
14:40 Kuki: i hope you like it >////<
14:42 Peachtrees: can probably re-kds if it was a complete remap
14:42 Peachtrees: will see if I feel like modding
14:42 Kuki: it's mostly
14:42 Kuki: all my parts are redone
14:42 Kuki: and mophs are modified
14:42 Kuki: i'll just kds
14:42 Peachtrees: not sure if I'm in the mood for IRC right now though >w<
14:42 Kuki: and then
14:42 Kuki: see
14:42 Kuki: lol
14:45 Kuki: o
14:45 Kuki: how about now
14:45 Kuki: its been 2 mins
14:45 Peachtrees: nah
14:45 Peachtrees: don't really want to IRC atm
14:45 Peachtrees: kinda sleepy
14:45 Kuki: ok
14:45 Kuki: it's 1245 here
14:46 Kuki: i'm gonna head to bed in like
14:46 Kuki: an hour or so
14:46 Kuki: got school tomorrow so not too late lmao
14:46 Peachtrees: eh not sure if I feel like modding this song anyways imo :/
14:46 Peachtrees: plus I'm not really into IRC
14:46 Kuki: no problem
14:46 Peachtrees: not going to be in an hour
14:46 Peachtrees: or a day
14:46 Peachtrees: or a week
14:46 Peachtrees: I just kinda think that forum post is a bit better :/
14:46 Kuki: you mean giving or recieving
14:46 Kuki: or both
14:47 Kuki: i guess
14:47 Peachtrees: i don't mind giving IRC i guess
14:47 Peachtrees: but recieving forum post is way better to me
14:47 Peachtrees: allows me ot properly justify
14:47 Peachtrees: changes
14:47 Peachtrees: or why I didn't apply stuff
14:47 Kuki: wouldnt it be better to talk to someone real time tho?
14:47 Peachtrees: because with an IRC I always feel like responding to everything while just getting flooded with requests
14:47 Kuki: i mean
14:47 Kuki: i don't even reply to mods anymore
14:47 Kuki: too busy
14:48 Peachtrees: well I think not replying to mods is just rood :/
14:48 Kuki: yeah lots of people are like that
14:48 Kuki: most mods are irc
14:48 Kuki: and I usually irc with them beforehand
14:48 Kuki: I encourage people to talk to be if they have issues but yeah
14:48 Kuki: I was away from the mapping scene for a few days
14:48 Kuki: and when i came back i had ~10 mods
14:49 Peachtrees: well no need to make an extra reply for IRC but if I'd make a forum post and someone doesn't bother responding then it has probably been the last time modding one of his maps
14:49 Kuki: replying would've taken too long
14:49 Kuki: I didn't know it was such a big deal
14:49 Peachtrees: well it is to me
14:49 Kuki: idk i'd like to
14:49 Kuki: that's why i prefer irc
14:49 Peachtrees: probably depends in the modder
14:49 Kuki: so i can talk to people and get to know them during it
14:49 Peachtrees: some people probably don't mind
14:49 Peachtrees: I just kinda like getting actual replies
14:50 Peachtrees: it helps me to improve my modding
14:50 Kuki: yeah i get that
14:50 Peachtrees: and I think it kinda helps the mapper to because spending more time applying a mod might make you overthink a thing or too while applying
14:50 Kuki: i did a forum post today
14:50 Kuki: first one in maybe
14:50 Peachtrees: if you're just rushing through the mod to get done with it I feel like you might skip a thing or two
14:50 Kuki: half a year?
