Mazzerin wrote:

oh come on, there are probably at least 500 people who can play it properly and 1/10th of them should be able to pass, it's not even that bad. alumetorz said he was surprised the star rating was that high until he saw the solo

Maeglwn wrote:

the song

Maeglwn wrote:

I love this song but honestly songs like this are too out there for most of the community

hoozimajiget wrote:

Maeglwn wrote:

I love this song but honestly songs like this are too out there for most of the community

No one was up in arms about this when Bal-Sagoth was ranked, why now?

Maeglwn wrote:

Mazzerin wrote:

oh come on, there are probably at least 500 people who can play it properly and 1/10th of them should be able to pass, it's not even that bad. alumetorz said he was surprised the star rating was that high until he saw the solo

the song

the song

the song

Maeglwn wrote:

the song

Maeglwn wrote:

the song

the song

the song

Maeglwn wrote:

the song

Zeugmax wrote:

For some reason this looks more easy than time freeze, maybe the hp drain is too generous? 6/7 clears already, I hope it stays ranked, these songs benefit the community

Mazzerin wrote:

whats wrong with the song?? ive never seen any anime and i cant see any artistic value or meaning in 99% of those songs where the vocalists pretend theyre 7 years old. however you dont seeme complaining about it in every thread where some awful anime song is ranked. im not waiting for anyone else to start mapping music i like, and so im doing it all by myself. you dont like it, you dont play it, its not that hard to ignore it

Maeglwn wrote:

good song, but not for osu

at all

od10 is also completely insane, have fun with that one

Mazzerin wrote:

whats wrong with the song?? ive never seen any anime and i cant see any artistic value or meaning in 99% of those songs where the vocalists pretend theyre 7 years old. however you dont seeme complaining about it in every thread where some awful anime song is ranked. im not waiting for anyone else to start mapping music i like, and so im doing it all by myself. you dont like it, you dont play it, its not that hard to ignore it

A Mystery wrote:

Maeglwn wrote:

good song, but not for osu

at all

od10 is also completely insane, have fun with that one

1. 00:55:569 (1,2,3,4) - Really poor flow, coupled with a lack of basis in the music calls for a very sharp play that is very unnatural. The angles that are presented here are too harsh when taking the surrounding patterns into consideration.
2. 00:57:319 (5,1) - Wildly inconsistent spacing. There are plenty of instances where spacing manipulation is abused to either fit the pattern or ignore musical cues. Please go through the difficulty and iron out any areas where the beat placement can be improved.
3. 00:59:569 (1,2,4,5) - These overlapping patterns make things hard to read due to the rotating nature of the play. This can be very misleading, as 00:59:944 (4,5) - can be obscured when they appear, further worsened by the fact the player has to move outwards to 00:59:819 (3) - .
4. 01:06:069 (4,5,1,2) - Due to the flow and the way the pattern is set up, it is easy for the player to get lost here. The sharp change in direction doesn't help either. Try to make each note more noticeable by unstacking or supply flow so the play is more natural.
5. 01:10:569 (1,1) - This pause is incredibly awkward due to the extreme momentum the previous pattern gave off. Needs to be spaced out further, not to mention the streams kill the momentum even more.
6. 01:25:819 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Awkward stream pattern. This can be executed better by decreasing the spacing between the jumps, especially between 01:26:194 (3,1) -
7. 01:28:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - While this is a pretty pattern, it kills virtually all the momentum from the previous streams, thus making 01:29:819 (1,2,1) - extremely difficult to maneuver
8. 02:00:069 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Heavy spacing inconsistencies. Things like this can be found throughout the difficulty
9. 04:31:526 (1,2,3,4) - Strange anti-jump that appears out of nowhere, killing the momentum from the previous play making the next pattern more awkward
10. 04:38:006 (2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - Strange spacing increase for pretty much the same rhythms as before
11. 04:56:006 (1,2,3,4,1) - Sudden spacing decrease for the same rhythm as 04:52:166 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) -
12. 05:00:326 (1,2,3,4,5) - The upward and downward motions here creates a sort of movement that is very awkward when taken into account the movement upwards, the movement to the side and downwards, followed by the movement back upwards

Mazzerin wrote:

feel free to drop your suggestions everyone, gonna get it done again tomorrow
extra thanks to the bns who made their sacrifice #1 : )

Lust wrote:

Howdy! On behalf on the QAT, I must disqualify this beatmap for the following reasons:

1. Lack of quality, especially in regards to flow and other gameplay-related mechanics. There are plenty of misleading patterns, sharp angles, messy structures, and incorrect beat placement found throughout the difficulty.
2. Incorrect timing signature, 03:23:440 - should be set to 3/4, not to 4/4.
3. Incorrectly snapped objects. 04:50:486 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - is not in 1/3, rather it is 1/2

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deetz wrote:

are we seriously complaining about song choice e_e

let people try to map whatever they want, the quality of the map is the only thing that should show in the end

jesus1412 wrote:

06:09:792 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - There are a lot of sections like this and I feel like you want them to be intense but imo there's a problem here. I know that they're intense 1key sections but I think they're a little TOO intense, the aiming required is a flowing motion for all of the parts like this whilst also requiring immense effort to 1key, in the end it just makes this section too hard to consistently aim and tap at the same time. Because I'm a shitter and I can't aim + tap at the same time I end up alternating these patterns (more like streaming through them) which takes away all of the intensity.

