rude. why don't you go ahead and become a BN, we can totally learn from youAiceo wrote:
Sick quality standards from the bns lol, just approves the fact that bns don't know shit.
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DragonForce - My Spirit Will Go On
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glad to see more dragonforce maps, but can we tone it the fk down?
05:12:975 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - I think a issue that its simply too hard, i'm not sure of many people who can read these sort of streams. its way too hard, its just unnecessarily difficult.
05:29:700 (7,8,9,10,11) - I feel these random spikes disrupt flow greatly. Its just my thought, I know maps like freedom dive has spikes in streams but in the end when its the really spaced streams, there are no difficult spikes because it would obviously throw the user right off.
inb4 dq but why so insanely difficult
05:12:975 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - I think a issue that its simply too hard, i'm not sure of many people who can read these sort of streams. its way too hard, its just unnecessarily difficult.
05:29:700 (7,8,9,10,11) - I feel these random spikes disrupt flow greatly. Its just my thought, I know maps like freedom dive has spikes in streams but in the end when its the really spaced streams, there are no difficult spikes because it would obviously throw the user right off.
inb4 dq but why so insanely difficult
Priti wrote:
04:54:432 - The song goes back to 200bpm here.
Topic Starter
If it's too difficult for you, move on to easier maps. Simple as that, you aren't good enough for this.Makan1 wrote:
glad to see more dragonforce maps, but can we tone it the fk down?
05:12:975 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - I think a issue that its simply too hard, i'm not sure of many people who can read these sort of streams. its way too hard, its just unnecessarily difficult.
05:29:700 (7,8,9,10,11) - I feel these random spikes disrupt flow greatly. Its just my thought, I know maps like freedom dive has spikes in streams but in the end when its the really spaced streams, there are no difficult spikes because it would obviously throw the user right off.
inb4 dq but why so insanely difficult
So i can make a 10 star map and justify it with saying "In two years somebody will pass it?DoKito wrote:
If it's too difficult for you, move on to easier maps. Simple as that, you aren't good enough for this.
or not?
I agree maps that are simply not possible shouldn't be ranked, but top players like Rafis have already shown (to my disbelief) that most of this map is FCable in one go. So difficulty wise I think it's fine.
Topic Starter
God, srsly. Why do I always have to justify every map i make? Can't new players just move on and ignore maps like this? I am not aiming to map for new players like you, I want to make challenging maps.TheLukay wrote:
So i can make a 10 star map and justify it with saying "In two years somebody will pass it?DoKito wrote:
If it's too difficult for you, move on to easier maps. Simple as that, you aren't good enough for this.
or not?
Ok I think it's enough for now.
The map has been approved so QAT will review the beatmap pretty soon.
You guys are allowed to discuss about some patterns until the verdict but it shouldn't be in an aggressive way.
I really hope it won't happen again or we'll have to take actions against some users.
The map has been approved so QAT will review the beatmap pretty soon.
You guys are allowed to discuss about some patterns until the verdict but it shouldn't be in an aggressive way.
I really hope it won't happen again or we'll have to take actions against some users.
Disqualification Notice
Hello!
Unfortunately, the Quality Assurance Team has decided to disqualify this beatmap. The following is a list of reasons and examples for the disqualification. We do not outline every issue in detail, so make sure to take the idea behind each reason and apply it to the entire beatmap as issues might be found in more than the spots mentioned below. If you have any questions, please reply to this post and we will do our best to clarify any misunderstandings.
