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Oh Be Clever - Next To You (Elephante Remix) [CatchTheBeat]

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WildOne94
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 26 March 2015 at 05:24:31

Artist: Oh Be Clever
Title: Next To You (Elephante Remix)
BPM: 125
Filesize: 7246kb
Play Time: 05:08
Difficulties Available:
  1. Cup (1.1 stars, 443 notes)
  2. Rain (3.59 stars, 799 notes)
  3. Salad (1.99 stars, 607 notes)
Download: Oh Be Clever - Next To You (Elephante Remix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Cup - 100%
Salad - 100%
Rain - 100%

This took me ages .w.

Going for ranking
Awaiting modders now. (if people are brave enough to do a 5 min map with 3 diffs)
JBHyperion
I was holding off until some more diffs were completed and now that we've got two, might as well mod what's been done so far to get the ball rolling (:

General comments:
  1. Consider changing the offset to 1991ms. There's a section in the Salad that highlighted this for me (see below), where I was almost convinced there were 1/16th notes o_O
  2. You have a couple of extra images in your song folder and I'm not sure what these are for. Are you planning to make a SB?
  3. The bitrate of your mp3 is 160kbps. Here is a 192kbps version.
  4. I know you always do tags last so just a comment to future modders.
Cup
00:16:367 - There are some strong beats between here and 00:17:327 that aren't mapped. Considering the difficulty, you wouldn't want to place object for all of them, so I would put circles at 00:16:487 and 00:17:087 located at [x-88] and [x-208] respectively, moving the circle at 00:16:847 to [x-160] to create an even spacing.

00:43:967 (2) - I don't think the note in the bg music here is strong enough to stand on it's own, so consider removing this and making 00:43:727 (1) a 1/1 slider or 1/2 slider repeating once, ending at 00:44:207 (3)

01:08:687 (1) - Make this a 1/1 slider repeating once for the kick drum backbeat.

01:58:847 (2) - Remove the whistle here, as this 1/2 note doesn't need the emphasis and you already have a whistle on the white tick at 01:59:087 (3)

02:07:727 (3) - Place a circle here at [x-408] for the strong beat.

02:19:247 (4) - Place a 3/8 slider here from [x-112 to x-60] for the strong beat leading into the kiai chorus, making it the new first note of the NC at 02:19:727 (2)

03:05:807 (1) - Add a clap here to go with the clap in the bg music.

03:31:487 (2) - Add a note here at [x-192], both to go with the beat in the bg music, and to be consistent with the previous and next combos.

03:31:967 (4) - As above, place at [x-304].

03:42:047 (2) - The beat in the bg music here is more "passive", and doesn't justify it's own hitcircle imo. Consider removing this note and making 03:41:807 (1) a 1/2 slider ending at the same point.
03:59:327 (3) - ^
04:11:327 (6) - ^

04:20:447 (2) - Remove clap here, I don't think this 1/2 note needs the emphasis considering there is a clap on the next note at 04:20:687 (3) which is on a white tick.

04:35:807 (2) - As at 03:42:047 (2)
04:37:727 (6) - ^
04:39:647 (3) - ^

04:44:927 (3) - Remove this note, it's passive compared to the surrounding notes in the bg music, which have no special emphasis themselves.

04:47:327 (7) - As above, OR alternatively, remove the whistle here, and add it to 04:45:167 (4) to replicate the pattern.
04:51:167 (5) - ^

Salad
00:05:087 (1) - Don't think this beat is strong enough to justify the clap.

00:16:607 (3) - There is a strong beat at 00:16:727 which is unmapped, so I would move this note here.

00:26:567 (2) - The 1/4 note in the triplet seems out of place here given that you've not used 1/4 notes in the same way in previous combos in this part of the song. Considering the difficulty, I don't think it's necessary.
00:53:687 (6) - As above.

