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ZHAO YU
真的很不错呢!不错呢!求SA真相!
NOIR-MADLAX
full难度的42:123的SLIDER很不舒服 :?
有些SLIDER尾部的NOTE似乎没重合。。。
ZHAO YU
normal:22:007的note没跟上节奏——22:984的slider没按节奏放——1:11:169的第28个note节奏错了——1:19:406的slider没按节奏
hard我就不多说了……
full的话还好!期待!
加油!
cloness
star~
cloness
slider的話建議用1/2拍做好了 放在藍線上真的不同步的說0.0
DeadAlready
hi >w</

this is nice song so I come XD (?

SPOILER
唔嗯...然後這邊有幾個建議XD

除了上述幾項都有提到的,combo有點長,下的拍子有點不好,儘量不要下在藍線之類的。
因為這首bpm你是double才變173對吧,bpm analyzer應該是測到86.50。
基本上double bpm的歌,非串燒的拍子下在藍線(1/4)之所以會很奇怪,
就是因為double之後原本bpm的1/4拍就變成了1/2拍的紅線。
因此下單拍子在藍線就成了歌原本bpm"比較不會"發生的八分拍,對節奏來說就會感覺奇怪。

...嘛,我知道我可能講太深了XD
總之就是跟上面許多人所說一樣,這種double bpm的map,拍子儘量不要下在藍線(串燒例外)XD

至於combo數...我是比較常一句或半句歌詞一個combo,不過這也是看你XD
但如果到01:12:990 (32)這樣就太多了...XD 大概最多不要超過15會比較好。 :P

之後...唔,我覺得offset好像有點早XD 大概試試看+7ms(就是512ms) :P?
嘛,如果你覺得不好的話,這可以略過,因為我timing也沒有很好Orz
那還有如果你打算要用512ms這個offset的話,記得改完要把所有note resnap XD

還有就是...[Hard]的slider tick...lol
因為這首歌並不是三分拍,所以slider tick千萬不要設成3 XDDD
(3等於說一拍會滴答三次,1/3拍搭一次,所以就會跟四分拍的歌不符XD)
設成0.5,1,2,4都可以,我是比較喜歡0.5或1 :P, 4可能會有點吵...不過這看你,總之不要設3就好 XD)

嗯...所以大概就是這樣吧XD
這是首好歌,所以加油喔。>w</

final, star~ >w</
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
谢谢优姬 :) 我很喜欢你的beatmap 做的好棒 也有不少我喜欢的歌

我也不明白什么是双倍bpm 我测的是86.5 别人帮忙测的是173 ...

重做了一下hard full放弃了 >_<
DeadAlready

Suzuka Asahina wrote:

谢谢优姬 :) 我很喜欢你的beatmap 做的好棒 也有不少我喜欢的歌

我也不明白什么是双倍bpm 我测的是86.5 别人帮忙测的是173 ...

重做了一下hard full放弃了 >_<
噗,優姫是指我?謝謝~XD(< 這不重要(喂) )

呀哈,謝謝你喜歡我的map >w<
雖然說同樣是伊藤静的殘酷天使那首歌被我搞砸了...Orz
我現在看到我做的殘酷天使map一次就想到hina fans應該都很想幹掉我...D:


SPOILER
然後...嗯,雙倍bpm其實就是指說在bpm比較小的狀況(一般是小於100)下,因為歌手多半會唱在1/4拍上,
而在bpm100以上的歌"大部分"歌手多半是會唱在半拍上,
所以在做map時,就會"較常"把bpm小於100的歌的bpm加倍,這樣會比較好譜
(包括slider的速度、可以對著半拍紅線下節奏,或著是想擺串燒不用調1/8拍XD),
除非真的是都唱在半拍上的曲子(基本上符合的這種曲大多都會很柔和XD)才會沿用原本的低bpm。

所以這首,基本上我想map的人...10個有9個都會把bpm加倍XD
(因為這首感覺就很輕快,其實比較符合高bpm的印象lol) 因此,要用173或是86.5都是沒有關係的XD
不過bpm double以後就是像上面說的,要注意藍線上的節奏,如果是要創節奏真的不推荐譜在藍線上...XD
呃...不小心又講太多了 D:
其實現在不懂是正常的,這方面的知識我也是做了很多張map之後才慢慢了解的lol
那就是這樣,如果之後有問題的話,可以pm我問沒關係XD (雖然我也不一定能回答...)
不好意思打擾了,越講越多聽不懂的話>_<"

