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Savage Genius - Forever... (TV Size)

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Mystearica
Mostly ok. Following percussion here would've been nicer rhythm I think. Don't really get what some things are mapped to but I guess overall it's not a huge problem.

[Hard]

00:38:637 (1) - This slider is just odd rhythmically, end it earlier + more circles or sliders imo

[Sekuyi]

00:32:798 (1,2) - Stack these together so the mirrored 3 is more intuitive? It's not really a problem. You can leave it.

Easy and Normal are the best diffs imo :)
Topic Starter
roflninja
Done, thanks
Sekuyi

Mystearica wrote:

[Sekuyi]

00:32:798 (1,2) - Stack these together so the mirrored 3 is more intuitive? It's not really a problem. You can leave it. done
thanks. I had no clue what to do with them :D

Download: Savage Genius - Forever (TV Size) (roflninja) [Sekuyi's Hard].osu
TheVileOne
Easy

00:32:194 (2,3) - This is just a nit pick, but this angle is a little harsh.

00:32:999 (3) - I think that this can be slightly more centered with the notes around it. Turn grid snap off and shift it around some.

Normal

00:15:885 (1) - Ugly slider.

01:04:410 (8,1,2) - I suggest that you curve 8 inward so it's pointing at note 2 and moving note 1 to the center of the screen.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/16655

Sekuyi's Hard

Fine

Hard

00:38:637 (1) - Center this?

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/16656

Sallad's Insane

01:22:227 (3) - New combo?

Other than that it's a really fun and well made map.


Star for this for sure.
Topic Starter
roflninja
Thanks, did all those, will wait to see what sallad says about his dif
Sallad4ever
I'm glad you like my diff this time TheVileOne :)
I asked ninja to change the combo for me, Thanks for the modding
Real1
Rofl, a ninja! Oh, and hi Sallad! :P

General
  1. BPM should probably be 149.000, not 149.001 as it is now!
Easy
  1. 00:11:254 (1) - Should start at the previous red tick and be a slider that goes on to the white tick instead!
  2. 00:22:328 (5) - Consider starting this on red tick and then extending it half a beat since you moved it back :P
Normal
  1. 00:47:295 (1) - Finish in spinner?
  2. 00:52:329 (1) - End with Finish instead of whistle?
Sekuyi's Hard
  1. 00:15:885 (1) - Add a hitsound on this spinner? Whistle or Finish perhaps?
  2. 00:20:113 (1) - ^
  3. 00:28:570 (1) - ^
  4. 01:17:495 (1) - Remove this note?
[Hard]
  1. 01:04:207 (6) - Remove this note and start spinner here instead?
Sallad's Insane
  1. 01:04:207 (12) - Delete this note and start spinner here instead?
  2. 01:22:227 (1) - Place it so it's on the following (7)
Star.
Sekuyi

Real1 wrote:

Sekuyi's Hard
  1. 00:15:885 (1) - Add a hitsound on this spinner? Whistle or Finish perhaps?
  2. 00:20:113 (1) - ^
  3. 00:28:570 (1) - ^
  4. 01:17:495 (1) - Remove this note?
Don't be mad at me :( But no to all :o
Krisom
Woah, lot's of difficulties x_x Well, short song :3

Ok, let's get this done.

[Easy]
Mostly hitsounds, I write in oragne non hitsound modding.
00:10:449 - Place a note here? Starting an Easy diff with a 1/2 note may be tricky.
00:11:657 (2) - Whistle the start
00:12:865 (3) - Whistle the repeat
00:14:073 (4) - Whistle
00:15:885 (1,2) - Merge them into just one long slider? I don't really feel that 1 and 2 flow that well in this diff...
00:18:100 (2) - Whistle the end
00:20:113 (3) - Unwhistle
00:21:321 (4) - Whistle the start
00:22:328 (5) - Why don't you make this start at 00:22:529? Less confusing IMO. Besides it's just the piano. Noone will care. Oh, and finish the end.
00:24:945 (3) - UNwhistle the end.
00:27:764 (4) - Whistle the start
00:28:972 (5) - If anything, a finish would suit the end better. Anyways, remove the whistle.
00:35:214 (6) - Finish the end.
00:43:871 (2) - Whistle both the end and start (DO NOT add a sliderwhistle)
00:45:080 (1) - Whistle the end.
00:45:885 (2) - Finish the start
00:50:717 (3) - I was expecting a finish at the end.
00:56:959 - This Kiai Time is not placed correctly, place it at 00:57:160
00:57:160 (1) - Finish
00:57:965 (2) - Remove both the sliderwhistle and the whistle at the start
00:58:771 (3) - Whistle the repeat, unfinish the end.
01:01:589 (3) - Whistle
01:01:992 (4) - I was expecting a finish at the end.
01:05:616 (1) - Whistle
01:05:616 (1) - Whistle the end
01:06:824 (3) - remove the finish at the end, place it at the start
01:08:032 (4) - ^
01:10:046 (1) - Finish the start, whistle the repeat and Unwhistle the end.
01:12:059 (3) - Whistle
01:12:462 (4) - UnWhistle
01:12:865 (1) - Whistle
01:13:267 (2) - Remove the whistle at the start, add it at the end.
01:14:073 (3) - ^
01:16:086 (4) - Whistle the start
01:17:697 (1) - Remove the sliderwhistle
01:21:321 (1) - Don't you think that a Normal finish would suit this spinner better than the soft one?


