FINALLY! THIS SHIT MAP GOT REFINED MORE!
_Gezo_ wrote:
weff
[Muzu]
00:28:740 (1) - baka spinner it's weird to start it after the note :C moved back to note (rip note it was best note)
00:39:203 (17,18,19,20) - that rhythm feels a bit weird because the song has the note at 00:39:295 - instead of 00:39:203 (17) - . (however moving the note will make it more complicated so...) did stuff, is doublet now
01:46:795 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - FOR SOME REASON I don't know but it feels way off, moving them 1/8 forward would fix it :c yeah it sounds off but idk if it would be good to use that offset :C
[Oni]
spinner thing but less awwkward keeping it as it is so I've got the drums 100% and also the long sound
end somehow sounds right here idk why :C baka :C
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Title:Proluvies
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Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Priti
Version:Nwolf's Oni
Source:REFLEC BEAT groovin'!!
Tags:Drumstep Electronic Masaya Oya 大箭マサヤ Cametek Dubstep Bonzi Leader Nwolf Irreversible
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pls rank_Gezo_ wrote:
u brok mi bebel fegid :C
handsome wrote:
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thanks :3OnosakiHito wrote:
Additional to this something about the Taikos:
Muzukashii
Not exactly sure about the ox patterns. They might be okay at some places, but others like 00:41:144 where they are bounded together with tripplets it's becoming hard. Should be reconsidered again! Removed them 01:20:496 (50,51,52,53) - here, keeping them in other spots to keep difficulty a little bit consistent with kiai.
Some patterns are way too quiet. For example 00:25:866 - . Should be rised a little. done
01:11:329 - Not sure what you tried to acchieve here by having only -2% volume. In my opinon redundant. Changed to 3% difference. It's the minor stuff that matters :3
Considering how the song is build up, I believe the Muzu is fine. Removing notes could lead to heavier pattern restruction or making certain patterns sound weird, so I will keep distance of this. It's fine as it is.
Oni
Good map, but I'm pretty sure the SV changes could be refinined at certain places since it is hard to distinguise when to hit certain notes:
01:09:385 (9,10,11,12,13) - changed
01:15:311 (32,33,34,35) - that's a 0.01 difference on 1/1 o.o
Yeah, sorry for not giving more specific examples for this. Kinda exhausted here due to work. lol
Same like in Muzu about quiet sounds. 00:25:866 - This is too quiet, even though the intention is clear. But it missleads you when playing since you rather have to follow the visual aspect to hit them properly instead of sound aspect which in taiko is important. Changed here (a bit different in Oni due to there being way more notes, SV, stuff like that.
00:59:755 - ^ no to this, it's 4/1, it should be okay.
When it's about volume, you can say in general that all patterns should be much louder. The song itself (or rather the mp3) is pretty loud, and at some places, even 80% is still lacking of power, like ni kiai. Song is overlapping hitsoundings pretty often in a game, which is normaly known for its powerful hitsounds. Well, if you dislike rising it up to 80~100%, you should at least rise it up in general a bit more. raised kiai and a few other spots.
Overall good job. Enjoyed the diffs.
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This guy. AhahahaNwolf wrote:
01:11:329 - Not sure what you tried to acchieve here by having only -2% volume. In my opinon redundant. Changed to 3% difference. It's the minor stuff that matters :3
15:33 Priti: Proluvies
15:33 -kevincela-: oh
15:33 -kevincela-: k
15:37 -kevincela-: 00:46:052 - i'd add a note here, you're skipping an important drum which you previously followed
15:39 Priti: The drum is on 3/4
15:39 -kevincela-: oh yeah you're right
15:40 -kevincela-: sorry, today i'm too tired lol
15:40 Priti: Fucking nerd
15:40 -kevincela-: <3
15:40 Priti: <3 d---OwO
15:40 Priti: That's me punching your heart
15:40 Priti: nerd.
15:41 -kevincela-: well if that's the case i'd suggest you to remove 01:12:718 (5) - since there is no beat to emphatize
15:41 -kevincela-: it sounds better without the note there tbh
15:42 Priti: that was experimental
15:42 Priti: lol
15:42 Priti: fixed
15:43 -kevincela-: 01:15:311 (3) - you could extend this slider till 01:15:959 - since here's when the drum pattern ends
15:43 Priti: done
15:48 -kevincela-: 01:39:755 - you could try [http://puu.sh/hXxf0/30f3aab4f4.jpg this], it follows quite well the synth there compared to a simple 2/1 pattern
15:49 Priti: fixed
15:49 -kevincela-: 00:25:496 (3) - new combo?
