Yuyoyuppe - Bad Apple!! · forum

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-03-30T22:13:57+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on vendredi 1 mai 2015 at 18:39:40

Artist: Yuyoyuppe
Title: Bad Apple!!
Source: 東方Project
Tags: touhou baby ludacris justin bieber april fools troll nozhomi
BPM: 136,02
Filesize: 8092kb
Play Time: 03:08
Difficulties Available:

Insane (3,78 stars, 538 notes)
Normal (1,96 stars, 276 notes)
Noz's Hard (2,93 stars, 463 notes)

Download: Yuyoyuppe - Bad Apple!!
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Please play it with the storybard, made with all my love.

Thanks to Nozhomi for his Hard diff!

Please enjoy this game.

Thanks to the modders

Kin, Yales, Pjecoo, Aldwych, Hi Im Nathan, (Genocide), Mako Sakata, Ovoui, annika69, Near, Nekomata, makemek, Pereira006, ByBy_ChAn,

Pereira006,

Neil Watts,

Secretpipe, Warfu,

Neil Watts,

Secretpipe,

Pereira006,

Asphyxia,

Secretpipe,

Pereira006,

Fycho,

Alarido,

Irreversible,

Alarido,

ByBy_ChAn

Last edited by Neil Watts 2019-04-19T14:10:43+00:00, edited 50 times in total.

Cherry Blossom

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Joined October 2011

Cherry Blossom 2015-03-30T22:15:08+00:00

A wild CB appeared.

Nozhomi

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Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2015-03-30T22:48:55+00:00

Cherry Blossom wrote:
A wild CB appeared.

Hentai CB

Lanturn

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Lanturn 2015-03-30T22:52:48+00:00

<3

So perfect.

Bunnrei

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Joined May 2011

Bunnrei 2015-03-30T23:02:45+00:00

The tags were a spoiler

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-03-30T23:13:28+00:00

osu_gangster wrote:
The tags were a spoiler

I can't remove them though

Lanturn wrote:
<3

So perfect.

thanks Lanturn ;w;

Mint

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Joined February 2013

Mint 2015-03-31T14:43:40+00:00

this is delicious

Yales

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Joined February 2013

Yales 2015-04-02T22:49:42+00:00

[Normal]

01:20:463 (3,4) - C'est vraiment quelque chose que tu dois pas faire en normal (le blue tick)... remplace par un slider et fait en sorte que la reverse soit sur le blue tick
02:13:960 (3) - Le slider sur le red tick passe pas très bien, c'est pas tres catchy.

Je trouve la map vachement chargée, mais pas mauvaise sinon, les hitsounds sont bons.

[Hard]

00:08:903 (2) - Je comprends pas trop le spacing a savoir que tu l'as increase juste a cet endroit la.
00:26:122 (1) - Tres honnêtement, j'ai pas l'impression que la différence de BPM soit si intense que ca nécessite un combo seul pour "prévenir"
02:26:414 (4) - Enleve 1 reverse et add une note ?
02:58:706 (4) - Ca fait un peu random comme "stream" Un triple sur le tick rouge parait plus approprie..

02:41:513 (1) - Les HS sont un peu forts >< Sinon, je pense que c'est a peu près ok dans l'ensemble

[Apple]

00:26:583 (1) - Met le même DS que 00:24:775 (1,2,3,4) - C'est pas assez constant la.
00:30:044 (3,1) - Je suis pas spécialement fan du custom stack ici qui peut poser problème a la lisibilité.
00:37:659 (1) - Les hitsounds sont un peu fort :c
00:43:659 (9) - C'est pas genre totalement offscreen?
00:47:351 (7) - ^
01:00:734 (4) - ^
01:34:885 (5,6,7,8,1) - T'as rate ton etoile
01:46:423 (6) - ^
01:53:807 (11) - Pour tous ces combos (11) sur cette partie, tu pourrais rajouter un nouveau combo, car le rythme du slider est vachement différents de tous les autres
02:24:871 (7,8) - C'est fou que tu 1/4 ici car perso, j'aurais laisse la timeline vide jusqu’à 02:25:201 - (en stackant avec la précédente note)
02:26:083 (3) - Vu le spacing tu pourrais mettre la note plus dans la dirrection du slider !
02:27:075 - Tu pourrais ajouter une note (ca se jouerait mieux je pense) car le burst de 6 notes est pas tres naturel
02:33:577 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - J'aime bien
02:41:072 (1) - Tu pourrais aussi reduire d'un tick (1/4) et ajouter une note pour marquer le kiai

Voila.De bons rythmes, bon hs, j'aime juste pas trop ce genre de stream 02:58:706 (4,5,6,7,8) - est-ce que ca vient du stream en lui même ou des hitsounds, quoiqu'il en soit, ça sonne overmap et c'est dur de hit le tout de façon accurate.

Bon courage !

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-02T23:29:20+00:00

Yales wrote:
[Normal]
01:20:463 (3,4) - C'est vraiment quelque chose que tu dois pas faire en normal (le blue tick)... remplace par un slider et fait en sorte que la reverse soit sur le blue tick Ok, fixed
02:13:960 (3) - Le slider sur le red tick passe pas très bien, c'est pas tres catchy. Remplacé par un reverse slider avec le 2
Je trouve la map vachement chargée, mais pas mauvaise sinon, les hitsounds sont bons.

[Apple]
00:26:583 (1) - Met le même DS que 00:24:775 (1,2,3,4) - C'est pas assez constant la. fixed
00:30:044 (3,1) - Je suis pas spécialement fan du custom stack ici qui peut poser problème a la lisibilité. Ça ne me pose pas de problème, je verrai en fonction des avis des moddeurs suivants
00:37:659 (1) - Les hitsounds sont un peu fort :c C'est volontaire. Je vais les diminuer un peu pour le premier et troisième kiai.
00:43:659 (9) - C'est pas genre totalement offscreen? ça rentre dans la fenêtre de jeu donc nopenope
00:47:351 (7) - ^ ^
01:00:734 (4) - ^ ^
01:34:885 (5,6,7,8,1) - T'as rate ton etoile teach me how to make stars
01:46:423 (6) - ^ nopenope
01:53:807 (11) - Pour tous ces combos (11) sur cette partie, tu pourrais rajouter un nouveau combo, car le rythme du slider est vachement différents de tous les autres A voir selon l'avis des prochains mods
02:24:871 (7,8) - C'est fou que tu 1/4 ici car perso, j'aurais laisse la timeline vide jusqu’à 02:25:201 - (en stackant avec la précédente note) Je ne vois pas vraiment le problème, je mappe les voix puis les drums lorsqu'il n'y a plus de voix
02:26:083 (3) - Vu le spacing tu pourrais mettre la note plus dans la dirrection du slider ! ok la note s'est barrée je sais pas comment, fixed
02:27:075 - Tu pourrais ajouter une note (ca se jouerait mieux je pense) car le burst de 6 notes est pas tres naturel Pas faux, c'est plus facile à jouer comme ça
02:33:577 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - J'aime bien
02:41:072 (1) - Tu pourrais aussi reduire d'un tick (1/4) et ajouter une note pour marquer le kiai ça va bien comme ça imo, ça suit bien les drums, je verrai en fonction des avis suivants
Voila.De bons rythmes, bon hs, j'aime juste pas trop ce genre de stream 02:58:706 (4,5,6,7,8) - est-ce que ca vient du stream en lui même ou des hitsounds, quoiqu'il en soit, ça sonne overmap et c'est dur de hit le tout de façon accurate.
C'est vrai qu'un stream tout seul au milieu de nulle part ça fait bizarre et c'est pas très précis, je verrai en fonction des mods suivants

Bon courage !

Merci beaucoup

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2015-04-03T12:46:49+00:00

Yales wrote:
[Hard]
00:08:903 (2) - Je comprends pas trop le spacing a savoir que tu l'as increase juste a cet endroit la. - Je trouvais que ça passais bien, mais bon fix.
00:26:122 (1) - Tres honnêtement, j'ai pas l'impression que la différence de BPM soit si intense que ca nécessite un combo seul pour "prévenir" - Fix
02:26:414 (4) - Enleve 1 reverse et add une note ? - Je ne veux pas faire un truc trop compliqué.
02:58:706 (4) - Ca fait un peu random comme "stream" Un triple sur le tick rouge parait plus approprie.. - Je trouve que ça sonne bien comme ça, et ça ferait un pattern bien dur pour une Hard.
02:41:513 (1) - Les HS sont un peu forts >< Sinon, je pense que c'est a peu près ok dans l'ensemble - 70% au lieu de 75% ^^'

Voila.De bons rythmes, bon hs, j'aime juste pas trop ce genre de stream 02:58:706 (4,5,6,7,8) - est-ce que ca vient du stream en lui même ou des hitsounds, quoiqu'il en soit, ça sonne overmap et c'est dur de hit le tout de façon accurate.

Bon courage !

Thk o/

nya box

osu file format v14

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Source:Touhou
Tags:baby ludacris justin bieber april fools troll
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Mortem

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Mortem 2015-04-03T20:02:42+00:00

hi.

Normal:
00:08:463 (1) - Ctrl + J & rearrange for better flow.
00:24:775 (3,4) - What about the same angle as (3)?
01:55:192 (1) - Maybe put it like you did here 01:58:884 (1) - ?
02:13:739 (2) - Remove reverse arrow and add note at 02:14:180 somewhere. (or just move 02:14:621 (3) - below 02:13:739 (2) - ).
02:18:589 (3,4) - How about this? (Remove one reverse arrow and rearrange them like that).
02:38:427 (9) - Rotate it.