01:01:631 (1) - This section seemed very odd to me. At first I though there were some misplaced notes, then I though the emphasis was wrong, then I realised the offset was ever so slightly out. I played around with this section a bit and ended up with something that looks a bit like this:



Whilst this pattern is definitely overmapped for a Salad, it might come in handy later if you do a Platter/Rain. My reasoning is as follows:
  1. Single notes (2,3,6,7,8 and 9) and slider starts (1, 4, and 5) for strong beats
  2. Slider ends (1, 4 and 5) for weaker beats
  3. Gap at 01:01:727, the 2nd note in the original combo, note removed as I couldn't hear a beat here.
Therefore, feel free to skip some of the notes for this diff (I would recommend the single notes on blue ticks could go), or copy some of the patterns you use in other fills at 02:49:031 and/or 04:21:191, make this a spinner like at 04:05:831 or even a short break like at 02:18:551 and maybe use the full pattern later.

01:22:511 (4) - As 00:26:567 (2)

02:02:231 (5) - Remove the whistle on the 1/2 note here, it sounds fine just having it on the white tick at 02:02:471 (6)

03:05:831 (1) - Add a clap here to go with the clap in the bg music.

03:36:791 - Any reason why you decided not to map the drum fill here, like you did at 01:01:631?

Hopefully some of my ramblings make sense to you, but if they don't feel free to shoot me a pm and we can discuss further. Best of luck! (:
Topic Starter
WildOne94

JBHyperion wrote:

I was holding off until some more diffs were completed and now that we've got two, might as well mod what's been done so far to get the ball rolling (:

General comments:
  1. Consider changing the offset to 1991ms. There's a section in the Salad that highlighted this for me (see below), where I was almost convinced there were 1/16th notes o_O - it seems fine to me :O!
  2. You have a couple of extra images in your song folder and I'm not sure what these are for. Are you planning to make a SB? - Yesh i am :D (hopefully)
  3. The bitrate of your mp3 is 160kbps. Here is a 192kbps version. - thanks but i think it will be fine as it is >w< (plus effort XD)
  4. I know you always do tags last so just a comment to future modders. - Yup yup :3
Cup
00:16:367 - There are some strong beats between here and 00:17:327 that aren't mapped. Considering the difficulty, you wouldn't want to place object for all of them, so I would put circles at 00:16:487 - Not really allowed ;w; and 00:17:087 located at [x-88] and [x-208] respectively, moving the circle at 00:16:847 to [x-160] to create an even spacing. - added but not used the positioning

00:43:967 (2) - I don't think the note in the bg music here is strong enough to stand on it's own, so consider removing this and making 00:43:727 (1) a 1/1 slider or 1/2 slider repeating once, ending at 00:44:207 (3) - Just removed the note instead :3. Too many slider around that point otherwise

01:08:687 (1) - Make this a 1/1 slider repeating once for the kick drum backbeat. - changed

01:58:847 (2) - Remove the whistle here, as this 1/2 note doesn't need the emphasis and you already have a whistle on the white tick at 01:59:087 (3) - removed

02:07:727 (3) - Place a circle here at [x-408] for the strong beat. - removed the reverse from 02:07:007 (2) - and then included your circle :3

02:19:247 (4) - Place a 3/8 slider here from [x-112 to x-60] for the strong beat leading into the kiai chorus, making it the new first note of the NC at 02:19:727 (2) - cool idea

03:05:807 (1) - Add a clap here to go with the clap in the bg music. - Kinda like it without >w<

03:31:487 (2) - Add a note here at [x-192], both to go with the beat in the bg music, and to be consistent with the previous and next combos. - added

03:31:967 (4) - As above, place at [x-304]. - added

03:42:047 (2) - The beat in the bg music here is more "passive", and doesn't justify it's own hitcircle imo. Consider removing this note and making 03:41:807 (1) a 1/2 slider ending at the same point. - Just removed instead :3
03:59:327 (3) - ^ - although you are right i just some how feel it build up to that next slider
04:11:327 (6) - ^ - removed

04:20:447 (2) - Remove clap here, I don't think this 1/2 note needs the emphasis considering there is a clap on the next note at 04:20:687 (3) which is on a white tick. - removed

04:35:807 (2) - As at 03:42:047 (2) - actually this note goes with the little "Uh huh uh uh!" singing noises XD
04:37:727 (6) - ^ - ^
04:39:647 (3) - ^ - ^

04:44:927 (3) - Remove this note, it's passive compared to the surrounding notes in the bg music, which have no special emphasis themselves. - I think i might have removed this one before looking at your mod :3 cause i can't see it now

