This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 08 de mayo de 2010 at 08:30:04 p.m.

Artist: Jason Derulo ft. Imogen Heap
Title: Whatcha Say
Tags: Rap R&B Fun EEeee
BPM: 144
Filesize: 13650kb
Play Time: 03:36
Difficulties Available:

1. EEeee's Insane (4,87 stars, 484 notes)
2. Hard (4,26 stars, 202 notes)
3. Hard+ (4,82 stars, 498 notes)
4. Normal (2,76 stars, 92 notes)

Download: Jason Derulo ft. Imogen Heap - Whatcha Say
Download: Jason Derulo ft. Imogen Heap - Whatcha Say (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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11/03/2010 : Terminado el nivel Hard, Agregado Hitsounds.

12/03/2010 : Comenzando Nivel Normal.

15/03/2010 : Agregado Hitsounds Nivel Normal, Aun no terminado.

20/03/2010 : Terminado el Nivel Normal. Agregado Hitsounds. Correcciones de dlguiga terminadas.

23/03/2010 : Correcciones de Gens terminadas.

6/04/2010 : Correcciones de j35u5891221 terminadas. Agregado : Nueva Dificultad! [EEeee] Thanks.

7/04/2010 : Agregado : Skin para la cancion, Nuevo Fondo de Pantalla [Actualizado]

10/04/2010 : Nuevo Clap Agregado y Dificultad [EEeee] Terminada.

11/04/2010 : Correcciones de Beuchi-chan Terminadas. Correciones de Card N'FoRcE terminadas.

14/04/2010 : El map ahora es Pending, Combo Mod Gens corregido.

19/04/2010 : Correciones de ShaggoN y Doomsday93 Terminados. Cambio de Nombre de los niveles.

23/04/2010 : Cambio de Nombre de los niveles. Y Arreglos en [EEeee's Insane]

24/04/2010 : Correciones de abalee Terminadas.

1/05/2010 : Correcciones de Mianki Terminadas.

3/05/2010 : Correcciones de Bassmaster & xxheroxx Terminadas.

4/05/2010 : Correcciones de Colin Hou Terminadas.

8/05/2010 : Debido a problemas con Gladi, Se a quitado el skin y los combo colours! Vamos por el Rank!

ñdrbgfgsjgfdfhd GOZADERA MAP

Buen mapa

recuerda correjir lo que te dije

starrr

General:

You can remove those tags, since they are already in the song name, song artist and map creator >_>
The easiest difficulty is 4.34 stars. Could you make an easier diff?

Normal:
00:36:933 (3) - Move it one tiny grid down
00:54:433 (3) - Spacing
01:16:308 (1) - Stack it under (7)?
01:19:225 (5) - ^ (under 5)
01:34:850 (3,4,5) - ^
01:50:266 (3) - ^
02:02:558 (3,4) - ^

Nice diff. !

Hard:
00:09:850 (7) - Stack under (5)?
00:30:475 (4) - Weird spacing
03:10:891 (1) - This spinner feels really random

Great song, Star!

[General]

1. Las Tags no son las mismas para todas las dificultades.
2. Porqué el fondo dice "Hard Level"?
3. Borra el .osb y haz una Full Submission.
4. Creo que el Timing necesita corrección ya que al final están muy rápidos los círculos, pero no puedo darte un timing nuevo con esta computadora. D:

[Normal]

1. Recheca el spacing del mapa... no es grave pero hay veces en donde el spacing es inconsistente. Checa que todos los círculos estén espaciados correctamente, al menos dentro de un combo.

01:16:933 (2) - Este slider es confuso, ya que no sabes que va a haber más de un rebote. También es confuso porque no es igual que el slider previo.

[Hard]

1. Es extraño como [Normal] tiene los círculos más pequeños que [Hard]. ¿No piensas cambiarlo? O_o
2. ¿No vas a incrementar la Overall Difficulty también?

