osu! World Cup 2014 - Discussion Thread

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Melt3dCheeze
Do you think you (Loctav) and the osu! staff are willing enough to publicise what you guys did to solve this issue of "BOYCOTT OWC" after this tournament is over? It's best to know what actually happened rather than us being in the dark. You'll reinforce positive ideas by actually telling us the process, rather than having an image where we depict the osu!staff as lacking confidence and showing inconsistencies in their decisions.
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Loctav

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

Do you think you (Loctav) and the osu! staff are willing enough to publicise what you guys did to solve this issue of "BOYCOTT OWC" after this tournament is over? It's best to know what actually happened rather than us being in the dark. You'll reinforce positive ideas by actually telling us the process, rather than having an image where we depict the osu!staff as lacking confidence and showing inconsistencies in their decisions.
We will do so after this tournament concluded.
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Loctav
Everyone, please take note of the following post: t/255369
Miterosan
No need to warm up old stuff.
Deimos
Problems happend. Problems were solved. Such problems will no longer occur in the wiki.

Good luck for all teams who are participating.
Holorin
Loctav, I thank you for listening to other's opinions and take them into consideration.
I really do hope that the staffs can consider a preliminary round for all the countries, each has a seed number and will have an easier time through the preliminaries. That way, more country can have the chance to participate. It's down on execution anyway, as ranking doesn't mean anything in multiplayer.
Let's hope for a successful OWC! :D
Edit: For next year I meant :D
Miterosan

Not by Miterosan wrote:

No need to warm up old stuff.
:/ ok
Gumpy

Oppai Neko wrote:

Let's hope for a successful OWC! :D
a10029783

Oppai Neko wrote:

Loctav, I thank you for listening to other's opinions and take them into consideration.
I really do hope that the staffs can consider a preliminary round for all the countries, each has a seed number and will have an easier time through the preliminaries. That way, more country can have the chance to participate. It's down on execution anyway, as ranking doesn't mean anything in multiplayer.
Let's hope for a successful OWC! :D
Edit: For next year I meant :D
I agree.
AmaiHachimitsu

Oppai Neko wrote:

Let's hope for a successful OWC! :D
We hoped once, it was awful

noneed - yup, it is
AmaiHachimitsu
Just a piece of advice for commentators.


While Yoiduki Mayuta's DU is acceptable in transcription (It's because the Japanese using roomaji input type DU to make syllable づ appear), it is a voiced TSU sound, something you would pronounce DZU, not DU. There is no DU sound in standard Japanese.


I'm pretty sure the japanese titles and names will be pronounced in terrible manner, but I just hope you avoid doing basic mistakes. (like pronouncing my name as Hamachi or sth - happened last year)
KRZY

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I'm pretty sure the japanese titles and names will be pronounced in terrible manner, but I just hope you avoid doing basic mistakes. (like pronouncing my name as Hamachi or sth - happened last year)

Also a spreadsheet with all participating players sorted by groups and pp rank: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0 Had a few extra hours yesterday and thought everybody would love numbers, just take it as a very rough picture of how teams stand this tourney.
noneed
thanks for the info amai

oh well, I dont play much anymore but I still love watching the best play. guess next year...
eldnl

Loctav wrote:

Hey everybody.

I stepped out of this entire discussion, because it was nowhere my call to make what regulations apply in this kind of topic. Let's say that I - for myself - want to stay neutral here and I will consider for myself all your brought-up arguments in order to improve the further registration regulations for future world cups, starting with the next upcoming Taiko World Cup 2015 in February.

Please understand that we can not change the regulation at this point for the OWC 2014 anymore, due to the organizational strains and restrictions, especially when you consider that there are not only 1 world cup but 4 world cups per year (and I also need my few weeks to breathe inbetween).

Be assured that I, for myself, have recognized your concerns, hence why I tried to discuss with some of you to make my point clear. We accept your opinion on that and will consider your point of views in future regulations.

For this OWC, unfortunately, the things are as they are now. Please keep in mind that I can not guarantee that the regulations will be any enlightened anywhere. As a future recommendation, I want to say that everyone should stop multiaccounting, cheating or account sharing at instant - to avoid future hassle. Always try to understand that I am also not willed to let people join the tournament I am working on for months over months, while they are blatantly violate the rules and cause me even more extra work. You might consider this as unfair or not impactful enough for this tournament.

