update
did you add SV change? I may have to nerf some patterns (if someone mods that)
did you add SV change? I may have to nerf some patterns (if someone mods that)
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Thx for the mod puxtu o/puxtu wrote:
I'm here to woop someone's a$$ Well RIP
[Kaito's NM]
00:13:677 - add a note because the beat is stronger here than here 00:14:277 (14277|2) - same suggestion goes to all the same patterns (e.g 00:11:877 - 00:12:777 - 00:15:627 - and etc) I have been a little bit unsure about adding there, but I guess it should be better
00:28:527 - I highly recommend to add a note here Nope, I know what you mean, but the strong piano sound totally hides that beat, which is barely hearable in itself. I'll keep it in mind tho
00:29:877 (29877|0) - remove, unnecessary OK~
00:31:077 (31077|3) - this one too OK~
00:32:277 (32277|1) - i have no idea what's this note doing here Deleted it, but you know what it was doing there v:
00:37:077 (37077|3) - 00:39:477 (39477|0) - 00:40:677 (40677|3) - 00:41:877 (41877|0) - bunch of ghost notes Let me point out they are not ghost notes, there is actually a sound there. But I know they are faint, and may be hard to hear for begginers, so deleted them
00:58:452 - forgot to add a note here? I didn't forgot, in fact, it was a double until the latest update. I started removing doubles because star rating became more than 2* after I fixed some things, so I had to delete. Anyways, applied it, since you are right (and it doesn't increases sr lol)
01:03:252 - here too, grandpa I'm not even 18 lmao. Applied
01:11:537 - same suggestion on 00:13:677 - OK~
01:19:170 (79170|0) - I think this should be a double, for the crash sound I had a double for crash sound, but I had to delete some doubles because star rating
01:29:622 - same suggestion on 00:29:877 - OK~
01:46:247 (106247|1) - I understand this, but what's this ln for? lol 01:44:622 (104622|1) - recommend to remove it and add note on the red lines Reason is that I sometimes go full retard while mapping XD. Anyways, applied notes on red lines and a note where the LN started (clear sound there)
01:56:434 (116434|0) - double note pls, cymbal OK~
02:00:040 (120040|0,120494|0) - 01:59:343 (119343|3) - 01:57:908 (117908|0) - here too.. don't worry your star rating is still 1,8.. make them into a double won't change it too much as long as you don't hammer it That was my concern because last time I did that, map ended up with 2.1*. So I had to remove some doubles. Anyways, applied
02:05:168 (125168|2,125941|0) - ^ye ^ye
inb4 all rejected I can change my opinion and reject them if you want :3
Well, sorry I have to deal with the max 2* rule ._.puxtu wrote:
oh this diff has a better flow
danx puxpuxtu wrote:
I'm here to woop someone's a$$
[nm+]
00:08:297 - add 1 more note? nm has a double note here Accenting metronome piano with one note and this stronger piano with another one, ignoring background piano on purpose
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oh this diff has a better flow and here I thought it's shit lol
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00:49:377 - where's the 1/2 ln here changed 00:46:677 (46677|0) - to normal note instead because lol that LN is a terrible idea
00:53:952 (53952|2) - to 4? same pitch as 00:53:652 (53652|2) - (second note there is for crash)
00:57:402 (57402|1,57702|3) - to 4 1? nice idea, fixed
01:19:170 - i'm pretty sure there's a cymbal here yes there is, but I thought it's too hard with it placed, but eh let's see how it'll go
01:26:396 (86396|2,86880|2) - ^ Ignoring on purpose to emphasize piano better, also you can notice that I've ignored it on 01:25:445 -
01:45:622 (105622|1) - why no lns unlike your previous pattern? actually idk, but now I'm going to make chords heavier to put more emphasis on crashes, it will create some diversity
02:00:827 - isn't this a bit too much considering how fucking intense this song gets, no it isn't.
inb4 all rejected you weren't far buddy
I'd say it was a good attempt, thanks a lot!_Hibiki_ wrote:
Here to mod
Columns 0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7 so the usual really.
I focus a lot on hitsounds, pitch relevancy, and some playability things instead of throwing in gimmicks so don't be afraid to shoot something on here down if you feel it is wrong.