00:30:266 (3,4) - Spacing.
00:33:808 (5,6) - Spacing.
00:43:391 - Creo que el cambio de volumen aquí es muy drástico.
00:57:350 - Lo mismo.
01:01:933 (1,2) - Spacing.
01:09:225 (6,7) - Spacing.
01:50:058 - Lo mismo que en 00:43:391.
02:03:808 - Lo mismo.
02:10:683 (1,2) - Esto no es rankeable ya que no se puede ver el slider (2).
02:29:433 - Lo mismo del volumen.

~ ~ ~

No esperé sacar una lista larga.
Hasta que arregles todo esto, te doy la estrella.

muy bueno

Hey! ahora viene mi Modding :3

[Normal]

[hard]

Estrello el map porque está terminado en lo referente a la composición

Overall
Delete the .osb file in the osu folder, right now it's using files such as "lovedinges" and "sun" but in the folder, i don't see any "lovedinges" or "sun" files, well unless ur gonna do some storyboarding?

Normal
00:41:308 (4,5,6,7) - move this to the right, just a little bit, so that 4 and the whole pattern is spaced
00:46:724 (7) - move to the left a little bit
00:54:433 (3) - new combo
01:04:850 (8) - new combo here, remove from next note
01:07:350 (4) - new combo
01:18:183 (5) - new combo
01:46:516 (5) - new combo here, or on the next note, u pick
01:53:183 (4,5,6,7,8) - Move all of these notes to the left, just a little

Hard
I kinda really like everything in this diff , nothing to complain about

muy buen mapa u.u despues quero el de la cumbia! :E

muy buen mapa u.u despues quero el de la cumbia! :E

muy bueno! suerte fieraa

star

star para ti darck me buen map , puedes tomar lo que dijite por el chat o si no xD
bueno eso mucha suerte

Bueno... modeare en español y la dificultad de EEeee lo hare en ingles, por eso de que me diiste de hacer el mod en español y todo eso xD

~All Diffs~
- Elimina las comas despues de cada Tag, no son necesarias, añade además "EEeee" en los Tags de todas las dificultades.
- Elimina el archivo .osb de la carpeta de tu map y haz un full submit cuando actualices el map.
- El contraste del azul del approach circle y del amarillo de los bordes de los sliders queda bastante mal, o cambias uno o cambias lo otro, es tu decision
- Deberías tambien cambiar los números de los hitcircles... son muy dificiles de ver x_x
- Necesitas tener el Kiai Time en los mismos sitios y con la misma duracion en todas las dificultades.
- Necesitas una dificultad Easy en tu map de menos de 3 estrellas de dificultad. Sin ella el mapa no es rankeable :/

~Normal~
- Baja el HP Drain Rate un poco.
- Uhhh... 4.5 estrellas es considerado Hard y no Normal... Intenta hacerla un poco mas facil? Puedes probar a bajar la velocidad de los sliders o quitar circulos en partes dificiles o disminuir el spacing entre las notas, hacer combos mas cortos...

00:38:960 (5) - New Combo.
00:45:210 (1) - Elimina esta nota, queda muy cerca del spinner (y resulta dificil para una Normal)
01:18:335 (5) - New Combo.
01:42:293 (5) - ^

~EEeee's Hard~
00:05:835 (3,5) - Fix spacing.
00:12:501 (4,6) - ^
00:14:793 (2) - ^
00:15:001 (3) - New Combo.
00:46:251 (5) - ^
01:52:918 (5) - ^
02:31:252 (8) - Move to the upper left corner?
02:42:502 (7) - New Combo.
02:59:585 (5) - ^
03:16:668 (1) - Delete New Combo.
03:17:710 (1,1,1,1) - ^

~Hard~
00:18:335 (4) - New Combo.
00:31:668 (5) - Arregla el spacing y usa un New Combo.
01:02:501 (2) - Arregla el spacing. Tendrás que hacerlo sin usar el Distance Snap, porque el slowdown hará que la tengas que dejar ahi. Sin embargo cuando la juegas ese spacing hace que parezca que la nota viene antes de tiempo...
01:10:626 (8) - Arregla el spacing.
01:18:335 (x) - Añade una nota aqui?
01:46:668 (4,5) - Hazles un flip vertical, quedan muy raros y confusos asi.
03:01:668 (4) - New Combo.

