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Comparison between o!m's Acc, and Stepmania's DP%

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Based on:
  1. http://i.imgur.com/a5feuvR.png (Stepmania Timings Windows)
  2. http://aaronin.jp/ddrallcalc.html (DP system calculation for DDR, as far as I have seen, SM uses the MAX scale)
  3. osu!mania timing windows taken from the game client (it is the values shown in the known OD table, plus 0.5ms for each value; by using mods there are some small rounding errors)
For this, only regular notes (or steps) are considered, LN in both games work very differently, so comparing them doesn't make much sense.

The calculation assumes a Normal Distribution of hit errors (centered at 0ms of error). Assuming a Normal Distribution doesn't seem to work well when using cheesing tactics (for example, hitting keys that have no notes to simplify movements needed to play); also, it tends to underestimate the amount of misses the player gets.


The values are compared this way:
- For a given Accuracy value, OD, and amount of notes in osu!mania, calculate the Standard Deviation (Unstable Rate) where the chances of getting at least the given Acc for the amount of notes is 50%.
- For that Standard Deviation, calculate the median DP% in stepmania (Judge 4, the most common Judge as far as I have seen) expected with the same amount of notes

The results in short:

Example: For a OD7 stepfile convert with no LNs, and about 1000 notes, getting a S grade is about as hard as getting 93.53% DP% in stepmania for the same stepfile on Judge 4.


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neat
odd question I'm sure but is there any way to bump up a map's OD?
also, what does the editor default to in Osu? OD7? OD5?
Bobbias
HR bumps up a map's OD +2 (capped at OD10).

I'm not sure what the editor defaults to, but probably OD5. Whenever I make a mania map I always set the OD and HP to 8 personally.
Redon
Bobbias

Redon wrote:

Bobbias wrote:

HR bumps up a map's OD +2 (capped at OD10).
Not really, if those new ingame timing window values are accurate. mania OD and HR are... weird. HR usually goes way beyond what OD10 would be, and mania OD in general seems to be really forgiving, OD10 has a 300 window comparable to standard OD7.5.
They changed stuff? Shows how much I follow things now :/

IMO comparing standard and mania's 300's is not really fair, since mania has the max timing window. It kinda makes sense that the 300 window would be bigger because of that.
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Added a table comparing stepmania Judge 4 with osu!mania with Hard Rock mod.
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