There are a lot of sections like that, I'd recommend adding sliders to make it more easily 1key-able or telling me to screw myself.

Lust wrote:

1. Lack of quality, especially in regards to flow and other gameplay-related mechanics. There are plenty of misleading patterns, sharp angles, messy structures, and incorrect beat placement found throughout the difficulty. -> i cri for this ;_; (this just opinion i guess)
2. Incorrect timing signature, 03:23:440 - should be set to 3/4, not to 4/4.
3. Incorrectly snapped objects. 04:50:486 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - is not in 1/3, rather it is 1/2

The QAT has found this map to not be suitable for the ranked status at this time. This is largely due to the heavy amounts of inconsistent gameplay mechanics the mapper has utilized. While the song is erratic in nature, this does not excuse the various issues this difficulty presents. Below are examples of specific problems that are found throughout the map, please use them to help fix the problems and to avoid any future disqualifications.
[Blind Faith]

1. 00:55:569 (1,2,3,4) - Really poor flow, coupled with a lack of basis in the music calls for a very sharp play that is very unnatural. The angles that are presented here are too harsh when taking the surrounding patterns into consideration. -> 00:56:069 (4) - CTRL+H then move to x335y293 or anyting else you want
2. 00:57:319 (5,1) - Wildly inconsistent spacing. There are plenty of instances where spacing manipulation is abused to either fit the pattern or ignore musical cues. Please go through the difficulty and iron out any areas where the beat placement can be improved. -> still didnt get it for this but i suggesting you to move 00:57:319 (5) - to x248y48
3. 00:59:569 (1,2,4,5) - These overlapping patterns make things hard to read due to the rotating nature of the play. This can be very misleading, as 00:59:944 (4,5) - can be obscured when they appear, further worsened by the fact the player has to move outwards to 00:59:819 (3) - . -> this overlaps looks can be readable, since 00:58:569 (1,2,3,4,5) - has rotating pattern (so you can decide this, mazzerin.
4. 01:06:069 (4,5,1,2) - Due to the flow and the way the pattern is set up, it is easy for the player to get lost here. The sharp change in direction doesn't help either. Try to make each note more noticeable by unstacking or supply flow so the play is more natural. -> 01:06:069 (4,5) - decrease this distance spacing or move 01:06:194 (5) - to x176y264
5. 01:10:569 (1,1) - This pause is incredibly awkward due to the extreme momentum the previous pattern gave off. Needs to be spaced out further, not to mention the streams kill the momentum even more. -> agree with this, since 01:10:819 (1) - has been overlapped i think it hard to read a bit. if you want, just move 01:10:569 (1) - to x320y32
6. 01:25:819 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Awkward stream pattern. This can be executed better by decreasing the spacing between the jumps, especially between 01:26:194 (3,1) - -> i prefer you to make stream pattern like this http://puu.sh/hZK1K/c1912851a7.jpg (looks this can made flow better)
7. 01:28:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - While this is a pretty pattern, it kills virtually all the momentum from the previous streams, thus making 01:29:819 (1,2,1) - extremely difficult to maneuver -> a bit confusing for finding some flow but atleast you change 01:29:944 (2) - ctrl+g then stack it back
8. 02:00:069 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Heavy spacing inconsistencies. Things like this can be found throughout the difficulty -> probably this 01:59:944 (2,1,2) - spacing is problem of this part and looks the next part quite confusing for combo pattern i guess. okay, maybe just move 02:00:319 (3,4) - to x272y216 will reduce flow degradation
9. 04:31:526 (1,2,3,4) - Strange anti-jump that appears out of nowhere, killing the momentum from the previous play making the next pattern more awkward -> since this note like this very hard to hit, you can convert it to reverse slider
10. 04:38:006 (2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - Strange spacing increase for pretty much the same rhythms as before -> 04:38:006 (2,3,4,5) - put interesting zigzag pattern here can be help
11. 04:56:006 (1,2,3,4,1) - Sudden spacing decrease for the same rhythm as 04:52:166 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - -> 04:56:246 (3) - move to x260y268 for stabilize distance i think
12. 05:00:326 (1,2,3,4,5) - The upward and downward motions here creates a sort of movement that is very awkward when taken into account the movement upwards, the movement to the side and downwards, followed by the movement back upwards -> very agree with this. and pattern on 05:00:086 (5,1) - im just feel this pattern like 1/2 (but looks not matter i think). maybe create pattern like this 05:08:006 (1,2,3,4) - can more improve this pattern

sukiNathan wrote:

I honestly doubt this will make any progress without a remap. Especially being disqualified over many fundamental gameplay issues, not just technical problems (as stated in the DQ post).