15:50 Priti: done
15:51 -kevincela-: 01:21:237 - (just a personal preference, ignore if you want) a note wouldn't be bad there, it isn't so soon after the spinner and it emphatizes the change between the drums and the synth part
15:52 -kevincela-: this is really minor though
15:52 Priti: Unrankable
15:52 Priti: lol
15:52 -kevincela-: what
15:52 -kevincela-: is it unrankable now? o.O
15:53 Priti: yes
15:53 Priti: u need
15:53 -kevincela-: man i should probably review the ranking criteria now then
15:53 Priti: 4/1 on easy
15:53 Priti: 2/1 on normal
15:53 -kevincela-: ...
15:53 -kevincela-: that's stupid
15:53 Priti: 1/1 on hard
15:53 Priti: 1/2 on insane
15:53 Priti: 1/4 on extra
15:53 Priti: ikr lol
15:53 -kevincela-: 4/1 on easy diffs
15:53 -kevincela-: is really too much
15:54 -kevincela-: i used to have notes always 2/1 after spinners in easy diffs ._.
15:54 -kevincela-: well then if that's the case that should be everything
15:54 Priti: ye
15:54 -kevincela-: nice easy diff
15:55 Priti: post pls
15:55 -kevincela-: ok
06:33 Priti: u
06:34 Lanturn: mi
06:34 Priti: madonna
06:34 *Priti is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/704049 Camellia - Proluvies [Easy]]
06:34 Priti: mod this diff ploxploxplox
06:37 Lanturn: now matter how you look at it 00:24:015 (2) - is too close. Judgement will really get f'd up by new players, especially at .5x. then it just escalates the problem when you play this immediately after: 00:25:496 (3,4,5) -
06:38 Lanturn: just move it a bit further away
06:38 Priti: I found a mediocre solution
06:38 Priti: 0.75
06:38 Priti: :3
06:38 Lanturn: yeah
06:38 Lanturn: also eh. NC 00:25:496 (3) -
06:39 Priti: done
06:42 Priti: anything else?
06:42 Priti: 01:12:718 - removed alr
06:42 Lanturn: that works
06:43 Lanturn: 00:37:163 - remove this, or rework around it. It's just to awkward to hit. It's hard to judge with all the sounds
06:44 Lanturn: too even
06:44 Priti: done
06:44 Lanturn: i was trying to play with it but it just ends up overall better removed
06:45 Lanturn: probably same with 00:49:015 (4) -
06:45 Priti: that one's straight up 1/2
06:45 Priti: nvm red tick is stronger you're right
06:46 Lanturn: I wonder if 00:54:015 (3) - would play better back 1/4
06:46 Lanturn: lemme test
06:47 Priti: ew no
06:47 Lanturn: It just focuses on the same instrument, but either should work I guess
06:48 Priti: Charles polarity theory thing
06:48 Lanturn: it would technically be that anyways because of the reverses carrying the beat
06:50 Lanturn: such a strange song. lol
06:50 Priti: ikr
06:50 Lanturn: Like 01:34:200 (1) - is supposed to be 1/4 earlier but whatever
06:50 Lanturn: on the tail
06:51 Priti: yea
06:51 Priti: that type of stuff is fine
06:51 Priti: since the whole kiai
06:51 Priti: has strange sounds
06:51 Lanturn: yeah I don't have much to say about the kiai
06:51 Lanturn: it plays well
06:55 Lanturn: last suggestion: 00:51:144 (4) - end this at 00:51:607 - for better emphasis on the music
06:56 Lanturn: It's still really easy to adjust back into the beat after because 2/1 and you used it previously on 00:48:088 (3) - since you removed the (4)
06:56 Priti: done
06:56 Priti: post pls
06:56 Lanturn: alright
Thanks for the detailed mod Tess~Tess wrote:
Irre asked me to mod his diff so I decided to mod Priti and Bonzi's diffs tooUltra Rhythms & PatternsThe issues in this map don't seem to change, it doesn't seem to get better or worse either, they just keep repeating themselves in different shapes and forms. This map lacks a lot of consistency and doesn't match the song all too well, and honestly those "hanzer doubles" just don't work in the contexts you're trying to apply them to. Save those for double-stacks, where they belong. Don't replace any old triple with them because it doesn't work. Hanzer made it work because of the context wherein they were placed, and this is really crucial but many mappers just seem to ignore it. On top of that, the random switching between jerky and flowy movement (although in principle it does apply to wubs but it's just been used in a backwards fashion in this map) doesn't match the song. I'd say this map needs a lot of work before it could be deemed to be a quality map. The rest in the set need some work too but they're passable.