No esta mal! :3 Pero eso si, haz una Easy >.<. Tambien puedes dejar la Normal como la tienes y llamarla Hard, y añadir unos cuantos streams a la Hard y llamarla Insane... Mucha suerte! ^^ *star*

thx beuchi

Download: Jason Derulo ft. Imogen Heap - Whatcha Say (darck360) [EEeee's Hard].osu

- General:

• The custom hitclap sounds great, you should use it more in the map.
  Spinner-circle.png is not perfectly centered.
  Add EEeee to the tags in all difficulties

- Normal:

• .Opinions:
  Too hard for a Normal, imho. This map says "Hard!" everywhere.
  Timing sections with Normal hitsounds have a lower volume compared to the ones with Soft and don't sound good. Raise the volume up by two ticks.
  .Suggestions:
  00:45:210 (1,2) - the (1) is easily misreadable. I suggest removing it, then add the new combo to (2)

- EEeee's Hard:

• .Opinions:
  Please, find a way to add one more break for the second half of the song xD
  Please consider the custom hitclap used in the beginning for the chorus. I think it would be great to use the standard claps for the sliders like you already did (and they came out great) and then add a simple pattern of custom hitclaps to add more variety
  3:36:252 (1) - the finish hitsound??? It sounds so out of place O.o

- Hard:

• .Opinions:
  00:08:335 (3) - missing finish at the beginning?
  Most of the new combos make no sense to me, but the map feels playable anyway so i don't see the need to point everything out. I guess you have a reason for making them that way.
  01:27:085 (1) - kinda ugly
  Timing sections with Normal hitsounds have a lower volume compared to the ones with Soft and don't sound good. Raise the volume up by two ticks.
  .Suggestions:
  01:18:335 - the break here just leaves the player o.o". I think you should map until 01:21:668.
  01:41:668 - add a beat here?
  01:45:002 - ^
  .Errors/Mistakes:
  01:02:085 (1,2) - what? Unexpected change of spacing when the whole map has a regular spacing, really unreadable :<

Many little things to fix here and there, but the map is fine overall.

The finish at the end sounds great -_-

and the custom hitsound should be fixed now, it wasn't my fault -_-

i'd figure. some irc modding/support

[General]

1. Elimina el .osb y haz un Full Submit.
2. Porqué no mover el mapa a Pending?
3. Un tip general... no sé si ya te lo dije pero trata de cambiar o eliminar sliders cortos (1/2) con más de un rebote, es confuso y desorienta al jugador. D=
4. El offset se siente un poco temprano pero no estoy seguro.
5. Trata de hacer el Kiai Time como lo hizo EEeee en tus dificultades.
6. Snappea bien todas las inherited sections! Comparación: Mal- http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7178 ~ Bien- http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7179

[Easy]

1. Los sliders están un poco rápidos para un Easy.
2. Deberías agregar hitsounds para aumentar la calidad del mapa.

00:00:835 (1,2,3,4) - Porqué mapear esta parte de la canción en [Easy]? Ninguna de las otras dificultades tiene esta parte mappeada.
01:09:585 (6) - La forma del slider es abstracta y no definida, quisá hacer una más simple? Se ve un poco amontonado con las demás notas.

~ Easy realmente necesita cambios de combos... aquí hay una lista si estás interesado en arreglarlos. Sólo cambia el New combo a todas estas notas (si ya tiene new combo, desactívalo, si no tiene, actívalo).


[Normal]

1. Quisá incrementar la OD? Esa OD es para dificultades fáciles.

Combo mod:

[Insane]


~ ~ ~

Me estoy quedando cansado por esto, lo voy a terminar después. D=
Asegúrate de arreglar todo eso.
Ahora si le doy mi estrella.

insane too easy

Uh, Insane says "Not submitted yet" so something screwed up. I also tried redownloading twice. O_o
Also, you always forget kudosu. :<

Blue: Sugestion. Not necessary, but should take good effects.
Green: Notification or cosmetic thing. May, but don't have to be fixed.
Orange: Should be fixed.
Red: Have to be fixed.