Hard:
00:41:351 (1,2) - I don't think that is good idea to have it below slider. Just suggesting move it little bit further from the slider. (and so on 00:45:043 (1,2) - ,...)
01:55:883 (3,4) - This is kinda backstabbing. Move it somewhere else (for example above (2)).
03:01:792 (7,8) - Blanket?
03:01:792 (7,4) - Stack?

Pomme:
00:47:351 (7) - Improve the design little bit. This heart looks kinda bad. :/
00:51:273 (7,1) - Make blanket here.
02:15:062 (6,5) - Stack?

my ears are bleeding from JB.
hope that helps.
good luck.

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-04T09:44:36+00:00

Pjecoo wrote:
hi.

Normal:
00:08:463 (1) - Ctrl + J & rearrange for better flow. no, it's fine for me
00:24:775 (3,4) - What about the same angle as (3)? no, I wanna make a progressive inclination like 00:24:775 (1,2,3,4) - in Neil's Apple
01:55:192 (1) - Maybe put it like you did here 01:58:884 (1) - ? I don't have the place below the slider D: And I wanna try to vary my patterns a bit.
02:13:739 (2) - Remove reverse arrow and add note at 02:14:180 somewhere. (or just move 02:14:621 (3) - below 02:13:739 (2) - ). fixed.
02:18:589 (3,4) - How about this? (Remove one reverse arrow and rearrange them like that). I wanna try to keep the reverses. I know this pattern needs improving tho
02:38:427 (9) - Rotate it. yes why not

Pomme:
00:47:351 (7) - Improve the design little bit. This heart looks kinda bad. :/ I tried to improve it -- but teach me how to make hearts please ;_;
00:51:273 (7,1) - Make blanket here. okay, okay
02:15:062 (6,5) - Stack? I thought they were stacked D:

my ears are bleeding from JB. I listened to the song so much to map it, now I even know the lyrics of the bieber part, so don't complain ;__;
hope that helps.
good luck.

Thank you

Korey

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Korey 2015-04-04T09:47:39+00:00

are you actually trying to get this ranked?

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-04T09:54:27+00:00

ikorza wrote:
are you actually trying to get this ranked?

Yes, why not \o/

Korey

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Korey 2015-04-04T10:18:30+00:00

Neil Watts wrote:
ikorza wrote:
are you actually trying to get this ranked?
Yes, why not \o/

take a star then!

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-04T10:52:54+00:00

Thank you ;w;

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2015-04-04T16:07:34+00:00

Pjecoo wrote:
hi.

Hard:
00:41:351 (1,2) - I don't think that is good idea to have it below slider. Just suggesting move it little bit further from the slider. (and so on 00:45:043 (1,2) - ,...) - No I think it's ok for a Hard to have stack like this on the end.
01:55:883 (3,4) - This is kinda backstabbing. Move it somewhere else (for example above (2)). - Ok ;w; did something different.
03:01:792 (7,8) - Blanket? - Not planned to stack.
03:01:792 (7,4) - Stack? - Ok

my ears are bleeding from JB. - Ye it hurts.
hope that helps.
good luck.

Thk BABY BABY BABYYYY OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Aldwych

2,831 posts

Joined February 2012

Aldwych 2015-04-04T21:10:24+00:00

Lu t qui?
MaaM Request by IRC.

[General]

Ahhàfzehfioefozfnzeo 3bait5me 360JustinNoScoped.
Bad April yea!!

Normalement les 50 nuances de rose devraient être gardé pour justin bieber, plz.
Damn ce combo vert citron paic, me tue les yeux

02:05:806 : Oh i was sauce! https://youtu.be/K4NO0e0_WbM?t=14s

[Normal]

N'oublie pas que tu doit pas dépasser les 2SR pour rank, c'est assez short a première vue, on va voir si on peux alléger le tout.

00:09:345 : Ce genre de pattern est un peu confus en normal, imo quand je l'ai vu j'ai cru a un double reverse et en fait non, actually ce genre de slider est plus à même en bas qu'en haut ou alors modifie le petit reverse slider.

00:13:974 : Le petit décalage entre ces deux sliders est pas très beau, imo tu devrait un peu baisser le dernier slider.

00:15:958 : Perso j'aime pas trop ce pattern et le flow que tu donne à la suite avec tes cercles. Je vais te donner une idée que tu pourrais faire à la place :

exemple

Ici j'améliore le flow avec la suite des cercles sans forcément casser celui des slider, si tu veux tu peux aussi améliorer le flow entre les deux sliders, c'est encore améliorable.

00:18:162 : Le flow peut ici etre amélioré en mettant le cercle aux environs de 56;140.

00:21:248 : Chez moi le faut du slider frôle pile pile pile le HP bar, fait gaffe si d'autres personnes ne notifient et si c'est le cas c'est unrankable issue.

00:22:130 : Imo cet ensemble est pas très élégant, je sais que tu as fait un copy paste du précédent slider, mais les voir courbé, c'est mieux. :>

00:26:583 : Entre tes deux sliders, le flow est pas sexy, je te conseille de faire quelque chose comme ceci :

exemple

Ici simple rotation, j'ai aussi fait en sorte que ca fasse un blanket avec le précédent slider, bon par contre le tout est un peu trop haut.

00:31:198 : Je pense que tu peux delete ce circle, ca crée un blanket, tu suit les beats (bitemdrmdrmdr), et évite un trop gros combo 1/2 en normal.

00:32:121 : Damn, so sexy slider, tu peux faire plus élégant xD.

00:37:659++: Ton kiai section manque de clap hitsound, et ca se voit qu'on peux en mettre.

00:47:351 : En sois j'aime pas les whistles en normal parce que ca me donne mal à la tete, mais la il te manque des whitsles.

00:48:735 : Damn flow, imo tu devrait le mettre "vertical" ce slider (pas un 90° noscope hein).

00:52:427 : Précédement on m'a mis en garde sur le fait qu'il faut un bon break en normal suite à un spinner genre 2/1, donc essaie d'en avoir un aussi. Réduit ptet le spinner.

00:53:350 : Wow Overlapp :<

00:54:735 : La partie courbée est pas top, tu peux déplacer le centre vers 224;44.

01:07:195 : Meme chose pour le spinner.

01:15:733 : Ca manque d'un cercle ici, 'fin ce 3/2 break est pas sex.

01:17:348 : Tu peux enlever ce circle par contre.

01:23:117 : Missing circle.

01:24:732 : Et la en trop

02:05:806 : T'as des timing section en trop ici, ca need un peu de clean.

02:18:589 : Ce combo est un peu trop lon imo, tu pourrais réduire les deux sliders d'un reverse (et par la meme occasion rework le combo car le tout est un peu confus).

02:33:357 : Combo un peu long aussi, je te conseille de supprimer ce circle.

02:37:104 : NC.

Le mapping est pas trop mal dans l'ensemble attention au rythme utilisé dans la partie bieber, c'est vrai que normalement on utilise les white ticks, mais la le rythme est surtout sur les red.

[Noz's Hard]

Maybe OD & HP -0.5 dans le but de faire 5-6-7?

00:01:410++ : Sur ce genre de pattern je te conseille en hitsound de faire : ww wn ww
w = whitsle
n = normal

Ca rapellera bien bad apple.

00:23:011 : J'aurais rien dit si ton slider aurait été du 1/1, mais la c'esr trop petit et la fin est caché, rework ce slider. :<

00:29:583 : Ok pour le blanket, moin ok pour les différent DS, ca fait pas super élégent visuellement.

00:30:275 : Sur ce genre de slider on à le beat mais pas le clap, et c'est pas top, ici tu peux faire un 3/4 puis 1/2 slider et c'est ce que je te conseille.

00:32:121 : ^
00:33:967 : ^

Idem pour la suite si y'en a.

00:37:659 : Meme chose que pour Neil, ca manque de clap dans ton kiai section.
00:38:121 : T'as l'idée pour le rythme, maintenant, je préfère clairement deux slider que 1 slider + cercle, plus facilee à jouer imo, en + ça t'évite des 3/4 spacing que tu fais par la suite qui sont pas top à entendre (maintenant en taiko je m'en fout ca donne de la forme à la map :3 )

00:53:812 : Mais qu'est ce que vous avez avec ce genre de slider wtf! Oo.

00:54:735 : Tu peux faire plus sex que ca en slider. xD

01:11:118 : Ici t'as rien a map, ce circle doit etre 1/2 plus tot.

01:13:079 : Encore un 3/4 spacing pas top, c'est mieux que tu fill le tout par un 3/4 reverse slider ou 3/4 puis 1/2 slider.

01:16:425 : Je doute que ces deux sliders soient parrallèles, le mieux c'est qu'ils le soient.

01:23:809 : Voila c'est plus ce genre de rythme que je veux voir.
01:24:271 : Bon par contre finis ce slider a 01:24:502, parce que la ca mène à rien xD

01:36:270 : No need to NC here, ou alors c'est pas ici.

02:07:126+ : Curieusement, entre toi et Neil's Apple le rythme est le même, imo tu devrait un peu réduire le mapping dans cette zone la.

02:25:422 : J'aime pas trop les moyens que tu met en place pour donner le rythme, imo ca devrait etre des slider séparés par des 1/4 comme ceci :

exemple

nb : 3 starts at 02:26:083.

Anyway, y'a de l'idée dans le rythme, mais je suis pas fan de comment tu utilise tes objets.

[Neil's Apple]

Et pourquoi pas simplement Insane ou Apple?

00:01:140++ : Meme chose que pour noz concernant le hitsound.
Sur ce genre de pattern je te conseille en hitsound de faire : ww wn ww
w = whitsle
n = normal

Tu peux aussi le try sur ta normal.

Sur le début, le rythme et les patterns sont correct, manque juste les hitsounds.