8K Melodie de tristesseSPOILER00:07:855 (7855|6) - Add whistle sound for continuity in sound oh wow how did I miss that
00:14:427 (14427|2) - Maybe shorten this LN down to 00:15:327 (15327|2) since it seems to let off there? Not 100% sure Sound is lasting until where it ends now, but I agree that it kinda lets go where you pointed out. Not changing for now, but will change on next notice
(removed certain suggestions after realizing why you had certain special notes in your map... lol)
02:03:327 (123327|3,123327|7,123327|5,123327|4,123327|2,123327|6,123446|6,123446|5,123446|1,123446|2,123446|3,123446|4,123564|2,123564|1,123564|5,123564|7,123564|3,123564|4,123682|3,123682|1,123682|4,123682|7,123682|2,123682|6,123797|6,123797|2,123797|5,123797|1,123797|7,123797|3,123912|5,123912|1,123912|6,123912|4,123912|7,123912|2) - So the only bit of advice I could throw at this section (What in all that is holy is this) is perhaps not switch from 5key chords to 6key chords midway? Keep them at 5 or 6, but not switch? I didn't hear anything in the piano sound that would call for a change. Really just continuity concern. Nice catch, I didn't notice that, it wasn't intended, fixed (+0,2 sr yay)
I'm not exactly amazing at 7 or 8key so I can't offer much help but I will certainly try.
Whagwha Victus' 4k AnotherSPOILERhowdoiapply4kmods
00:08:558 (8558|0,8559|3) - Hitsounding doesn't match the double before it. wait what, it's perfectly null on hitsounds in both cases
00:26:277 (26277|3) - Remove this note, seems out of place to have a double here. Little crash mapped as two notes, same as for example 00:25:677 (25677|1,25677|3) -
00:35:427 (35427|3,35427|1,35502|2,35502|0,35577|1,35577|3,35577|0) - These kinds of patterns always throw huge issues when playing, these feel outright wrong. Consider changing to 00:35:427 (35427|1,35427|3,35502|2,35502|0,35577|3,35577|2,35577|0) since this still retains the jacks but doesn't throw in a strange trill feel. (Though still hard to play ) I have no goddamn idea what did you suggest there, please do not paste timelines as examples for patterns lmao, either screen or explain
00:55:302 (55302|3,55302|2) - Why is this a double? Make it a single. There are no reasons to have a double here. Hi-hat + piano note, same as for example 00:56:502 (56502|2,56502|0) -
02:03:682 (123682|3,123682|2,123797|1,123797|2,123912|1,123912|0) - Strange change to doubles. Maybe them triples? Or are you representing pitch with the change here? I think that whagwha wanted to represent that piano gets less agressive at the end, no change for now, but will change on next notice
Everyone seems to be modding the easier difficulties so Ill restrain myself to the harder difficulties and pray to god I was helpful in some way.
inb4 same fate as puxtu
:v-Kamikaze- wrote:
I'd say it was a good attempt, thanks a lot!
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http://anoxy.se/inc/start_download.php?id=855Nivrad00 wrote:
[Rayz' 8K Hyper]
00:43:227 - it's a bit odd that you still use two-note chords when the sound changes nothing odd here
00:59:252 - I think you better leave this note out since you don't chart the 1/6 layer anywhere else in this section suuuuuure 00:59:852 (59852|4) - 01:00:052 (60052|5) - 01:01:652 (61652|3) - 01:01:852 (61852|5) -
01:09:625 (69625|4) - could move to the right one lane to make this more playable k
01:45:309 - maybe add a note why
01:47:872 - this chord comes one 1/4 snap too early oh, k
01:58:633 - should add a note on lane 1 for the crash k
for everyone:
00:58:652 - only Kaito's diffs use 1/3 here for the melody, so either Kaito should use 1/2 or every other diff should use 1/3 lol 1/3 sound late, 1/2 for me
00:48:177 - D's 8K Another uses 1/8 here but Whagwha Victus' 4K Another uses 1/3, so one of those needs to be changed sounds like 1/3 for me
Thanks a lot Niv! Updated.Nivrad00 wrote:
hi again kami damn nigga, u gold
S|1|2|3|4|5|6|7
[8K Normal+]
00:03:566 - lol you inverted the pitch in the beginning ok ayy fixed
01:14:810 - make this a jack or something This has a bit diffrent vibe from those notes that I jacked, so I don't want to jack this one too (le variety mang)
01:19:034 - maybe add a note Sure
02:00:379 - awkward for left scratch x: meddled with patterns, much better now
[Rayz' 8K Hyper]
Updated
[8K Melodie de tristesse]
00:11:078 - come on kami spread those notes out a little lmao P O L Y R H Y T H M B O I Z Seriously tho, I'm keeping this because I'm being consistent on pitches within layers (00:11:078 (11078|4,11189|5,11300|6,11411|4,11516|5,11621|6) - thingy)
01:08:458 (68458|3) - looks like you forgot to resnap this one P: Nice catch!
