Well I noticed that I have a lot of problems with older maps. It seems that my acc. there is lower than newer maps in the same star range.
Can someone please tell me why this is so?
Can someone please tell me why this is so?
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They are often worse quality, mistimed, badly spaced etc. Older maps relied mostly on grind than your personal skill.
Thruth to be said if we only take good maps then new maps are slightly harder nowdays. Its not worth to play older maps.
Thruth to be said if we only take good maps then new maps are slightly harder nowdays. Its not worth to play older maps.
i honestly think we need a version of pokebis' thread with newer maps but the issue is people don't seem to try anymore when it comes to mapping easies/normals since its pretty much just done out of obligation.
I guess there's also some benefits to starting on old maps in terms of reading some patterns and rhythm, but really couldn't we have some ztrot maps recommended to new players too? those are just as good for learning these things without being old as fuck.
and of course maps are harder now the players are better hah
I guess there's also some benefits to starting on old maps in terms of reading some patterns and rhythm, but really couldn't we have some ztrot maps recommended to new players too? those are just as good for learning these things without being old as fuck.
and of course maps are harder now the players are better hah
So wrong.Storm2344 wrote:
Older maps relied mostly on grind than your personal skill.
Older maps aren't as high in quality. Netoge Haijin Sprechchor is a good example of this. The maps started to get better in 2011.
whatMintLatios wrote:
Older maps aren't as high in quality. Netoge Haijin Sprechchor is a good example of this. The maps started to get better in 2011.
i don't even
DJPop is god
i think the example was just bad, sprechchor is amazingwinber1 wrote:
whatMintLatios wrote:
Older maps aren't as high in quality. Netoge Haijin Sprechchor is a good example of this. The maps started to get better in 2011.
i don't even
shhh it's alright, just a nightmarewinber1 wrote:
what
i don't even
The people need to get away from their old-map-phobia and actually start to look at them.
They're sometimes mistimed, that's true, but they are not "lower in quality" when it comes to their mapping. (at least when you look at like DJPop maps or something similar with structure and general ideas behind the mapping)
They're sometimes mistimed, that's true, but they are not "lower in quality" when it comes to their mapping. (at least when you look at like DJPop maps or something similar with structure and general ideas behind the mapping)
What older maps may be lacking is eye-candy stuff, so they might appear "worse" than recent maps
As the ones before me already said: Old maps aren't bad, they are just mapped in a completely different way.
The Editor and the People have changed a lot in time and so did their mapping. Many functions we take for granted now weren't even existent back then.
Also if we take a look at older DJPop maps for instance we can see that he is one of the inventors of many stuff we have in our nowadays maps.
Mapping just evolved in time.Most old maps make actually more sense than some stuff ranked nowadays
With this "Evolution" of mapping also the players changed. You are most likely used to the Maps you are playing the most which makes it harder to play such different mapping from older maps since also the difficulties settings changed drastically (as far as I know AR9 was hard to read these days since most players were used to the more common AR8 maps, take a look at our nowadays top players, this stuff is getting crazy lol). Also mistiming can be a problem as well but this shouldn't be the case too often anymore since 2010 or so :V
The Editor and the People have changed a lot in time and so did their mapping. Many functions we take for granted now weren't even existent back then.
Also if we take a look at older DJPop maps for instance we can see that he is one of the inventors of many stuff we have in our nowadays maps.
Mapping just evolved in time.
With this "Evolution" of mapping also the players changed. You are most likely used to the Maps you are playing the most which makes it harder to play such different mapping from older maps since also the difficulties settings changed drastically (as far as I know AR9 was hard to read these days since most players were used to the more common AR8 maps, take a look at our nowadays top players, this stuff is getting crazy lol). Also mistiming can be a problem as well but this shouldn't be the case too often anymore since 2010 or so :V
Do you even James
even James can't even right now
we're fucked
we're fucked
There's some rather interesting reasons why older maps are harder, and they have nothing to do with being bad maps. Technically speaking, they aren't even harder, but they are. That makes loads of sense, yes.
Like others' have said, they're different.
Here's one of them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_fart
Older maps are more repetitive than newer ones. Your ability to concentrate on a repetitive patterns is tested more in older maps, than it is in new ones. Newer maps are much more diverse and continuously require interpretation. That keeps you more focused, than just focusing in itself.
Like others' have said, they're different.
Here's one of them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_fart
Older maps are more repetitive than newer ones. Your ability to concentrate on a repetitive patterns is tested more in older maps, than it is in new ones. Newer maps are much more diverse and continuously require interpretation. That keeps you more focused, than just focusing in itself.
I think one very important point that everyone is missing here is that older maps are generally linear and also lacking in what most people will call flow. Flow is a concept that most newer maps are based around, curvy sliders and patterns that make your cursor move to the next note naturally. You don't see as much of this in older maps, in fact you very often have to move in horizontal lines, or back and forth at sharp angles, etc. This alone makes most older maps much harder than newer maps at the same star rating.
I personally think flow makes a map better, so yes, often older maps are of lower quality to me due to the lack of flow, however that doesn't mean they're bad, necessarily. For the most part, it's just a different style which is not as common today. And it's definitely something that takes practice, most people won't understand how to play these older, more linear/floweless maps because of how different mapping is today... ;w;
I personally think flow makes a map better, so yes, often older maps are of lower quality to me due to the lack of flow, however that doesn't mean they're bad, necessarily. For the most part, it's just a different style which is not as common today. And it's definitely something that takes practice, most people won't understand how to play these older, more linear/floweless maps because of how different mapping is today... ;w;
more like people aren't used to it. not like it's truly much harder at all.Silynn wrote:
You don't see as much of this in older maps, in fact you very often have to move in horizontal lines, or back and forth at sharp angles, etc. This alone makes most older maps much harder than newer maps at the same star rating.
Not harder, just different. No one is used to ar 5 cs 6 od 8+ stuff anymore, that alone makes it if not harder at the very least very different from what we are used to seeing these days. Personnally I find djpop/awp maps amazing considering the timing and the pattern wise, yet I can't pass most of their maps with 85%+ accuracy, does that make the maps bad ? No, it's just that I simply suck way too hard at this game 
DJPop osu!std maps. *hides
you are a shame to humanity if you cannot stand up fearlessly to the true glory of the osu!-raceFr33z3R wrote:
DJPop osu!std maps. *hides
best maps na