- (C) - Gameplay Issues
- Wrong Timing. We figured out, that this timing will work better. Please replace it with the following (red lines):155,300,4,1,1,75,1,0
260555,352.941176470588,4,1,0,65,1,0
294437,300,4,1,0,65,1,0
462437,342.857142857143,4,1,0,65,1,0
465179,600,4,1,0,65,1,0
465779,571.428571428571,4,1,0,65,1,0
466350,480,4,1,0,65,1,0
466470,461.538461538462,4,1,0,65,1,0
466702,631.578947368421,4,1,0,65,1,0
467333,461.538461538462,4,1,0,65,1,0
467794,571.428571428571,4,1,0,65,1,0
468079,631.578947368421,4,1,0,65,1,0
468394,845.070422535211,4,1,0,65,1,0
469239,444.444444444444,4,1,0,65,1,0 - (M) - Mapping Quality
- Bad flow because of largely spaced streams with questionable movement. Generally speaking, we think that the largely spaced streams are weird to follow.
05:12:450 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - This stream flows really bad, as it contains way too complicated movements. We'd like you to redo this stream, while keeping in mind that flow is really important in order to make this part as enjoyable as possible.
05:26:850 (1) - Same goes for this part.
- 06:28:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - There is nothing in the music that supports this stream. Please remove it and map it according to the song.
06:54:900 (8,9,10,11,12) - Same as above, although you can hear beats in this part, this completely breaks the rhythm. Please go for something more consistent instead.
Keep in mind that these are just examples. Go through the map again, and see if every rhythm fits properly. (05:54:900 (6) - also, this clap appears really random)
If you happen to have concerns about this disqualification, you can contest the decision with this form. Before using this form, please read the instructions carefully.
The Beatmap Nominators will handle this mapset after the issues have been addressed.
Good luck and thank you for contributing to the osu! community with your efforts!
###CM
uh that was pretty short
For what I gathered from recent unranks, the QAT now gives a few examples rather than a big wal of suggestions - anyhow, if wanted, I could probably how this a full mod in the future.
Short because apparently QAT finally learnt 2 play.
This must be Ranked, hard as it is.
This must be Ranked, hard as it is.
pls stop mapping DF,,,
PLS!!!
;___;
PLS!!!
;___;
Topic Starter
I really never expected so many people to hate me because i mapped a DF song somehow different. I mean it is totally cool, if you guys don't like such a mapping style, but hating it in such a degree? I know that I am not the best mapper, but I gained quite some experience after mapping for almost 5 years. Therefore i did NEVER EVER expect this map to turn out this shitty. It took me quite some time to map this piece of s, but it took me even more time to search for so many mods and opinions. So much effort trying to get this ranked, but well. It wasn't anything near worth the time.
Mapping is still a very fun activity for me, but to be honest, I don't want to have to deal with anyone of you. The mapping community just gets more and more disgusting. People, who have nearly 0 experience in mapping and/or playing - probably only parotting other people's opinion without any clue - tell me it sucks. I know that you can have your own opinion about things like that, even though you cannot do it any better - same concept with cooking; you don't have to be a chef to find some meals/food disgusting, but if you can only smell the food and are way too stupid to put it in your mouth because your parents never taught you because you are actually adopted and they never really loved you, you are clearly not in the position to judge the whole thing (just a metaphor, so no offense). I actually appreciate opinions from people like Jenny, who at least put effort in explaining WHY they dislike this map, but 95% is just "meh, too difficult, spaced streams stoopid, this no good DF map cause it different".
I learned a bunch of stuff for future mapping at least, but since i REALLY don't want to have to deal with this League of Legends-like community, I will just stick to my old habits and keep on graveyard-mapping, including this map. Since the timing issue isn't a totally unplayable thing, I will just leave it as it is and get this graveyarded as fast as possible. I am sorry for the people, who put effort in modding and helping me out for nothing, but on the other side i really appreciate it, since it somehow changed the way I map.
I can imagine some of you are partying hard right now, but I also think some of you are pissed off with me for giving this up, since a few of you actually enjoyed this map, so... Sorry for that.
Anyways, wishing you all a good and nice thursday.
Peace out.