14:51 Kuki: i feel like i do that more with forum posts
14:51 Kuki: cause they're too long
14:51 Kuki: it's like a wall of text
14:51 Kuki: instead of a couple messages at a time
14:51 Kuki: and you can ask questions
14:51 Kuki: instead of asking in the thread and waiting a few days for a reply
14:51 Kuki: but yeah
14:51 Peachtrees: I don't mind giving you a short IRC if that's what you prefer
14:52 Kuki: i prefer irc personally because you can ask questions, and my favorite part is actually getting to know the person during or at the end
14:52 Peachtrees: well
14:52 Kuki: i've met probably about fifty or so people that i'm friends with now via modding
14:52 Peachtrees: I often ended up discussing a single pattern
14:52 Kuki: people i never thought i would meet
14:52 Peachtrees: for like 10 minutes
14:52 Kuki: yeah time is a factor i guess
14:52 Peachtrees: when it was really obvious that something was wrong/needed fixing
14:52 Peachtrees: and then I just end up
14:52 Kuki: but forum posts do take a while too
14:52 Peachtrees: not wanting to mod anymore
14:52 Kuki: yeah
14:53 Peachtrees: cuz the person is obviously not willing to change anything
14:53 Peachtrees: about the map
14:53 Kuki: yeah i hate people like that
14:53 Peachtrees: makes the whole modding just look really pointless and frustrating
14:53 Kuki: "guys i need mods" "okay i'll put in a nc out of 100 things you suggested"
14:53 Kuki: yeah
14:53 Kuki: i change 90% of everything in mods
14:53 Kuki: because i want to improve
14:53 Kuki: it's good to just stick to one or two things
14:53 Kuki: and not budging on those
14:53 Kuki: keeping those
14:54 Kuki: and then giving freedom to everything else to be changed
14:54 Kuki: but anyways i'm free for an irc if you'd like now
14:55 Peachtrees: I'll just look at the map and point out the stuff that I can find on the top of my head
14:55 Peachtrees: like the no-brainers
14:55 Kuki: mk
14:55 Kuki: all i need really
14:55 Peachtrees: 00:22:183 (1) - would be a bit nicer
14:55 Kuki: bubble soon thoooo
14:55 Peachtrees: if this would stick out a bit more
14:56 Peachtrees: I mean
14:56 Peachtrees: 00:21:666 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
14:56 Peachtrees: these two are basically the same right
14:56 Peachtrees: it kinda makes the one linked above lack a bit of impact
14:56 Kuki: they are
14:56 Peachtrees: which I think would be appropriate for the new track
14:56 Kuki: yeah I see that
14:56 Kuki: I wanted to blend into the new track
14:56 Kuki: without losing the sort of
14:57 Kuki: structure
14:57 Kuki: I had
14:57 Kuki: I could reduce the scale perhaps?
14:57 Kuki: any suggestions?
14:57 Peachtrees: trying to think of something
14:57 Peachtrees: oh also
14:57 Peachtrees: 00:21:666 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
14:57 Kuki: mk
14:57 Peachtrees: 00:21:321 (1,1) - **
14:58 Peachtrees: both of these NCs
14:58 Peachtrees: needed?
14:58 Peachtrees: and it's like 4.00 jump which is kinda big I guess but eh whatever
14:58 Kuki: that's my bad, there should be n0 nc on the pattern
14:58 Kuki: and yeah I do want to change the jump a little
14:59 Kuki: 00:21:666 (2,3,4) - something like this maybe?
http://puu.sh/j5ZYG/c8d81776b4.jpg15:00 Peachtrees:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/341530915:00 Peachtrees: something like this is what I was thinking of
15:00 Peachtrees: lets you change the flow here without being very uncomfortable
15:00 Peachtrees: which I think is nice for the new track
15:00 Kuki: I can't really change mophs part though
15:00 Peachtrees: not sure were 5 and 6 go though
15:00 Peachtrees: oh
15:00 Peachtrees: 00:21:666 (1,3) -
15:01 Peachtrees: stacked
15:01 Kuki: the triangle there that i put earlier
15:01 Kuki: does fit quite well
15:01 Peachtrees: 00:21:839 (2,4) - stacked
15:01 Peachtrees: well use it if you want to
15:01 Peachtrees: it's your map after all
15:01 Kuki: mm
15:01 Kuki: I think i'll stick with the triangle
15:01 Kuki: cause I think it's better that way, smaller shape and it leads onto (1) well
15:01 Kuki: without changing moph's part
15:02 Kuki: thanks for pointing that out though >,<
15:03 Peachtrees: 00:25:977 (6) - would've personally had this continue the triangly movement
15:03 Peachtrees: though eh I guess that's just me
15:03 Kuki: not my part there >,<
15:03 Kuki: sorry I need to do sb tomorrow
15:03 Kuki: every second part is mophs
15:03 Kuki: 00:55:287 - mine
15:03 Peachtrees: so I'm not modding these?
15:03 Kuki: 01:39:417 - mine
15:03 Kuki: 02:45:624 - mine
15:03 Kuki: 03:40:796 - mine
15:04 Kuki: 04:24:934 - mine
15:04 Kuki: 05:09:072 - mine
15:04 Kuki: you'd have to do a forum post if you wanted to mod his parts too
15:04 Kuki: but you don't need to worry about it if you don't feel like it
15:04 Kuki: it's no big deal anyways
15:04 Kuki: can always get more mods
15:04 Kuki: well, am getting a couple now
15:04 Kuki: lol
15:04 Peachtrees: I mean you said you prefer IRC so I guess doing it this way is more convenient for both of us?