[Normal]
Same here~
00:10:449 - Place a note here? Though for a normal may not be mandatory, I think a circle with a finish would suit this place well.
Uhh, hitsound modding the whistles here would take some time, so I'll be lazy and post this...

You'll be safe if you follow this and unwhistle everything else. I'll point out some finishes though.
00:22:329 (1) - Finish the end.
00:29:174 (3) - Remove the sliderwhistle
00:34:611 (3) - If anything, the finish would suit the slider at the start, not at the end.
00:36:221 (1) - Remove the new combo anf finish
00:42:664 (2) - Remove the sliderwhistle
00:52:329 (1) - ^
00:56:959 - This Kiai Time is not placed correctly, place it at 00:57:160
00:57:161 (2) - Finish the start
01:06:826 (3) - ^
01:08:034 (5) - ^ (remove the finish at the end)
01:17:699 (1) - Remove the sliderwhistle.
01:21:321 (1) - Don't you think that a Normal finish would suit this spinner better than the soft one?
Well, nice

[Hard]
Same hitsounding suggestion than in normal. Follow the SAME finishes.
Remove all your sliderwhistles x_x (at this point I don't feel like pointing them all out D:)
The Kiai time is placed in the wrong place again. The kiai time should not start with the chorus lryciss, but with the chorus music. That being said, it should always start on a main beat.
01:01:992 (1,2,3,4,5) - This combo is silly. Besides, (5) should end at 01:04:009 -

[Sallad's]
he only thing I can suggest is that you make the spinner at the end slowly fade away with the music. The Kiai Time is fine here, and this is a great diff ^^!

[Seyuki's]
I'll be honest, I skipped this one, This took longer of what I expected. There's this Kiai time at 00:36:221 - wich bugs me, but it's ok (I guess), recheck it though.
00:23:335 (6) - Why a whistle and a finish at the same circle? Remove the whistle. (you do this in some other places as well, by example, 01:08:032 (6), recheck the map for stuff like this)
01:21:321 (1) - Don't you think that a Normal finish would suit this spinner better than the soft one?

Sallad's great. You follow too much the vocals in the easier diffs IMO, play a little more with the music and the beats. Though, overall, its a nice map. Recheck your hitsounds though, these kind of songs usually fllow the same pattern over and over again., so it's really easy to detect hitsounding problems (thankfully, at the same time, it's really easy to detect the hitsounding pattern)

Star!
Sekuyi

Krisom wrote:

[Seyuki's]
I'll be honest, I skipped this one, This took longer of what I expected. There's this Kiai time at 00:36:221 - wich bugs me, but it's ok (I guess), recheck it though. there's no prob with it
00:23:335 (6) - Why a whistle and a finish at the same circle? Remove the whistle. (you do this in some other places as well, by example, 01:08:032 (6), recheck the map for stuff like this) that's not done by mistake. there is a fine difference with the sound this way. so, no
01:21:321 (1) - Don't you think that a Normal finish would suit this spinner better than the soft one? nope
Topic Starter
roflninja
Thanks Krisom, im horrible at hitsounds :( , so ill work on that for a bit
vincerio
nice ~! go ahead :)
IceBeam
Hello.

[Easy]
00:10:449 (1) - Add some hitsound here?
00:43:871 (2) - Fix the shape of this slider.

[Hard]
00:34:610 (3) - Fix the shape.
00:38:234 (3) - Distance is a bit confusing here.Maybe place it down? Probably under the heart-shaped slider.
00:49:912 (4) - Allign with (2)?

Others seems well.

Good luck.
Sallad4ever
Sorry for the delay m(_ _)m

I've change all of the suggested above, except for the fade out. tbh because of the mp3 I can't find a good setting for the fade out :(
Download: Savage Genius - Forever (TV Size) (roflninja) [Sallad's Insane].osu

Thanks for the modding everyone :)
Topic Starter
roflninja
done, thanks everyone
braian5234
8-)
indyinyou
nice map :D
star 8-)
Zetsubou Sensei
Hello again! xD

It says that the songs name is Forever... (with the 3 periods following) I'd reccommend adding that in.

[Easy]
Seems fine.