00:27:275 : Chuis pas fan du curve m'enfin ca peux passer. (Enfin pour moi il l'est pas assez).

00:47:351 : ENFIN UN COEUR MERCI!

01:05:349 : Ces deux sliders pourrait etre plus courbés et se blanket themselves. (Oui eux-memes mais c'est moins swag).

01:10:195 : je te conseille de faire un blanket avec le prochain cercle, ca fera en plus un meilleur flow avec la suite sans modifier avec le précédent pattern.

01:29:809 : Il me semble que vu que tu modifie le SV, tu dois NC a chaque modification de SV.

01:46:423 : DAMN ILEOU LE KEUR?!! Fais le au niveau de sa main, ca fera comme si il faisait entièrement partie de la map <333.

01:51:500++ : Ici tes hitsounds sont un peu confus lors de tes streams, un moment tu fait des additions Drum (ce que je trouve très légit), et après du normal, c'est assez "weird", imo tu devrait tout mettre en additional drum.

Voila c'est tout ce que j'avais à dire!

Gl hf pour le troll rank!

Neil Watts

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Topic Starter

Neil Watts 2015-04-05T10:53:07+00:00

Aldwych wrote:
Lu t qui?
MaaM Request by IRC.

[General]

Ahhàfzehfioefozfnzeo 3bait5me 360JustinNoScoped.
Bad April yea!!

Normalement les 50 nuances de rose devraient être gardé pour justin bieber, plz.
Damn ce combo vert citron paic, me tue les yeux
J'avais complètement oublié les combo colors.
J'ai pris une heure pour tous les refaire.

02:05:806 : Oh i was sauce! https://youtu.be/K4NO0e0_WbM?t=14s omg :')

[Normal]

N'oublie pas que tu doit pas dépasser les 2SR pour rank, c'est assez short a première vue, on va voir si on peux alléger le tout. Je sais, c'est limite mais ça passe

00:09:345 : Ce genre de pattern est un peu confus en normal, imo quand je l'ai vu j'ai cru a un double reverse et en fait non, actually ce genre de slider est plus à même en bas qu'en haut ou alors modifie le petit reverse slider. arrangé

00:13:974 : Le petit décalage entre ces deux sliders est pas très beau, imo tu devrait un peu baisser le dernier slider. mh ok, mais je ne vois pas la différence

00:15:958 : Perso j'aime pas trop ce pattern et le flow que tu donne à la suite avec tes cercles. Je vais te donner une idée que tu pourrais faire à la place :
exemple
Ici j'améliore le flow avec la suite des cercles sans forcément casser celui des slider, si tu veux tu peux aussi améliorer le flow entre les deux sliders, c'est encore améliorable. no, j'aime bien mon flow ici, le fait que les sliders n'aient pas de slider points contrastent bien avec la partie précédente

00:18:162 : Le flow peut ici etre amélioré en mettant le cercle aux environs de 56;140. A l'intérieur ou à l'extérieur, je trouve que le cercle a sa place, mais ok pourquoi pas

00:21:248 : Chez moi le faut du slider frôle pile pile pile le HP bar, fait gaffe si d'autres personnes ne notifient et si c'est le cas c'est unrankable issue. Slider baissé

00:22:130 : Imo cet ensemble est pas très élégant, je sais que tu as fait un copy paste du précédent slider, mais les voir courbé, c'est mieux. :>
Moui j'étais parti pour faire des Etna sliders mais je les préfère courbés

00:26:583 : Entre tes deux sliders, le flow est pas sexy, je te conseille de faire quelque chose comme ceci :
exemple
Ici simple rotation, j'ai aussi fait en sorte que ca fasse un blanket avec le précédent slider, bon par contre le tout est un peu trop haut.
Amélioré d'une manière différente

00:31:198 : Je pense que tu peux delete ce circle, ca crée un blanket, tu suit les beats (bitemdrmdrmdr), et évite un trop gros combo 1/2 en normal. I agree!
00:32:121 : Damn, so sexy slider, tu peux faire plus élégant xD. Il est cool mon slider ;_; (au moins aussi cool que le background)

00:37:659++: Ton kiai section manque de clap hitsound, et ca se voit qu'on peux en mettre.
J'avais effectivement négligé les hitsounds de la Normal, puisque Kin m'avait aidé pour les hitsounds de la Neil's Apple. Fixed
00:47:351 : En sois j'aime pas les whistles en normal parce que ca me donne mal à la tete, mais la il te manque des whitsles.
What? Il en manque pas D:
00:48:735 : Damn flow, imo tu devrait le mettre "vertical" ce slider (pas un 90° noscope hein).
Il me plaît comme il est
00:52:427 : Précédement on m'a mis en garde sur le fait qu'il faut un bon break en normal suite à un spinner genre 2/1, donc essaie d'en avoir un aussi. Réduit ptet le spinner. ok spinner réduit

00:53:350 : Wow Overlapp :< fixed

00:54:735 : La partie courbée est pas top, tu peux déplacer le centre vers 224;44. j'aime bien comme c'est

01:07:195 : Meme chose pour le spinner.ok

01:15:733 : Ca manque d'un cercle ici, 'fin ce 3/2 break est pas sex. Il ne me dérange pas, il suit les drums

01:17:348 : Tu peux enlever ce circle par contre.ok

01:23:117 : Missing circle. ok

01:24:732 : Et la en trop ok

02:05:806 : T'as des timing section en trop ici, ca need un peu de clean. timing sections nettoyées

02:18:589 : Ce combo est un peu trop lon imo, tu pourrais réduire les deux sliders d'un reverse (et par la meme occasion rework le combo car le tout est un peu confus). Ce n'est pas la première fois qu'on me le signale, donc ok

02:33:357 : Combo un peu long aussi, je te conseille de supprimer ce circle. mouais ok

02:37:104 : NC. ok

Le mapping est pas trop mal dans l'ensemble attention au rythme utilisé dans la partie bieber, c'est vrai que normalement on utilise les white ticks, mais la le rythme est surtout sur les red.

[Neil's Apple]

Et pourquoi pas simplement Insane ou Apple? A la base j'étais parti dans l'idée d'avoir une "Noz's Apple" et une "Neil's Apple", mais Noz a dit que c'était plus safe de prendre "Noz's Hard". Donc ouais ok, Insane.

00:01:140++ : Meme chose que pour noz concernant le hitsound.
Sur ce genre de pattern je te conseille en hitsound de faire : ww wn ww
w = whitsle
n = normal
I love my firetrucking whistles.

Tu peux aussi le try sur ta normal.

Sur le début, le rythme et les patterns sont correct, manque juste les hitsounds.

00:27:275 : Chuis pas fan du curve m'enfin ca peux passer. (Enfin pour moi il l'est pas assez). curvé un tout petit peu plus.

00:47:351 : ENFIN UN COEUR MERCI! <3

01:05:349 : Ces deux sliders pourrait etre plus courbés et se blanket themselves. (Oui eux-memes mais c'est moins swag). J'ai préféré la symétrie à la blanquette

01:10:195 : je te conseille de faire un blanket avec le prochain cercle, ca fera en plus un meilleur flow avec la suite sans modifier avec le précédent pattern. mwi ok

01:29:809 : Il me semble que vu que tu modifie le SV, tu dois NC a chaque modification de SV. uuuuuugh, ça rend super mal, je demanderai conseil à un BN

01:46:423 : DAMN ILEOU LE KEUR?!! Fais le au niveau de sa main, ca fera comme si il faisait entièrement partie de la map <333. pas deux fois le même truc D:

01:51:500++ : Ici tes hitsounds sont un peu confus lors de tes streams, un moment tu fait des additions Drum (ce que je trouve très légit), et après du normal, c'est assez "weird", imo tu devrait tout mettre en additional drum. Y'aura un problème avec les whistles si je fais ça. J'y réfléchirai.

Voila c'est tout ce que j'avais à dire!

Gl hf pour le troll rank!

Merci beaucoup <3

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2015-04-05T14:26:51+00:00

Hi , from my M4M queue

Insane

00:26:929 (2) - Move it down abit to about (488x, 144y)
00:52:773 (2) - I think it would look better if you moved it to (284x, 304y)
01:20:117 (1,2,3) - These notes would play well if the jumps were really small imo.
01:29:809 (1) - End slider at 01:30:386
01:53:461 (9) - Delete this note?
01:57:153 (9) - ^
02:00:845 (9) - ^
02:28:287 (5) - Make this a slider and that starts at 02:28:287 and finishes at 02:28:618. It would play alot better imo

Hard

00:27:968 (3) - I think it would look better to make the tail of the slider curve upwards more. A bit like this

01:14:579 (4) - End this slider at 01:14:925
01:29:809 (3) - End this slider at 01:30:386
02:25:973 (2,3) - Maybe make this into a 1/4 slider?

I dont get why you made this 2 songs mix but hey, peopel have shot you stars so I guess they like it

Hope this mod was helpful.

PatZar

3,079 posts

Joined March 2013

PatZar 2015-04-05T14:48:56+00:00

damn son
where do you get this?
here is my NM lol, im learning btw

[Insane]
00:16:509 - add note here,x376y60
00:18:052 - add note here, x200y276

00:45:043 (1) - x88y240
00:45:389 (2) - x248y120

02:41:843 - add note here x48y264 or stuck it.

