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The Werewolf Game 5 (Ended by Host Decision)

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anonymous_old
Shoot: 0_o
Two_old
unvote, vote 0_o until he shoots someone
adam2046

thepianist wrote:

Also, vote Adam2046
Why?
KRZY
I kinda side with Ace, night actions should be processed by the order of PMs received. Think of the night phase as one flowing real-time phrase. For example, if the Seer, whoever it is, used his Seeing ability before the Ninja killed Zerostarry, then he would have seen a certain number, probably six assuming Rolled was a wolf (he is, isn't he?). If the Seer used his Seeing ability after the Ninja killed Zerostarry, he would have seen five. Whether the Seer saw before or afterh the ninja kill should be decided by whether the Seer sent his night action PM before or after the Ninja did.

Therefore, I think everything was legit, the game is still on (although very, very tipped in favor of humans at this point), and auxes might have to be weakened in the future to balance the game.



Oh, and are we not voting for wojjan because we're sure he/she is a wolf and we don't want to waste our lynching when the ninja can do the killing for us? If so, that's another NK the wolves are not gonna get. That's critical.
nardii
^
I like how the night works currently better.
Just send in your PMs earlier, wolves :|
anonymous_old

DJ KRZY wrote:

I kinda side with Ace, night actions should be processed by the order of PMs received. Think of the night phase as one flowing real-time phrase. For example, if the Seer, whoever it is, used his Seeing ability before the Ninja killed Zerostarry, then he would have seen a certain number, probably six assuming Rolled was a wolf (he is, isn't he?). If the Seer used his Seeing ability after the Ninja killed Zerostarry, he would have seen five. Whether the Seer saw before or afterh the ninja kill should be decided by whether the Seer sent his night action PM before or after the Ninja did.

Therefore, I think everything was legit, the game is still on (although very, very tipped in favor of humans at this point), and auxes might have to be weakened in the future to balance the game.
You obviously didn't read my post.
KRZY

strager wrote:

You obviously didn't read my post.
As a matter of fact I didn't. Bear with me while I do...

Edit : I've read your post.

Say one night a psychic scanned A. Then the psychic got NKed. Obviously, the psychic knows whether A is a wolf or not, but cannot say anything since he is dead.

The next night, the psychic gets revived, and scans B before the night is over. Now, the psychic knows about B as well as A. The next day, he is able to post about A and B.

Isn't this what happened this game? I think this is completely legit. Why shouldn't the psychic be allowed to scan A if he sent the PM before he was NKed? According to your method, the psychic never scans A because he is dead by the end of the night and therefore cannot perform his aux action. However, wouldn't it be more realistic to say the night actions occur precisely at the moment when an aux sends his night action PM to Ace? As I said before, think of the night phase as one flowing, real-time phase.

That was my two cents on the subject, it's up to Ace to decide which model she likes better.




If I have misunderstood your model, strager, please point out how because I'm not 100% certain if I have.
Two_old
The whole reason why there are 4 day days and 2 day nights is because of real life. To have events happen as they are pm'd is contradictory.

That said, stop talking about this ffs. Either play the game or quit.

and everyone vote for 0_o
Chris_old
unvote, Vote: 0_o
aRiskOfRain
Well, okay then

Vote: 0_o
0_o
Just so we're all clear, Two is trying to force me to shoot someone to verify my vigilante claim.
Wojjan
I know.
V0_ote
0_o
I was so looking forward to shooting you Wojjan, but that task was reallocated to the ninja ;_;
anonymous_old

0_o wrote:

I was so looking forward to shooting you Wojjan, but that task was reallocated to the ninja ;_;
No little harm in speeding up the process.

DJ KRZY, and maybe Ace of Hearts: I'll reword my statement. The way I see the system Ace of Hearts idealizes is this:

Aux actions are only considered for alive players.
Aux actions are queued during the night.
At the end of the night, all aux actions are executed sequentially and atomically, in order of enqueuement (FIFO). All aux actions are executed, except in explicit cases. (The Ninja in this game may be such a case, though it isn't clear from the rules. I can explain this if you want.)

An alternative is to have a priority queue, or some form of partitioning. So, you can say GA protections always occur before Wolf night kills. This is what occurs in all Mafia games I have played, and is more "fair" in my opinion, as Two basically said.

Oh, and in case I'm not the vig, I'll vote: 0_o.
nardii
must follow master Two

Vote: 0_o
0_o
..if he hollers let him go, eeney, meney, miney...

sorry.

BAM

The vigilante shoots LadySuburu.
Hijiri Tezuka
Damn, I'm not really sure if I should bandwagon. Oh to hell with it....
Vote: O_o
0_o
Hey OB, protip;

Vampires don't get guns.

Also it's not O_o, geez.
anonymous_old

0_o wrote:

Hey OB, protip;

Vampires don't get guns.
MS MS MS.
Chris_old
I guess 0_o was the Vigilante.

unvote, Vote thepianist
nardii
No now i have to think for myself and make a desicion :(

Unvote for now
Two_old
k unvote, vote thepianist
Hijiri Tezuka
Damnit all
Unvote
thepianist

Two wrote:

k unvote, vote thepianist

Chris wrote:

I guess 0_o was the Vigilante.

unvote, Vote thepianist
Why are you so set on the fact that there can only be one.
anonymous_old

thepianist wrote:

Two wrote:

k unvote, vote thepianist

Chris wrote:

I guess 0_o was the Vigilante.

unvote, Vote thepianist
Why are you so set on the fact that there can only be one.
Pressure.

Vote: thepianist
Two_old
if you don't prove to us that you're a vigilante then you aren't one

2 wolves left to go
aRiskOfRain
Unvote

So why is everyone voting thepianist now?
nardii
He also said he was the vigilante before 0_o did, and while there can be two, it's unlikely so we're just making him shoot someone again.
matthewtck
i think i will just go with the flow since this game is too complicated for me...VOTE:thepianist
matthewtck
Also...lets hope the ninja kill more wolfs...
Wojjan
vote: thepianist
It's clear 0_o's shot hasn't been confirmed yet. lololol bluff.
anonymous_old

matthewtck wrote:

Also...lets hope the ninja kill more wolfs...
What the fuck.

Vote: matthewtck
nardii
Vote: matthewtck
matthewtck
okay....now.....wth did i do wrong...
Hijiri Tezuka
^It's just strager >>

vote:thepianist
thepianist

nardi11011 wrote:

He also said he was the vigilante before 0_o did, and while there can be two, it's unlikely so we're just making him shoot someone again.
I'm afraid you got the facts mixed up~
matthewtck

thepianist wrote:

nardi11011 wrote:

He also said he was the vigilante before 0_o did, and while there can be two, it's unlikely so we're just making him shoot someone again.
I'm afraid you got the facts mixed up~
again????
huh????
nardii

matthewtck wrote:

again????
huh????
Well, not making HIM shoot anyone again, but pressuring someone into shooting for the second time.

thepianist wrote:

nardi11011 wrote:

He also said he was the vigilante before 0_o did, and while there can be two, it's unlikely so we're just making him shoot someone again.
I'm afraid you got the facts mixed up~
How so?
anonymous_old

matthewtck wrote:

again????
huh????
I didn't understand you for a while there...

thepianist tried to vig shoot, but retracted.
nardii

strager wrote:

matthewtck wrote:

again????
huh????
I didn't understand you for a while there...

thepianist tried to vig shoot, but retracted.
Oh so that's what happened, I thought he just tried to claim vigilante.
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