Lanturn wrote:
If I was allowed to choose from a pool of promoted maps, then I wouldn't have a problem with this system. In fact, I'd personally love it. This also means that the mapper themself has taken the time (Except you Mr. NC here) to look over other mapsets so they in turn could improve on their own sets. It gives more value to the KDs
What I don't agree with is this supposed 'forced summoning' thing that the OP was mentioning. Many of the BNs are getting this image that they have to mod the map, which violates the freedom we've been given as said directly in the BAT rules (this) that we can mod what we want.
I really do support being able to move/duplicate your map thread to a special forum in the pending maps section such as "BN Ready Maps" and have it listed by star priority there. Of course the map would NEED the +12 SP required for a bubble before you could do this action. The 'bonus' thing would encourage BNs to look at it as well. This is honestly a win win situation as long as no one is forced to mod anything.
It might also help simulate the upcoming Modding v2 in some ways, which is a pretty awesome idea. I've honestly had an idea of opening a queue similar to this, where users could post there maps upon reaching certain criteria to let us BNs know which ones are possibly ready. I'm not sure if "buying" your way into this is the best option, but having a way to encourage BNs to check these maps is what we need, even if it is through bonuses.
BNs are already REQUIRED to icon a certain amount of maps, and mod as well. Having that little extra bonus would help them out lots.
Another reason why new mappers don't get as much attention is because of disqualifications, and this is partially why BNs don't like touching inexperienced mappers. There is a higher risk of a map getting DQ'd from them, and the penalty from a DQ is pretty big sadly.
I hope a system where users can nominate their own maps exists in the near future, (modding v2 should be doing this maybe?) but as I mentioned, we BNs should not be forced to.
Thanks for showing the BAT rules, that I didn't find. Well, the certain amount can be reached by modding and approving your friends, and doesn't require to approve less known mappers.
This pool you talk about is the kind of things I proposed in my last post. A category where maps nominated by users could go, and maybe give a better bonus to the BNs who mod them, as you suggest.
The +12SP limit isn't that important, looking at how many 12+ SP maps hasn't got any BN mod yet. It shows again how Kudosus have little point for now. Having a bonus or a pool for maps with higher SP (not 12, but a higher amount) in order to promote them, along with user votes could be a better option than forcing people to mod.
As I stated before, I don't like the idea of forcing people to mod. However, when the BNs don't mod everybody equally, there is a need for some changes, and if forcing to mod lesser known mappers is one of those, then it should be considered. As you could see, I'm open to any idea involving promoting maps
equally and having BN to mod
equally.
What is that Disqualification thing ? Maps getting out of the Qualified pool ? In that case, that would mean the BNs who nominated didn't really check the map, and Qualified too soon. It has nothing to do with the mapper, if it's as I supposed before. The BNs could just have modded and told what was wrong, and helped the mapper improve his map.
Lust wrote:
Everybody starts somewhere. Nobody looking at your map? Then mod to become a BN yourself and then mod for mod with the others once you do. Its not like the nominators are a closed group, work hard to hit that modder score and gain attention for your own work! It all builds up and certainly doesn't happen over night
So, you say too that to have mods, being a BN is required ? It shouldn't. Everybody should have equal chances to have BN mods.
Lally wrote:
for what do we have modding queues then? yes in this case is hard to get to it but not for all BNs =_=
Queues are always filled to the top. And when they open, it's a matter of seconds before they are filled again, mostly by other BNs and Elite Mappers having priority over newcomers.