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KMFDM - Bitches

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Topic Starter
La Cataline
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 17 августа 2010 г. at 22:03:50

Artist: KMFDM
Title: Bitches
BPM: 160
Filesize: 8205kb
Play Time: 03:21
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,78 stars, 168 notes)
  2. Hard (4,25 stars, 318 notes)
  3. Insane (4,93 stars, 428 notes)
Download: KMFDM - Bitches
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Arusha Shuna
Request Accepted

flaws... flaws...

►first of all the only timing section you need is the first one, delete other timing sections (NOT inherited timing section) and set the BPM to 160
►the spacing is messy, make sure you're using distance snap
►the BG dimension should be 800x600px not 500x333, either resize OR find a better BG
►delete the .osb file and re-full submit
►set a preview point for the song
►use AImod to find any other flaws
that's it, can't do a proper mod until you fix this sorry
Topic Starter
La Cataline
done *__*
Arusha Shuna
Re-check tiem!

the offset is wrong, the offset must be on the very first beat
don't use 1/8 beat-snapping unless you have to, if you found yourself using 1/8 all the time then your offset is wrong
here's the Offset = 24062

also you need another diff, both easier and harder. file -> clear all notes, -> file save as new difficulty, start working!

IMO you shold add +2/+3 HP drain to the normal diff

good work, i see improvements

p.s. nice skin BTW :3
p.s.s. be sure to give kudosu to my posts if you found my mods useful for you map :3
p.s.s.s. also give kudosu to my last post please. :p
Topic Starter
La Cataline
ok, i've done it.
[DBF]
[Overall]
Kai-time не должен идти во время перерывов.
Названия сложностей надо изменить на [Easy] [Normal] [Hard] т.к их название запутывает.

Тебе сейчас надо просто пересоздать карту и использовать то что я написал, и старайся сделать не тяжелую карту.
Твоя задача сейчас - сделать простую, играбельную карту, главное что бы она была понятна, приятна на звуки и
легко читалась, напиши мне в пм/игру после всего того что сделаешь, только не в mod queue.

[Pioneers]
Для такого спейсинга подойдет Slider Velocity 0,70.. но не больше, слайдеры слишком быстрые.
Меняй эту опцию и переделывай изю, ну или можешь попросить меня - я сделаю по реквесту если иной будет.

Нужны хитсаунды, ими вобще не пахнет в изи, когда будешь переделывать добавляй звуки под ритм.
Хотя бы стандартные клапы под BPM и финиши

02:00:062 (1) - такие спиннеры очень короткие для изи, спиннеры в изи должны быть средние или длинные,
но не переборщай с ними.

[Villains]
Используй такую вещь как distance snap (кнопка справа внизу) это инструмент для расстояния между
битами, слайдерами и т.д. Пожалуй это первое что бросается тут в глаза - не верный спейсинг, из за не
использования нужного инструмента.

Опять же, уменьши Slider Velocity, но на чуть-чуть.

И конечно же звуки, по ходу создания карты делай их под ритм.

[Bitches]
distance snap тебе в руки, ну и с хитсаундами та же песня.

но песня мне нравится.

Star~
aRiskOfRain
This is timed incorrectly; go get someone who knows what they're doing when it comes to that. Until then, I can't mod this, sorry.
Topic Starter
La Cataline
that happened because i changed the mp3. now i think everything's OK.
aRiskOfRain
General;
Combo colours the same on all diffs.

Easy;
02:00:062 (6,1) - Switch these new combos around.
02:30:812 (4) - New combo.

Normal;
00:30:062 (3) - New combo.
00:35:124 (1) - No new combo.
00:44:687 (3) - New combo.
00:57:812 (1) - No new combo OR 00:58:562 (3) - New combo.
More like a hard really.
Be careful with combo consistency.

Hard;
00:30:062 (3) - New combo.

That's all.
wmfchris
[General]
The spacing differs too much. Maybe you can resnap that a bit for [hard] and [normal]

[hard]
0:36:812 (3) down 1 grid
0:41:124 (3) down+left 1 grid
0:42:062 (1) left 1 grid
0:46:937 (3) up 1 grid
0:47:312 (1) right 1 grid
1:01:187 (2) spacing different from last (1,2), down 1 grid
1:01:937 (2) ^, up 1 grid
1:09:062 (1) up 1 grid
1:12:249 (2) down 2 grid
1:58:937 (3) left 1 grid
2:18:999 (2) right 1 grid
3:21:062 (1) why it is curved towards left hand side at the end? Make it symmetrical~
Seems better end at 3:23:874, and maybe cut the mp3 a bit?

star.
Tatsuo
Hai, here's my mod~

[Overall]
Offset seems a bit off. But that's just me. I could be wrong.
I suggest you map [Easy] to the same length as the other difficulties.

