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Topic Starter
Kruzon
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, February 08, 2015 at 4:16:51 AM

Artist: BACK-ON
Title: Cerulean
Source: ガンダムビルドファイターズトライ
Tags: Gundam Build Fighters Try anime opening
BPM: 196
Filesize: 4098kb
Play Time: 02:31
Difficulties Available:
  1. Blazing Heart (Hard+) - 7Key (3.08 stars, 1335 notes)
  2. Determined Heart (Normal+) - 7Key (2.1 stars, 789 notes)
  3. Starry Sky (Normal) - 7Key (1.91 stars, 693 notes)
  4. Unraveled Courage (Hard) - 7Key (2.72 stars, 1064 notes)
Download: BACK-ON - Cerulean
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This map is not ready yet for rank!
Major Inconsistencies fixes on Normal, Normal+, and Hard Applied.
Insane has been deleted.
- I will only add Kiai time and hitsound once everything is deem perfect


Normal ~ 10 Mods ^^
Normal+ ~10 Mods C:
Hard ~ 10 Mods C:
Hard+ ~ 5 Mods ...


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Coming Soon \:D/
Topic Starter
Kruzon
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ego_17
for me its 196 and satanic offset 6664

6663.69433547736,306.122448979592,4,1,0,30,1,0

mb its 98 (half) try both
Topic Starter
Kruzon

ego_17 wrote:

for me its 196 and satanic offset 6664

6663.69433547736,306.122448979592,4,1,0,30,1,0

mb its 98 (half) try both

thank you ^^
ArcherLove
I feel like quick modding NM and NM+ since you only want me to mod the HD Diff..

mod
collumn = 1~7

[Normal]

01:29:317 (89317|1) - maybe you would like to end this here 01:29:929 - then map the drum after ..
01:36:970 (96970|2) - change to normal note or move to 01:37:123 -
01:39:725 (99725|2) - starts here 01:39:572 -
01:55:643 (115643|2,115643|1) - starts here 01:55:490 -
01:59:317 (119317|2) - starts here 01:59:164 -

[Normal +]

01:02:225 (62225|5,62225|0,62225|2) - oops misplaced ? 01:02:378 - ?
01:32:378 ~ 01:34:521 - you shouldn't let this empty (I see you mapping vocal before, but I think it's ok because 3LNs)

[Hard]

00:14:929 - add note here
00:36:357 ~ 00:43:092 - add note each white line for tick (cymbal drum)
00:46:153 ~ 00:54:112 - ^ same
00:54:266 - add note to 1
01:02:225 (62225|5,62225|0,62225|2) - ? not here 01:02:378 - ?
01:32:378 ~ 01:34:521 - can't be empty
01:35:439 - 01:36:051 - 01:36:587 - add note for tick
01:36:970 (96970|4) - LN starts here 01:37:123 -
01:37:888 - 01:38:500 - 01:39:112 - add note for tick
01:40:337 - 01:40:949 - 01:41:561 - ^
01:42:786 - ^
01:43:398 - add note to 2
01:44:929 ~ 01:52:888 - add note each white line for tick
01:55:643 (115643|6,115643|2,115643|0) - may move this here 01:55:490
01:58:092 (118092|0) - move here (end 01:58:398 - ) then add Long Note 01:57:786 - finish 01:57:786 -
01:59:317 (119317|1,119317|2,119317|4) - starts 01:59:164 -

as much as possible not mapping vocal, well why I say "empty = can't do" =
Rangkin Criteria : Part of song cannot be left empty except there is completly no sound

good luck!~
edit : Hard done ~
Topic Starter
Kruzon
thanks, and waiting hard difficulty mod to pop up lol

ArcherLove wrote:

[Normal]

01:29:317 (89317|1) - maybe you would like to end this here 01:29:929 - then map the drum after .. ah, i will do this on hard, thanks
01:36:970 (96970|2) - change to normal note or move to 01:37:123 - the ln is not faulty, however i did miss a note there, thanks
01:39:725 (99725|2) - starts here 01:39:572 - fixed, thank you
01:55:643 (115643|2,115643|1) -
01:59:317 (119317|2) - starts here 01:59:164 - fixed

[Normal +]

01:02:225 (62225|5,62225|0,62225|2) - oops misplaced ? 01:02:378 - ? fixed, thanks
01:32:378 ~ 01:34:521 - you shouldn't let this empty (I see you mapping vocal before, but I think it's ok because 3LNs) aye, i'll fill some notes later

ArcherLove wrote:

[Hard]

00:14:929 - add note here added to 00:14:929 (14929|2) - fixed
00:36:357 ~ 00:43:092 - add note each white line for tick (cymbal drum) fixed
00:46:153 ~ 00:54:112 - ^ same fixed some, i left several part as usual
00:54:266 - add note to 1 fixed, thanks
01:02:225 (62225|5,62225|0,62225|2) - ? not here 01:02:378 - ? fixed
01:32:378 ~ 01:34:521 - can't be empty added pattern now with modified beat snap, thank you
01:35:439 - 01:36:051 - 01:36:587 - add note for tick added single note, side by side, fixed
01:36:970 (96970|4) - LN starts here 01:37:123 - fixed
01:37:888 - 01:38:500 - 01:39:112 - add note for tick fixed
01:40:337 - 01:40:949 - 01:41:561 - ^ fixed
01:42:786 - ^ fixed
01:43:398 - add note to 2 fixed
01:44:929 ~ 01:52:888 - add note each white line for tick I leave some part as usual fixed
01:55:643 (115643|6,115643|2,115643|0) - may move this here 01:55:490 fixed
01:58:092 (118092|0) - move here (end 01:58:398 - ) then add Long Note 01:57:786 - finish 01:57:786 - I use roundabout way instead
01:59:317 (119317|1,119317|2,119317|4) - starts 01:59:164 - fixed, thanks
thank you for the mod!