Mapping is still a very fun activity for me, but to be honest, I don't want to have to deal with anyone of you. The mapping community just gets more and more disgusting. People, who have nearly 0 experience in mapping and/or playing - probably only parotting other people's opinion without any clue - tell me it sucks. I know that you can have your own opinion about things like that, even though you cannot do it any better - same concept with cooking; you don't have to be a chef to find some meals/food disgusting, but if you can only smell the food and are way too stupid to put it in your mouth because your parents never taught you because you are actually adopted and they never really loved you, you are clearly not in the position to judge the whole thing (just a metaphor, so no offense). I actually appreciate opinions from people like Jenny, who at least put effort in explaining WHY they dislike this map, but 95% is just "meh, too difficult, spaced streams stoopid, this no good DF map cause it different".
I learned a bunch of stuff for future mapping at least, but since i REALLY don't want to have to deal with this League of Legends-like community, I will just stick to my old habits and keep on graveyard-mapping, including this map. Since the timing issue isn't a totally unplayable thing, I will just leave it as it is and get this graveyarded as fast as possible. I am sorry for the people, who put effort in modding and helping me out for nothing, but on the other side i really appreciate it, since it somehow changed the way I map.
I can imagine some of you are partying hard right now, but I also think some of you are pissed off with me for giving this up, since a few of you actually enjoyed this map, so... Sorry for that.
Anyways, wishing you all a good and nice thursday.
Peace out.
And here i was looking into the thread to see some news about how the map progresses because there was no update for so long and then i have to read this. That is sad!
I do not have any experience in mapping nor palying but i kinda liked playing the map with NoFail or seeing better players playing it. It would have been nice to see this ranked. Whatsoever i do not think your map is bad especially! because it was not on the standards Df maps.
I do not have any experience in mapping nor palying but i kinda liked playing the map with NoFail or seeing better players playing it. It would have been nice to see this ranked. Whatsoever i do not think your map is bad especially! because it was not on the standards Df maps.
Sad to see this not get ranked. Fun map & although it rekt me I would love to see what the top players can do on this map.
finally graveyard 
so sad to know this..
so sad to know this..bye my fav. warmup map
I really never expected so many people to hate me because i mapped a DF song somehow different. I mean it is totally cool, if you guys don't like such a mapping style, but hating it in such a degree? I know that I am not the best mapper, but I gained quite some experience after mapping for almost 5 years. Therefore i did NEVER EVER expect this map to turn out this shitty. It took me quite some time to map this piece of s, but it took me even more time to search for so many mods and opinions. So much effort trying to get this ranked, but well. It wasn't anything near worth the time.You can't just forget this map,other mappers who have this situations are fixing their mistakes,for example on xi - Blue Zenith,QAT Members and fartownik fond their mistakes on 3 Diffs and Asphixia trusted to fix them,this is good when you fixing your map,especially when you taking care of it,but you just gave uped,you can't lose like that,this map Should be ranked or even Approved,imagine people will hyping in you if you will take all strengths to manage your dream,and keep in mind this is Dragonforce,Jenny and Lesjuh worked so hard to make this dream to map Dragonforce,and they took IN GENERAL ~5-6 minutes.
Mapping is still a very fun activity for me, but to be honest, I don't want to have to deal with anyone of you. The mapping community just gets more and more disgusting. People, who have nearly 0 experience in mapping and/or playing - probably only parotting other people's opinion without any clue - tell me it sucks. I know that you can have your own opinion about things like that, even though you cannot do it any better - same concept with cooking; you don't have to be a chef to find some meals/food disgusting, but if you can only smell the food and are way too stupid to put it in your mouth because your parents never taught you because you are actually adopted and they never really loved you, you are clearly not in the position to judge the whole thing (just a metaphor, so no offense). I actually appreciate opinions from people like Jenny, who at least put effort in explaining WHY they dislike this map, but 95% is just "meh, too difficult, spaced streams stoopid, this no good DF map cause it different".
I learned a bunch of stuff for future mapping at least, but since i REALLY don't want to have to deal with this League of Legends-like community, I will just stick to my old habits and keep on graveyard-mapping, including this map. Since the timing issue isn't a totally unplayable thing, I will just leave it as it is and get this graveyarded as fast as possible. I am sorry for the people, who put effort in modding and helping me out for nothing, but on the other side i really appreciate it, since it somehow changed the way I map.