[Easy]
01:33:160 - I'm not too fond of how this slider is surrounded by break times.

[Normal]
03:01:660 (2) - Make this part of the next combo.
03:06:160 (2) - New combo
03:07:660 (3) - Make this part of the next combo.

[Hard]
00:34:660 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:35:222 (1) - Remove new combo.

That's all I could see.
Here you go.
*throws a star at you*
Have fun~
IceBeam
Привет.

[General]
Почему на разных сложность разная сетка? В любом случае,такая сетка не пойдёт,у тебя будет много неровностей с мапой.View--> Grid Level 2 (лучше 3) для Easy.

Добавь approachcircle* для скина,даже если он такой же,как стандартный.

Ну и цвета...Такие же как БГ.В осу из-за скина нет проблем,а вот в том же CtB сливается.В любом случае,я б тебе посоветовал добавить какой-нибудь 4-ый контрастный цвет.Может ярко-красный? Вообщем,на твоё усмотрение,просто мнение.

[All Difficulties]
01:12:160 (x) - Kiai должно начинатся непосредственно на месте ноты.
01:23:410 (x) - Закончи Kiai здесь.
02:24:160 (x) - Старт Kiai.
02:35:785 (x) - Конец Kiai.

[Easy]
Используй Distance Snap везде,желательно.В изи по-крайней мере.Иначе в:
00:25:660 (2) - Нет логики по сути.Случайным образом выбранно расположение.Ты мог бы наверное сделать Flip Horizontally,расположив бы её симетрично,но это скорей для хардов больше,где нарушение дистанции в умеренном количестве и порядке это нормально,но в изе...Вообщем это нехорошо.Правда советую тебя сразу всё изменить,проснапить,чем бы потом тебя за это ругали БАТы.

02:10:660 (1) - Спиннеры в изе посреди песни,да ещё и 2 подряд,да ещё и сразу сиркл после него.Это не есть хорошо.

Ещё бы я не советовал тебе мапать изи целиком,особенно если есть и хард и нормал целые.Но это так,на будующее.

Вообще тут много где сирклы не попадают в слова,но в изе это приемлимо,что бы не нарушать однородный ритм,поэтому пусть всё будет,как есть.

[Normal]
00:36:535 (1) - Да,понимаю,что ты следуешь этим ударам,но нужно и за словами следить тоже.Вообщем,хочешь используй,хочешь нет - мои ноты:[00:36:160 (1),00:36:535 (2),00:37:097 (3),00:37:660 (4),00:37:847 (5),00:38:222 (6),00:38:785 (7),00:39:160 (8),00:39:347 (9),00:39:910 (10),00:40:097 (11)]
00:45:347 - Убери,здесь не нужна.
01:57:160 (1,1) - Формы у слайдеров какие-то странные.Сделай первый ровным,а второй скопируй и сделай Vertically и Horizontally Flip.
02:25:660 (6) - Расположи в той же точке,что и 02:24:160 (1).Тем более это дистанция та же.
02:59:597 (1) - Добавь сиркл.
03:02:785 (4) - Что-то не нравится мне тут...на 1 влево,под (2,3).Остальное тоже выравняй.
03:07:660 (1,2,3) - Смести всех на 1 вправо,что бы линия центра проходила посередине сикрла.
03:08:785 (4,5,6) - Построй ромбообразно.

[Hard]
Много моментов,где ты ставишь сирклы,уже не следуя словам,особенно в конце длинных комбо.Это конечно не ошибка,но всё же,как факт.

02:14:410 (1) - Перетащи на 02:14:222.
03:23:410 (5) - Измени форму.Хотя на твоё усмотрение,но выглядит правда не очень.

В целом очень даже неплохо.Проси больше моддинга,думаю ранкнут,удачи.Стар~
Kecco
•Overall•
What do you think about changing the audio to Normal on the kiai time sections?
I think the combo colours are not very visible. Change it Red, Orange and Yellow?
Offset : 1.654 ~ Resnap All Notes
In the song's folder remove the .osb file, then Full Submit.

•Hard•
01:47:785 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:00:160 (4) - New combo.
02:02:222 (1) - Remove new combo
02:04:660 (1) - ^
02:05:785 (1) - ^
02:07:660 (1,1,1,1) - ^
03:23:410 (5) - This slider is awful, make it in another way.

•Normal•
In normal diff are not allowed jumps.
00:25:473 (1) - This is a jump, distance error. Fix it.
02:33:160 (1,1) - Those spinners are too quick for Normal players. Make those only 1?
02:45:160 (1,1) - ^

•Easy•
01:26:785 (5) - Distance error.
01:32:410 (5) - ^
03:02:035 (3) - ^
02:09:160 (1,1) - Those spinners are too quick for Normal players. Make those only 1?
02:12:160 (1) - This slider has to be closer to the centre-grid since there is a spinner previously.
02:36:160 (1) - ^

Star~
Topic Starter
La Cataline
offset updated to 1.1634
NotShinta
General
Possibly use more contrasting combo colours?

