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Himeka - Asu e no Kizuna (TV Size)

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Shinde
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 11:37:04 AM

Artist: Himeka
Title: Asu e no Kizuna (TV Size)
Source: Valkyria Chronicles
Tags: OP opening azure azure_kyte shinxyn
BPM: 158
Filesize: 9932kb
Play Time: 01:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Azure's Easy (1.88 stars, 73 notes)
  2. Hard (4.56 stars, 146 notes)
  3. Insane (4.91 stars, 183 notes)
  4. Shinxyn's Normal (3.49 stars, 103 notes)
Download: Himeka - Asu e no Kizuna (TV Size)
Download: Himeka - Asu e no Kizuna (TV Size) (no video)
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Valkyria Chronicles 1st OP

Nothing fancy.

New mp3, please re-download if obtained before April 20th.
Resized wallpaper on May 4th.
New video on May 22nd, high quality - same filesize, sadly withouts subs.
Last edited by Shinde , edited 40 times in total.
Azure_Kite
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My Easy :D

EDIT: Fix'd

Download: Himeka - Asu e no Kizuna (Shinde) [Azure's Easy].osu
Shinde
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Shinde
I renamed the difficulties to include '(TV Size)' cause I forgot. o.o;

Easy Mod
01:13:475 (2) - Not stacked properly.
00:13:285 (2,3) - Spacing.
00:22:399 (4) - Add stacked note here to fix spacing/beat.
00:54:234 (1,2) - I'd turn this into a single repeat slider since it's 1/3, so as not to confuse the noobs. I did so in Normal and am still considering doing it in Hard just because this part sucks vocal-time wise.

Also I guess I'll reserve this post for mod swapping stuff for Easy-Normal/Hard. Or something like that. u_u;
Sakura
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Sakura
Red = Major issue, you should fix this
Purple = Issue, It's better if you fix this, and can sometimes pass if justified
Blue = Minor issue, you can ignore if you dont want to change
Green = Feedback / Comments
Black = Suggestion

[Azure's Easy]
00:14:804 (4,5) - I think theese 2 are unintuitive for beginners considering they are on red ticks even tho 1 beat apart, but would u mind making them into a slider instead? the fact that there's 1.5 beats since the last hit would maybe confuse beginners making them hit too early or too late
00:15:753 (1,2) - Another 1.5 beat here, i think theese would work better as a slider instead as well, however i didnt have many problems with theese on gameplay so i'll leave it as suggestion

[Normal]
Looks fine to me.

[Hard]
Looks fine to me.

Umm pretty good, never gotten to see this series tho hehehe +Star
Garven
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[General]
The kiai section felt a little odd while I was playing it. I'm not sure if it's because of the slightly delayed vocal style or they change the offset a little bit somewhere... I can't quite pinpoint it, and I might be stabbing at nothing here. *shrug*

[Easy]
00:09:677 (1,2,3) - This looked familiar for some reason... (copy/paste in the first 6 notes, heh)
00:54:234 (1,2) - Considering where these fall on the time line, maybe use a slider with a repeat?
01:13:095 (1,2) - These are kind of stacked weird.

[Normal]
00:29:519 (1) - Have an audible soft finish here. It is in the song itself.
01:19:361 (4) - Raise the volume on this hit a little.

[Hard]
00:29:519 (1) - Have an audible soft finish here. It is in the song itself.
00:46:513 (3,4) - Tricky... :D
00:54:234 (1,2,3) - With these three, I really didn't have a problem on sight read getting 300s. I think with the accuracy leniency setting, this will be fine.
01:19:361 (4) - Raise the volume on this hit a little.
Shinde
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Shinde

Garven wrote:

[General]
because of the slightly delayed vocal style I know right? She kinda failed during the previous measure. I stared at this part for quite a while listening in 25% before coming to the conclusion I did.

[Normal]
00:29:519 (1) - Have an audible soft finish here. It is in the song itself. There is one there. There isn't one in the song. xd
01:19:361 (4) - Raise the volume on this hit a little. Very yes.