01:08:361 - it's a bit strange that you started the 1/6 stream here when the piano starts at 01:07:123 - and the intense percussion starts at 01:08:583 - Yeah, but it feels too ahrd with full pano layer and chords, started piano earlier for now, might revamp this after more mods
01:25:562 - there's no crash here If you listen closely you'll hear it, it's not clear, but it's a doubled crash there
01:25:445 - I feel sorry for the french players b: =^)
01:46:934 - maybe add note Sure!
02:01:156 - jesus christ RIP french players = ^ )
for everyone:
00:58:652 - only Kaito's diffs use 1/3 here for the melody, so either Kaito should use 1/2 or every other diff should use 1/3 lol
00:48:177 - D's 8K Another uses 1/8 here but Whagwha Victus' 4K Another uses 1/3, so one of those needs to be changed
OK good luck getting that ranked without having to nerf the end of melodie de tristesse
tbh I don't even have to nerf it. Official BMS chart uses 7-chords there for piano smash, so 6-chords aren't that much diffrent and they're making musical sense lol
That was an unsnapped note, fixed.Kaito-kun wrote:
PS: Also noticed something, the 8K Melodie of tristesse and Rayz' 8K Hyper has different snaps at the very end of the map (around here 02:02:582 - to be exact), so take a look at it, I went with Kamikaze's snap, but you should check it out, because this may pose a problem later on
Rivals_7 wrote:
Hi~ from my mania queue I will mod your 4K here. No kudos if this isn't helpful to you
1|2|3|4
[General]
Check Aimod, you have a lot of job to do Fixed preview points, timing on Yuno's diff will get fixed in future
[4K Normal+]
00:43:977 (43977|1,44277|2,44577|3) - ctrl+g? the pitch seems lowering... and literally is the same noise like - 01:42:372 (102372|3,102622|2,102872|1) - Fair point, done
02:02:484 (122484|3,122484|2,122581|1,122581|0,122708|0,122834|1,122959|1,123083|2,123205|2,123326|3,123446|3) - ctrl+h. cuz the pitch is lowering and you mostly mapped a low pitch in col 1 imo Done
02:03:564 (123564|0,123682|1,123797|2,123912|3) - Ctrl+h too if you accept above y
and move - 02:02:388 (122388|1) - to 3 I don't want to jack it here already so I moved it to 3
[Whagwa Victus's 4K Another]
(This guy has been quit isn't he?) Yeah, he did quit and I took over his diff with his permission
01:07:710 (67710|1,67710|3,67757|2,67804|1) - ctrl+h for hand balance when bursting Done and rearranged next pattern to avoid an anchor
Can't mod Tidek's diff. too hard for me
Kaito's diff seems fine :3
Good Luck guys I'm waiting my PP LOL :v
Thanks guys!Adtw_ wrote:
From|1|2|3|4| 4K Normal+01:02:352 (62352|0) - move to 3 Leaving for pitch
01:03:661 (63661|2) - ghost note? Piano and snare are there
01:09:901 (69901|3,70037|1) - ctrl+g OkayWhagwha Victus' 4K Another00:35:352 - Missing note? Added
00:38:577 (38577|3) - move to 3 Okay
01:11:401 (71401|1,71469|0) - ctrl+g Nah I like that pattern more
01:34:622 - delete 1 note Okay
01:47:934 - add note Tha will create a really awful minijack which I would like to avoid[MOD END]
it's just my suggestion, feel free to reject
Goodluck
Thanks for the mod!FrenzyLi wrote:
Here is the response from FrenzyLi's osu!mania Instrumental Queue! 4K Normal+Comment: I can't really suggest anything else here because I believe this map is pretty smooth. However, I do believe that some notes should be doubled instead.
My2cents: Didn't spot anything unusual from my current level though. I still believe slider + end note is easier for beginners to hit accurately instead of the slider alone.