04:47:327 (7) - As above, OR alternatively, remove the whistle here, and add it to 04:45:167 (4) to replicate the pattern. - I just removed the hitsound
04:51:167 (5) - ^ - removed hitsound

Salad
00:05:087 (1) - Don't think this beat is strong enough to justify the clap. - removed

00:16:607 (3) - There is a strong beat at 00:16:727 which is unmapped, so I would move this note here. - oo good ears! didn't notice that. changed

00:26:567 (2) - The 1/4 note in the triplet seems out of place here given that you've not used 1/4 notes in the same way in previous combos in this part of the song. Considering the difficulty, I don't think it's necessary. - Literally saw that note before reading this suggestion XD. And removed before
00:53:687 (6) - As above. - did not see this one though ouo. Removed

01:01:631 (1) - This section seemed very odd to me. At first I though there were some misplaced notes, then I though the emphasis was wrong, then I realised the offset was ever so slightly out. I played around with this section a bit and ended up with something that looks a bit like this: - changed differently



Whilst this pattern is definitely overmapped for a Salad, it might come in handy later if you do a Platter/Rain. My reasoning is as follows:
  1. Single notes (2,3,6,7,8 and 9) and slider starts (1, 4, and 5) for strong beats
  2. Slider ends (1, 4 and 5) for weaker beats
  3. Gap at 01:01:727, the 2nd note in the original combo, note removed as I couldn't hear a beat here. - yup will keep in mind
Therefore, feel free to skip some of the notes for this diff (I would recommend the single notes on blue ticks could go), or copy some of the patterns you use in other fills at 02:49:031 and/or 04:21:191, make this a spinner like at 04:05:831 or even a short break like at 02:18:551 and maybe use the full pattern later. - i got it >w<

01:22:511 (4) - As 00:26:567 (2) - removed

02:02:231 (5) - Remove the whistle on the 1/2 note here, it sounds fine just having it on the white tick at 02:02:471 (6) - removed

03:05:831 (1) - Add a clap here to go with the clap in the bg music. - i prefer it without again >W<. i could consider adding a timing point here though to lower the clap volume if it's brought up

03:36:791 - Any reason why you decided not to map the drum fill here, like you did at 01:01:631? - added some notes

Hopefully some of my ramblings make sense to you, but if they don't feel free to shoot me a pm and we can discuss further. Best of luck! (: - Thanks buddy :D great mod as always :3
BoberOfDarkness
2nd!

Cup
00:04:847 (1,2) - remove (2) and make (1) 1/1 slider
00:05:567 (3) - this slider ignores important beat and start of this slider sounds weird I suggest you to put note on 00:05:807 - with NC
00:37:247 (2) - again^ just start them on white ticks
00:38:207 (3) - again^ same^
00:46:127 (1) - again^ move to white tick and place note 00:45:887 -
01:05:327 (3) - again^ move to white tick and place note 01:05:087 - but its not necessary
01:14:687 (2) - again^ move to white tick and place note 01:14:687 -
wow, you used more sliders which ignores the important beat ;w;

02:29:807 (4,5) - make (4) 1/2 and place and also place 1/2 slider 02:30:287 - and move 02:30:527 (5) - to white tick because this ignores vocals and beat ;w;
02:31:727 (6) - NC
02:36:287 (2) - use 1/2 slider with reverse arrow