[Hard]
00:29:519 (1) - Have an audible soft finish here. It is in the song itself. Same above.
00:46:513 (3,4) - Tricky... :D Tehee.
00:54:234 (1,2,3) - With these three, I really didn't have a problem on sight read getting 300s. I think with the accuracy leniency setting, this will be fine. Yeah it seems to fall on 1/3s. I dislike this part, it's a little iffy. I asked ztrot if how I went about it was fine and he said yeah. I've SS'd the song once or twice out of a handful of plays, so I think the map's fair.
01:19:361 (4) - Raise the volume on this hit a little. Same above.
I will leave the rest and Sakura's mod to Azure whenever he pops in.
Shinxyn
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Shinxyn
yay, rankable mapset!
anime is a set genre, so it doesn't have to be in tags
I still think the sample rate for the mp3 is lowered or something... oh well, might just be me

Azure's- I don't see the changes here yet... so.. skipped most of the things
Following vocal ... oh well lots of sliders... would prefer it doesn't follow vocal, oh well
00:54:234 (1,2) - okay, the post before this says to make this a slider, I SAY remove it completely, for the gap after spinner and how you started on a non vocal (for kiai) after these two notes

Already asked things in Normal/Hard, its fine

Prefer louder/clearer (might just be me) mp3... x.x

Lots of mapping practice, so your maps are "flawless" now >.> just no motivation to get them ranked, oi
Shinde
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Shinde

Shinxyn wrote:

yay, rankable mapset! ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ
anime is a set genre, so it doesn't have to be in tags Roger.
I still think the sample rate for the mp3 is lowered or something... oh well, might just be me Yeah.. Yeah. It's good now, I think. 256kbps, 44100 rate goodness. Got ztrot timing to boot as you already know. :3

Azure's- I don't see the changes here yet... so.. skipped most of the things
Following vocal ... oh well lots of sliders... would prefer it doesn't follow vocal, oh well
00:54:234 (1,2) - okay, the post before this says to make this a slider, I SAY remove it completely, for the gap after spinner and how you started on a non vocal (for kiai) after these two notes

Already asked things in Normal/Hard, its fine

Prefer louder/clearer (might just be me) mp3... x.x

Lots of mapping practice, so your maps are "flawless" now >.> just no motivation to get them ranked, oi I apologize. :(
I reduced hitvolume some more, I think it should be of a more appropriate level in matching the song's volume.

Azure, I moved your timing lines to be on beat and adjusted the offset. I don't think there should be any volume problems, but I'll need you to recheck everything and make sure you're satisfied with it, and look over some of the mods.

Also I put that finish where you/Garven said. o.o; I got confused by the wording earlier.
Jarby
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Jarby
Your video offset seems late :|

Easy:

00:24:769 - THAT BREAK FFFFFF

Normal:

Plays like a Hard, has Normal difficulty settings.

Hard:

Plays like an Insane, has Hard difficulty settings.
00:55:149 (1) - I'd say make a 1/2 slider out of this. R-right?
Shinde
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JarJarJacob wrote:

Your video offset seems late :| Oh, I forgot to change the video offset when I changed mp3, thanks Jar. orz u_u;

Easy:

00:24:769 - THAT BREAK FFFFFF

Normal:

Plays like a Hard, has Normal difficulty settings. I think it's fine, right? If it's a Hard, I think it's a very easy Hard, same for Insane. But maybe my difficulty gauge is skewed.

Hard:

Plays like an Insane, has Hard difficulty settings.
00:55:149 (1) - I'd say make a 1/2 slider out of this. R-right? R-right.
I also readjusted the preview time since the offset changed with the mp3, so it's on a tick instead of chilling out in nowhere land. Not that this would've been noticed audibly.

EDIT: Due to the upcoming addition of 'Expert' difficulties above Insane, I think it will be best to rename Normal as Hard, and Hard as Insane. I'm considering making a less difficult Normal now. :? I also adjusted the difficulty settings on Hard and Insane, and added a finish I forgot to include in Insane.
Shinxyn
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Shinxyn
I don't need credit for this map ~~
... though people might ask you to add my name to tags >.> I don't care

Download: Himeka - Asu e no Kizuna (TV Size) (Shinde) [Normal].osu
Azure_Kite
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Here's my updated diff.

Sorry it took a while; sorta busy atm orz

Download: Himeka - Asu e no Kizuna (TV Size) (Shinde) [Azure's Easy].osu
Shinde
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Okay, I looked through the mods to see if you used Sakura's since I was waiting for that to give kudosu, but since you didn't I'll leave it as a 'Thank you for modding.'