EDIT:

Suzuka Asahina wrote:

谢谢, 我还觉得173bpm有点难做 节奏好快 >_<

优姬的残酷天使很好啊 (一直想fl hard的 好喜欢) 别的map也很好 :)
嗯嗯,高bpm確實一開始會感覺有點難做XD 所以要更努力完成它喔 :D
最後,我也得說謝謝,謝謝你喜歡我的那些map~ >w<
TerisKey
0.0 hard不错哦
加油
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko

TerisKey wrote:

0.0 hard不错哦
加油
谢谢皮肤 还有一直教我作图 ><
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko

quintitem wrote:

Suzuka Asahina wrote:

谢谢优姬 :) 我很喜欢你的beatmap 做的好棒 也有不少我喜欢的歌

我也不明白什么是双倍bpm 我测的是86.5 别人帮忙测的是173 ...

重做了一下hard full放弃了 >_<
噗,優姫是指我?謝謝~XD(< 這不重要(喂) )

呀哈,謝謝你喜歡我的map >w<
雖然說同樣是伊藤静的殘酷天使那首歌被我搞砸了...Orz
我現在看到我做的殘酷天使map一次就想到hina fans應該都很想幹掉我...D:


SPOILER
然後...嗯,雙倍bpm其實就是指說在bpm比較小的狀況(一般是小於100)下,因為歌手多半會唱在1/4拍上,
而在bpm100以上的歌"大部分"歌手多半是會唱在半拍上,
所以在做map時,就會"較常"把bpm小於100的歌的bpm加倍,這樣會比較好譜
(包括slider的速度、可以對著半拍紅線下節奏,或著是想擺串燒不用調1/8拍XD),
除非真的是都唱在半拍上的曲子(基本上符合的這種曲大多都會很柔和XD)才會沿用原本的低bpm。

所以這首,基本上我想map的人...10個有9個都會把bpm加倍XD
(因為這首感覺就很輕快,其實比較符合高bpm的印象lol) 因此,要用173或是86.5都是沒有關係的XD
不過bpm double以後就是像上面說的,要注意藍線上的節奏,如果是要創節奏真的不推荐譜在藍線上...XD
呃...不小心又講太多了 D:
其實現在不懂是正常的,這方面的知識我也是做了很多張map之後才慢慢了解的lol
那就是這樣,如果之後有問題的話,可以pm我問沒關係XD (雖然我也不一定能回答...)
不好意思打擾了,越講越多聽不懂的話>_<"
谢谢, 我还觉得173bpm有点难做 节奏好快 >_<

优姬的残酷天使很好啊 (一直想fl hard的 好喜欢) 别的map也很好 :)
[MIO]_old
支持 支持~ sa加油啊~
Sumeragi Amane
IRCmod~ star>~<
Rex
star~
Ballance
moe~moe~azu><
star
f0012979
>_<
starpun1
做得不錯~
nice song nice map~
AngelHoney
無意中翻到這首 那就來隨便mod下<3

All

tags里寫上其他mapper的ID ( 按F4 )

Hard

00:06:481 (2) - 沒放準(沒完全移到白線上)
00:16:538 (3) - 移到左邊紅線
00:16:884 - add a note
00:17:057 - ^
00:17:232 (4) - 如果以上改了的話 這個就new combo
00:22:261 (1) - 從右邊的大白線上開始 (空掉的部份插入點note
00:27:290 (5,11) - new combo
00:56:075 (1) - 結束在左邊的大白線上 (空掉的部份用2組3連? 00:57:636 (1,2,3,4,5,6)
01:15:151 (5,6,7) - 間距?
01:22:086 (1) - 從右邊的大白線上開始 結束在01:23:647

Normal

00:06:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 間距!!!
00:27:290 (5,11) - new combo
00:43:590 (1) - 結束在左邊大白線上(要不然和後面一個note太近了 對於normal
00:56:076 (1) - 結束在00:57:982(之前hard也可以這樣)
01:09:948 (11) - new combo
01:13:070 (17,1) - 交換new combo
01:22:433 (1) - 結束在01:23:647

其他幾個難度 晚點來看 (改好后PM我也行
ShanaTan
General~
-There are alot of combo inconsistency in every difficuilty except for TerisKey's Hard that need to be looked on, I didn't mention it all but I think that you see a pattern here =P.
-Add TerisKey to the tags.
-Add (TV Size) to the title.