Updated.
Aphrodena
From: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/CTCR-40368 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt9Wjx-C5vQ
Source: Gundam Build Fighters Try (ガンダムビルドファイターズトライ)
Topic Starter
Kruzon
thank you ;)
Evening
General view about HARD

Going to point out certain stuff when i was play testing that felt weird

00:25:337 (25337|1,25490|0,25490|1) - This pattern feels unnecessarily hard on the left hand due to the hammer and the LN there I suggest to move this 00:25:490 (25490|1) - right by 4 columns or 5
00:34:521 (34521|3,34674|1,34674|5,34674|4,34980|4,35133|3,35133|2,35286|5,35439|3,35439|4,35592|6,35745|5,35745|4,35898|6,35898|3,36204|3,36357|6,36357|4,36357|2,36664|3) - left hand feels a bit empty here, might want to balance
00:48:755 (48755|1,48755|5,48755|4,49215|5,49215|4,49215|2,49827|4,49827|5,49827|2,49980|3,50439|4,50592|6,50592|5,50898|2,51051|0,51051|1,51357|4,51664|6,51664|3,51664|2,51664|0) - Feels a bit underwhelming here with consideration to the intensity of the music, might want to throw in more notes/LNs
00:55:490 (55490|1,55796|3,56102|5) - Doesn't really follow anything strong to the rhythm here whilst they are on a 1/2 snap which makes this pattern rather hard to time, might want to consider restructuring this
00:56:868 (56868|2) - Might want to extend by 1/2 and move 1/2 forward so as to follow the electric guitar
01:06:970 (66970|5,67582|6) - Might want to move to the left hand here, it's a bit awkward to execute this with the LN held down
01:17:684 (77684|1,77837|4,77837|2,77837|5,77990|6,78143|1,78143|5,78296|3,78296|4,78602|1,78755|2,78755|3) - Move down by 1/2 | It feels like you are emphasizing the chords at the wrong places here lol
01:27:480 - Might want to chord here instead of 01:27:633 (87633|2,87633|5) - since the vocals/instruments emphasizes here
01:27:633 (87633|2,87633|5,89317|1,89623|0,89929|5,90235|6) - tbh, this LN doesn't really fit | Reason :
01:29:317 (89317|1,89623|0) - I would cut these LNs here 01:29:776 - since there is a "pause" in the music
01:29:929 (89929|5) - I would chord this also due to the drums/instruments/etc.
01:34:253 (94253|4,94291|5,94329|6,94368|0,94406|1,94444|2) - Well this is definitely overmapped, it's not really wrong but i suggest to use a more rigid pattern for this so as to accurately represent the drums here and also chord earlier due to the change in rhythm of the drums here | Something like this

01:39:725 (99725|4) - If you are representing the guitar with this, this is 1/2 late, move it earlier and extend
01:52:276 (112276|5,112276|3,112888|3,112888|1) - Don't really know why is this so empty?
01:59:010 (119010|6) - Shorten by 1/2, makes the finger transition to 01:59:164 (119164|4) - better
02:16:766 (136766|3) - This is early by 1/2
02:25:643 (145643|3,145643|5,145796|6,145796|4,145949|5,145949|6) - This feels a bit too hard/harsh on the right hand for HD in my perspective, might want to resort to a nerf
02:26:255 - Might want to cut the LN 02:25:949 (145949|5) - here or add another LN here since the music cuts the guitar
02:27:786 - Add a note here for vocals?

Might want to add kiai also

00:06:663 - TO 00:35:898 -
01:10:337 - TO 01:29:623 -
01:29:929 - TO 01:30:005 - ( This short Kiai Time is to generate the kiai fountain, it just looks cool )
02:09:112 - TO 02:26:255 -
02:28:704 - TO 02:28:781 - ( This short Kiai Time is to generate the kiai fountain )
Topic Starter
Kruzon

Z3nx wrote:

General view about HARD


ALL FIXED APPLIED except statements bolded with red
Going to point out certain stuff when i was play testing that felt weird