Always keep in mind: Imagine how it would be if the participants of your own tournament try to boss you around about what is right and what is wrong. This is your tournament after all, so you make the rules. You are not forcing anyone to join.
I am well aware that the OWC is an event everyone anticipates for, I am well aware that you want to compete against the top of the top, hence I want that too. I want to make this awesome for everyone.

But I have this simple, very simple requirement to make you join: Stop making me and my comrades here extra work by breaking the rules. You are making us trouble on many other fields, independent from this tournament. If you are making me trouble, I do not give you the opportunity to join the events to make your e-penis grow any further, WHILE you are basically making a fool out of me and my comrades. I hope you understand that point.

Anyways, we try to stay neutral here, on all judgements we fell, on all cases that were rejected. I was sorta stunned seeing this happening, but I can not help if the top players are not interested in obeying the rules - and therefore forfeiting their privilege to join the tournament I and my co-hosters work almost 40h a week on. Please RESPECT my and their work. And in order to respect that: Stop breaking the rules.

Moreover, it is not my fault that you fail to read a rule set. When you sign up, you agree to the tournament rules, so I can await that you read everything again and again before signing up. Whoever doesn't has no right to complain retrospectively.

Try to understand my position in specific. I want to bring you the biggest experience ever, so stop being so selfish and understand why I am not willed to let people being disrespectful upon me to join a tournament I am basically hosting (apart of all origin, cheers to lesslunatic and fartownik for the initial work in hosting this)

To bring this entire discussion to an end, I have splitted away the posts for this, storing them in a good place so I can furtherly revise them to improve this tournament for you. Your word has been heard, your warning has been sent. But now, I want to reopen this topic in order to make people discuss the schedules, the mappools and the drawings. Let's have a good OWC, anyways. Put your grunge away and let's enjoy this, because that's what I want to.

In order to clarify: I won't refrain from furtherly remove any discussion about the above addressed topic in order to make the topic focus on what it should focus for now. This is mostly because this topic leads to nowhere for now and we won't find any compromise here in a decent manner. I hope you do not consider this as censorship, but mostly as a regulative measurement to give the map selectors and the playing teams the opportunity to actually discuss the tournament self

Unlocked. Keep this on line.
Just a little thing that I want to suggest, do not leave this for later, it may not affect this tournament but the problems are on the table right now. Remember that this happened on the CWC 2014 too. I could add some points on the discussion itself if you want to handle with this problem now.
Nwolf
I love how people still think that boycotting can only be understood as "making the tournament better"


But please, just stop this discussion. Because it is fun for spectators to watch, no matter you like it or not. It is fun for more than half of the teams participating so the problem is probably in the whiny teams.
cptnXn
just out of curiosity how did you decide the seeds for each country
pp doesn't make sense
Cyclohexane

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Just a piece of advice for commentators.


While Yoiduki Mayuta's DU is acceptable in transcription (It's because the Japanese using roomaji input type DU to make syllable づ appear), it is a voiced TSU sound, something you would pronounce DZU, not DU. There is no DU sound in standard Japanese.


I'm pretty sure the japanese titles and names will be pronounced in terrible manner, but I just hope you avoid doing basic mistakes. (like pronouncing my name as Hamachi or sth - happened last year)
But isn't half the fun in listening to commentary when the commentators noticeably fuck up pronounciation of a player's name or map?
I'll make sure to remember that. :p
KRZY
Ye just remembered my KRZY is Polish and not English so it's Kuruzy and not Krazy plz commentators I love you too
fartownik
I've got advice for commentators as well: WOMBO COMBO

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KRZY wrote:

Ye just remembered my KRZY is Polish and not English so it's Kuruzy and not Krazy plz commentators I love you too
Shouldn't it be like, "kshy" or sth? :)
ToGlette

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I'm pretty sure the japanese titles and names will be pronounced in terrible manner, but I just hope you avoid doing basic mistakes. (like pronouncing my name as Hamachi or sth - happened last year)
Don't worry about this. I will be helping the commentary team with the pronounciation since I speak decent Japanese.

KRZY wrote:

Ye just remembered my KRZY is Polish and not English so it's Kuruzy and not Krazy plz commentators I love you too
Krazy forever <3

Mr Color wrote:

But isn't half the fun in listening to commentary when the commentators noticeably fuck up pronounciation of a player's name or map?
I'll make sure to remember that. :p
Korway again \:D/
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