Easy~
00:24:688 (6) - New combo?
00:27:289 (4) - New combo?
00:29:716 (1) - Remove new combo?
00:30:063 (2) - New combo?
00:42:029 (4) - Extend it by 1/2 tick
00:46:884 (3) - New combo?
00:54:688 (7) - New combo?
00:58:849 (1) - Remove new combo?
01:09:774 (1) - New combo?

Normal~
00:11:335 (8) - New combo?
00:13:937 (1) - Remove new combo?
00:14:457 (6) - New combo?
00:16:190 (1) - Remove new combo?
00:16:884 (3) - New combo?
00:20:005 (7) - New combo?
00:27:290 (5) - New combo?
00:30:064 (7) - New combo?
00:38:388 (7) - New combo?
00:47:057 (5) - New combo?
01:01:624 (7) - New combo?
01:04:052 (5) - New combo?
01:04:745 (1) - Remove new combo?
01:06:826 (6) - New combo?
01:09:948 (7) - New combo?

Hard~
00:11:683 (5) - New combo?
00:13:937 (1) - Remove new combo?
00:14:457 (3) - New combo?
00:17:232 (4) - New combo?
00:27:290 (5) - New combo?
00:30:064 (7) - New combo?
00:38:388 (9) - New combo?
00:51:914 (6) - New combo?

Insane~
00:27:288 (12) - New combo? Having a 21 combo is way too long =P
00:31:277 (7) - New combo?
00:33:705 (18) - New combo?
00:35:612 (23) - New combo?
00:38:040 (1) - Remove new combo?
00:38:387 (3) - New combo?
00:41:162 (16) - New combo?
00:50:005 (19) - New combo?
00:51:913 (1) - New combo?
00:54:688 (10) - New combo?
01:01:451 (10) - New combo?
01:21:045 (1,1,1,1) - Why all the new combos?

TerisKey's Hard~
00:32:491 (1) - Unrankable spinner
00:34:919 (1) - Unrankable spinner
00:37:693 (11,12) - Why the sudden spacing change? Fix?
00:42:029 (4) - New combo?
00:43:589 (1) - Unrankable spinner
00:57:982 (3,4) - New combo or fix the spacing?
01:12:375 (1) - Unrankable spinner

Give me a PM if you decide to fix this and I'll come back.
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
thanks , Nekoo、 Honey :P
chocolate5215
顶图 给星~

中间拿点有一段感觉用单独的notes不妥~ :roll:
dkey
[Easy]
01:01:277 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏违和感。。想办法改

[Normal]
01:03:706 (10) - 改2分1拍(没说错0.0?)重叠9
01:08:907 (5) - 这滑条设半速(始点:add, 0.5x, use current time, ok 终点:next, add, prev, use current time, ok
01:09:601 (6) - 删掉
01:09:948 (7) - 新组
01:10:641 (1) - 新组

[Hard]
00:56:075 (1) - 左退2拍
00:58:156 (4,5,6) - 感觉不合适,把4删掉或改成回滚放3旁边或……

[Insane]
00:24:513 (1) - 我建议你重新考虑这之后的所有节奏编排

[TerisKey's Hard]
难度名改TerisKey's Insane
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
chocolate thanks for star :P

sato thank you , 最后一句在吐槽吗 >A</
KanbeKotori
;)
LKs
先加星 :)

OFFEST=560,试试
绿线加在note的前面,一般来说加在前面的红线或白线上(在后面也一样),或者在蓝线上


Easy


E难度最好间距不要有变化。。我提出一些不太合理的,你看看要不要改

[00:11:335] (1,2) 这里是不是间距近了
[00:25:901] 向右一格,向下一格
[00:29:716] (3,4) 远了
[00:39:081] (1,2) 这两个弄平行
[00:47:751] (1,2,3,4,5,6) 间距不对,而且不美观
[00;53:127] 向右一格
[01:07:520] (1,2) 让他们平行

Normal

[00:11;355] new combo?
[00:29:023] (4,5) 间距太近
[00:38:387] new combo (还有这两个间距太近了)
[00:59:890] (3,4) 这两个向右一格