00:25:337 (25337|1,25490|0,25490|1) - This pattern feels unnecessarily hard on the left hand due to the hammer and the LN there I suggest to move this 00:25:490 (25490|1) - right by 4 columns or 5 fixed
00:34:521 (34521|3,34674|1,34674|5,34674|4,34980|4,35133|3,35133|2,35286|5,35439|3,35439|4,35592|6,35745|5,35745|4,35898|6,35898|3,36204|3,36357|6,36357|4,36357|2,36664|3) - left hand feels a bit empty here, might want to balance fixed
00:48:755 (48755|1,48755|5,48755|4,49215|5,49215|4,49215|2,49827|4,49827|5,49827|2,49980|3,50439|4,50592|6,50592|5,50898|2,51051|0,51051|1,51357|4,51664|6,51664|3,51664|2,51664|0) - Feels a bit underwhelming here with consideration to the intensity of the music, might want to throw in more notes/LNs threw some cookies for the sake of overwhelming them
00:55:490 (55490|1,55796|3,56102|5) - Doesn't really follow anything strong to the rhythm here whilst they are on a 1/2 snap which makes this pattern rather hard to time, might want to consider restructuring this restructured, apply several changes on other as well
00:56:868 (56868|2) - Might want to extend by 1/2 and move 1/2 forward so as to follow the electric guitar fixed
01:06:970 (66970|5,67582|6) - Might want to move to the left hand here, it's a bit awkward to execute this with the LN held down fixed, that's what happen when i didn't test played it myself
01:17:684 (77684|1,77837|4,77837|2,77837|5,77990|6,78143|1,78143|5,78296|3,78296|4,78602|1,78755|2,78755|3) - Move down by 1/2 | It feels like you are emphasizing the chords at the wrong places here lol fixed, thanks for noticing this
01:27:480 - Might want to chord here instead of 01:27:633 (87633|2,87633|5) - since the vocals/instruments emphasizes here
01:27:633 (87633|2,87633|5,89317|1,89623|0,89929|5,90235|6) - tbh, this LN doesn't really fit | Reason :
01:29:317 (89317|1,89623|0) - I would cut these LNs here 01:29:776 - since there is a "pause" in the music
01:29:929 (89929|5) - I would chord this also due to the drums/instruments/etc.
I'm still indecisive on this section, I'll see what i can do about it
01:34:253 (94253|4,94291|5,94329|6,94368|0,94406|1,94444|2) - Well this is definitely overmapped, it's not really wrong but i suggest to use a more rigid pattern for this so as to accurately represent the drums here and also chord earlier due to the change in rhythm of the drums here | Something like this
I think it's cool, however it maybe imbalance, therefore i applied rigid patterns as you suggested
01:39:725 (99725|4) - If you are representing the guitar with this, this is 1/2 late, move it earlier and extend fixed
01:52:276 (112276|5,112276|3,112888|3,112888|1) - Don't really know why is this so empty? filled em up, fixed
01:59:010 (119010|6) - Shorten by 1/2, makes the finger transition to 01:59:164 (119164|4) - better fixed
02:16:766 (136766|3) - This is early by 1/2 fixed
02:25:643 (145643|3,145643|5,145796|6,145796|4,145949|5,145949|6) - This feels a bit too hard/harsh on the right hand for HD in my perspective, might want to resort to a nerf yeah, nerfed*
02:26:255 - Might want to cut the LN 02:25:949 (145949|5) - here or add another LN here since the music cuts the guitar thanks for noticing it, applying changes to every difficulty for this section
02:27:786 - Add a note here for vocals? aye, fixed

Might want to add kiai also

00:06:663 - TO 00:35:898 -
01:10:337 - TO 01:29:623 -
01:29:929 - TO 01:30:005 - ( This short Kiai Time is to generate the kiai fountain, it just looks cool )
02:09:112 - TO 02:26:255 -
02:28:704 - TO 02:28:781 - ( This short Kiai Time is to generate the kiai fountain )
Thanks a lot, applying changes very soon. Your deep modding is on par or even better than those as BATS, i'm wondering why you're not one when you have the ability to o.o
- Yuuto -
Hi Kruzon! Here are my mods as requested in my queue...

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

[General]
  1. Timing :
    I think the offset is out of place. I'd suggest you to change the offset to 1766
  2. Background :
    Your background's resolution is not corrected.

    Recommended sizes are :
    -800x600
    -1024x768
    -1366x768
  3. Metadata : Insert the tags
  4. Aimod : Fine
  5. General Setup : Ok
[Hard]
00:10:184 - add note here, I heard a cymbal

  • 00:14:010 - add note
    or
    00:14:929 (14929|1,14929|2) - delete one note
00:16:459 - since the beat is pretty loud and the cymbal is pretty strong, I'd suggest you to add one more note, 3 notes are fine.
00:19:980 - add note for the cymbal
00:22:276 (22276|3,22735|1) - move both to 1, so the 1st columns aren't that empty.
00:24:725 - add note for the snare, just like you did on 00:24:266 (24266|0,24266|1) -
00:38:500 (38500|1) - I think if you remove this the flow will be more neat'd
00:38:806 (38806|4) - move to 7th
00:38:806 (38806|6,41255|6,41255|1,41255|4,41255|5,41868|3,41868|5,41868|1,41868|0,42480|4,42480|5,42480|1,42480|3) - these are sudden three 4 notes. on the previous parts are just have 3 notes, even in the 00:40:796 - that has a loud cymbal, it just has 3 notes. I'd suggest you to delete one of them, so basically it's 3-3-3
00:43:704 - add note
00:44:776 (44776|4) - move to 6 and...
00:44:929 (44929|5) - move to 1
00:45:388 - I think add one more note is fine. since the snare beat is same like 00:45:235 (45235|1,45235|0)
00:50:592 - add note
00:54:419 - ^
01:28:857 (88857|2) - move to 5
01:29:164 (89164|4) - move to 7 so the right right hand isn't that empty
01:29:929 - add note, strong beat
01:39:572 - add note, strng cymbal
02:09:112 - add one or two notes for the loud cymbal
02:27:786 (147786|3) - delete and...
02:28:092 (148092|3) - The synth starts is at 02:27:939 - so lift down the LN and extends up to 02:28:704