15:04 *Peachtrees is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/698776 MitiS - Living Color [Moki]]
15:05 Peachtrees: um oops
15:05 Peachtrees: 01:00:115 (1,2) -
15:05 Peachtrees: 7.7 jump
15:05 Peachtrees: between these
15:05 Peachtrees: during a slow paced part
15:05 Peachtrees: of the song
15:05 Peachtrees: I mean
15:05 Peachtrees: yeah I really don't htink doing this is a good idea
15:05 Kuki: I guess
15:06 Kuki: it was read and played fine but people have said that and I see it too
15:06 Kuki: i got carried away with stacking it
15:06 Peachtrees: you can still have it stacked
15:06 Kuki: here, fixed
15:06 Kuki:
http://puu.sh/j60nx/7262c54f95.jpg15:06 Kuki: stacked sliderend
15:06 Kuki: yup
15:06 Kuki: I didn't realise that initially when mapping I guess >v<
15:07 Peachtrees:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3415331 coulda done something like this
15:07 Peachtrees: if you wanted to keep the orignial stack
15:07 Peachtrees: 01:04:597 (3,4) -
15:07 Peachtrees: then this is kinda the opposite to me
15:07 Peachtrees: with how explosive the piano sounds
15:07 Peachtrees: kinda weird to making this a little jumpy
15:08 Kuki: I wanted the flow to go backwards there
15:08 Kuki: yeah
15:08 Kuki: 01:04:597 (3,4) - how would you suggest I change
15:08 Kuki: to fit the earlier jump
15:08 Kuki: cause I think i do want to keep them
15:09 Peachtrees: hm
15:11 Peachtrees:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3415342 is the best I can come up with without re-arranging anything and at the top of my head
15:12 Peachtrees: 01:15:632 (3) - here idk if you'd want the downbeat to be on a tail, especially with how strong the piano on this is
15:13 Kuki: 01:04:597 (3,4) - like this maybe?
http://puu.sh/j60JP/bd9fe29bae.jpg15:14 Kuki: fixed
15:14 Kuki:
http://puu.sh/j60Mp/a633942ec5.jpg15:14 Peachtrees: kinda worried that having the same spacing between 1/4 and 1/2 might be abit odd
15:14 Kuki: true
15:14 Kuki: 01:04:942 (4) - maybe just stack on sliderend?
15:15 Peachtrees: on 01:04:597 (3) - ?
15:16 Kuki: yup
15:16 Kuki: sorry should have specified
15:16 Peachtrees: wouldn't that be the same pattern as before then
15:16 Peachtrees: like wasn't the point to not stack them
15:17 Kuki: shit was it
15:17 Kuki: idek
15:17 Kuki: maybe stack on (5) then?
15:18 Peachtrees: idk 7.7 would be a little forced I think as a jump
15:18 Peachtrees: would have to move 3 closer
15:18 Peachtrees: if you wanted to stack these I think
15:18 Kuki: it's only 4.1 there
15:18 Kuki: I guess
15:18 Kuki: yeah
15:19 Peachtrees: shows as 7.7 for me probably cuz I have 3 placed differently
15:19 Kuki:
http://puu.sh/j614n/502c5f1e8b.jpg15:19 Kuki: yeah
15:19 Kuki: I sorta blanketed it
15:19 Peachtrees: ye I had it differently
15:19 Peachtrees: 01:42:183 (1) -
15:19 Peachtrees: would play ALOT
15:19 Peachtrees: better
15:19 Peachtrees: if ctrl+h
15:19 Peachtrees: to something like
15:20 Peachtrees:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/341537415:22 Kuki: yeah I kinda wanted it to be a bit awkward ther
15:22 Kuki: e
15:22 Kuki: since it was first piano note and also a bit slower feeling since it's a longer slider
15:24 Peachtrees: keep it if you want
15:24 Peachtrees: I just think it's really odd
15:24 Peachtrees: 01:45:977 (7,1) - would swap these
15:24 Kuki: and if i ctrl+h then 01:42:701 (2) - doesnt flow
15:24 Kuki: so i'd have to redo a bunch
15:24 Kuki: ;-;
15:25 Kuki: you mean in place or time?