[Normal]
00:42:664 (2) - extend this slider to end at 00:43:470
01:09:242 (x) - add a slider that extend to 01:09:645? (up to you)
Seems fine.

[Sekuyi's Hard]
Seems fine.

[Hard]
01:20:918 (x) - add a note here?
Seems fine.

[Sallad's Insane]
00:03:402 (x) - add a note here?
00:03:603 (x) - ^ same thing?
Seems fine.

Overall...Another great map xD! Well done.

~STAR + Kudosu Star~ Gogogo!!
Topic Starter
roflninja

Zetsubou Sensei wrote:

Hello again! xD

It says that the songs name is Forever... (with the 3 periods following) I'd reccommend adding that in. I'll consider it

[Normal]
00:42:664 (2) - extend this slider to end at 00:43:470 ok
01:09:242 (x) - add a slider that extend to 01:09:645? (up to you) sure!
Seems fine.

[Hard]
01:20:918 (x) - add a note here? done
Seems fine.
Thanks once again!
Firce777
This song is so good, may i have a taiko diff?
Firce777
Topic Starter
roflninja
added :)
lepidopodus
Random Taiko modding.

Firce777's Taiko
00:23:335 (3) - NO BIG NOTES IN 1/4 STREAM!
00:45:885 (1) - ^


Seriously, those notes makes patterns too hard to read, too hard to hit properly. Most Taiko mappers oppose those, and players hate those kind of notes. Change them into normal notes or delete a previous note.

(*sigh* Yeah, we need criteria about this but BAT never cares about Taiko map.)
Firce777
Sorry...
A little mistake :?
please update again, thanks :oops:

Download: Savage Genius - Forever (TV Size) (roflninja) [Firce777's Taiko].osu
Topic Starter
roflninja
updated
Mianki
Hey

Sekuyi's Hard:

01:17:495 (1) This felt a bit unnecessary. Delete it?

Hard:

00:16:288 (3) Distance snap
00:24:543 (3.4.5) ^
01:06:019 (3) ^
01:19:509 (4.5) Shape these more symmetrically?

Sallad's Insane:

00:10:449 (10) 1 grid up and right (or move circle (4) 1 grid down and right)

Star~
aabc271
Hi~
Here is my random Taiko mod~

Blue~ Critical issues, you must fix this
Purple~ I think you should fix this
Pink~ Suggestions only

[General]
Consider using BPM of 140.000 instead of 149.001 in all diffs?
I think the offset is a bit late. Maybe try ~756 in all diffs?
Remember to resnap all notes after changing BPM and offset~

[Firce777's Taiko]
00:23:335 (3) Do not use big notes in 1/4
00:45:885 (3) ^
Well i am not sure if Firce's diff has been updated properly because i still find big notes in the places above. ( lepidopodus has already mentioned that ) Maybe try to update the diff once more?
01:22:126 (7~16 , 1) I don't recommend using 1/4 + 1/6 like this since this is quite difficult.

The diff is OK overall, but maybe try to reduce some long and repective 1/4 streams and try to put more notes that matches the music next time?

Star and good luck~ :)
Sekuyi

Mianki wrote:

Sekuyi's Hard:

01:17:495 (1) This felt a bit unnecessary. Delete it?
Removed~

Download: Savage Genius - Forever (TV Size) (roflninja) [Sekuyi's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
roflninja
Updated, thanks
and thank you for modding
Firce777
Fixed :D
Thanks lepidopodus and aabc271 :D

Download: Savage Genius - Forever (TV Size) (roflninja) [Firce777's Taiko].osu
Mafiamaster

Title should have the three dots...

[Sallad]
01:22:328 (2) - Ew not symmetrical.
Topic Starter
roflninja
title fixed, will look at sallads, but might leave it for him

Edit: fixed sallads as it was minor (dont kill me sallad :( )
Sallad4ever
umm...I've got 15.21 kb when downloading the map with video and it says the map is not uploaded correctly when I try downloading without video
Please re - full submit and make sure you follow this viewtopic.php?f=56&t=24443 when changing the title?
Topic Starter
roflninja
Ok, did another full submission

edit: got a friend to download, and it worked
Numbers 596108
hello~I'm coming to mod firce777's diff~

Firce777's Taiko
Timing :
00:36:251 remove Kiai Time plz? don't you feel it strange?
00:47:496 remove the timing point...in taiko...will be strange timing point

