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Qrispy Joybox - licca

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Frey
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Frey
._ . nvm, I'm always a baka
Epic_old_1
Epic_old_1
Oh my diff is still alive www
asher
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Joined September 2013
asher

BAN Forever wrote:

Oh my diff is still alive www
RIP Fortune's other alt 2015-2015
Frey
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Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
Frey

BAN Forever wrote:

Oh my diff is still alive www
...fortune!! ;w;
Avishay
1,250 posts
Joined April 2013
Avishay
I might be a bit late, but..

[Ultra]
  1. 01:26:346 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Why did the spacing here get relatively small compared to 01:06:754 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - ? They are priti (heh) much the same but the spacing is so different and well it felt kinda awkward to play, you might want to make the NC pattern the same.
:roll:
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena

Avishay wrote:

I might be a bit late, but..

[Ultra]
  1. 01:26:346 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Why did the spacing here get relatively small compared to 01:06:754 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - ? They are priti (heh) much the same but the spacing is so different and well it felt kinda awkward to play, you might want to make the NC pattern the same.
:roll:
intensity gets lowered.
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
lick a
Avishay
1,250 posts
Joined April 2013
Avishay

Priti wrote:

Avishay wrote:

I might be a bit late, but..

[Ultra]
  1. 01:26:346 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Why did the spacing here get relatively small compared to 01:06:754 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - ? They are priti (heh) much the same but the spacing is so different and well it felt kinda awkward to play, you might want to make the NC pattern the same.
:roll:
intensity gets lowered.
wat. they're the goddamn same.. not sure who's the deaf one.
ZZHBOY
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Joined April 2012
ZZHBOY
晚点来
Frey
1,205 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
Frey

ZZHBOY wrote:

晚点来
厚啊
Frim4503
2,067 posts
Joined July 2013
Frim4503
still waiting for this map :)
ZZHBOY
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ZZHBOY
Go
Frey
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Topic Starter
Frey

ZZHBOY wrote:

Go
forgot to remind you ;w; thank u very much
HootOwlStar
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HootOwlStar
哇 rank了 gratz哦
wantuol
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wantuol
我裤子都干了
Flask
Beatmap Nominator
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Flask
恭喜~
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
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Joined February 2009
Loctav
Hello!

unfortunately, we have to disqualify this set again, as its quality is not meeting our expectations for letting this into the Ranked section, yet. Please consider the points below as reason for the disqualification:

[Priti's Ultra]
Personal opinion: Maybe AR 9,3 would've sufficed? It's not that dense and not that of a fast bpm that you really need AR9,6 in my honest opinion.

We observed that this difficulty tries to exceed everything the music has to offer, in terms of placing hitobjects on the timeline. This is fine and valid. Anyways, the beginning section of the song requires an entire overhaul. We see no warrant to place 1/4 jumps at all in this section, and therefore they appear as forced and needlessly difficult to us. We also observed a very weird way of the New Combo usage, generally being overused. This probably results out of the extreme patterning, that requires NCs to make the pattern more distinguishable and readable. Along with that, we would like to point out that several patterns are very flawed and needs to be redone, so they play in a more proper and predictable way. Some movements casted by the patterns were flawed by weird spacing or weird and unexpected forth-back movements that contradicted the previous patterning before. Moreover, some patterns exceed the musical sample theyy try to follow. As patterns - to stay predictable - should conclude along with musical samples together, some patterns managed it to exceed these samples and therefore started to appear random.
In general, we would advise you to tone down the spacing and placements of this mapset overall. We consider the extremeness of the spacing and other mapping techniques as exaggerated to a degree that we can not accept that. We would love to see this diff to be overally toned down, as the more dense note placement already increases the difficulty sufficiently - therefore an more extreme spacing like that is not really required for a proper playing experience.
Examples for the above criticism:
00:00:631 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
00:07:367 (4,5) -
00:22:672 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1) -
01:00:632 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
01:05:529 (1,2,3,4) -
01:06:142 (1,2,3,4) -
01:06:754 (1,2,3,4) -
01:07:366 (1,2,3,4) -

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All remaining difficulties were really enjoyable and we liked them a lot. However, please make sure to adjust your mapset accordingly to the above provided reason. Keep in mind that we are filing general criticism and improvement advises, so the above reason applies to more than just the provided examples. Whenever your mapset received further revision and improvement, the Beatmap Nominators will furtherly take care of that mapset.
Enon
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Enon
what the
Yauxo
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Joined June 2011
Yauxo

Loctav wrote:

00:00:631 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
00:07:367 (4,5) -
00:22:672 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1) -
01:00:632 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
01:05:529 (1,2,3,4) -
01:06:142 (1,2,3,4) -
01:06:754 (1,2,3,4) -
01:07:366 (1,2,3,4) -
Im sorry, but some of the examples youve given make sense and play actually pretty well. These below really shouldnt an example of "what's bad"
- 00:00:631 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Anything in here (besides 00:00:631 (1,2) - ) is smooth to play. There is no forceful movement or anything. THere might be some things you could move a tiny bit to let the objects catch the fast movement better, but nothing that'd force you to cramp your hand

yay images







- 00:22:672 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1) - The first three (00:22:672 (1,1,1) - ) do great work by supporting the heavy bass, the next two (00:23:285 (1,2) - ) support the sudden, well, call it "extra bass" after the third initial bass with a speedup/jumplike movement, and the last two (00:23:438 (2,1) - ) act exactly like the first three.