[Hard]
01:17:118 (4) - delete this, and make as triplet like this http://puu.sh/h2ne3/1fc7d6cfa1.png. and stuck it the triplet.
01:31:309 (5,6) - like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2977126
02:41:513 - this volume is too high set it as 65% or 60%

[Normal]
00:25:656 (4) - haw about reverse slider? and 00:26:583 (1) - delete and replace with single note at here 00:26:583 - x324y86 and 00:27:045 - x124y100
01:29:347 - forgot something? add spinner here pls to 01:32:578 -
01:45:039 - reverse slider here and add note at 01:46:192 - .

that's all lol
teach me haw to mod std

Neil Watts

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1,843 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Neil Watts 2015-04-05T16:04:07+00:00

Hi Im Nathan wrote:
Hi , from my M4M queue

Insane

00:26:929 (2) - Move it down abit to about (488x, 144y) no the sounds used in background here 00:26:583 (1) - and here 00:26:929 (2) - are the same, so they're fine if they're in the same place imo.
00:52:773 (2) - I think it would look better if you moved it to (284x, 304y) yes, good idea
01:20:117 (1,2,3) - These notes would play well if the jumps were really small imo. I think they're fine
01:29:809 (1) - End slider at 01:30:386 why ?
01:53:461 (9) - Delete this note? they're triplets so nope
01:57:153 (9) - ^ ^
02:00:845 (9) - ^ ^
02:28:287 (5) - Make this a slider and that starts at 02:28:287 and finishes at 02:28:618. It would play alot better imo no

I dont get why you made this 2 songs mix but hey, peopel have shot you stars so I guess they like it Hope this mod was helpful.

Thank you! o/

Genocide wrote:
damn son
where do you get this?
here is my NM lol, im learning btw

[Insane]
00:16:509 - add note here,x376y60 w00t? no
00:18:052 - add note here, x200y276 wtf no, this is not taiko
00:45:043 (1) - x88y240
00:45:389 (2) - x248y120
02:41:843 - add note here x48y264 or stuck it. but why? i don't understand

[Normal]
00:25:656 (4) - haw about reverse slider? and 00:26:583 (1) - delete and replace with single note at here 00:26:583 - x324y86 and 00:27:045 - x124y100 but why wtf, my slider is fine, no need to reverse
01:29:347 - forgot something? add spinner here pls to 01:32:578 - effectively forgot a break here - BUT HELL NOT A SPINNER
01:45:039 - reverse slider here and add note at 01:46:192 - . b-but whyyyy

that's all lol
teach me haw to mod std

http://puu.sh/h2sSJ/6444263516.mp3
(thank you anyway ;.; )

Shiranai

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Joined August 2012

Shiranai 2015-04-05T23:15:29+00:00

Oh god it's justin <3
Helloooo M4M
Some small sugestion from me,

[General]

Have you double check the metadata? Idk haha kinda not right there, while on the song there's justin on it
Apparently you need timing here, especially on this part 01:28:886 - since Hard and Insane mapped that part, I believe you need to rechack that because the downbeat kinda sound not right there
Woow there's so many combo colors you have there, but it seems combo 2 and combo 3 is pink and almost look alike, maybe you can delete one of them or a bit re-arrange the combo because continously have pink combo in a row is not looking so good
How about you add normal-sliderslide? to make it consistent to silence the slider body, especial on justin part, it's like you use normal sampleset there

[Storyboard]

00:37:659 - 00:52:427 - 01:36:731 - 01:51:500 - I think the heart fell too fast and on my opinion the heart should be end on every kiai section (e.g. heart on this one 00:37:659 - should disapear on 00:51:966 - instead, not on this one 00:48:274 - so it can cover whole kiai section and could be applied on next kiai section that I mention earlier) and maybe you can make the heart appears smoother, so you may add fade-in effect when the beginning on the heart
01:29:809 - I think it feel better if the break begin from here on Normal 01:29:347 - and so following the transition of greyscaled bg is also start from that point

Other than that prety neat

[Normal]

Lower the OD by 1? prety high OD you have there
00:01:410 - Why that part up to here 00:15:517 - no hitsound? your Insane have sound on it while you can follow the lullaby sound there
00:50:350 (1) - spinner is a bit too short to have on the lowest diff imo, and spinner end is probably better with soft sample set there instead put the normal one there like this one 01:05:119 (1) -
01:05:119 (1) - That spinner is also probably too short, and remember you need a proper time before-after spinning so be aware the notes after-before a spinner
01:40:423 (1,2) - 01:51:500 (1,2) - Idk I think it's better to have a 1/1 slider there imo so it's consistent through this diff since on first kiai part 00:37:659 (1) - you use 1/1 slider and sound so nice
Some notes is touching and almost touching hp bar 01:19:425 (1) - 01:21:271 (1) - and maybe there's more, consider to move them down a bit

[Nozh's Hard]

00:22:130 (3,1,2,3) - Because stack is kinda mess up now, that kind of overlap is not looking so good ;(
01:01:196 (4) - That one can be stacked better under 00:59:811 (1) - http://puu.sh/h2UNz/ba66428a11.jpg
01:15:733 (1) - Move that to x:36 and y:116 then move this to x:8 y:196 to prevent overlap http://puu.sh/h2UVz/12500c8e56.jpg
01:24:271 (6) - That not sound so good because should be stop on white instead on blue tick, or you can try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/h2VaF/ef0bbc1c2a.jpg I think that 1/2 slider then circle is way nicer than the curent rhythm that you have now, so maybe if you change the rhythm like that I sugest, the flow might good if you flip this 01:23:809 (5) - and make something like this http://puu.sh/h2Vja/ac85b13993.jpg
01:27:040 (1,2) - Flow is kinda stiff there, well my opinion is rather (2) is having stacked under 01:26:117 (3) - maybe it's better to move 01:27:501 (2) - and the rest 01:27:501 (2,3,4,5) - down, to have some space to move while playing http://puu.sh/h2Xie/14445fb8ee.jpg
01:29:809 - Better have timing check there, those sliders end sound really awful there ;(
01:36:270 (1) - Why NC there? haha
02:06:906 (1) - How about delete that one? since bpm is changing there, and for the first note after bpm changing that note on red tick is hard to catch imo
02:25:973 (2,3) - That duplet is come from nowhere, prety sudden if I say, maybe change that into 1/4 slider?

[Insane]

00:05:377 (2) - Add whistle on end like 00:01:850 (2) - 00:03:614 (3) -
00:07:361 (4) - Might add whhistle as well there then better delete this whistle imo 00:07:802 (6) -
00:13:313 (5) - 00:13:313 (5) - 00:15:076 (9) - Add whistle on head? for build up before the hitsound change into drum based sound
00:18:162 (3) - Ctrl+g that one? so it can make jump with this 00:18:603 (4) -
00:47:351 (7) - Nice ❤
01:30:617 (2,3) - A bit minor, maybe move that a bit to right so it can't prevent the overlap, because the previous same rhythm is not overlapped 01:29:809 (1,2) -
I'm more consider on some rhythm something like 02:15:062 (6,1) - 02:21:674 (7,1) - 02:26:083 (3,4) - and maybe there's more especialy after justin's end. Tbh the polarity rhythm e.g. on this 02:15:062 (6,1) - not so good imo, it leaves stop rhythm idk how to say that but the rhythm is suddenly stop after (6), so the rhythm might good if (6) is changed into 3/4 slider instead. rhythm before http://puu.sh/h2ZNw/04d15b1962.jpg rhythm after http://puu.sh/h2ZOP/64c5b70b2c.jpg but it's your call want to change that or no
Tbh you can add circle with clap on some place like 02:16:715 - 02:20:242 - 02:23:769
02:16:054 (4) - 02:17:817 (6) - 02:23:107 (4) - Clap on head?
02:21:344 (5) - 02:24:871 (7) - Add clap?
02:58:816 (5) - Delete that? a bit overmap imo

[]
Re-check your hitsound, structuraly your mapset is good just need more polishment
Goodluck Neil ! catch me in-game if you have question on my mod~

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2015-04-06T21:15:13+00:00

Lazy for answers.

Aldwych wrote:
[Noz's Hard]

Maybe OD & HP -0.5 dans le but de faire 5-6-7? - Ok

00:01:410++ : Sur ce genre de pattern je te conseille en hitsound de faire : ww wn ww
w = whitsle
n = normal

Ca rapellera bien bad apple. - Pas intéressé :/

00:23:011 : J'aurais rien dit si ton slider aurait été du 1/1, mais la c'esr trop petit et la fin est caché, rework ce slider. :< - Ok

00:29:583 : Ok pour le blanket, moin ok pour les différent DS, ca fait pas super élégent visuellement. - je trouev ça bien.

00:30:275 : Sur ce genre de slider on à le beat mais pas le clap, et c'est pas top, ici tu peux faire un 3/4 puis 1/2 slider et c'est ce que je te conseille. - Préfère suivre les vocal.

00:32:121 : ^
00:33:967 : ^

Idem pour la suite si y'en a.

00:37:659 : Meme chose que pour Neil, ca manque de clap dans ton kiai section. - Ok
00:38:121 : T'as l'idée pour le rythme, maintenant, je préfère clairement deux slider que 1 slider + cercle, plus facilee à jouer imo, en + ça t'évite des 3/4 spacing que tu fais par la suite qui sont pas top à entendre (maintenant en taiko je m'en fout ca donne de la forme à la map :3 )

00:53:812 : Mais qu'est ce que vous avez avec ce genre de slider wtf! Oo. - Y pas de pb à mes yeux.

00:54:735 : Tu peux faire plus sex que ca en slider. xD - Bof no.

01:11:118 : Ici t'as rien a map, ce circle doit etre 1/2 plus tot. - Y a rien ici...

01:13:079 : Encore un 3/4 spacing pas top, c'est mieux que tu fill le tout par un 3/4 reverse slider ou 3/4 puis 1/2 slider. - Bof je trouve pas intéressant.