15:25 Kuki: hang on gotta take a couple shota
15:25 Kuki: shots******
15:25 Kuki: lmfao
15:25 Peachtrees: in time
15:25 Peachtrees: and I'd swap 01:46:666 (5,6) - too
15:25 Peachtrees: and then ahve
15:25 Kuki: then what about piano note??
15:25 Peachtrees: piano note?
15:26 Kuki: but i cant
15:26 Kuki: cause then it'd be two long sliders
15:26 Kuki: which'd be weird
15:26 Peachtrees: ???????
15:26 Peachtrees: ???????????????????????
15:27 Kuki: if i swap in time there will be a 1/1 note at 01:48:218 (2) -
15:27 Kuki: at 01:47:011 (7) - **
15:27 Peachtrees: wait what the fuck
15:27 Peachtrees: taht's not even what I linked lmao
15:27 Peachtrees: what happened there
15:28 Kuki: lmao
15:28 Kuki: idk
15:28 Peachtrees: 01:45:977 (1,2) -
15:28 Peachtrees: is what I would swap
15:28 Peachtrees: and 01:46:666 (4,5) -
15:28 Peachtrees: and then ahve 01:47:011 (6) - face downward instead
15:29 Peachtrees: 01:49:942 (1,2,1,2) - stack off B)
15:30 Peachtrees: 01:58:735 (1,2) - don't really wanna nazi out on blankets too much but I really think this would look ALOT neater if done properly
15:31 Kuki: yea
15:31 Peachtrees: 03:13:046 (4) - not sure if you'd want this to land on a downbeat
15:32 Peachtrees: pretty sure having this clickable is nicer with how few strong sounds there are during this part
15:32 Kuki: i tink it worked itho
15:32 Kuki: cpoaus
15:32 Kuki: cause *
15:32 Kuki: if the
15:32 Kuki: of the
15:32 Kuki: cause of the voice
15:32 Kuki: i mapped to vaocla
15:32 Kuki: vocals ther
15:32 Kuki: e
15:33 Peachtrees: oh the slight whispering in the background that is barely audible against the piano
15:33 Kuki: lmao
15:33 Kuki: notr really
15:35 Peachtrees: would STILL be more appropriate to have this clickable even when following vocals
15:35 Peachtrees: w.e.
15:35 Kuki: igujess
15:35 Kuki: i guess
15:35 Kuki: yea
15:35 Peachtrees: 03:17:356 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - honestly don't really see how this reflects on the song
15:36 Kuki: wathca mean
15:36 Peachtrees: with how jumpy this is
15:37 Peachtrees: feels waaaay to fast to me
15:37 Kuki: is it
15:37 Kuki: it is*
15:37 Kuki: a little biut
15:37 Kuki: but it's okay wiuth the voice
15:37 Kuki: it would fit much better
15:37 Kuki: moph hjad the same pattern
15:37 Kuki: and used is quite a bit
15:37 Kuki: but he changed it
15:37 Peachtrees: where in the map is it?
15:37 Kuki: and i dont really wanana change mine
15:37 Kuki: it's not there anymroe
15:37 Kuki: he redid
15:38 Peachtrees: 03:24:080 (2) - same with the downbeat lmao
15:39 Kuki: but it's mapped to vocals not beat
15:39 Kuki: or both idk
15:39 Peachtrees: yeah I still think the vocals that land on the downbeat are a bit stronger than the one landing on the red beat
15:39 Peachtrees: I mean if that's what you were going for I still don't thing either of them are stronger than the piano here
15:41 Kuki: i wanted to map both
15:41 Kuki: cause we do that through the whole map
15:42 Peachtrees: 04:41:321 (4,1) - feels abit too close especially with how much momentum is build-up through these gradually increasing jumps you're using previously
15:42 Peachtrees: 04:44:080 (4,5) - this too would personally space this out a little more
15:44 Peachtrees: well I guess that's all that i can find at the top of my head that isn't too nit picky
15:44 Kuki: how's this
http://puu.sh/j62ER/eda7fac5c4.jpg15:44 Kuki: yeah
15:44 Kuki: wicked
15:44 Kuki: thanks for the ma-p
15:45 Kuki: nmikd
15:45 Kuki: mod
15:45 Kuki: i'm gonna watch some tv and sleep
15:45 Kuki: if you want post on forum and i'll se if iI canb kds you