03:33:887 (3,4) - dont stack them

Salad
00:04:367 (4) - NC
00:05:087 (1) - remove NC
00:06:287 (3) - NC
00:07:727 (5) - ^
00:08:927 (1) - delete NC
00:09:647 (3) - NC
00:19:247 (5) - ^
00:20:447 (1) - remove NC
00:21:167 (3) - NC
00:23:087 (7) - ^
00:23:807 (1) -
00:25:007 (5) - NC
00:25:727 (1) - delete NC
00:26:927 (3) - NC
00:30:767 (4) - NC
00:40:367 (6) - NC
00:44:207 (5) - NC
00:45:407 (1) - remove NC
00:49:967 (6) - add NC
00:51:407 (1) - remove NC
00:51:887 (3) - NC
00:53:807 (6) - ^
00:54:767 (1) - delete NC
00:55:727 (4) - NC
01:01:607 (7) - add NC
01:07:247 (6) - add NC
01:07:727 (1) - remove NC
01:09:167 (3) - add NC
01:11:087 (7) - add NC
01:12:047 (1) - remove NC
01:20:687 (5) - add NC
01:22:607 (4) - ^
01:23:327 (1) - remove NC
01:24:527 (5) - NC
01:25:727 (1) - remove NC
01:26:447 (4) - NC
01:28:127 (1) - delete NC
01:28:367 (2) - NC
01:37:967 (2) - NC
01:42:287 (4) - NC
01:46:127 (3) - NC
01:49:487 (5) - NC
01:25:727 (1) - remove NC
01:26:447 (4) - NC
01:53:327 (6) - NC
01:55:247 (4) - NC
02:04:367 (4) - make it 3/4 slider and add note with NC at 02:04:847 -
02:06:527 (1) - remove NC
02:06:767 (2) - add NC
02:08:687 (6) - add NC
02:10:127 (1) - delete NC
02:10:607 (4) - add NC
02:14:447 (6) - add NC
02:15:407 (1) - delete NC
02:16:487 (5) - add NC
02:18:287 (6) - add NC
02:22:127 (5) - add NC
02:23:087 - add note
02:24:047 (3) - add NC
02:25:967 (6) - NC
02:26:927 (1) - delete NC
02:27:887 (2) - NC
02:29:807 (5) - NC
02:31:727 (5) - NC
02:37:487 (5) - NC
02:39:407 (5) - NC
02:40:127 (1) - remove NC
02:41:327 (3) - NC
02:45:167 (3) - NC
02:47:087 (6) - NC
02:48:047 (1) - delete NC
02:49:007 (2) - NC
03:06:287 (2) - NC
03:08:447 (5) - NC
03:21:647 (9) - NC
03:22:367 (1) - delete NC
03:23:567 (4) - NC
03:27:407 (5) - NC
03:29:087 (1) - delete NC
03:29:327 (2) - NC
03:31:247 (7) - NC
03:35:087 (3) - NC
03:37:007 (8) - NC
03:37:727 (1) - delete NC
03:38:927 (4) - NC
03:42:767 (4) - NC
03:46:607 (4) - NC
03:48:047 (1) - delete NC
03:48:527 (2) - NC
03:52:367 (5) - NC
03:53:327 (1) - delete NC
03:54:287 (3) - NC
03:58:127 (6) - NC
04:00:047 (3) - NC
04:01:967 (7) - NC
04:02:927 (1) - delete NC
04:09:647 (5) - NC
04:11:567 (4) - NC
04:15:407 (5) - NC
04:16:607 (1) - delete NC
04:17:327 (4) - NC
04:21:167 (5) - NC
04:25:007 (6) - NC
04:28:847 (6) - NC
04:30:767 (4) - NC
04:35:087 (5) - NC
04:38:447 (5) - NC
04:39:407 (1) - delete NC
04:40:367 (3) - NC
04:44:207 (3) - NC
04:48:047 (5) - NC
04:49:967 (2) - NC
05:01:487 (6) - NC
05:03:407 (3) - NC
Topic Starter
WildOne94

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

2nd!

Cup
00:04:847 (1,2) - remove (2) and make (1) 1/1 slider - fixed
00:05:567 (3) - this slider ignores important beat and start of this slider sounds weird I suggest you to put note on 00:05:807 - with NC -fixed. But why would i need to NC?
00:37:247 (2) - again^ just start them on white ticks - Fixed
00:38:207 (3) - again^ same^ - This one fits with the lyrics
00:46:127 (1) - again^ move to white tick and place note 00:45:887 - ^
01:05:327 (3) - again^ move to white tick and place note 01:05:087 - but its not necessary - ^
01:14:687 (2) - again^ move to white tick and place note 01:14:687 - Fixed
wow, you used more sliders which ignores the important beat ;w; - i think i must have fixed before reading this x3

02:29:807 (4,5) - make (4) 1/2 and place and also place 1/2 slider 02:30:287 - and move 02:30:527 (5) - to white tick because this ignores vocals and beat ;w; - Sorry ;w; Fixed
02:31:727 (6) - NC - added
02:36:287 (2) - use 1/2 slider with reverse arrow - it will be fine >w<