[Normal +]
00:10:184 - add note to 7, that has a strong cymbal just like you did on 00:14:929 (14929|1) -
00:15:847 (15847|2) - delete since the sound isn't that loud like 00:16:459 (16459|4,16459|6)
00:18:449 (18449|5) - move to 5
00:26:255 - add 1 note to 7th
00:36:204 (36204|3) - move to 3
00:48:755 (48755|1,48755|4) - two noted notes should be on the snare (the white line)
01:10:337 - add note. very stong part
01:11:408 - add one more note since the cymbal is pretty loud
02:22:735 (142735|3,142735|5) - move to (1,7) to avoid the jack

[Normal]
00:45:388 (45388|4,45541|5,45694|6) - this part is kind of awkward, the left hand is very empty and it's very uncomfortable imo. so I'd suggest you to 00:45:541 (45541|5) - to 1st
00:45:694 - add note here. since the cymbal pretty loud.
01:10:337 - add a note (strong beat)
01:28:704 - add note
01:29:929 - ^
Other elses are fine to me.

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Kruzon

Yuutosan wrote:

Hi Kruzon! Here are my mods as requested in my queue...

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

[General]
  1. Timing :
    I think the offset is out of place. I'd suggest you to change the offset to 1766 the offset i had was obtained from elite time checker, i will keep it as i don't find issue while playing with such offset
  2. Background :
    Your background's resolution is not corrected.
    thank you, i will change it to recommended size soon
    Recommended sizes are :
    -800x600
    -1024x768
    -1366x768
  3. Metadata : Insert the tags
  4. Aimod : Fine
  5. General Setup : Ok
[Hard]
00:10:184 - add note here, I heard a cymbal okay

  • 00:14:010 - add note
    or
    00:14:929 (14929|1,14929|2) - delete one note
fixed
00:16:459 - since the beat is pretty loud and the cymbal is pretty strong, I'd suggest you to add one more note, 3 notes are fine. added a note on 00:16:459 (16459|1) -
00:19:980 - add note for the cymbal no thanks, 2 is enough i suppose
00:22:276 (22276|3,22735|1) - move both to 1, so the 1st columns aren't that empty. true enough, thanks for noticing
00:24:725 - add note for the snare, just like you did on 00:24:266 (24266|0,24266|1) - added, and slight changes on right side pattern
00:38:500 (38500|1) - I think if you remove this the flow will be more neat'd fixed
00:38:806 (38806|4) - move to 7th alright, i suppose i shouldn't use repetitive pattern excessively
00:38:806 (38806|6,41255|6,41255|1,41255|4,41255|5,41868|3,41868|5,41868|1,41868|0,42480|4,42480|5,42480|1,42480|3) - these are sudden three 4 notes. on the previous parts are just have 3 notes, even in the 00:40:796 - that has a loud cymbal, it just has 3 notes. I'd suggest you to delete one of them, so basically it's 3-3-3 the 4 notes patterns were intentionally put, as this 00:40:796 (40796|5,40796|4,40796|1) - mark the start of pattern shift, therefore no changes
00:43:704 - add note added on 00:43:551 (43551|5) -
00:44:776 (44776|4) - move to 6 and... ok
00:44:929 (44929|5) - move to 1 yes, later on i move 00:44:929 (44929|6) - to col 6
00:45:388 - I think add one more note is fine. since the snare beat is same like 00:45:235 (45235|1,45235|0) adding note to it means i had to add 00:45:541 (45541|3) - with one note too, as it share the same snares, i'll think about this
00:50:592 - add note added
00:54:419 - ^ added note to 00:54:419 (54419|4) -
01:28:857 (88857|2) - move to 5 fixed
01:29:164 (89164|4) - move to 7 so the right right hand isn't that empty moved
01:29:929 - add note, strong beat added to 01:29:929 (89929|3) -
01:39:572 - add note, strong cymbal added to 01:39:572 (99572|5) -
02:09:112 - add one or two notes for the loud cymbal added to 02:09:112 (129112|5) -
02:27:786 (147786|3) - delete and... this is vocal note, i intend to leave it be
02:28:092 (148092|3) - The synth starts is at 02:27:939 - so lift down the LN and extends up to 02:28:704 no thanks

[Normal +]
00:10:184 - add note to 7, that has a strong cymbal just like you did on 00:14:929 (14929|1) - i moved it to 6 instead and did minor changes on lower part pattern for 7th column instead
00:15:847 (15847|2) - delete since the sound isn't that loud like 00:16:459 (16459|4,16459|6) i delete column 1 note instead
00:18:449 (18449|5) - move to 5 i see your point, moved to 5
00:26:255 - add 1 note to 7th added
00:36:204 (36204|3) - move to 3 moved
00:48:755 (48755|1,48755|4) - two noted notes should be on the snare (the white line) fixed
01:10:337 - add note. very strong part added
01:11:408 - add one more note since the cymbal is pretty loud added
02:22:735 (142735|3,142735|5) - move to (1,7) to avoid the jack i just move 1 note to column 3 instead

[Normal]
00:45:388 (45388|4,45541|5,45694|6) - this part is kind of awkward, the left hand is very empty and it's very uncomfortable imo. so I'd suggest you to 00:45:541 (45541|5) - to 1st sure
00:45:694 - add note here. since the cymbal pretty loud. okay
01:10:337 - add a note (strong beat) okay
01:28:704 - add note added
01:29:929 - ^ added
Other elses are fine to me.