Updated difficulty, going to check again to see if everything's in order, then get some more mods.
yeahyeahyeahhh
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nante
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nante
Nice map dude.
I've made some graphics like hitcircle etc. Hope you'll like it.
http://rapidshare.com/files/379349742/1 ... _.rar.html

also star
Shinde
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Shinde
I'm actually a resident skinner, so I'm quite proficient in skinning. I'm sorry, but I can't use any of those. :? As a note, if you skin a hitcircle you usually include an intended hitcircle-overlay or it causes mishaps like this. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7940 Certain items work as a set, such as the 3 main spinner images, the HP-background and HP-colour, etc. so if one part isn't skinned it has potential to look odd.

Anyways, thanks for your effort and sorry~
nante
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Shinde wrote:

Anyways, thanks for your effort and sorry~
No need to apologize. I rather shall thank you for your advices.
Fuuko
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Fuuko's mod DEKIMASHITA <33'

Orz, a pro map. Sheesh.

General:

Combo colours:
Combo1 : 66,137,255
Combo2 : 193,193,255
Combo3 : 128,255,128
Easy:

Slider velocity made me cry, Azure. ;w; It's even higher than Shin's. Reduce it.
Normal:

You disappointed me with this diff...not chaotic and don't even have 6541324189413248945324894189 green lines. :< I cried. Good diff and nothing to point.
Hard:

Reduce the normal-hitnormal volumee a bit.
Insane:

Same as hard.
Pro. Star.
Shinde
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Some irc modding/discussion as well. I'll talk to Azure about slider velocity and try to figure out what to do since I feel this is a valid point. Time to go readjust a bunch of volume timing panels and stare at a color wheel. u_u
Gens
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damn that slider velocity in Easy
And Insane is too easy~

Everything else is fine (did you seriously expect I could get a flaw from this map?)
Shinde
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Gens wrote:

And Insane is too easy~ I know right? D: The upcoming Expert difficulty is the thing that barely convinced me to bump it up from Hard. Maybe if I'm feeling daring I'll try to make a harder difficulty while making sure it isn't overmapped like hell, but I'm not planning on it atm. It is TV Size so 5 difficulties might be acceptable to me.

Everything else is fine (did you seriously expect I could get a flaw from this map?) Maybe. D:
Thanks for modding you guys~ This feedback has given me some stuff to do..
Shinxyn
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Fuuko wrote:

Normal:

You disappointed me with this diff...not chaotic and don't even have 6541324189413248945324894189 green lines. :< I cried. Good diff and nothing to point.
Um.... why am I portrayed like that ;-;
ztrot
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bump :p
Shinde
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Hey ztrot. o/

I think I'm mostly waiting on Azure to re-do Easy's sliders. I haven't seen him on so I guess I'll PM him about it. I tried making a harder diff but it was an overmapped piece of garbage, so I'll be sticking with these 4.
Azure_Kite
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Mah fix'd difficyulty. Slider velocity is 1.00, spacing changed a little.

Download: Himeka - Asu e no Kizuna (TV Size) (Shinde) [Azure's Easy].osu
Shinde
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Ok, I rescaled the wallpaper and equalized some combo colours based on Fuuko's suggestion. I didn't have much preference between the old and new ones, but I guess having them all the same is good.

Also, I adjusted some volumes on your's Azure. =( They were like way loud. Made a copy of the previous files in case anyone gets angry at me. I think that's everything.
Azure_Kite
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kk. When I'm done pasting stickers onto all these flyers* I'll give all diffs a wee mod.

*some agricultural festival thingy going on from fri-sun. We have a site there or something. *shrugs*
Ephemeral
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doop doop haboop
Shinde
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Hell yeah bubble. Once Azure and I re-check everything and talk a bit I'll throw it at ztrot.

Should I give kudosu for the -10 offset you gave me, Eph? o_o;
Larto
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Easy:
Okay, the spacing on this diff is a bit stupid all the time, but one thing is totally retarded
01:15:645 (1,2,3,4) - Look at 1 and 2. Then 3 and 4.

Thank you.

EDIT: Thank you
Shohei Ohtani
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Shinxyn's normal:
00:08:430 (3,4) - Because of stack leniency, this isn't stacked with 1. It's not neccesary to change it, but it'd look nicer if you did.