Easy
00:42:134 (1) - Remove new combo?
03:15:696 (2) - Weird ticks.

Normal
01:21:134 (1,1) - Merge.
02:01:634 (1) - Ugly, copypaste 02:00:134 (1) and flip.
02:55:634 (2) - ^, 02:54:134 (1), remove repeat, ^

Hard
02:28:634 (4) - New combo?

Yawn have a star
-David
Mod! [REQUEST VIA QUEUE]

[Hard]
HP Drain - Move right 1

Kinda got bored of the song.

+Star!~
banvi
Hello :D

mod
SPOILER
General
Rhythm is good~
Easy
I think , the number of hitsounds is very small ;_;
01:08:384 (4) 1 grid up?(grid lv2)
Normal
00:51:884 (3) remove new combo
00:53:571 (1) remove new combo
00:57:884 (1) ^
01:00:509 (2) 1 grid right?(grid lv3)
01:02:009 (6) 1 grid up?(^)
01:06:884 (1) remove new combo
01:12:509 (2) 1 grid down(^)
01:13:259 (4) 1 grid up(^)
01:38:196 (1) remove new combo
01:40:634 (1,1,1,1) make these all one combo?
01:42:134 (1,1,1) ^
01:46:259 (1,1,1,1,1) ^
02:00:884 (1) remove new combo
02:02:384 (1) ^
02:07:259 (1,1,1,1,1) make these all one combo?
02:25:634 (6) new combo
02:30:884 (1) remove new combo
02:32:384 (1) ^
02:41:009 (1) ^
02:42:134 (1,1,1,1) make these all one combo?
Hard
00:37:634 (5) 1 grid down?(grid lv3)
00:47:384 (1) remove new combo
00:57:884 (1) ^
01:04:259 (1) ^
01:05:009 (2) new combo
01:06:884 (1) remove new combo
01:13:634 (1) ^
01:15:134 (1) ^
01:16:634 (1) ^
01:18:696 (1) ^
01:20:196 (1) ^
01:40:634 (1,1,1,1) make these all one combo?
01:59:384 (1) remove new combo
02:00:134 (4) new combo
02:02:196 (1) remove new combo
02:14:196 (1) ^
02:31:259 (1) ^
02:41:009 (1) ^
02:42:134 (1,1,1,1) ^

This map is good 8-)
star~
Kurai
Hi~

[easy]
00:38:384 (3,1) - put 1/2 earlier
00:49:634 (2) - Extand by 1/1
02:17:759 (x) - Add note ?

[Hard]
00:32:009 (6) - Remove and put a circle. Move 00:32:384 (7) 1/2 earlier and extand by 1/2

You get my star 8D
kino77
Hi~Nice map and skin~

[General]
Delete .osb file and full submit?

[Easy]
00:30:134 (1,3) - Whistle?
01:56:759 - Clap?
02:07:259 - ^

[Normal]
00:34:634 (1) - Remove nc?
00:40:634 (1) - ^
00:43:634 (1) - ^
00:55:259 (1) - ^
01:15:696 (3) - Put it between 2 and 4?
01:51:884 (3) - Remove Whistle?
01:52:071 (4) - Remove Whistle and clap?
01:57:509 - Clap?
01:58:259 - ^
01:59:009 (5) - Remove whistle and clap it?
02:09:134 (1) - Remove clap?
02:22:634 (1) - End with next white tick?
02:55:259 (2) - Put right under end of 1?
03:01:634 (1) - Turn down the volume little bit from here to 03:11:759 (3) ?

[Hard]
Hitsound mod
SPOILER
00:28:259 (4) - Whistle?
00:39:509 - ^
00:40:259 - ^
00:41:009 (2,5) - ^
00:43:259 - ^
00:44:009 (2) - ^
00:44:759 (1) - ^
00:45:509 - ^
00:46:259 (1,3) - ^
00:47:759 - Add note here and whistle it?
00:48:321 (2) - Remove whistle except white tick?
00:49:259 (4) - Whistle?
00:49:821 (2) - Remove whistle except white tick?
00:50:759 (4) - Whistle?
00:51:509 (3) - ^
00:53:009 (2) - ^
00:54:509 (3) - ^
00:55:259 (1,3) - ^
01:00:509 (2,4) - ^
01:02:009 (2) - ^
01:03:509 (2) - ^
01:04:259 (4) - ^
01:05:009 (1,5) -
01:08:009 - ^
03:12:134 (1) - Same hitsound pattern here?
03:22:634 (1) - Normal hitsound from here?
03:24:134 - Finish?
Star~
Mok
Updated Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3
If I found a beat who must be added, i'll write it.
Remember to check spacing after all modfies :3
If my mod was helpful, feed me with kudosu.