Good luck!
Thank you :)
RuberusuScarlet
hi ~

from my queue

sorry, i can't 7K mod

but…metadate check is done.

Title : セルリアン
Romanised title : Cerulean
Source : Gundam Build Fighters Try

tag : ガンダムビルドファイターズトライ anime opening

good luck >w< /
Topic Starter
Kruzon

ruberusu wrote:

hi ~

from my queue

sorry, i can't 7K mod

but…metadate check is done.

Title : セルリアン
Romanised title : Cerulean
Source : Gundam Build Fighters Try

tag : ガンダムビルドファイターズトライ anime opening

good luck >w< /
thank you c:
Zan-
from raika's queue

as you said top priority is Normal, so i just mod normal and its already a long mod tho
ok it will be long mod, bcs it needs better consistensy

mod
[Normal]
00:24:419 (24419|5) - no sound, remove
00:24:878 (24878|5) - ^

00:23:806 - since ^those are deleted, suggestion --> http://puu.sh/dIN26/af94862258.jpg | it more fit

00:25:184 (25184|3,25796|5) - cant get what these LN for, get rid those LN and here suggestion --> http://puu.sh/dIN49/4a07b0fa66.png

00:26:255 - add note, loud guitar, cymbal sounds

need to add more notes for consistency~:
00:26:561 - add note (snare)
00:27:174 - ^
00:27:786 - ^
00:28:398 - ^
00:29:010 - ^
00:29:623 - ^
00:30:235 - ^
00:32:072 - ^
00:33:908 - ^
00:34:521 - ^
00:35:133 - ^
00:35:439 - ^
00:35:745 - ^
00:36:357 - ^
00:38:806 - ^
00:40:643 - ^
00:41:255 - ^
00:43:092 - ^
00:43:704 - ^
00:44:317 - ^
00:45:388 - ^
00:46:153 - ^
00:47:990 - ^
00:48:602 - ^
00:50:439 - ^
00:51:051 - ^
00:52:888 - ^
00:54:112 - ^
01:08:500 - ^
01:10:643 - ^
01:11:255 - ^
01:11:868 - ^
01:13:092 - ^
01:13:704 - ^
01:15:541 - ^
01:16:153 - ^
01:20:439 - ^
01:22:276 - ^
01:22:888 - ^
01:23:500 - ^
01:25:337 - ^
01:25:949 - ^
01:26:561 - ^
01:27:174 - ^
01:35:133 - ^
01:37:123 - ^
01:39:419 - ^
01:40:031 - ^
01:40:643 - ^
01:41:255 - ^
01:41:868 - ^
01:43:092 - ^
01:46:766 - ^
01:47:990 - ^
01:48:602 - ^
01:49:215 - ^
01:52:276 - ^
01:52:888 - ^
01:53:500 - ^
01:53:806 - ^
01:57:480 - ^
01:59:164 - ^
02:00:388 - ^
02:01:612 - ^
02:02:378 - ^
02:04:215 - ^
02:09:112 - ^
02:09:419 - ^
02:10:031 - ^
02:11:255 - ^
02:12:480 - ^
02:13:092 - ^
02:13:704 - ^
02:14:317 - ^
02:15:541 - ^
02:16:153 - ^
02:17:990 - ^
02:18:908 - ^
02:20:439 - ^
02:21:051 - ^
02:22:276 - ^
02:22:888 - ^
02:24:725 - ^
02:25:337 - ^
02:25:949 - ^

now removing notes:
00:32:225 (32225|1) -
00:48:755 (48755|4) -
00:49:980 (49980|0) -
00:53:041 (53041|4) -
00:55:337 (55337|0) -
00:57:633 (57633|5,57633|1) -
01:05:133 (65133|0) -
01:26:102 (86102|5) -
01:29:164 (89164|0) -
01:34:827 (94827|6,94827|0) -
01:42:021 (102021|0) -
01:46:919 (106919|4) -
01:53:959 (113959|0) -

now LN placement:
00:55:490 (55490|1) - stop at 00:55:949 -
then 00:56:102 (56102|5) - start at 00:55:949 - stop at 00:56:255 -
then add LN start at 00:56:255 - stop at 00:56:715 -
^for vocal

00:56:868 (56868|3) - start at 00:56:715 -

01:08:959 (68959|5) - stop at 01:09:266 -

01:29:164 (89164|3,89317|1) - aaaaaa i cant get these LN, remove then
suggestion --> http://puu.sh/dIPuf/2131553ad0.png