Easy:
Not sure about the half-time sliders, but if 2 BATs already said it was fine, then I guess it's fine.

That's all~.
Shinde
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CDFA wrote:

Shinxyn's normal:
00:08:430 (3,4) - Because of stack leniency, this isn't stacked with 1. It's not neccesary to change it, but it'd look nicer if you did. Lol, they're 5 beats away, even at max stack leniency they won't, plus if they did at so high and I changed it, it'd make the rest of the map weird. :?

Easy:
Not sure about the half-time sliders, but if 2 BATs already said it was fine, then I guess it's fine. Nah, I think they're okay.

That's all~.
Thanks for modding~
anonymous_old
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Azure's Easy
00:07:671 (2,2) - Ends feel poorly timed.
00:14:696 (4,5) - I read this as 3/2, but it's 1/1. =S??? Unstack? Or make it 3/2? Or both? 1/1 is confusing because it suddenly shifts from the orchestra to the piano part, then switches back right after.
00:21:531 (3,4) - Could be made into a better slider[-note] combination. Redo plz.
00:36:911 (1) - Notes shown on spinner.
00:46:025 (3) - Double the length and reduce to one repeat?
00:52:291 (1) - Notes shown on spinner. You could easily remove 00:54:126 (1).
01:05:392 (1,2,3) - Increase stack leniency so this stacks.

Shinxy's Normal
I didn't like the feel of this entire map.

00:06:531 (1,2,3,4) - You're killing players right there with the overlapping.
00:11:278 (4) - Totally unexpected timing.
00:15:645 (1,2,3) - Ugly.
00:26:278 (3) - Eh, I don't like short sliders like this in easier diffs.
00:50:392 (5) - Could be removed.
01:01:595 (2,3) - Stack?

Hard
01:00:456 (4) - Eh, feels bad.
01:18:683 (1,2,3) - Doesn't feel right stacked.

Insane
All good. =]

Sadly, due to the poor guest difficulties, I cannot send you a Seal. Here's a Mankey instead.
Shinxyn
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strager wrote:

Shinxy's Normal
I didn't like the feel of this entire map. x_x

00:06:531 (1,2,3,4) - You're killing players right there with the overlapping. Good, don't need to fix
00:11:278 (4) - Totally unexpected timing. wouldn't sound right on 1/1 though
00:15:645 (1,2,3) - Ugly. meh, could space this out if Shinde wants
00:26:278 (3) - Eh, I don't like short sliders like this in easier diffs. I don't mind, but if it should be changed, then mirror 00:25:139 (1)
00:50:392 (5) - Could be removed. True, but it's fine :x
01:01:595 (2,3) - Stack? Maybe
:| all small stuff, if Shinde wants those changed, I -can- do them, or she could, too.
Up to her, I don't mind.
Gens
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Shinxyn wrote:

:| all small stuff, if Shinde wants those changed, I -can- do them, or she could, too.
Up to her, I don't mind.
WHATTTTT IS SHINDE FEMALE
OH GODDDDDD

Shinde wrote:

CDFA wrote:

Shinxyn's normal:
00:08:430 (3,4) - Because of stack leniency, this isn't stacked with 1. It's not neccesary to change it, but it'd look nicer if you did. Lol, they're 5 beats away, even at max stack leniency they won't, plus if they did at so high and I changed it, it'd make the rest of the map weird. :?
You could always stack them manually ;D
anonymous_old
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anonymous_old

Gens wrote:

Shinxyn wrote:

:| all small stuff, if Shinde wants those changed, I -can- do them, or she could, too.
Up to her, I don't mind.
WHATTTTT IS SHINDE FEMALE
OH GODDDDDD
Of course.

No man would have that kind of stupidity. I "stand" corrected.
Shinde
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Shinde
Did you just liken me to a retarded 11 year-old troll?

You guys suck eggs. :(

Edit: K I dunno what to do about strager's mod cause I don't feel strongly about any of it. Going to delay it further, possibly try to re-encode and get a better quality video.
Azure_Kite
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Trolls trollin' poor little Shinde...

Here's an updated diff for you~

Download: Himeka - Asu e no Kizuna (TV Size) (Shinde) [Azure's Easy].osu
Larto
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this is stupid
Ephemeral
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I tried to think of something witty to say, but Larto stole my thunder. :(

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