- 01:00:632 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is probably the most basic pattern in the mentioned examples. The only flaw I'd see there is that Priti couldve mapped the second combo with less spacing so that it'd suit the pitch more

- 01:05:529 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These work perfectly with the pitch. The first 4 are all upbeat and they're represented that way - they go up. The second 4 all have less spacing for each circle. They're also stacked with the previous 4, since it's basically the same beat.

___________

On the other hand, I'll have to agree with these mentioned, even though the jumps (after 1:06) are somewhat understandable, as this is the second extra in the set. A nerf would still be recommended, as the pitch is kinda low compared to other sections of the song.
00:07:367 (4,5) - (this one is bs, I cant go against that)
01:06:754 (1,2,3,4) -
01:07:366 (1,2,3,4) -

diffcalc for those curious

I feel like things get more subjective each day. If someone wants to make a "guide to a high quality map", please go ahead and do so. I'd love to see one, because all of these "quality issue" dq's are difficult to predict.

my2tinycents
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
I am not going to remap something that is completely fine and enjoyable as it is.
Frey, you have my permission to remove the Ultra from your set if it can't be ranked as it currently is.
Frey
1,205 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
Frey

Priti wrote:

I am not going to remap something that is completely fine and enjoyable as it is.
Frey, you have my permission to remove the Ultra from your set if it can't be ranked as it currently is.
...
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
I take it back lol, Here's the salt-free version of what I have to say about the mod
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Title:licca
TitleUnicode:licca
Artist:Qrispy Joybox
ArtistUnicode:Qrispy Joybox
Creator:Frey
Version:Priti's Ultra
Source:REFLEC BEAT groovin'!!
Tags:Priti Fortune orza6006 Mei Tatsuya Iyama 伊山達也
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170,263,102876,6,2,L|174:237,14,26.25,0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
155,278,103489,6,0,P|175:338|209:373,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
443,215,103795,2,0,P|429:265|396:306,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,72,104101,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,72,104254,2,0,L|441:82,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,154,104560,2,0,L|176:144,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
351,236,104866,5,0,0:0:0:0:
320,232,104943,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,227,105019,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,281,105172,1,0,0:0:0:0:
0,83,105325,6,0,L|14:12,1,70,4|4,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
133,35,105529,1,4,0:2:0:0:
133,35,105632,6,0,L|147:106,1,70,4|4,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
261,60,105836,1,4,0:2:0:0:
261,60,105938,6,0,P|327:51|392:80,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
474,250,106244,2,0,P|388:275|347:274,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
229,228,106550,1,2,0:0:0:0:
32,180,106703,2,0,L|44:308,1,105,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
219,123,107009,1,8,0:0:0:0:
Frey
1,205 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
Frey
updated
Yauxo
1,622 posts
Joined June 2011
Yauxo

Priti wrote:

I take it back lol, Here's the salt-free version of what I have to say about the mod
that was fast
Frey
1,205 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
Frey

Yauxo wrote:

Priti wrote:

I take it back lol, Here's the salt-free version of what I have to say about the mod
that was fast
Deleted the intro and used a spinner instead, also fixed the NC problem, no wonder that was fast.

There is still something to polish, it can take some time but not much.
Jacob
77 posts
Joined June 2013
Jacob
rip ultra
ZZHBOY
1,649 posts
Joined April 2012
ZZHBOY

Frey wrote:

Deleted the intro and used a spinner instead, also fixed the NC problem, no wonder that was fast.

There is still something to polish, it can take some time but not much.
call me back then
Frey
1,205 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
Frey

ZZHBOY wrote:

Frey wrote:

Deleted the intro and used a spinner instead, also fixed the NC problem, no wonder that was fast.

There is still something to polish, it can take some time but not much.
call me back then
Yes :D
Manolift
42 posts
Joined May 2013
Manolift

Yauxo wrote:

Loctav wrote:


Can someone give me a link to the application please? :)
Kiyohime
30 posts
Joined December 2014
Kiyohime

Yauxo wrote:

I feel like things get more subjective each day. If someone wants to make a "guide to a high quality map", please go ahead and do so. I'd love to see one, because all of these "quality issue" dq's are difficult to predict.
It's like playing the lottery; you never know when you're gonna be a winner.
[ D_L ]
9 posts
Joined September 2013
[ D_L ]
for me it is sad to see the first part of the map is gone
do you have a copy of the old map?
i would like to save it and fc in the future
Frey
1,205 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
Frey

[ D_L ] wrote:

for me it is sad to see the first part of the map is gone
do you have a copy of the old map?
i would like to save it and fc in the future
Search for the previous posts in this thread, there are some posts of Priti with osu file.
Cherry Blossom
3,185 posts
Joined October 2011
Cherry Blossom
Well, as requested by Frey, i'll insult give contructive comments and suggestion that could be improve Ultra.