01:36:970 (96970|4) - start at 01:37:123 -

01:54:419 (114419|2,115031|4,116255|4) - suggest to remove, catch nothing

01:59:164 (119164|2) - just stop at 01:59:929 - like 02:00:388 (120388|4) -

02:09:112 (129112|3) - stop at 02:10:184 - (Guitar)

02:10:643 (130643|5,131561|1,131868|5) - idk

gl. ask me in-game if there are something you want to ask
Topic Starter
Kruzon

Zan - wrote:

from raika's queue

as you said top priority is Normal, so i just mod normal and its already a long mod tho
ok it will be long mod, bcs it needs better consistensy

mod
[Normal]
00:24:419 (24419|5) - no sound, remove fixed
00:24:878 (24878|5) - ^ fixed

00:23:806 - since ^those are deleted, suggestion --> http://puu.sh/dIN26/af94862258.jpg | it more fit umm, those pattern does not represents any sound, therefore no change

00:25:184 (25184|3,25796|5) - cant get what these LN for, get rid those LN and here suggestion --> http://puu.sh/dIN49/4a07b0fa66.png
no change
00:26:255 - add note, loud guitar, cymbal sounds but then if i do it that way this 00:26:561 (26561|2) - actually sound louder than that, hence no change

need to add more notes for consistency~:
00:26:561 - add note (snare)
00:27:174 - ^
00:27:786 - ^
00:28:398 - ^
00:29:010 - ^
00:29:623 - ^
00:30:235 - ^
00:32:072 - ^
00:33:908 - ^
00:34:521 - ^
00:35:133 - ^
00:35:439 - ^
00:35:745 - ^
00:36:357 - ^
00:38:806 - ^
00:40:643 - ^
00:41:255 - ^
00:43:092 - ^
00:43:704 - ^
00:44:317 - ^
00:45:388 - ^
00:46:153 - ^
00:47:990 - ^
00:48:602 - ^
00:50:439 - ^
00:51:051 - ^
00:52:888 - ^
00:54:112 - ^
01:08:500 - ^
01:10:643 - ^
01:11:255 - ^
01:11:868 - ^
01:13:092 - ^
01:13:704 - ^
01:15:541 - ^
01:16:153 - ^
01:20:439 - ^
01:22:276 - ^
01:22:888 - ^
01:23:500 - ^
01:25:337 - ^
01:25:949 - ^
01:26:561 - ^
01:27:174 - ^
01:35:133 - ^
01:37:123 - ^
01:39:419 - ^
01:40:031 - ^
01:40:643 - ^
01:41:255 - ^
01:41:868 - ^
01:43:092 - ^
01:46:766 - ^
01:47:990 - ^
01:48:602 - ^
01:49:215 - ^
01:52:276 - ^
01:52:888 - ^
01:53:500 - ^
01:53:806 - ^
01:57:480 - ^
01:59:164 - ^
02:00:388 - ^
02:01:612 - ^
02:02:378 - ^
02:04:215 - ^
02:09:112 - ^
02:09:419 - ^
02:10:031 - ^
02:11:255 - ^
02:12:480 - ^
02:13:092 - ^
02:13:704 - ^
02:14:317 - ^
02:15:541 - ^
02:16:153 - ^
02:17:990 - ^
02:18:908 - ^
02:20:439 - ^
02:21:051 - ^
02:22:276 - ^
02:22:888 - ^
02:24:725 - ^
02:25:337 - ^
02:25:949 - ^

now removing notes:
00:32:225 (32225|1) -
00:48:755 (48755|4) - fixed
00:49:980 (49980|0) - fixed
00:53:041 (53041|4) - fixed
00:55:337 (55337|0) - i will keep it to emphasize loudness
00:57:633 (57633|5,57633|1) - instead i move them behind by 1/2 beat
01:05:133 (65133|0) - i noticed something to change instead, and do major changes around the vicinity
01:26:102 (86102|5) - there's loud bang here, i kept the 2 notes
01:29:164 (89164|0) - i keep it
01:34:827 (94827|6,94827|0) -
01:42:021 (102021|0) -
01:46:919 (106919|4) -
01:53:959 (113959|0) -

now LN placement:
00:55:490 (55490|1) - stop at 00:55:949 - thank you for noticing it, fixed
then 00:56:102 (56102|5) - start at 00:55:949 - stop at 00:56:255 - it represents vocal note, not removed
then add LN start at 00:56:255 - stop at 00:56:715 -
^for vocal it feels like the vocal starts on 00:56:102 (56102|5) -

00:56:868 (56868|3) - start at 00:56:715 - fixed, thanks

01:08:959 (68959|5) - stop at 01:09:266 - nay

01:29:164 (89164|3,89317|1) - aaaaaa i cant get these LN, remove then
suggestion --> http://puu.sh/dIPuf/2131553ad0.png hmm.. i will re-consider because your pattern is good too but the current pattern has meaning too

01:36:970 (96970|4) - start at 01:37:123 - i am positive it started on current time

01:54:419 (114419|2,115031|4,116255|4) - suggest to remove, catch nothing those 2 are vocal notes, apparently

01:59:164 (119164|2) - just stop at 01:59:929 - like 02:00:388 (120388|4) - fixed, thanks