[Easy]

1. I would use Kiai on the chorus, not verses.
2. 00:58:752 (1) - From I know circles right before spinners, are confusicg for noobies. Just a detail.
3. Remove EEeee from the tags.

[Normal]

1. Remove EEeee from the tags.

[EEeee's Hard]

1. Maybe, a little SB "Hold" for slow sliders. Not necessary anyway.

General

1. Try to add a Source. Album title would be best.

Cool beatmap starrr'd.
P.S. I didn't checked Insane cause it's "not submitted" so...

Sorry ShaggoN, but EEeee has to be in the tags for all difficulties anyway, since all diffs have to have to same tags.

Blue = design/minor issues. you do not have to change these if you don't want to.
Orange = moderate issues. it would be best if you change these.
Red = major issues. you need to change these

1. Timing looks good
2. It says that Insane isn't submitted, even though it definately is. Try doing a Full Submit and see if that fixes it.

[EASY]

Seems fine.

[NORMAL]

Seems a little hard for a Normal, but theres nothing technically wrong with the map.

[EEEEE'S HARD]

lots of Kiai D:. This seems more like an Insane to me. Perhaps you could rename this diff to "EEeee's Insane"?

[INSANE]

Nice

Nice mapset. Not much wrong apart from some issues with submitting. Good job

Starred

Starr'd

Staar

Now it's even more messed up than before... Normal and Insane now say "Not submitted yet", and they're included in the osz. wtf?

Also, I meant Doomsday/ShaggoN/Card'N FoRcE also need kudosu, not only me :<

EDIT: I download the novideo version, if that matters.

Hard+:
01:41:668 (x) - strange..add a note here or extend the slider @ 01:41:252 (8) - ?
01:45:002 (x) - ^
01:47:085 (5,6) - Spacing? or does it need a note in 01:47:502 (x) - ?
03:22:085 (4) - should I nazi this

Hard:
need a lot of new combo mod here...

Easy:

-00:09:585 (6) Remove finish from the end of this slider, keep it in the beginning

Didn't really found anything else wrong with it ^^
Anyways, nice map and song. (Liked the original version of the song better though )
Star~

esta muy bueno darck

pues lo dicho por PM, me ha gustao bastante ^^

asi que mucha suerte y esperemos que te lo rankeen pronto ^^

star~~

[Easy]
01:17:085 (1) - remove new combo
01:18:335 (2) - new combo

[Hard]
01:47:710 (8) - 1 tick right
00:10:835 (1) - remove new combo
00:11:668 (2) - new combo
00:22:918 (1) - remove new combo
00:25:418 (4) - new combo
00:35:627 (8) - new combo
00:40:001 (1) - remove new combo
00:58:335 (8) - new combo
00:59:793 (1) - remove new combo
01:05:002 (8) - new combo

01:06:460 (1) - remove new combo
01:11:460 (1) - remove new combo
01:11:668 (2) - new combo
01:25:418 (7) - new combo
01:27:502 (1) - remove new combo
01:38:335 (4) - new combo
01:39:793 (1) - remove new combo
01:44:585 (1) - remove new combo
01:45:627 (2) - new combo
01:51:668 (6) - new combo
01:52:502 (1) - remove new combo

[EEeee's Insane]
Fine

[Hard+]
00:11:668 (5) - new combo
00:13:751 (1) - remove new combo
00:32:918 (1) - remove new combo
00:45:001 (5) - new combo


Orz star.