00:47:898 none
00:48:704 none
00:51:925 none
00:57:160 none

01:09:945 no need to remove Kiai Time and add it
01:23:032 none

apply to the following

Green : to change or not change no problem
Blue : pretty point
Red : must to fix


Note :
00:35:415 proposal is to add spinner or a slider
00:35:616 ~ 00:36:231 (1~1) it's too crazy,but you can stay it. and... if you want to add slider(^),and you must remove it
00:51:925 ~ 00:52:215 (1~4) ^
01:10:046 ~ 01:14:677 (1~2) i like it,it is so good~:3
01:23:032 (X) don't you add slider or spinner in there? i feel it will be good
this is all~ good map~star it :3 good luck~
Mafiamaster
Bubbled
Firce777
StarPun
I LIKE THAT SONG VERY MUCH.
AND WAITING FOR RANK^^
James2250
Bubbled for 3 weeks...BAT's come look at this, but I will comment on it anyway
(I don't expect you to change these now, just leaving some comments,only things that could affect ranking)

The audio lead-in times are kind of odd. The lead-in's for Sallad's Insane and Hard are too short in my opinion (would be better being 2 seconds)
Also Sekuyi's Hard starts at the same time as Easy and Normal but has a 1 second lead-in time

Sekuyi's Hard:
00:50:717 (2) - very close to a hidden repeat because of 00:50:214 (3) (I knew it was there before I played but might annoy some people)

(you don't need to kudosu btw)
Good luck with getting it ranked :D
Topic Starter
roflninja
thanks james, if this gets poped at anytime (it probably will) ill be sure to make those changes
Beuchi
Hi! :)

Remember these are just suggestions you can always ignore~

~All Diffs~

aabc271 wrote:

I think the offset is a bit late. Maybe try ~756 in all diffs?
Did you check this offset? It sounds better than the one you have right now for me...

~Easy~
No problems here!

~Normal~
No problems here!

~Sekuyi's Hard~
- As James said, remove the lead-in here, it isn't necessary.

00:50:688 (2) - Yeah, I agree with James here, the repeat is kinds hidden so it can be confusing...
00:55:319 (1,1,1,1,2) - I'm a bit worried about this, specially of the visibility of the no-repeat sliders... It would be better if you separate them. It's totally up to you, though

~Hard~
- Again, as James said, I'd increase the lead-in, 2 secs is enough.

01:03:574 (5) - Finish this slider 1/4 later (white tick)

~Firce777's Taiko~
- Add Firce777 to Tags!!

~Sallad's Insane~
- Again, as James said, I'd increase the lead-in, 2 secs is enough.

So.. yeah, I'll have to pop this for now... :(
Topic Starter
roflninja

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hi! :)

Remember these are just suggestions you can always ignore~

~All Diffs~

aabc271 wrote:

I think the offset is a bit late. Maybe try ~756 in all diffs?
Did you check this offset? It sounds better than the one you have right now for me... ok, changed

~Easy~
No problems here!

~Normal~
No problems here!

~Sekuyi's Hard~
- As James said, remove the lead-in here, it isn't necessary.done

00:50:688 (2) - Yeah, I agree with James here, the repeat is kinds hidden so it can be confusing... changed this one
00:55:319 (1,1,1,1,2) - I'm a bit worried about this, specially of the visibility of the no-repeat sliders... It would be better if you separate them. It's totally up to you, though i think this is fine. when i tested this map, i had no problems hitting it

~Hard~
- Again, as James said, I'd increase the lead-in, 2 secs is enough. done

01:03:574 (5) - Finish this slider 1/4 later (white tick) done

~Firce777's Taiko~
- Add Firce777 to Tags!! woops, added

~Sallad's Insane~
- Again, as James said, I'd increase the lead-in, 2 secs is enough. done

So.. yeah, I'll have to pop this for now... :( knew that was going to happen ;_;
thanks for modding beuchi
(Sekuyi, if you want that repeat changed back, let me know and i will)
Sekuyi
It's fine ^^
Beuchi
Everything is okay now~ :)

Re-bubbled!!
Mafiamaster
I found a way better quality mp3 than the current one. Please use it! ><

Edit: Rebubbled!
Andrea
[Sekuyi's Hard]

Remove the unused Audio Lead-In.


00:56:714 (2) - A new combo should be here.

[Firce777's Taiko]

Slider velocity on a Taiko map must be at 1,4. Change it and fix the sliders.


Also, I suggest you to reduce the stack leniency on all the difficulties by 1 or 2 ticks at least. Popped for the moment.
Topic Starter
roflninja

osuplayer111 wrote:

[Sekuyi's Hard]

Remove the unused Audio Lead-In.


00:56:714 (2) - A new combo should be here.

[Firce777's Taiko]

Slider velocity on a Taiko map must be at 1,4. Change it and fix the sliders.


Also, I suggest you to reduce the stack leniency on all the difficulties by 1 or 2 ticks at least. Popped for the moment.
all done, thanks osuplayer
Andrea
Alright, since the fixes wasn't anything of big I'm gonna say that this map is now...

Ranked~
James2250
Congrats~

Only took a little while :P
Topic Starter
roflninja
Thanks both of you
Sallad4ever
Finally ranked :D
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