02:09:112 (129112|3) - stop at 02:10:184 - (Guitar) agreed, fixed

02:10:643 (130643|5,131561|1,131868|5) - idk 02:10:643 (130643|5,131561|1) - have obvious meaning representing ascending vocal however 02:11:868 (131868|5) - does feel awkward since it didn't match the vocal, i will think something about it

gl. ask me in-game if there are something you want to ask
-my difficulties are spreaded into 3, which is normal has the least double notes and mostly single-note chords, while normal+ starts to increase in notes density- therefore i had to keep most of them

-however, your modding has let me realized many mistake, especially misplaced long notes which i am grateful for your helps
-i greatly appreciate your long mod, i thank you for your help :)
Elementaires
SPOILER
2014-12-25 15:42 Kruzon: hello elementaires, im sorry to bug you but could you help me testplay a map?
2014-12-25 15:43 Elementaires: sure
2014-12-25 15:43 Elementaires: :)
2014-12-25 15:43 Kruzon: thanks a bunch
2014-12-25 15:44 Kruzon: help me test this on hard difficulty
2014-12-25 15:44 Kruzon: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/570142 BACK-ON - Cerulean]
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: i like it :D
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: but idk if somethings wrong but my accuracy was shit
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: hmm
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: no
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: do you feel anything wrong with offset?
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: yeah
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: no
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: haha
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: insane not yet
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: wtf
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: xD
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: haha
2014-12-25 15:49 Kruzon: no dont
2014-12-25 15:49 Kruzon: those are intentionally
2014-12-25 15:49 Kruzon: for trolling
2014-12-25 15:50 Kruzon: hmm about hard, is there specific part that throw you off? something imbalance perhaps
2014-12-25 15:51 Elementaires: yeah
2014-12-25 15:51 Elementaires: if i remember right
2014-12-25 15:51 Elementaires: wait
2014-12-25 15:52 Elementaires: 00:26:868 -
2014-12-25 15:52 Elementaires: i think the LN here are unbalanced
2014-12-25 15:52 Kruzon: hmmm
2014-12-25 15:52 Kruzon: lemme fix it
2014-12-25 15:53 Kruzon: 00:26:868 (26868|5) - represents vocal, if i need to move, i will have to move other long notes around it
2014-12-25 15:55 Elementaires: yes but
2014-12-25 15:55 Elementaires: the last LN is hard for players
2014-12-25 15:55 Elementaires: its uncomfortable
2014-12-25 15:55 Kruzon: what do you think if i changed 00:26:868 (26868|2,27174|3,27327|6,27786|3,28092|6) - to single notes?
2014-12-25 15:56 Kruzon: if it still feels uncomfortable, i will remove the long notes and brainstorm different pattern
2014-12-25 15:57 Elementaires: yeah with singles notes it feel a lot more comfortable and "Hard"
2014-12-25 15:58 Kruzon: while i'm at it, i made 00:28:704 (28704|2,29010|4,29317|2) - single notes too as comfort zone
Topic Starter
Kruzon

Elementaires wrote:

SPOILER
2014-12-25 15:42 Kruzon: hello elementaires, im sorry to bug you but could you help me testplay a map?
2014-12-25 15:43 Elementaires: sure
2014-12-25 15:43 Elementaires: :)
2014-12-25 15:43 Kruzon: thanks a bunch
2014-12-25 15:44 Kruzon: help me test this on hard difficulty
2014-12-25 15:44 Kruzon: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/570142 BACK-ON - Cerulean]
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: i like it :D
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: but idk if somethings wrong but my accuracy was shit
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: hmm
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: no
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: do you feel anything wrong with offset?
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: yeah
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: no
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: haha
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: insane not yet
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: wtf
2014-12-25 15:48 Elementaires: xD
2014-12-25 15:48 Kruzon: haha
2014-12-25 15:49 Kruzon: no dont
2014-12-25 15:49 Kruzon: those are intentionally
2014-12-25 15:49 Kruzon: for trolling
2014-12-25 15:50 Kruzon: hmm about hard, is there specific part that throw you off? something imbalance perhaps
2014-12-25 15:51 Elementaires: yeah
2014-12-25 15:51 Elementaires: if i remember right
2014-12-25 15:51 Elementaires: wait
2014-12-25 15:52 Elementaires: 00:26:868 -
2014-12-25 15:52 Elementaires: i think the LN here are unbalanced
2014-12-25 15:52 Kruzon: hmmm
2014-12-25 15:52 Kruzon: lemme fix it
2014-12-25 15:53 Kruzon: 00:26:868 (26868|5) - represents vocal, if i need to move, i will have to move other long notes around it
2014-12-25 15:55 Elementaires: yes but
2014-12-25 15:55 Elementaires: the last LN is hard for players
2014-12-25 15:55 Elementaires: its uncomfortable
2014-12-25 15:55 Kruzon: what do you think if i changed 00:26:868 (26868|2,27174|3,27327|6,27786|3,28092|6) - to single notes?
2014-12-25 15:56 Kruzon: if it still feels uncomfortable, i will remove the long notes and brainstorm different pattern
2014-12-25 15:57 Elementaires: yeah with singles notes it feel a lot more comfortable and "Hard"
2014-12-25 15:58 Kruzon: while i'm at it, i made 00:28:704 (28704|2,29010|4,29317|2) - single notes too as comfort zone
thank you ;)
Starry-
Hi! From irc~