[Mod Infos]

Azure: Suggestions.
Blue: You should fix this.
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[General]

• • Your difficulties are N H I I (see beatmap listening): you MUST make an easier difficulty
  • Delete the osb file, then "Full submission"
  • Offset: 5020 (resnap all notes)
  • Add "EEeee" into the tags of all these difficulties
  • Disable countdown

[Easy] (this is a Normal imo)

• • 01:12:936 (2,3) - Spacing (keep "Distance snap" active and fix it)
  • 01:16:269 (5,1) - ^

[Hard+]

• • Remove "Jason Derulo" from Source

[General]:

1. there is no need to add English as tags. when this get ranked, its Genre well be Pop(English)
2. I sugget you put a clap when you hear a clap. (like what EEeee did on his diff)

[Easy]:

1. 00:18:353 (T) - make this green line stay at 00:18:145, to prevent a soft hitsound when someone click earlier than it.
2. 00:44:186 (T) - this green line is not acturally on the white line. you changed the offset after all green lines setted, didn't you? then you should also do that on the green lines.
3. 01:10:853 (T) - add something here? like a slider.

[Hard]:

1. do the same thing on the green lines as what I said in [Easy].
2. I suggest you make [Hard] a full version.

[EEeee's Insane]:

1. this diff has higher score than Hard+ but lower difficulty.
2. it has different KIAI time with others? but this diff's feels like better.
3. awesome :3

[Hard+]:

1. try to decrease the star rating. (Circle size -1 and HP drain -1 then OK)

4 diffs with length like this is not supportted in my queue, notice this next time (ˇˍˇ)

this song is good, star~

[General]
maybe there are too much kiai time in easy ?
eh...shall we make the note more regular ? like i update. also, just a suggestion, you can change it or not, as you like.
sorry for my poor english.

[Easy]
00:31:686 (1) remove clap, add a finish here, maybe good.
00:32:103 (2) remove this circle ?
00:42:728 (1) remove whistle on spinner, add a finish or clap here, maybe good.

[Hard]
00:34:186 (6,7) shall we have only one slider here and it end at 00:35:020 ?

[Hard+]
01:47:103 (5,6) maybe a little far between 5,6?
02:59:603 () add a circle here?
03:01:207 () ^

[EEeee's Insane]
Done


cool map and cool mp3
Hope it ranked

Download: Jason Derulo ft. Imogen Heap - Whatcha Say (darck360) [Easy].osu

[EEeee's Insane]
02:31:270 (8) - Maybe put this on the top left corner instead?

[Hard+]
01:47:103 (5,6) - the only such jump in the entire map. It might be OK if there were multiple jumps like this but there aren't.


Insane and Hard+ are pretty good but Hard and Easy's sliders and patterns (if they have any patterns at all...) and stuff seem really sloppy.
[Hard]
ends abruptly

[Easy]
It's really short.
Why not just increase the OD by 3 and rename it Normal?... IMO that's what it is.
00:37:103 (3) - clap sounds funny.

[General]
No es buena idea que uses blanco puro como color, a algunos les molesta especialmente con el kiai

[Easy]
Umm esta dificultad esta incompleta :<
00:40:020 (3,5) - Preferiria que estos los hicieras rectos o curvos, pero no algo en medio de recto y curvo ya que los hace ver feos.
00:42:728 (1) - Si estas siguiendo la letra, este spinner sobra, si estas siguiendo la musica, el spinner deberia terminar en: 00:45:020
00:56:478 (1) - Este spinner sobra si estas siguiendo la letra, si estas siguiendo la musica si está bien ^^

[Hard]
De nuevo incompleta, aqui me conocen ya por no apoyar las dificultades asi XD
00:34:603 (7) - Depronto muevelo medio beat adelante