- 00:46:377 (46377|1,46677|0,46827|2,47127|3,47127|2,47427|3,47577|0,47577|1) - Comment: This sequence really tests left/right hand balance. that's cool I guess lol
- 01:08:583 (68583|3,68740|0,68898|3,69048|0) - How about doubling up the notes... 23,01,23,01? It kinda goes against my idea of making doubles for really strong pianos or crashes and I feel like it would be kinda weird to double those
- 02:05:438 (125438|1,125727|2) - Maybe doubling up here as well... 01,23? First yes, second no. Same reason as before with crashes
Thx for the mod N|HIL, but next time, please be more specific as to why make these changes, I can't see the big picture just by pointing out and saying "re-arrange" and such, so the reason as to why can actually persuade a mapperNlHIL wrote:
Kaito's 8K NM00:33:927 (33927|4,34827|2) - rearrange pls Please be more specific next time, I don't know what you mean with this, if you mean it for hand balancing, I did a small something to sort of fix it, but that's the only thing I can think of that you meant (if I'm wrong, please enlighten me, as I'm having a hard time deciphering wtf you meant with this -_-'')
00:52:152 - add for piano? I don't hear any piano there. If you meant by the sort of drum sound there, it's a no. I'm not mapping that sound at that moment, so I'll abstain from mapping it
00:59:352 - ^ ^^
00:59:502 - ^ ^^
01:44:622 (104622|6,105247|7) - remove Removed it and added some notes to the sounds I was mapping, looks better now
01:44:747 - add I don't see the purpose of making it a double, so rejected
01:44:997 - ^ ^^
Thanks for the mod Adtw_, only rejected one suggestion, so I guess it's good lolAdtw_ wrote:
From|1|2|3|4| Kaito's 4K Normal00:28:377 (28377|3) - move to 3 Feels better both pitch-wise and playing wise, applied
00:28:527 - missing note? I barely even here something on 25% playback, so I'll abstain from mapping it (I ignored that sound on purpose)
00:38:127 - ^ ^^
01:38:372 (98372|1,98497|2) - move 1 column right Sure, applied
01:39:247 (99247|2,99372|3) - ctrl+g Looks good, applied
01:39:497 (99497|1,99622|0) - ^ if yes, ctrl+g ^^[MOD END]
it's just my suggestion, feel free to reject
Goodluck
Thanks for the mod FrenzyLi, barely any accepts, but made me realize a thing or two that I passed unnoticed (not that big, but just a little something)FrenzyLi wrote:
Here is the response from FrenzyLi's osu!mania Instrumental Queue! Kaito's 4K NormalComment: I tried to do some hand balancing based on pitch information to correct some things that I think are incorrect.
My2cents: My 2 cents: I think it's okay to use sliders to mark the beginning of a chain of complex stairs that beginners' aren't capable of playing, but it's hard for beginners to release timely at the end of the sliders. They need a note at the end of the slider to know when the sliders end. When does the slider end? A slider itself isn't enough a clue for beginners. If a beginner is only 2 days into the game, both sliders and slider + end note is hard. But after a week of playing, slider + end note is more likely to result in higher accuracy. Maybe a lot of parts with sliders should be swapped with [4K Normal+]. I understand what you mean, but if there is no reason to add a note at the end of a slider, then I won't add it, I'll try to simplify things tho. And regarding your comparation with 4K Normal+, I would like you to avoid comparing one diff with another, as we have different purposes, targeted player levels, mapping styles, etc. So no matter how good both maps are, there are some things that are bound to pop up when comparing them.
- 00:03:566 (3566|3,4316|2,5022|1,5689|0,6321|1,6921|2,7492|3,8037|2,8297|1,8297|0,8559|0,8559|1) - Move note(s) at each time point to 1/2/1/0/2/3/2/1/23/23. Reason: Take the first note of each triplet just like in [4K Normal+]. Rejected the suggestion, but did some changes to that section instead
- 00:13:527 (13527|3,13677|1) - Maybe: Ctrl+J. Matches with 00:17:277 (17277|1,17427|3,17577|2,17577|0) Applied
- 00:20:052 (20052|0,20202|1) - Do you prefer this or just a slider at column 0 that lasts 1/2? Sounds similar to sliders like 00:19:602 (19602|3), just shorter. I prefer it as it is. Making smaller LNs isn't really a good option imo, and making the LNs into notes feels weird, so I'll leave the section as it is for now
00:20:352 (20352|3,20502|2) - Same question for this as well. ^^
00:21:177 (21177|0,21327|2) - Same here. ^^
00:22:002 (22002|2,22152|0) - Same here as well as potentially a lot of other sliders. ^^- 00:25:977 (25977|2,26127|3,26427|1,26727|1) - Even though it's weird to have same pitch notes in separate columns (2,3) and different notes on same columns (1,1), and even though following the drum (whatever instrument down there) seems fine, how about 2,3,2,2 here? puxtu has already pointed that out, and again, I don't see any problem regarding pitch, both patterns seems perfectly fine while both playing it and looking at it in the editor (2,3 pattern is separate because it's a different pitch, and same column because same sound). Rejected, as the suggested changes aren't very comfortable either
00:27:177 (27177|2,27327|3,27477|0,27627|1) - Just a comment... I spent some time, and now I know why you put these here. Because I was mapping that sound....... (?)- 00:30:627 (30627|0,30777|1,30927|2,31077|3,31227|0) - Comment: Remind you that there is a fore-jack here. Yeah... doesn't make much a difference. I know, but adding it will turn this map into a full-jacks map, and I would like to avoid that (jacks are ok, but I would like to keep it to a minimum)
- 02:05:941 (125941|0,125941|1) - Make both into sliders that end at 02:06:541 just like in [4K Normal+]. I prefer it as it is, so rejected.