  • First, there is something really noticeable, and questionable. The difficulty difference between the kiai part and the other parts is really huge.
    Kiai part is difficult to handle if you're not a top play or a good jump player. When the other parts are easy to FC.
    This difficulty difference make this map a little frustrating to play because when playing the beginning, the player will say, awh it's difficult but handleable, and when he starts playing the kiai, he could say "OMG THESE JUMPS ARE UNEXPECTED. I Agree with Loctav, these patterns are a little overdone. At least, try to reduce this large difficulty gap between these parts.
  1. 00:14:713 (8,1) - This looks a little confusing because the player expects that there is a 1/2 gap between these objects, and the distance between is them is close. There should be a higher distance between them.
  2. 00:30:019 (1,2,3) - There should be a higher distance between them too, the next patterns like this are more distant. It could be better if you keep consistency.
  3. 00:59:101 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - It could be better if you use some slider to make this part less difficult concerning note density, and also less heavy and more enjoyable. As you did here 01:18:999 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - for example.
ZZHBOY
1,649 posts
Joined April 2012
ZZHBOY
for Frey's checking request.
no kd.

priti

  1. 00:07:366 (1,2,3) - why these three circle have different placing? stack is awful here, placing them regularly plz
  2. 00:08:590 (3,4,5,2) - unreasonable overlap, move them away plz
  3. 00:29:407 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - these 1/4 circles are sick for playing, plz placing them regularly
  4. 01:00:172 (2,3,4) - can you get no miss here? if no, please set them more playable
  5. 01:03:540 (4,1) - no reason for this big jump, move them closer plz
  6. 01:04:764 (5,1,2,3,4) - i can't agree with this placing, it made a bad flow, try to polish placing here
  7. 01:06:295 (2,3) - ctrl+g for better playing feeling
  8. 01:06:754 (1,2,3,4) - meaningless jump, move them closer plz
  9. 01:30:019 - I hate let strong beat on slider's end. change rhythm here to avoid that
  10. 01:32:315 (1) - ^
  11. 01:34:764 (1) - ^
  12. 01:40:427 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - these big spacing 1/3 circles are horrible, change them to reverse slider or make them same as 01:45:325 (1) -
  13. 01:25:121 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - bad flow and looks ugly, also 01:26:193 (4,1) - are too far, you can change placing here
at the end, one thing most important i have to say is stupid jumps in KIAI parts. first, they have worst flow, maybe your playing technical can't teach you how to set appropriate jumping placing, so maybe you haven't to do it. also, they always overlap with previous notes, then caused it's hard to read when normal player playing. these do harm to your diff, also to this song.
please, fixed all words i said and improve to a proper level, or request Frey remove your diff, or ask Frey to find another BN
one thing i have to notice is i have no bad thought to creator of this diff.I have only to apologize to you if I said something against your thought of mapping but i can't let this low quality map get ranked for duty of a BN.
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
No.
Simply no.
I won't even bother replying to these mods.
Just remove my diff..

External Download: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/307837
Cherry Blossom
3,185 posts
Joined October 2011
Cherry Blossom
Just why did you deny kds ?
ZZHBOY and I spent time looking at this map, and tried to help you. Even if you will not look at our mods, the only thing you could just do is giving a kd, not denying it.
Awh well, it's just a kd....
Deif
Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon
3,564 posts
Joined April 2010
Deif
Gave the kds back to CB and ZZHBOY. Though I must admit ZZHBOY's tone of delivery in that mod isn't the best, he tried to help as well and therefore the kds is worth it.

Talked to Priti online, and he won't add his diff back. You guys are free to bubble if everything else is okay.

@Frey: Remove "Priti" from tags, please!
Cherry Blossom
3,185 posts
Joined October 2011
Cherry Blossom
No kd.

General

  1. Unused files, remove them :
    - soft-hitclap7.wav
    - drum-hitclap7.wav
    - drum-hitwhistle7.wav

6006's Hard

  1. 01:04:305 - missing finish ?

Insane


  • HP7 ? this looks a little too much for this diff, reduce to 6 or 6.5.
  1. 00:22:366 (7) - is this supposed to be 1/3 like the other diffs ? 1/4 works well here though. Same for 01:40:734 (6) - and 01:45:632 (6) -

Call me back.
Frey
1,205 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
Frey

Cherry Blossom wrote:

No kd.

General

  1. Unused files, remove them :
    - soft-hitclap7.wav
    - drum-hitclap7.wav
    - drum-hitwhistle7.wav

Fixed

6006's Hard

  1. 01:04:305 - missing finish ?

Fixed

Insane


  • HP7 ? this looks a little too much for this diff, reduce to 6 or 6.5.

    Fixed. 6.5 instead
  1. 00:22:366 (7) - is this supposed to be 1/3 like the other diffs ? 1/4 works well here though. Same for 01:40:734 (6) - and 01:45:632 (6) -

    I know it's werid, but following the piano sound isn't a wrong choose.

Call me back.
Thanks for modding! :)
Cherry Blossom
3,185 posts
Joined October 2011
Cherry Blossom
Rebubbled.
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