03:33:887 (3,4) - dont stack them - it looks nice though ;w;

Salad
00:04:367 (4) - NC
00:05:087 (1) - remove NC
00:06:287 (3) - NC
00:07:727 (5) - ^
00:08:927 (1) - delete NC
00:09:647 (3) - NC
00:19:247 (5) - ^
00:20:447 (1) - remove NC
00:21:167 (3) - NC
00:23:087 (7) - ^
00:23:807 (1) -
00:25:007 (5) - NC
00:25:727 (1) - delete NC
00:26:927 (3) - NC
00:30:767 (4) - NC
00:40:367 (6) - NC
00:44:207 (5) - NC
00:45:407 (1) - remove NC
00:49:967 (6) - add NC
00:51:407 (1) - remove NC
00:51:887 (3) - NC
00:53:807 (6) - ^
00:54:767 (1) - delete NC
00:55:727 (4) - NC
01:01:607 (7) - add NC
01:07:247 (6) - add NC
01:07:727 (1) - remove NC
01:09:167 (3) - add NC
01:11:087 (7) - add NC
01:12:047 (1) - remove NC
01:20:687 (5) - add NC
01:22:607 (4) - ^
01:23:327 (1) - remove NC
01:24:527 (5) - NC
01:25:727 (1) - remove NC
01:26:447 (4) - NC
01:28:127 (1) - delete NC
01:28:367 (2) - NC
01:37:967 (2) - NC
01:42:287 (4) - NC
01:46:127 (3) - NC
01:49:487 (5) - NC
01:25:727 (1) - remove NC
01:26:447 (4) - NC
01:53:327 (6) - NC
01:55:247 (4) - NC
02:04:367 (4) - make it 3/4 slider and add note with NC at 02:04:847 - this is fine ;w;
02:06:527 (1) - remove NC
02:06:767 (2) - add NC
02:08:687 (6) - add NC
02:10:127 (1) - delete NC
02:10:607 (4) - add NC
02:14:447 (6) - add NC
02:15:407 (1) - delete NC
02:16:487 (5) - add NC
02:18:287 (6) - add NC
02:22:127 (5) - add NC
02:23:087 - add note - moved 02:22:847 (6) - there
02:24:047 (3) - add NC
02:25:967 (6) - NC
02:26:927 (1) - delete NC
02:27:887 (2) - NC
02:29:807 (5) - NC
02:31:727 (5) - NC
02:37:487 (5) - NC
02:39:407 (5) - NC
02:40:127 (1) - remove NC
02:41:327 (3) - NC
02:45:167 (3) - NC
02:47:087 (6) - NC
02:48:047 (1) - delete NC
02:49:007 (2) - NC
03:06:287 (2) - NC
03:08:447 (5) - NC
03:21:647 (9) - NC
03:22:367 (1) - delete NC
03:23:567 (4) - NC
03:27:407 (5) - NC
03:29:087 (1) - delete NC
03:29:327 (2) - NC
03:31:247 (7) - NC
03:35:087 (3) - NC
03:37:007 (8) - NC
03:37:727 (1) - delete NC
03:38:927 (4) - NC
03:42:767 (4) - NC
03:46:607 (4) - NC
03:48:047 (1) - delete NC
03:48:527 (2) - NC
03:52:367 (5) - NC
03:53:327 (1) - delete NC
03:54:287 (3) - NC
03:58:127 (6) - NC
04:00:047 (3) - NC
04:01:967 (7) - NC
04:02:927 (1) - delete NC
04:09:647 (5) - NC
04:11:567 (4) - NC
04:15:407 (5) - NC
04:16:607 (1) - delete NC
04:17:327 (4) - NC
04:21:167 (5) - NC
04:25:007 (6) - NC
04:28:847 (6) - NC
04:30:767 (4) - NC
04:35:087 (5) - NC
04:38:447 (5) - NC
04:39:407 (1) - delete NC
04:40:367 (3) - NC
04:44:207 (3) - NC
04:48:047 (5) - NC
04:49:967 (2) - NC
05:01:487 (6) - NC
05:03:407 (3) - NC
I changed some NC's
Thanks for mod bober owo/
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