Good luck anyways~

Alheak wrote:

And lastly, I want to remind people that this is still a rhythm game (kinda), so it makes no sense in my opinion to try this hard to time those nazi guitar strokes which aren't even that noticiable.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Your map must be perfectly timed. This means that your BPM and offset are spot-on, sliders end when they should, notes are generally following a recognizable rhythm (such as the lyrics or drums) which is comprehensible by a player, and that there are no unsnapped notes (you can check this by running AIMod (shortcut ctrl+shift+a) in the editor).

Yales wrote:

sukiNathan wrote:

I honestly doubt this will make any progress without a remap. Especially being disqualified over many fundamental gameplay issues, not just technical problems (as stated in the DQ post).

Good luck anyways~

That feedback from a nominator though...

GoldenWolf wrote:

Alheak wrote:

And lastly, I want to remind people that this is still a rhythm game (kinda), so it makes no sense in my opinion to try this hard to time those nazi guitar strokes which aren't even that noticiable.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Your map must be perfectly timed. This means that your BPM and offset are spot-on, sliders end when they should, notes are generally following a recognizable rhythm (such as the lyrics or drums) which is comprehensible by a player, and that there are no unsnapped notes (you can check this by running AIMod (shortcut ctrl+shift+a) in the editor).

Alheak wrote:

How does the ranking criteria disagree with what I said? In this part the BPM is not spot-on at all, while I might agree for the offset, this kind of timing isn't rhythmically accurate in any way.

Alheak wrote:

I must admit that I am a big quality freak, so seeing something like that on a studio produced song makes me feel kinda mad.

Alheak wrote:

I know that the rules aren't very clear enough on this subject

sukiNathan wrote:

Since when was I obliged to give constructive feedback in every map thread I post in? Besides, you missed my point, I meant this map most likely won't be saved even through tons of polishing and mods. Mods can't fix the heavy amount of fundamental issues pointed out in the DQ post. In my opinion it would be much more efficient to just remap the entire thing. That is just my opinion, though.

sukiNathan wrote:

Since when was I obliged to give constructive feedback in every map thread I post in? Besides, you missed my point, I meant this map most likely won't be saved even through tons of polishing and mods. Mods can't fix the heavy amount of fundamental issues pointed out in the DQ post. In my opinion it would be much more efficient to just remap the entire thing. That is just my opinion, though.

SPOILER

Wookiezi wrote:

sukiNathan wrote:

Since when was I obliged to give constructive feedback in every map thread I post in? Besides, you missed my point, I meant this map most likely won't be saved even through tons of polishing and mods. Mods can't fix the heavy amount of fundamental issues pointed out in the DQ post. In my opinion it would be much more efficient to just remap the entire thing. That is just my opinion, though.

Sure, let's just remap 4000 notes rather than fixing the already existing 4000 notes. Great idea!

This map can go through modding to fix the issues relatively easily provided the correct input from certain modders. Remapping the whole song is lunatic.

Yales wrote:

Cherry Blossom, if you come over here, your picture is wrong it seems.

GoldenWolf wrote:

Well then, I think you might want to take some English lessons. Ain't gonna re-quote the exact same thing so let me break it down for you; You basically said that it makes no sense to try getting the perfect timing for a song. Which the ranking criterias are exactly stating the opposite.

GoldenWolf wrote:

Yes it's a rhythm game, and as such a map has to be perfectly timed to the song. There is no "the random inconsistencies of the guitar are impossible to predict correctly compared to a normal rhythm". That's complete bullshit. OF COURSE a tempo change is not going to be predictable, because it breaks the tempo, duh.

GoldenWolf wrote:

"for the rest all those timing sections and ajustements really feel unnecessary" That's complete bullshit #2. You feel it's unncessary? You think letting go notes off-beat by more than 30ms is okay?

GoldenWolf wrote:

It's exactly because it's a rhythm game that everything must be timed perfectly, as stated in the rules.

Alheak wrote:

I know that the rules aren't very clear enough on this subject

Again, you still don't see how the ranking criterias are directly proving you wrong? The rules are very clear and precise on the matter. "Your map must be perfectly timed." If that isn't clear enough, then I don't know what else you need.

Alheak wrote:

For me BPM should have the priority because the BPM is the rhythm, and this is a rhythm game.