- 00:15:681 (1,2) - You are NOT HanzeR. The lack of context for this pattern makes it really awkward to play. You start with a circular flowy movement and suddenly switch to a jerky motion - this part in the music isn't jerky, it's a stop motion musical pattern. I highly suggest you at the very least lower those stacks to match the momentum you created with previous sliders like this but I honestly think it'd be better to seriously rework this pattern into something more fitting. fixed
- 00:26:144 (8,1) - This isn't really how you map streamjumps. Streamjumps by themselves are meant to represent a change in the direction of the stream in the music without changing the spacing within the stream - the reason you have for using a streamjump there is fine. The only problem is that you place a HUGE gap between the streams while there was only a tiny accentuation change in the music. And on top of that huge gap, you jump in a counteractive direction from the one the ensuing stream is going into, and place such a sharp snap with the cursor at an awkward weak motion angle from the previous stream. And you do that repeatedly - this doesn't add to difficulty, it only adds to annoyance, and makes your map unenjoyable to play. Considering the low spacing in the streams themselves, the snaps to every new combo aren't that terrible. Also, the BPM isn't crazy high so it plays well.
I highly suggest you decrease the spacing between the jumps (making the sv 1.5x so that it looks like 1.0x spacing really doesn't change anything) and/or at the very least make the angles less awkward. This isn't how you map high difficulty, this is just how you bump up the star rating without adding any enjoyability to the map. The amount of strain put in 1/4 space just for the player to stay on rhythm because the mapper decided to get funky with spacing is really unnecessary here, especially if you want this ranked.- 00:27:811 (3,1,1) - Okay the pressure switch here does fit the music but the amount of spacing used compared to the previous streams (Especially considering the size of the streamjumps themselves) is way too ridiculous. Or rather, not too ridiculous, but it's too sudden, and uncalled for (in such a huge amount). And even still, I'd be okay with such a jump if it wasn't for this 00:27:811 (3,1) - . You make a really subtle, somewhat awkward weak motion leap towards a 1.5x sv slider and follow it up with a 3.28x jump. This still falls in line with my comment on your streamjumps but it only goes to show why it's so important you do them well lol. Unless of course you don't care about how your map plays. made it sicker
- 00:41:699 (4,1) - This is just begging for sliderbreaks fixed?
- 00:42:163 (1) - Ending a slider on a strong beat (especially a beat as strong as this) at 0.5x sv is really the least logical thing to do here. It only makes it look like you were running out of space for aesthetics so you just did something that looks alright. It doesn't match your previous momentum at all, I suggest you at the very least start the slider on a white tick in this instance, and perhaps then you might find reasons not to lower the sv. fixed
- 00:42:533 (2,1) - This is really counterintuitive, you switch from 0.5x to 1.5x sv on a stop motion sound by using weak motion, and the sudden (and seemingly random?) translation from weak into strong motion doesn't match your map's previous direction at all. I already suggested what to do in the previous suggestion, but I really think you should try maintaining a balance within your patterns that matches the song, not just something that matches the rhythm and looks good. It has to play good too. It's naturally fixed because I fixed the previous point.
- 00:43:089 (1,2) - And right after such a strange strong-weak motion switch you suddenly switch to stop motion for a 1/3 pattern ._. it's really starting to look like you cared more about aesthetics than about playability, similar to Bonzi's diff. By making a simple adjustment such as this you can continue with your old flow without making the map a pain in the ass to play. Old version of the map was exactly like that, fixed.
- 00:45:681 (1,2,3,1) - Okay I think you know why I'm mentioning this pattern. Even for anyone that can play it perfectly this can not be enjoyable. That's because you're directly going against the momentum you created yourself, which only serves to confuse the player. Be consistent, save jerky patterns for jerky sounds, don't just spam them wherever they fit on the playfield and within the song's rhythm. fixed
- 00:51:607 (1,2) - You are NOT H- fixed
Just my opinion, good luck getting this ranked.
i laughed way too muchTess wrote:
You are NOT HanzeR.
KwaN: fixed all except the last suggestion because it's perfectly readable.Tess wrote:
[/notice]Irre's Insane Rhythms & Patterns
Unused greenlinesidk but these didn't really seem to have any purpose in the map, best to remove them for cleanliness if you're not using them. done
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- 00:16:606 (5,6) - To further accentuate this, try making these two into a slider angled downwards, kinda like this good idea
- 00:37:533 (1) - Place this slightly closer to 00:37:163 (1,2) - if you want it to look perfectly even yea
- 00:57:903 (1) - Why not remove the reverse and add a circle on x481 y267 for further emphasizing the end of this section? i think a reverse emphasizes this part better
- 01:04:200 - Why not add a spinner here? well a spinner should emphasize something really powerful, yet there's nothing powerful to be found.. please also use this explanation for downbelow.
- 01:16:237 (1) - This just feels lazy to me, why would you replace the entire buildup with a spinner? I think you'd be better off adding a cool buildup section here as this part is really emphasized by the scream, i tried doing something new with a spinner. you actually should spin as fast as you can (and it even fits the mood of the song)
- 01:30:403 (6) - This looks sloppy, try placing it at x19 y241 or stacking it on top of 01:30:496 (1) - instead (I'm not sure about stacking but that'd at least make it consistent with the rest of the kiai) yea
- 01:33:644 (1) - Ctrl + G? no, because the stopping movement is done on purpose here.
- 01:43:459 (2) - ^ yea