[General]

Timing:
  1. Offset needs to be a little later imo. We're looking at the 6680~6700 region. Maybe
Audio:
BG:
Metadata:
Preview Point:
AiMod:
  1. Tags/Metadata conflict, maybe you didn't add the correct metadata to all diffs.
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| 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | (7K)

[Hard]
SPOILER
Can be a bit more consistent in places.
00:05:240 (5240|3) - Move to red tick.
00:06:388 (6388) I feel like the vocal here should be expressed with another LN.
00:09:143 (9143|2) - Add at 6, inconsistent.
Barely any notes here at column 6, maybe move 00:12:204 (12204|5) - to 6.
00:14:959 (14959|3,15725|3) - Spacebar feels cluttered. Maybe move:
00:14:041 (14041|5,14500|4,14959|3) - Shift right by 1.
00:13:735 (13735|6) - Move to 5 or 4.

00:25:521 (25521|5) - I don't think this LN is necessary, maybe make a normal note and put at 6.

00:33:633 (33633|1) - Barely any notes at column 0, mote to 0.
00:35:316 (35316|5,35470|4,35470|3) - Shift right one, too cluttered.

00:45:265 (45265|1,45265|0,45418|1,45418|2,45572|3,45572|2) - Spread these out, too hard. Or maybe; 00:45:418 (45418|2,45418|1) - CTRL H.

01:16:184 (76184|3,76184|4,76337|4,76337|5,76643|2,76643|1,76796|1,76796|0) - Spread out.. Don't really fit imo.
----> FROM THIS POINT: 01:25:674 (85674|0) - No notes at column 0. Spread things out.

01:54:296 (114296|0,114296|5) - Not audible enough for 2 notes.

Main problem in this mapset is just inconsistencies and spreading out your notes. Hopefully they can be fixed soon <3

[NM]
SPOILER
OKAY. I looked here 5 seconds and found:

00:18:755 (18755|0) TO 00:27:786 (27786|0) - No notes in column 0 in between these.

The problem isn't mapping style since these are actually quite good. It's just fixing those inconsistencies.

Yep nothing much else to say really. Nice map, just fix the inconsistent things. Goodluck <3
Topic Starter
Kruzon

Starry- wrote:

Hi! From irc~

[General]

Timing:
  1. Offset needs to be a little later imo. We're looking at the 6680~6700 region. Maybe
changed to 5470, it feels a lot better now
Audio:
BG:
Metadata:
Preview Point:
AiMod:
  1. Tags/Metadata conflict, maybe you didn't add the correct metadata to all diffs.
fixed, it was due to preview points lol

 ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___  
| 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | (7K)

[Hard]
SPOILER
Can be a bit more consistent in places.
00:05:240 (5240|3) - Move to red tick. fixed, thanks
00:06:388 (6388) I feel like the vocal here should be expressed with another LN. made 00:06:694 (6694|2) - into a long note
00:09:143 (9143|2) - Add at 6, inconsistent. added
Barely any notes here at column 6, maybe move 00:12:204 (12204|5) - to 6. got it
00:14:959 (14959|3,15725|3) - Spacebar feels cluttered. Maybe move:
00:14:041 (14041|5,14500|4,14959|3) - Shift right by 1. fixed
00:13:735 (13735|6) - Move to 5 or 4. moved to 5

00:25:521 (25521|5) - I don't think this LN is necessary, maybe make a normal note and put at 6. fixed, and while im at it I moved 00:25:674 (25674|4) - to 5

00:33:633 (33633|1) - Barely any notes at column 0, mote to 0. fixed, and modified several notes around the vicinity for stability
00:35:316 (35316|5,35470|4,35470|3) - Shift right one, too cluttered. shifted

00:45:265 (45265|1,45265|0,45418|1,45418|2,45572|3,45572|2) - Spread these out, too hard. Or maybe; 00:45:418 (45418|2,45418|1) - CTRL H.
i ctrl+h'ed it instead, and i ctrl h these also 00:45:725 (45725|2,45878|3,46031|4) -

01:16:184 (76184|3,76184|4,76337|4,76337|5,76643|2,76643|1,76796|1,76796|0) - Spread out.. Don't really fit imo. fixed
----> FROM THIS POINT: 01:25:674 (85674|0) - No notes at column 0. Spread things out. umm, i'll reconsider this part

01:54:296 (114296|0,114296|5) - Not audible enough for 2 notes. i see your point, fixed

Main problem in this mapset is just inconsistencies and spreading out your notes. Hopefully they can be fixed soon <3 trying my best to make it consistent, pain in the ass but no pain no gain

[NM]
SPOILER
OKAY. I looked here 5 seconds and found:

00:18:755 (18755|0) TO 00:27:786 (27786|0) - No notes in column 0 in between these. um should i removed notes on 0 or add? lol

The problem isn't mapping style since these are actually quite good. It's just fixing those inconsistencies.

Yep nothing much else to say really. Nice map, just fix the inconsistent things. Goodluck <3
thank you starry for your helps, appreciate it :)
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