[Hard+]
00:07:520 (1) - Bueno ya he dicho que sliders asi se ven feos deberías tratar de hacerlos mas curvos: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8920 para hacerlo solo ajusta el waypoint de la mitad para que quede en la mitad de los otros dos
00:12:520 (3) - ^
00:16:270 (1) - Umm este slider o recto o curvo pero no alguna forma que no es ninguno de los dos >_<
00:25:853 (5) - Este slider podria verse mucho mejor.
00:25:853 (5,6) - Un poco nazi, pero el spacing aqui no es coherente. Este spacing es medio grid mas pequeño que el resto del combo, trata de reorganizarlo sin distance snap, ya que incluso distance snap comete errores a veces.
00:29:603 (1) - Podria verse mejor como: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8922
Y eso sera todo lo de sliders que dire, supongo que puedes darte cuenta de los demas por ti mismo ^^ con estos ejemplos jejeje
00:30:436 (3,4) - ehh este spacing esta la mitad que el resto del combo...
00:31:686 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Mas errores de spacing en este combo (fijate en los grids, hay unos que estan a 1 grid de distancia y otros que estan a 2, mientras que todos estan medio beat en el tiempo)
00:35:645 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - De nuevo mas errores de spacing.
Creo que mejor dejo que encuentres los demas ^^ y creeme un BAT me regaño una vez por errores de spacing de (1,1,2,1,1,1,2) grids cuando todo parecía bien con el distance snap.
01:46:686 (4,5) - Confuso saber cual va primero =/

[EEeee's Insane]
Me parece bien, el score llega a 13,4m pero la dificultad es lo suficientemente larga en mi opinion.

Eso es todo

Hard+
sube el HP drain?
las green lines que utilizas para hacer cambios en el audio, ya sea cambio de volumen, o pasar de normal a soft, no puedes ponerlas justo encima de la nota, tienen que estar 1/2 o 1/4 de beat antes de la nota, en caso de que el jugador le de a las notas temprano, no se arruine el efecto que intentas lograr ^^
01:02:103 (1,2,3) - espacio inconsistente (el 3 debería estar mas cerca del 2)
01:10:645 (8) - ^
01:47:103 (5,6) - ^

Hard
sube el HP drain

Easy
00:05:020 (1,2) - muy lejos

Star!

Delete the sliderbar, custom hit colours and hitsounds.

I've contacted some higher-up BAT, telling him about this.
He said that if I didn't give permision you should delete the sliderbar, hitsounds and colours.
So please do so, since I don't want you stealing my stuff.

Request Accepted


good mapset
STAR!

Even the preview point is same as Gladi's.

YOU LITTLE FUCKER

Retard map.
Stealing Gladi's stuff, fucker.

sorry for the late mod ;(
I cannot find anything that isn't a nazi
and c'mon guys, be nice, he didn't steal the map

Hey, that's really bs guys, i for one didn't know he "took" stuff from Gladi's map, but dude, all these comments saying bs insults, plz stop. this could easy have been solved by chatting with the mapper, pm

also, Preview point is the same? Is that a problem? the map isn't the same, so quit bi*ching...... unless it is exactly the same, i'm ashamed of Gladi, Lesjuh, and Henkie u.u (no offense guys)

also this is his first maps, nice impression guys

@ Natteke desu, I knew Gladi mapped it, and never dled it, but i added the preview times, so.... basically thx for insult bro

For the map itself, fine.

and why not talk peacefully? ;_;

He downloaded my map > deleted my diffs and makes his own and uploads it.
Now my custom slider bar is in there.
I'm not fond of that, I haven't been talking BS or haven't been talking not nice here, so don't go play fucking victim.

Just delete the god damn sliderbar and all is fine (OR make it a diffrent color.), but nooo let's make a fucking drama shall we?

[quote="Gladi"]He downloaded my map > deleted my diffs and makes his own and uploads it.
Now my custom slider bar is in there.
I'm not fond of that, I haven't been talking BS or haven't been talking not nice here, so don't go play fucking victim.

Just delete the god damn sliderbar and all is fine (OR make it a diffrent color.), but nooo let's make a fucking drama shall we?[/quote


Make sure u delete those stuff Darck, Following modders, don't rank unless those are removed!

also kudosu Gladi! no hate between us if i may have said something in my other post ^^

Mmmm, whatcha say~

Mmm, that you only meant well~ .w.

........ >.<b

Do hang on one second, this is not Instrumental

Whoops, corrected. Thanks for pointing that out. xD