01:16:425 : Je doute que ces deux sliders soient parrallèles, le mieux c'est qu'ils le soient. - Ils le sont dommage.

01:23:809 : Voila c'est plus ce genre de rythme que je veux voir.
01:24:271 : Bon par contre finis ce slider a 01:24:502, parce que la ca mène à rien xD - True

01:36:270 : No need to NC here, ou alors c'est pas ici. - Ok

02:07:126+ : Curieusement, entre toi et Neil's Apple le rythme est le même, imo tu devrait un peu réduire le mapping dans cette zone la. -Enlevé un circle lol.

02:25:422 : J'aime pas trop les moyens que tu met en place pour donner le rythme, imo ca devrait etre des slider séparés par des 1/4 comme ceci :
exemple
- Le premier slider ok, le 2eme non.
nb : 3 starts at 02:26:083.

Anyway, y'a de l'idée dans le rythme, mais je suis pas fan de comment tu utilise tes objets.

Gl hf pour le troll rank!

Hi Im Nathan wrote:
Hard

00:27:968 (3) - I think it would look better to make the tail of the slider curve upwards more. A bit like this
- Just 5° rotation but rip blanket.
01:14:579 (4) - End this slider at 01:14:925 - Ok
01:29:809 (3) - End this slider at 01:30:386 - Ok
02:25:973 (2,3) - Maybe make this into a 1/4 slider? - Ok pfff

I dont get why you made this 2 songs mix but hey, peopel have shot you stars so I guess they like it Hope this mod was helpful.

Genocide wrote:
[Hard]
01:17:118 (4) - delete this, and make as triplet like this http://puu.sh/h2ne3/1fc7d6cfa1.png. and stuck it the triplet. - i don't know why I should do that.
01:31:309 (5,6) - like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2977126 - Prefer mine.
02:41:513 - this volume is too high set it as 65% or 60% - 60%

that's all lol
teach me haw to mod std

Mako Sakata wrote:
[Nozh's Hard]
00:22:130 (3,1,2,3) - Because stack is kinda mess up now, that kind of overlap is not looking so good ;( - Changed.
01:01:196 (4) - That one can be stacked better under 00:59:811 (1) - http://puu.sh/h2UNz/ba66428a11.jpg - No because spacing.
01:15:733 (1) - Move that to x:36 and y:116 then move this to x:8 y:196 to prevent overlap http://puu.sh/h2UVz/12500c8e56.jpg - Ok
01:24:271 (6) - That not sound so good because should be stop on white instead on blue tick, or you can try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/h2VaF/ef0bbc1c2a.jpg I think that 1/2 slider then circle is way nicer than the curent rhythm that you have now, so maybe if you change the rhythm like that I sugest, the flow might good if you flip this 01:23:809 (5) - and make something like this http://puu.sh/h2Vja/ac85b13993.jpg - Was a mistake and already fixed.
01:27:040 (1,2) - Flow is kinda stiff there, well my opinion is rather (2) is having stacked under 01:26:117 (3) - maybe it's better to move 01:27:501 (2) - and the rest 01:27:501 (2,3,4,5) - down, to have some space to move while playing http://puu.sh/h2Xie/14445fb8ee.jpg - Moved down a little.
01:29:809 - Better have timing check there, those sliders end sound really awful there ;( - Changed already.
01:36:270 (1) - Why NC there? haha - Because stupid ;w;
02:06:906 (1) - How about delete that one? since bpm is changing there, and for the first note after bpm changing that note on red tick is hard to catch imo - Was thinking about this one yeah, removed.
02:25:973 (2,3) - That duplet is come from nowhere, prety sudden if I say, maybe change that into 1/4 slider? - STOP STOP OKOKOK CHANGED ;w;
Re-check your hitsound, structuraly your mapset is good just need more polishment
Goodluck Neil ! catch me in-game if you have question on my mod~

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZYYYYYYYY !!!
But thanks all for the mods.

NYA BOX

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[Metadata]
Title:Bad Apple!!
TitleUnicode:Bad Apple!!
Artist:Yuyoyuppe
ArtistUnicode:Yuyoyuppe
Creator:Neil Watts
Version:Noz's Hard
Source:Touhou
Tags:baby ludacris justin bieber april fools troll
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Neil Watts

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1,843 posts

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Topic Starter

Neil Watts 2015-04-06T22:26:18+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Oh god it's justin <3
Helloooo M4M
Some small sugestion from me,

[General]
Have you double check the metadata? Idk haha kinda not right there, while on the song there's justin on it I think the metadata is fine, baby's metadata is on the tags
Apparently you need timing here, especially on this part 01:28:886 - since Hard and Insane mapped that part, I believe you need to rechack that because the downbeat kinda sound not right there sure? I think it's okay, but I'll ask for a timing check
Woow there's so many combo colors you have there, but it seems combo 2 and combo 3 is pink and almost look alike, maybe you can delete one of them or a bit re-arrange the combo because continously have pink combo in a row is not looking so good no, I these three shades of pink fits perfectly for Justin's part. I'll see what will say the other modders.
How about you add normal-sliderslide? to make it consistent to silence the slider body, especial on justin part, it's like you use normal sampleset there I don't have anything against sliderslides hitsound, but I'll see with the other modders.
[Storyboard]
oooo, a storyboard mod OwO
00:37:659 - 00:52:427 - 01:36:731 - 01:51:500 - I think the heart fell too fast and on my opinion the heart should be end on every kiai section (e.g. heart on this one 00:37:659 - should disapear on 00:51:966 - instead, not on this one 00:48:274 - so it can cover whole kiai section and could be applied on next kiai section that I mention earlier) and maybe you can make the heart appears smoother, so you may add fade-in effect when the beginning on the heart I intentionnally made the hearts disappear at 00:48:274 - because the song becomes less stronger here.
The fades are also useless since there's a blank flash at every beginning of a kiai.
01:29:809 - I think it feel better if the break begin from here on Normal 01:29:347 - and so following the transition of greyscaled bg is also start from that point I was wondering about this detail. I agree!

Other than that prety neat
[Normal]
Lower the OD by 1? prety high OD you have there that's right
00:01:410 - Why that part up to here 00:15:517 - no hitsound? your Insane have sound on it while you can follow the lullaby sound there Added a soft whistle ticking here. Let's see what will say the other modders owo
00:50:350 (1) - spinner is a bit too short to have on the lowest diff imo, and spinner end is probably better with soft sample set there instead put the normal one there like this one 01:05:119 (1) - If I make it larger, there will be not enough recuperation time before the next pattern. Also, auto got 5000 bonus, so it should be rankable. I'm open to suggestions. But nice idea for the hitsound, applied!
01:05:119 (1) - That spinner is also probably too short, and remember you need a proper time before-after spinning so be aware the notes after-before a spinner same as above :p
01:40:423 (1,2) - 01:51:500 (1,2) - Idk I think it's better to have a 1/1 slider there imo so it's consistent through this diff since on first kiai part 00:37:659 (1) - you use 1/1 slider and sound so nice okay, 1/1 restored on the first part, but I'll try to keep the different pattern in the last kiai as I did in the Insane diff.
Some notes is touching and almost touching hp bar 01:19:425 (1) - 01:21:271 (1) - and maybe there's more, consider to move them down a bit checked and fixed the whole diff
[Insane]
00:05:377 (2) - Add whistle on end like 00:01:850 (2) - 00:03:614 (3) - aww no, I don't wanna tick the map with whistles. I think it doesn't sound good - I'll see with the other mods.
00:07:361 (4) - Might add whhistle as well there then better delete this whistle imo 00:07:802 (6) - no ;_; (same reason as above)
00:13:313 (5) - 00:13:313 (5) - 00:15:076 (9) - Add whistle on head? for build up before the hitsound change into drum based sound good idea, but I feel it overmapped, because I'm not ticking the map with whistles
00:18:162 (3) - Ctrl+g that one? so it can make jump with this 00:18:603 (4) - oo yes why not!
00:47:351 (7) - Nice ❤ ❤
01:30:617 (2,3) - A bit minor, maybe move that a bit to right so it can't prevent the overlap, because the previous same rhythm is not overlapped 01:29:809 (1,2) - yes okay
I'm more consider on some rhythm something like 02:15:062 (6,1) - 02:21:674 (7,1) - 02:26:083 (3,4) - and maybe there's more especialy after justin's end. Tbh the polarity rhythm e.g. on this 02:15:062 (6,1) - not so good imo, it leaves stop rhythm idk how to say that but the rhythm is suddenly stop after (6), so the rhythm might good if (6) is changed into 3/4 slider instead. rhythm before http://puu.sh/h2ZNw/04d15b1962.jpg rhythm after http://puu.sh/h2ZOP/64c5b70b2c.jpg but it's your call want to change that or no This part is quite hard to map for me, but I think I followed the drums good enough, even if it's hard to play with accuracy. Put a 1/1 slider here will just help the player to keep stability, but it will not follow the drums.
That's an insane diff, so I think I will keep this pattern for now. I'll think about it and see with the other mods, though.
Tbh you can add circle with clap on some place like 02:16:715 - 02:20:242 - 02:23:769 Yes, but I think I put enough doublets/triplets on this parts, so I'll put jumps instead.
02:16:054 (4) - 02:17:817 (6) - 02:23:107 (4) - Clap on head? I prefer to not overuse claps here to keep a constant and progressive using of claps during the badapple part
02:21:344 (5) - 02:24:871 (7) - Add clap? same.
02:58:816 (5) - Delete that? a bit overmap imo fine for me
[]
Re-check your hitsound, structuraly your mapset is good just need more polishment
Goodluck Neil ! catch me in-game if you have question on my mod~

Very complete mod, a lot of interesting ideas - I didn't applied all of them for reasons but I'll surely think about them later and when I'll check the other mods.
Thank you very much!