[General]
You need a tag.

[Easy]
01:06:134 (1,2,3,4) - Put this four better.

[Normal]
Check all map spacing.
00:25:446 (1) - Jump.

[Hard]
Check all map spacing.
Garven
As per your request:

The mp3 just kind of suddenly ends. Maybe try to have it fade out instead?

[Skin]
The spinner center is really off and you get that wharbly off-loaded washing machine effect. It looks really bad. D:
The rest is pretty awesome.

[Easy]
00:37:634 (2,3) - Maybe turn these into a slider? The rhythm is iffy on an easy, though the rhythm is different from 00:34:634 (2,3) right before it even though the vocals are the same...
Hrm, in general the red ticks are hard to tell due to the low distance snap. Maybe turn some of these into sliders.
02:09:509 (5) - Having a note so soon after this may be confusing to new people since they'd not have a good way of telling when it's going to end.
02:17:759 (1,2) - Spacing
02:36:134 (1) - Really soon after a spinner. I'd end the spinner earlier.
03:08:009 (3) - Same as 0209509
03:12:134 (1) - ^
03:15:134 (1,2) - Maybe reset these into longer sliders.

[Normal]
01:52:446 (5) - This slider is goofy lookin'. I think it's because of the red anchor...

[Hard]
Why is that last break in a different spot than the other two difficulties? It makes the part afterward feel really short and pointless.
Otherwise, fine.

Decent map set, though the style lends to the maps looking unpolished. I guess that's what you're going for with this kind of song/skin though, eh?
Frill
These are suggestions, you don't have to change anything.

[General]

*Can't anything be added to tag?

[Easy]

00:31:634 (3) - add whistle

[Hard]

00:53:571 (3) - add whistle?
00:56:571 (5) - ^
01:36:884 (3) - remove whistle?
01:48:134 (1) - add whistle?
Topic Starter
La Cataline
everything done except i haven changed the mp3
Astom
Nice skin =)
Star~

PD: My post 666 xD fit the song ^^
jericho2442
(suggestion) is just that
BLACK = best to take a look at this
RED = REALLY need to fix this,

[easy]
01:57:134 (4) - new combo
03:15:134 (5) - new combo

[Normal]
(suggestion) 03:09:509 (6) - remove this note and i think it plays much better

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everything else seems pretty smooth, enjoy a star ;)
Topic Starter
La Cataline

jericho2442 wrote:

[easy]
01:57:134 (4) - new combo
03:15:134 (5) - new combo

[Normal]
(suggestion) 03:09:509 (6) - remove this note and i think it plays much better
done
arien666
Good song for me :3
Anyway, good luck yay!
batman1284
playtested
Sonic Fumes
okay, i've done some sound setting and others, so you might as well call it this.

Download: KMFDM - Bitches (La Cataline) [Sonic's Extreme CTB].osu
Topic Starter
La Cataline

SonicArena1 wrote:

okay, i'v edone some sound setting and others, so you might as well call it this.
kinda don't like the normal sample set in the chorus.
Sonic Fumes
ok, this is like and made it like an extreme CTB.

Download: KMFDM - Bitches (La Cataline) [Sonic's Extreme CTB].osu
Topic Starter
La Cataline

SonicArena1 wrote:

ok, this is like and made it like an extreme CTB.
please re-dl the map and set all the timing sections as if they are in another difficulties
iDwarf
IRC Mod ~
Doomsday
Blue = design/minor issues. you do not have to change these if you don't want to.
Orange = moderate issues. it would be best if you change these.
Red = major issues. you need to change these

  1. Timing seems perfect
  2. I don't think "english rock" should be in the tags, since those should be in the genre when it is added.
[EASY]

No problems here. Spacings a little cramped, but nothing major.

[SONIC'S EXTREME CTB]

Im not a big expert at CtB, but apart from some jumps that don't make sense in the slower bits, seems fine.
Maybe CtB players like jumps like that, I dunno. Im just sayin'.

[HARD]

Looks good

[INSANE]

Lower Overall difficulty by 1 or 2 notches? Feels too high imo.

02:59:765 (x) - Put a break here?

Not too bad. Its not the most amazing map I've ever played, but its far from bad. the CtB diff is a bit shaky, but apart from that, pretty solid.

Starred
Topic Starter
La Cataline

Doomsday93 wrote:

I don't think "english rock" should be in the tags, since those should be in the genre when it is added.
oh, thanks. I've put these words there just to fill the field and now I can surely get rid of them :D

Doomsday93 wrote:

Lower Overall difficulty by 1 or 2 notches? Feels too high imo.
Fixed.

Doomsday93 wrote:

02:59:765 (x) - Put a break here?
There was a break here, but I mapped over it.
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