Hard

[00:51:046] 向下两格?
[01:04:399] 这里new combo
[01:05:092] 这里不要new combo
[01:07:520] new combo?
[01:09:254] 这里不nc
[01:09:984] 这里new combo
[01:11:682] 不new combo
[01:12:029] nc

Insane

not bad

TerisKey's Difficulty

[00:44:803] 这里会不知道往哪里转,加个提示吧

~
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
thanks lks :P OFFEST还是觉得584比较有感觉? XD
Colin Hou
[General]:
  1. Title: Honjitsu, Mankai Watashi iro! (TV Size) 也就是一个逗号、一个感叹号和括号之前的空格.
  2. 注意更改之后不要保存直接上传 然后再打开其他难度逐个更改上传(同样不要保存)
[Easy]:
  1. 实话说不够Easy... 比如intro的间距就过大了
  2. 01:19:485 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这段按照严格spacing来
  3. 01:22:433 (1) - 加finish
[Normal]:
  1. 00:39:082 (2,3) - spacing
  2. 01:04:052 (1) - 这个slider不如换一个note 时间上位置是slider首尾夹着的红线
  3. 01:22:433 (1) - 01:23:647结束 加finish
[Hard]:
  1. Slider Velocity太低了...建议增加到至少1.4然后重新校正slider长度以及note间距(差不多就是重新map一次了)
  2. 01:22:433 (1) - 加finish
[TerisKey's Difficulty]:
  1. 00:33:531 (1,2,3) - 几乎看不到approching circle 看看能不能在前面的段落里加个newcombo 然后这里就是粉色了会好一点
  2. 01:13:242 (1) - 呃 同样的问题
  3. 01:22:433 (1) - 加finish
把Easy改简单点 可以把circle改大点

Hard的slider速度调整下 最终难度不改是因为慢速slider在非固定spacing(特别是有跳)上难度比告诉难

其实自己多打几遍依你的Rank已经可以看出来哪里不太舒服了 :D

SAMSUNG!
tuidaololi
飘~=w=
L y n n i e
^ ^我喜欢这个
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
thanks for star 谢谢你喜欢我的map :)
Suling_old
:)
Kecco
•Overall•
Resnap All Notes on all diffs.

•TerisKey's insane•
00:31:277 (2) - 2 grids down? (lv3)
00:34:052 (5) - 1 grid left?
00:34:745 (7) - 2 grids right?
01:00:930 (9) - New combo and 1 grid up and 2 right?
01:12:029 (1) - Eeh? Better if you switch it with some notes and sliders.

•Hard•
00:16:363 (3) - Add a clap on the end of this slider.
00:16:884 (4) - Add a clap.
00:22:259 (4,5) - ^
00:45:670 (1) - 4 grids left?
00:54:688 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Make those this way? ---> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11763
00:57:808 (1,2) - Pleace these in the grid-centre?
01:03:878 (?) - Add a circle with clap?
01:04:052 (?) - ^

•Normal•
00:08:907 (5) - New combo.
00:21:394 (5) - Prolong this slider to the following red tick?
00:24:515 (1) - This following note after the spinner is too far from the centre for being a normal diff.
00:41:162 (1,2) - 1 grid up?
00:45:670 (1,2) - A normal diff with jumps? Blergh.
01:19:139 (1,2,3) - Wrong spacing.

•Easy•
I think that in the final part of this diff there are many jumps that can be avoided, especially for the easy diffs.
00:08:907 (4) - New combo.
00:11:682 (4) - ^
00:14:456 (4) - ^
00:22:607 (1) - I think this spinner is too quick for a Easy diff. Prolong it to [00:24:167]?
00:24:514 (1) - If you follow ↑ passage I think you should move this slider closer to the grid-centre.
00:24:514 (Timing Section) - Why this diff, on the contrary of the other ones, has this timing section with Normal sound? I think it should be Soft like the other diffs.
00:49:486 (5) - New combo
00:51:913 (1) - ^
01:01:624 (3) - ^
01:04:399 (3) - ^
01:07:173 (3) - ^
01:09:948 (3) - ^
01:11:162 (2) - 2 grids up?
01:12:722 (3) - New combo.
01:13:936 (4) - 2 grids up?
01:20:005 (3) - Prolong this slider to the following white tick.
01:21:046 (4) - Move this slider on the previous white tick.