Ovoui

995 posts

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2015-04-08T17:47:09+00:00

СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА

[~~Relativé~~ Général]

Ajoute un background avec elly puisque le bad apple est le theme de son stage (stage 3 de de touhou 4)
[Normal]

00:15:958 (2,3) - essaie ça http://puu.sh/h6anR.jpg ça suit mieux la musique car tu clique sur 00:17:280 (3) - qui est un son assez fort et ducoup je mettrais un nc ici 00:17:280 (3) -
00:49:658 (2,3,4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2989275 pour un meilleur flow
00:54:735 (4) - pas très esthétique je trouve
01:55:192 (1) - peut-être un peu difficile a lire

[Nozhomi le difficile]

01:31:309 (5) - overlap pas très beau je trouve je te conseille ça (en déplaçant le 5, oublie de déplacer les objets d'après)
01:58:883 (1) - déplace le un poil au dessus pour éviter un autre overlap avec 01:57:499 (7) -
02:32:255 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - peut être un peu dure a litre pour une hard

[Insane]

00:51:273 (7) - ctrl g pour un meilleur flow
01:27:848 (4) - cercles de trop je pense
01:42:731 (9) - ctrl g pour un meilleur flow
02:01:191 (11,1) - je sais pas si c'est fait exprès mais, lorsque tu joues, ces deux deux sliders ne sont pas stacké a cause de l'auto stacking qui se fait ici 02:02:576 (1,2,3) - ducoup je pense qu'il faudrait que tu dépllace 02:01:191 (11) -

shitmod <3

bonne chance pour rank o/

Neil Watts

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Topic Starter

Neil Watts 2015-04-08T19:07:22+00:00

Ovoui wrote:
СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА

[~~Relativé~~ Général]

Ajoute un background avec elly puisque le bad apple est le theme de son stage (stage 3 de de touhou 4)
trop mainstream et puis j'aime les backgrounds de loli flandre (loliflan xd) donc aucune raison de changer
[Normal]

00:15:958 (2,3) - essaie ça http://puu.sh/h6anR.jpg ça suit mieux la musique car tu clique sur 00:17:280 (3) - qui est un son assez fort et ducoup je mettrais un nc ici 00:17:280 (3) - non pour le déplacement et wtf pour le NC - Il faut être consistent dans le placement des NC, j'en ai pas mis là 00:21:248 (5) - ni 00:24:775 (3) - là donc pas là non plus Oo
00:49:658 (2,3,4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2989275 pour un meilleur flow non, mais j'ai arrangé le flow autrement
00:54:735 (4) - pas très esthétique je trouve #NeilSliders #nosuggestions
01:55:192 (1) - peut-être un peu difficile a lire les nouveaux sont noobs mais faut pas abuser Oo

[Insane]

00:51:273 (7) - ctrl g pour un meilleur flow ça colle mieux à la musique :>
01:27:848 (4) - cercles de trop je pense hell no, t'as essayé de le retirer pour voir ce que ça donne au moins?
01:42:731 (9) - ctrl g pour un meilleur flow wtf no
02:01:191 (11,1) - je sais pas si c'est fait exprès mais, lorsque tu joues, ces deux deux sliders ne sont pas stacké a cause de l'auto stacking qui se fait ici 02:02:576 (1,2,3) - ducoup je pense qu'il faudrait que tu dépllace 02:01:191 (11) - bof, ça pose pas trop de problème et ça se stack pas comme il faut, tant pis je laisse

shitmod <3

bonne chance pour rank o/

merci saucisse <3

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2015-04-09T16:40:02+00:00

Ovoui wrote:
~~СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА СОСИСКА~~

[Nozhomi le difficile] Non...

01:31:309 (5) - overlap pas très beau je trouve je te conseille ça (en déplaçant le 5, oublie de déplacer les objets d'après) - ok
01:58:883 (1) - déplace le un poil au dessus pour éviter un autre overlap avec 01:57:499 (7) - - ok
02:32:255 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - peut être un peu dure a litre pour une hard - pas ok

shitmod <3

bonne chance pour rank o/

Uguu~

NYA BOX

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annika69

184 posts

Joined October 2014

annika69 2015-04-10T20:20:19+00:00

Hello!

[Normal]
00:09:124 - Add note here? It feels a little empty
00:54:735 (4) - Fix slider, maybe something like this? http://puu.sh/h8VcS/9496d96e1b.jpg
01:08:118 - Maybe add half beat slider here instead? I know that you are following the bass, but I think that some would be a little confused
01:10:195 - Same as above
01:20:117 (2) - Curve it a little more so it doesn't touch 01:21:271 (1) - . It looks a little cleaner like that
01:57:499 (4) - Personally I think that a curve slider would be better here
02:33:357 - Feels a little empty, maybe you could add a note or make 02:32:696 (3) - reverse another time like http://puu.sh/h8WzS/654c0180e4.jpg
02:39:749 (2,3) - Maybe make them a little curvier? I think it looks better http://puu.sh/h8WHI/21940d3c56.jpg

Neil Watts

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Topic Starter

Neil Watts 2015-04-10T22:12:53+00:00

annika69 wrote:
Hello!
[Normal]
00:09:124 - Add note here? It feels a little empty why ? would be inconsistent
00:54:735 (4) - Fix slider, maybe something like this? http://puu.sh/h8VcS/9496d96e1b.jpg nice idea!
01:08:118 - Maybe add half beat slider here instead? I know that you are following the bass, but I think that some would be a little confused It's already quite hard for a Normal diff, I don't wanna increase the difficulty ; and some breaks in the map on these parts allows the player to be more accurate.
01:10:195 - Same as above same
01:20:117 (2) - Curve it a little more so it doesn't touch 01:21:271 (1) - . It looks a little cleaner like that good idea! made a blanket with 01:18:964 (3) -
01:57:499 (4) - Personally I think that a curve slider would be better here I think my slider is fine
02:33:357 - Feels a little empty, maybe you could add a note or make 02:32:696 (3) - reverse another time like http://puu.sh/h8WzS/654c0180e4.jpg a previous modder already told me to remove an element here, and I agree with that, for the same reason as above. The player needs some small breaks.
02:39:749 (2,3) - Maybe make them a little curvier? I think it looks better http://puu.sh/h8WHI/21940d3c56.jpg well why not, curved them a bit

Thanks for the mod

Kuron-kun

Kuron-kun 2015-04-11T16:54:52+00:00

asfafadgdfhfgjh

General Settings

First timing point should start one tick right. For the same reason as second timing point. The new sections are starting on the second tick, and they shuldn't start there.
Second timing point should start at Offset: 26583. You can see that all new sections aren't starting on the big white tick, instead of that, they're starting on the second one, even the kiai is starting on the second tick instead of the big one.
Third timing point should start at Offset: 126.666 and BPM should be 136,02. It's a bit off the way it's now, try to hear it on 25%.
You should add a fourth timing point at Offset: 128008 for the same reason as the frist timing point and second one.

Normal

00:22:791 (1) - Would be better to put 2 circles instead of a slider, because of the strong beat. Ending a slider on it takes out a lot of its intensity, but adding two circles would emphasize the beat.

00:32:121 (4) - Wouldn't be better to end on the red or white tick instead of the blue one? There's no sound on it, and since you were following the beats, would be really better to end on the red tick.

00:37:659 (1) - What do you think about a finish hitsound here? Since it has new section starting, and it's a really emphasizing one, wouldn't be a bad idea. Plus, there's a finish sound on the song too. Don't forget the other section of this kiai, the next ones and other diffs.

01:33:039 - It's better to lower the volume a bit, it's really really loud and killing all the song's intensity. 65% would be really good!

Noz's Hard

00:12:872 (3) - Eh, just pointing here, but weren't you adding 1/1 on those parts? Would be good to add a 1/1 slider instead of 1/2 for consistency reasons.

01:09:387 (5) - Wouldn't be better to do this? Would keep the consistency, wouldn't ignore that beat and follow the rhythm better.

02:12:086 (1) - I would suggest to delete this circle, 4 notes could be really confusing for hard players, plus that sudden rhythm change has already, probably, caused a lot of trouble to the player. Just delete the circle on the blue tick and increase the DS a bit and the flow would improve 100% ♥

02:58:706 (4) - This is a bit confusing too, since you were always starting a slider on a white tick, here you ended the 1/4 slider on it. I'd recommend to put 1 repeat, a circle on the blue tick and start the 1/2 slider on the white tick. Here. You can put a circle on that empty white tick.

Insane

00:06:700 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Nazi thing. You can improve this with the Creating Polygon tool. Put the Beat Snap Divisor on 1/2, press Ctrl + Shift + D, put "6" on "Points", rotate it and your pattern is now really beautiful!

00:47:351 (7) - Ctrl + G would improve the flow a lot, since the previous slider is leading to the left, starting this on the right is really confusing and can cause a combo break :c

03:05:760 (4) - Shouldn't the sound be low here? That Clap is really loud.

Good luck!

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-12T16:36:53+00:00

Near wrote:
asfafadgdfhfgjh

General Settings

First timing point should start one tick right. For the same reason as second timing point. The new sections are starting on the second tick, and they shuldn't start there. mh, it doesn't affect the gameplay, but okay

Second timing point should start at Offset: 26583. You can see that all new sections aren't starting on the big white tick, instead of that, they're starting on the second one, even the kiai is starting on the second tick instead of the big one. I agree!