I can imagine some of you are partying hard right now, but I also think some of you are pissed off with me for giving this up, since a few of you actually enjoyed this map, so... Sorry for that.
Anyways, wishing you all a good and nice thursday.
Peace out.
Just never give up and do it,before you will sick of your mapping skills.
I'm counting on you DoKito!
And again...Never Give Up!
Good Luck!
Nelly
Artorias_DELETED
Topic Starter
Uhh. This again? Seriously? I will just ignore posts from people like you in the future. Makes life easier.Artorias wrote:
Seriously though those spaced streams need to get better.. at everything.
Guess ill say the same thing here
My only wish is for people to be civilized about this now, im tired of seeing personal attacks and the outright toxic behaviour this map seems to have spawned.
Regardless, good luck
My only wish is for people to be civilized about this now, im tired of seeing personal attacks and the outright toxic behaviour this map seems to have spawned.
Regardless, good luck
Lets go, I'm rooting for ya \:D/
People seriously need to shut the f** up about spaced streams. The map "xi - Blue Zenith" has them and no one gave a crap about it. Good luck ranking this man.
might reconsider the weird streamprogression on some of the spaced streams later on, idk if you changed that because i dont have time to check right now but those things were stupidly hard to play, spacing itself is totally fine for a map like this.
gl on approval.
gl on approval.
good luck tho in ranking \:D/
Lolzy
The problem weren't the spaced streams, these streamshapes made the streams very unenjoyable. The spacing is pretty fine.
Topic Starter
The first stream shapes were very enjoyable in my opinion... Then i had to change them and disliked them myself. But now I'm happy with them again, even though the stream shapes are made as simple as possible. There is just no variety, if you cannot make sharp turns or whatsoever. Streaming in circles and round shapes is just plain boring imo. (I also was a big fan of Genryuu Kaiko before all these changes to the streams happened. I wish i still would have the old version q.q).XiiD wrote:
The problem weren't the spaced streams, these streamshapes made the streams very unenjoyable. The spacing is pretty fine.
Can't judge it by now because of vacation. But is it possible that the star rating went up much higher? Excited to look at this map again though, would love to see it ranked and be able to play it properly, lol.
glhf fighting against the QATs. c:
Edit: Also, didn't the shapes change the shapes like every 3-5 circles before you changed it? Can't remember it properly, but if I'm not mistaken it was quite hard to read sometimes. Whatever, will see it when I'm back.
glhf fighting against the QATs. c:
Edit: Also, didn't the shapes change the shapes like every 3-5 circles before you changed it? Can't remember it properly, but if I'm not mistaken it was quite hard to read sometimes. Whatever, will see it when I'm back.
yupAnxient wrote:
good luck tho in ranking \:D/
The spaced streams in the first qualified version of the map were great in my opinion.
Artorias_DELETED
DoKito wrote:
Uhh. This again? Seriously? I will just ignore posts from people like you in the future. Makes life easier.Artorias wrote:
Seriously though those spaced streams need to get better.. at everything.
I like how you ignore everything you choose and just focus on the one negative thing i said in my comment. Stop playing the victim, i was just pointing out the biggest issue i had with the map. jeez.
I have the "Legend" version stillDoKito wrote:
The first stream shapes were very enjoyable in my opinion... Then i had to change them and disliked them myself. But now I'm happy with them again, even though the stream shapes are made as simple as possible. There is just no variety, if you cannot make sharp turns or whatsoever. Streaming in circles and round shapes is just plain boring imo. (I also was a big fan of Genryuu Kaiko before all these changes to the streams happened. I wish i still would have the old version q.q).XiiD wrote:
The problem weren't the spaced streams, these streamshapes made the streams very unenjoyable. The spacing is pretty fine.
Why are there people with 30k rank even attempting this map ? It's ridiculous, like what do you expect ?