Cool map~
Pretty song~
Star~
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
thanks for mod~
Curisu
观光团特地对你实行惨无人道的围观
星~
Frill
[General]

- Add tags [Hayate no Gotoku] [Anime]

[Easy]

00:29:023 (2) - remove whistle

[Normal]

Good.

[Hard]

01:19:138 (5) - add finish end (01:19:485 - )
01:20:699 (2) - add whistle

[TerisKey's insane]

01:19:485 (3) - add fnish


Fun map~

+Star
MegaManEXE
(ノ゚ω゚)ノ~☆

Nice job, love this song

Wish I had gotten around to finishing my version now D:
abalee
Normal:
00:10:294 (3,1,2) - try this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11958
00:12:375 (3,4) - Spacing.
Hmm.. actually you should shorten the spacing from 00:10:294 (3) to 00:15:844 (5) - , it is a bit far from behind.

And..some sort of complain about that your map doesn't have custom comboburst :/
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
谢谢 comboburst done.
Alace
<Easy>
00:24:861 (1,2,1,2) - they don`t sound really sweet for my ears i sugeest you can use pattern like the picyures
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11984 yours
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11985 example one
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11986 example two
00:38:387 (1,2,3) - claps don`t sound really good here
00:46:711 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - use 50~60% volume for this part
00:54:688 (1,2,3,4) - i suggest use normal hitsounds with 65% -->75% -->80%
00:58:849 (1) - making it end on white tick sounds better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11987
01:01:624 (1) - ^
01:09:948 (1) - ^
01:12:722 (1) - ^

<Normal>
01:22:433 (1) - end on 01:23:64

<Hard>
00:29:370 (5) - remove this clap

About Normal and Hard`s Hitsounds
If you listen to the music carefully,you can find that BGM claps are on 2 4 6 8..... divisors
Like the picture

Usually. we add claps on those beats
In your case, you pick soft-whistle as clap in Normal and hard
Try to add soft-whistles on 2 4 6.... beats

<Insane>
01:18:271 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - maybe you can make this oart louder XD

the mapset is getting bette, good job
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
done. 谢谢老师的mod
Alace
<Easy>
00:38:387 (1,2,3) - 這幾個clap不打算移掉嗎??

<Normal>
00:38:388 (1) - 補上whistle

hard跟normal的音量可以調整成一樣, 80%~85%滿理想的 100%在前半段有點太大聲
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
再次感谢
Andrea
[Easy]

Remove all unused green lines sections.


00:27:636 (5) - New combo.
00:38:387 (1,2,3) - Like Alace said, this claps sounds weird. Remove them.
01:19:138 (1) - Remove new combo.


[Normal]

00:33:532 (5) - New combo.
00:49:485 (8) - ^
01:10:641 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:19:139 (1) - ^


[Hard]

00:18:618 (5) - New combo.
00:37:867 (7) - Place it correctly under 00:37:347 (6).
01:19:138 (5) - Why starting from here the volume is so low? Increase it a bit.


[TerisKey's insane]

Capitalize "insane" to "Insane".


00:17:404 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:00:930 (9) - New combo due to jump.
01:20:005 (1) - Same as Hard. Volume is too low, increase it a bit.


Not bad for a first map.
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
thanks done. :)
Andrea
Looks better now ^_^

Bubbled~
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
thanks again ><
DeadAlready
Reference for my map's fan~ (?)

P.S: This diff is not for submit so everybody you can ignore this diff except Suzuka Asahina~ lol

SPOILER
唔喔 泡泡了呀,那看來這個參考難度也可以丟了XD (喂
嘛 上次你跟我說的做好了,sa你可以看看哪個pattern你覺得不錯的就直接用在你map上就好了,
記住喔,不要上傳這個難度,真的不要給我上傳這個難度XDDDD
這只是給你參考的,不會可惜,真的不會可惜(喂),覺得哪裡好真的直接copy到你的map裡就好了XD

不過要注意的是你這map已經泡泡了,如果上傳的話泡泡會破掉喔,所以如果你真的找到pattern想改要三思lol

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AngelHoney
泡泡了麽 那算了...
abalee
Ranked.
Topic Starter
Mayoi Neko
thanks all :) :)
Colin Hou
WoW 明天(今天)的考试要好好加油哦 :3
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