Third timing point should start at Offset: 126.666 and BPM should be 136,02. It's a bit off the way it's now, try to hear it on 25%. I don't have bionic ears, but okay

You should add a fourth timing point at Offset: 128008 for the same reason as the frist timing point and second one. I don't think this one is needed though - I'll see with BNs if necessary
Thank you for the timing check, was very useful!

Normal

00:22:791 (1) - Would be better to put 2 circles instead of a slider, because of the strong beat. Ending a slider on it takes out a lot of its intensity, but adding two circles would emphasize the beat. Nice idea!

00:32:121 (4) - Wouldn't be better to end on the red or white tick instead of the blue one? There's no sound on it, and since you were following the beats, would be really better to end on the red tick. yes

00:37:659 (1) - What do you think about a finish hitsound here? Since it has new section starting, and it's a really emphasizing one, wouldn't be a bad idea. Plus, there's a finish sound on the song too. Don't forget the other section of this kiai, the next ones and other diffs. Already made it for the Insane diff, but I forgot the Normal diff. done

01:33:039 - It's better to lower the volume a bit, it's really really loud and killing all the song's intensity. 65% would be really good! fine, applied!

Insane

00:06:700 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Nazi thing. You can improve this with the Creating Polygon tool. Put the Beat Snap Divisor on 1/2, press Ctrl + Shift + D, put "6" on "Points", rotate it and your pattern is now really beautiful! aww, yes, I made it with the tool used to convert sliders to streams before... It looks better now.

00:47:351 (7) - Ctrl + G would improve the flow a lot, since the previous slider is leading to the left, starting this on the right is really confusing and can cause a combo break :c mmmm yes why not

03:05:760 (4) - Shouldn't the sound be low here? That Clap is really loud.I already put timing points to make the volume lesser, but, well, lowered a bit more.

Good luck!

Thank you very much, what a great mod!

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2015-04-13T00:36:46+00:00

@Near :everything is fixed ! Thanks, I change a little rhythm at 03:00:040 - with the previous suggestion because end slider on white tic was bad.

NYA BOX

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Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Nekomata 2015-04-13T18:03:24+00:00

i can't even

[General]

consider adding silenced normal-sliderslide and adjust normal to c1
consider adding silenced soft-sliderslide2

[Noz's Hard]

00:51:965 (10) - clap
01:20:117 (1,2,3) - make equilateral

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,569 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2015-04-13T19:33:46+00:00

Nekomata wrote:
i can't even

[Noz's Hard]
00:51:965 (10) - clap - Fix
01:20:117 (1,2,3) - make equilateral - Fix

uguu~

nya diff box

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Neil Watts

osu! Alumni

1,843 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Neil Watts 2015-04-13T19:40:43+00:00

Nekomata wrote:
i can't even

[General]
consider adding silenced normal-sliderslide and adjust normal to c1
consider adding silenced soft-sliderslide2
[Noz's Hard]
00:51:965 (10) - clap
01:20:117 (1,2,3) - make equilateral

wow... Short but useful enough.
for your items in General section, sorry, but I don't have anything against slider slides, so I won't remove them.

Thanks for the mod!

makemek

98 posts

Joined June 2014

makemek 2015-04-14T16:36:10+00:00

From MakeMEK's Modding Queue

Urrrgh almost not make it through the JB's part. Earsbleed

Noz's Hard
01:31:308 (5) ctrl+G?. vocal ~goning down... note to reflect vocal imo
..... very fast skim through jb's part kind a ok
02:06:036 (11,1) remove them?. Preparing for new song's transition
02:17:252 (2,3,4) clap
02:55:188 (1) NC should begin on (2)

Insane
00:43:658 (9) x=144, y=224. Old position is out of the grid

Good Luck

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,569 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2015-04-14T21:17:06+00:00

makemek wrote:
From MakeMEK's Modding Queue

Urrrgh almost not make it through the JB's part. Earsbleed - We all die for JB.

Noz's Hard
01:31:308 (5) ctrl+G?. vocal ~goning down... note to reflect vocal imo 6 I don't think it make this part play better. Also create a huge jump and I don't want it.
..... very fast skim through jb's part kind a ok
02:06:036 (11,1) remove them?. Preparing for new song's transition - Sounds too empty if I revome than and make it akward.
02:17:252 (2,3,4) clap - Sounds bad imo sorry.
02:55:188 (1) NC should begin on (2) - Ok adjust some of them after too.
Good Luck

Thanks~ (cute avatar ^^)

Nya diff or not ?

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: yuyoyuppe.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 133282
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
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Title:Bad Apple!!
TitleUnicode:Bad Apple!!
Artist:Yuyoyuppe
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Creator:Neil Watts
Version:Noz's Hard
Source:Touhou
Tags:baby ludacris justin bieber april fools troll
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Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-14T22:15:56+00:00

makemek wrote:
From MakeMEK's Modding Queue

Urrrgh almost not make it through the JB's part. Earsbleed

Insane
00:43:658 (9) x=144, y=224. Old position is out of the grid moved it a bit upper, but it should be fine if it's out of grid but still on screen
Good Luck

You should try to use [notice] instead of [quote]

Anyway, thanks for the mod!

Pereira006

osu! Alumni

2,801 posts

Joined October 2010

Pereira006 2015-04-15T15:17:13+00:00

[General]

Now I could bubble then next BN check timing or I wait somebody check Timing then I bubble because in 02:06:666 (T) is off, you can hear from Tick sound in Timing Tab, the beat isn't same time in tick sound that mean is off, I feel this need add 2 red line... I'm not good timing but my feel when i play this is off

[Normal]

Gameplay:

00:50:350 (1) - Can't approve this spinner very short, could remove spinner and do rhythm or remove 3 notes and do Spinner long, this spinner too short
01:05:119 (1) - ^ same
01:07:195 (1,2) - the blanket is still off or is intentional?
01:19:425 (1) - Dunno why you did NC this, should remove
02:04:190 (1) - same in 00:50:350 (1)
02:15:047 (5) - should put NC because 02:13:282 at 02:41:072 you put every NC is 1/1, so this should be NC too
02:18:134 (1) - should remove nc

[Noz's Hard]

Hitsound:

00:42:736 (5) - missing add clap in begin I can see other parts have, so look like you missing add
00:45:505 (2) - Dunno why you need this whistle, but mostly other rhythm is loop, so other parts rhythm doesn't have whistle like this, need remove whistle

Gameplay:

00:26:583 (T) - dunno why you need 2 timing, you should remove green timing, because you can change volume and hitsound in red line, so Green doesn't need it...

look good

[Insane]

We did talk stuff is Hitsound, gameplay and AR

Gameplay:

01:12:271 (6) - ins't should be NC or NC in 01:11:580 (5) ?
01:34:885 (3) - need NC the rhythm is change also this is insane
01:46:423 (6) - the end is out Area.
01:57:499 (11) - just be honest, the begin is up and the end is down look like is unsymentric use this code
```
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```

all look good
[]
Well all look good
I will wait when you find good timing
Ask me if you don't understand my english
Call me need if you ready and good luck

Nozhomi

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4,569 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2015-04-15T16:02:30+00:00

Pereira006 wrote:
[Noz's Hard]

Hitsound:

00:42:736 (5) - missing add clap in begin I can see other parts have, so look like you missing add - Fix
00:45:505 (2) - Dunno why you need this whistle, but mostly other rhythm is loop, so other parts rhythm doesn't have whistle like this, need remove whistle - Was a mistake from me sorry.
Gameplay:

00:26:583 (T) - dunno why you need 2 timing, you should remove green timing, because you can change volume and hitsound in red line, so Green doesn't need it... - Nice catch fixed.
look good

Well all look good
I will wait when you find good timing
Ask me if you don't understand my english
Call me need if you ready and good luck

Thanks Pereira~

Nya box ?

osu file format v14

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216,176,178717,2,0,L|216:232,2,35,10|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
213,133,179048,1,0,0:0:0:0:
207,86,179158,6,0,L|139:58,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
62,32,179599,2,0,L|68:120,1,70,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,186,180040,1,2,0:0:0:0:
76,270,180261,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,348,180481,2,0,P|87:351|137:329,1,70,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,272,180922,6,0,P|196:320|216:360,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,340,181363,2,0,P|317:306|316:272,1,70,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,200,181804,1,2,0:0:0:0:
188,132,182025,2,0,L|268:120,1,70,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,100,182466,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,100,182576,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,100,182687,6,0,L|330:175,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,240,183128,2,0,L|252:185,1,70,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,116,183569,1,2,0:0:0:0:
156,184,183789,1,0,0:0:0:0:
108,252,184010,1,10,0:0:0:0:
192,260,184231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,184,184451,6,0,L|110:112,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,116,184892,2,0,L|241:174,1,70,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,260,185333,2,0,L|146:332,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,328,185774,2,0,L|273:269,1,70,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,186216,12,0,188861,0:0:0:0:

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-15T21:05:41+00:00

Pereira006 wrote:
[General]

Now I could bubble then next BN check timing or I wait somebody check Timing then I bubble because in 02:06:666 (T) is off, you can hear from Tick sound in Timing Tab, the beat isn't same time in tick sound that mean is off, I feel this need add 2 red line... I'm not good timing but my feel when i play this is off
[Normal]

Gameplay:

00:50:350 (1) - Can't approve this spinner very short, could remove spinner and do rhythm or remove 3 notes and do Spinner long, this spinner too short second option
01:05:119 (1) - ^ same same
01:07:195 (1,2) - the blanket is still off or is intentional? I wasn't trying to make a blanket. Anyway, fixed.
01:19:425 (1) - Dunno why you did NC this, should remove mh okay
02:04:190 (1) - same in 00:50:350 (1) the two other spinners were short, but this one is 7/2, I think it's enough
02:15:047 (5) - should put NC because 02:13:282 at 02:41:072 you put every NC is 1/1, so this should be NC too fixed
02:18:134 (1) - should remove nc yep fixed
[Insane]

We did talk stuff is Hitsound, gameplay and AR AR set to 8.5 - Hitsounds fixed in Insane diff

Gameplay:
01:12:271 (6) - ins't should be NC or NC in 01:11:580 (5) ?
01:34:885 (3) - need NC the rhythm is change also this is insane yep forgot it
01:46:423 (6) - the end is out Area. ok fixed
01:57:499 (11) - just be honest, the begin is up and the end is down look like is unsymentric use this code okay
468,280,117499,2,2,B|324:260|256:328|256:328|188:260|44:280,1,450.000017166138,10|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
all look good
[]
Well all look good
I will wait when you find good timing
Ask me if you don't understand my english
Call me need if you ready and good luck

Thank you very much! I'll find somebody to check the timing.

meii18

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meii18 2015-04-17T11:44:21+00:00

Here's the log :3

:D

11:37 Neil Watts: oh thank you

11:37 ByBy_ChAn: np
11:37 Neil Watts: well, here's my map
11:37 *Neil Watts is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/670892 Yuyoyuppe - Bad Apple!!]
11:37 Neil Watts: Pereira told me to find a BN for the timing
11:37 ByBy_ChAn: my lucky that I have supporter
11:38 ByBy_ChAn: okay :3
11:39 Neil Watts: Shiro is too busy to do it, and a lot of people dislikes my song anyway haha
11:39 ByBy_ChAn: ;w;
11:41 Neil Watts: hope you'll like it, I need to rank it before May, you'll quickly understand why when testing :p
11:46 ByBy_ChAn: why before may ?
11:47 Neil Watts: you'll understand if you test it

11:47 ByBy_ChAn: okay
11:48 ByBy_ChAn: wait when you will test your map ? you mean to play it ?
11:48 Neil Watts: no, but listen the music and see the storyboard too

11:48 ByBy_ChAn: ok
11:49 Neil Watts: that's why I have to rank it this month or next year
11:51 ByBy_ChAn: justin bieber ?
11:51 Neil Watts: yes

11:51 Neil Watts: april fools map
11:51 ByBy_ChAn: I don't understand ;w;
11:51 Neil Watts: look at the storyboard lol
11:51 ByBy_ChAn: ahh yea I saw
11:52 ByBy_ChAn: but april fools are in april
11:52 Neil Watts: yes
11:52 ByBy_ChAn: and why you want to rank it just in may ?
11:52 Neil Watts: no, no, before may
11:52 Neil Watts: so this month ^^
11:52 ByBy_ChAn: okay
11:53 Neil Watts: d-do you like it ? ;;
11:53 ByBy_ChAn: sure
11:54 Neil Watts: yay \o/
11:54 Neil Watts: a lot of people denied my mod request because of justin bieber
11:54 Neil Watts: I don't understand, he's so cute, with these pink hearts
11:54 ByBy_ChAn: yeah
11:54 ByBy_ChAn: your lucky I'm a girl

11:55 Neil Watts: haha
11:58 ByBy_ChAn: and the ''april fools'' text with mr.bean it's so funny

and I like it
11:58 Neil Watts: it's not mr.bean
11:58 Neil Watts: it's Justin Beanber
11:58 ByBy_ChAn: ahh yes
11:58 Neil Watts:

12:09 ByBy_ChAn: ok
12:09 *ByBy_ChAn is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/670892 Yuyoyuppe - Bad Apple!! [Insane]]
12:10 Neil Watts: yes?
12:10 ByBy_ChAn: place the first red line to 00:01:409 ()- it fit much better and also check the beat of the osu! circle in the main menu after you changed the first offset
12:11 Neil Watts: a modder told me something else, because the rhythm in the song begins after
12:11 Neil Watts: so I changed
12:12 ByBy_ChAn: the first red line ?
12:12 Neil Watts: yes
12:12 ByBy_ChAn: okay
12:12 ByBy_ChAn: good
12:12 Neil Watts: t/315454/start=30
12:12 Neil Watts: first post in the page
12:12 Neil Watts: but I can revert if necessary
12:13 ByBy_ChAn: ahh yeah I saw it already
12:14 Neil Watts: what do you think ? Should I revert? or this detail doesn't matter?
12:14 ByBy_ChAn: hmm
12:14 Neil Watts: Pereira told me there is a timing problem after the bieber part
12:14 ByBy_ChAn: ahh I saw
12:14 Neil Watts: 02:06:267 -
12:15 ByBy_ChAn: yeah sounds too weird
12:20 ByBy_ChAn: try offset 02:06:267 ()-
12:20 ByBy_ChAn: and then try to resnap the green lines and the objects
12:21 Neil Watts: really ? D:
12:21 ByBy_ChAn: I resnapped the first two objects after 02:06:267 ()- and they fit much better the song now
12:21 Neil Watts: 02:06:267 - follows bieber's part
12:21 ByBy_ChAn: yes
12:21 ByBy_ChAn: try
12:22 Neil Watts: I don't understand
12:22 Neil Watts: 02:06:776 (1,2) - should follow bad apple's part
12:23 ByBy_ChAn: yes
12:23 ByBy_ChAn: wait
12:24 ByBy_ChAn: the objects from 02:07:148 ()- are really louder.why you not try to decrease the volume here ?
12:25 Neil Watts: yes why not
12:38 ByBy_ChAn: you changed ?
12:38 Neil Watts: yes
12:38 Neil Watts: but it doesn't fix the timing problem
12:39 ByBy_ChAn: okay
12:39 Neil Watts: anyway, thanks for the checking, it was helpful :3
12:39 ByBy_ChAn: np

Also in Noz's hard : 01:35:000(3)- Unsnapped note . Should be placed on 01:34:885()- to follow well the strong beat from the song

Good Luck ~

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-17T17:52:22+00:00

Spent 6 full hours to make a new MP3 and ajust every timing points/notes/storyboard events.

Please don't tell me anything about the timing anymore. ;_____;

(also, thank you @byby_chan!)

Pereira006

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Pereira006 2015-04-17T18:10:50+00:00

The mp3 is change, for now timing is more better
Fix 1 thing in insane

Everthing look good

Bubble

Kyouren

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Kyouren 2015-04-18T16:09:03+00:00

Reason for popped:

01. MP3 is bad, in editing, volume, and kpbs! (That so unrankable!)

02. Storyboard in Justin Bieber is so bad revolution, etc. 00:26:537 - 00:37:382

03. Why in:
Bad Apple: 136.10 and 136.020
Baby: 130.01?

Change to 136.00 and 130.00 <--- that can be fine
and 01:30:570 - 01:32:993 is green timing? Change to Red timing!

04. 02:06:221 - 02:13:278 - need remap again!

I ask with ByBy_ChAn and she said yes!

Trying edit like this map:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28222
or ask with Mapper editing MP3 pro!
Yuyoyuppe vs. Justin Bieber (featruing Ludacris) - Bad Apple!! vs. Baby (Troll ver.) xD

NO KDS~ and Good Luck~ :3

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-18T16:44:39+00:00

wait what
are you kidding me ;_;

gokugohan12468 wrote:
Reason for popped:

01. MP3 is bad, in editing, volume, and kpbs! (That so unrankable!)
Editing: I fully remade it, so if you think it's unrankable, just tell me where it's unrankable - please argument, otherwise I can't improve the map
Volume: I don't hear any volume difference between the two parts, and if there is one little, is it really unrankable? Just check the other ranked song compilations
EDIT: No changes for the volume, but if you find the exact unrankable volume difference between the two parts, I'll change the mp3...
Kbps: 128kbps is rankable. Audacity can only render at 128kbps. Deal with it.

02. Storyboard in Justin Bieber is so bad revolution, etc. 00:26:537 - 00:37:382
okay for this part, there is ONE PIXEL who appears and disappears a bit too fast, it's fixable but... seriously, have you only this argument?
I honestly don't see anything else "so bad" in the storyboard... Please argument...
EDIT: fixed the pixel

03. Why in:
Bad Apple: 136.10 and 136.020
Baby: 130.01?
Bad Apple: well, it isn't like you can hear the difference unless you have bionic ears... but it's fixable...
Baby: yes, BPM comes from the ranked baby map

EDIT: Fixed Bad Apple timing

Change to 136.00 and 130.00 <--- that can be fine
hell no. This is the real BPM. are you stressed because it's decimal?
and 01:30:570 - 01:32:993 is green timing? Change to Red timing!
this doesn't change anything to gameplay. But if you prefer, why not
04. 02:06:221 - 02:13:278 - need remap again!
why ? arguments please
This part is good enough imo

I ask with ByBy_ChAn and she said yes!

Trying edit like this map:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28222
or ask with Mapper editing MP3 pro!
Yuyoyuppe vs. Justin Bieber (featruing Ludacris) - Bad Apple!! vs. Baby (Troll ver.) xD

NO KDS~ and Good Luck~ :3

Anyway... thank you uwu

ghm12

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ghm12 2015-04-23T15:28:14+00:00

Audacity can render at 192kbps actually, you just need to change it into options when you need to put the filename, same as below

poi

but, like you said, 128kbps is fine, it's still rankable

Nice map btw, good luck in ranking!

Neil Watts

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Neil Watts 2015-04-23T16:28:47+00:00

ow
Didn't noticed D:
It's a bit late, and making a new mp3 (with timing updates) will take a whole afternoon so I'll do it if I really need to change the MP3 again.

Thanks for the tip anyway!

Secretpipe

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Secretpipe 2015-04-24T09:48:25+00:00

Alright! Call me for a rebubble if you wanna change mp3

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