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Family Force 5 - The First Time

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0_o
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0_o
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on April-07-10 at 5:21:33 PM

Artist: Family Force 5
Title: The First Time
Tags: lepidopodus Lepidon
BPM: 154
Filesize: 3758kb
Play Time: 02:20
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.34 stars, 109 notes)
  2. Hard (4.92 stars, 289 notes)
  3. lepidon! - Taiko Oni (5 stars, 752 notes)
  4. Normal (3.34 stars, 160 notes)
Download: Family Force 5 - The First Time
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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For foul's Family Force 5 project.

I'm actually not a huge fan of the song, but I figured it made would make a nice map :P
Last edited by 0_o , edited 25 times in total.
rust45
1,088 posts
Joined May 2009
rust45
Little bit of cosmetic modding in IRC, not worth the kudos. But you get a star for another great map.
SamiPale
766 posts
Joined October 2009
SamiPale
nice song and map, it's hard to find out problems :)

here's some nazi

SPOILER
[General]
delete .osb and full submit
clap fit this song. you can put more clap in. and i dislike so many finish hitsounds :(

[Normal]
00:26:934(3) - spacing
00:39:791(4) - spacing
00:59:856(2,3) - spacing
01:07:063(3) - align with (1)?
01:11:349(3,4) - spacing

[Hard]
00:41:349(3) - spacing
00:50:505(4) - spacing
00:56:349(2) - spacing
00:57:315(5) - spacing
01:17:193(4) - spacing
01:26:154(7) - spacing
01:31:804(5) - spacing
02:14:661(2) - spacing

starred~
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller
can't think of any complains. Nice rhytm, spacing and hitsounds.

Oh wait, here is one:

00:31:219 (6) - are you sure this new combo is needed?

Nicely done, take a star :D

edit: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24277 wheeee
dlguiga
60 posts
Joined November 2009
dlguiga
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller

dlguiga wrote:

Normal
00:31:219 (1) - No new combo (maybe?)
so that's 2 of us thinking this new combo is not needed. And I'm an idiot for not mentioning the diff D:
Beuchi
osu! Alumni
2,288 posts
Joined February 2009
Beuchi
Awww I can't find anything wrong!!

Just:
00:39:791 (4) - This slow down part is kind of unexpected (specially on Normal), but nothing you can't pass through playing it again xP

So yeah, this is perfect imo, go get it pubbled/bubbled! x3

*star*
0_o
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0_o
Changed a few finishes/claps and changed the one new combo you two pointed out. With the slowdown in Normal I tried to make it as intuitive as I could, but if more people bring it up then I might switch it.
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter
General
The .osb file is still there. Remove it then full submit.
If this was an instrumental, I would tell you to cut the .mp3 since you mapped around half of the song, but it isn't so I suggest you mapping the full song?

Normal
01:00:635 (1) - Shorten spinner to 1:01:414?

Hard
00:18:947 (1) - Remove new combo
01:15:051 (1) - ^
02:10:570 (x) - Purpose of timing section?
0_o
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Joined December 2008
Topic Starter
0_o

NoHItter wrote:

General
The .osb file is still there. Remove it then full submit. bleh done
If this was an instrumental, I would tell you to cut the .mp3 since you mapped around half of the song, but it isn't so I suggest you mapping the full song? I thought for a while about it, but I decided I would keep the full song in there for the music player, and I think the map would grow tiresome if I mapped the whole thing.

Normal
01:00:635 (1) - Shorten spinner to 1:01:414? It falls on the downbeat now, and I don't want to it be toooo short seeing as it's the easiest difficulty, so I think it works the way it is.

Hard
00:18:947 (1) - Remove new combo This beat and the next combo are mapped to different things, so the combo stays.
01:15:051 (1) - ^ ^
02:10:570 (x) - Purpose of timing section? oops, that was left over from when I had kiai on the choruses. Removed.
lepidopodus
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Joined November 2009
lepidopodus
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Family Force 5 - The First Time (0_o) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni].osu
Mashley
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Joined September 2008
Mashley
Love the taiko diff, but your offset is off... I'm feeling 39.
0_o
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Topic Starter
0_o

Agent Spin Here wrote:

Love the taiko diff, but your offset is off... I'm feeling 39.
Hmm, not sure, I'll wait for a second opinion on that one.
Shulin
1,189 posts
Joined August 2009
Shulin
General:

-- Offset 55 imo.
-- BG is too big resize to 1024 x 768.
-- You have over 2 minutes of the .mp3 unused, cut?
-- Add lepidopodus to tags (at the very least on his difficulty XD)

Normal:

Nice.

Hard:

00:18:947 (1) - Remove new combo? It looks kinda silly.
01:15:056 (1) - ^

Map is fine, if I was to generalize about the hitsounds on this difficulty I'd say I didn't like the red tick finishes and the finishes at the start of sliders. But hitsounds are personal preference and don't sound that bad so its fine ^^

lepidon! Taiko Oni:

Some of the kkd patterns get repetitive and don't always fit imo. Also patterns such as 00:36:874 (33,34,35,36,37) - and 01:01:614 (73,74,75,76,77) - are really difficult for most taiko players (that's why you don't see many people playing the majority of taiko specific difficulties imo). But since this is Oni I guess its fine.

Nice overall ~ Star.
Nachy
807 posts
Joined April 2009
Nachy
Offset is 53 I'm 99.9% sure. Kill me 1000 times if it's still wrong.

Other than that, another awesome faceman creation.
GladiOol
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Joined August 2008
GladiOol
[General]
  1. Also add Lepidon in TAGs xD
  2. Delete .osb~
[Hard]

01:38:819 (9) - Make this an Horizontal flip from 01:37:650 (3). It looks nicer I think.

[Normal]

00:18:754 (x) - Extra note here (?) Just like in Hard.
01:14:858 (x) - ^


The Taiko difficulty looked pretty nice, but I never play Taiko so I can't really know~
PM me again after fixes and I'll Proto Bubble.

Edit:

Proto-Bubbled!
lepidopodus
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Joined November 2009
lepidopodus

Shulin wrote:

Some of the kkd patterns get repetitive and don't always fit imo.
hmm.... specify please. I need where to fix that.
Sometimes I put additional 1/4 note to avoid repetitive patterns like 00:06:286 (1~56)... (If I didn't put kkd k d k repeats too much)
You may know, ddk & kkd are easiest 3 notes pattern (except ddd & kkk) so I tend to use a lot when making easy Oni map (easy Oni? lol)

Shulin wrote:

Also patterns such as 00:36:874 (33,34,35,36,37) - and 01:01:614 (73,74,75,76,77) - are really difficult for most taiko players (that's why you don't see many people playing the majority of taiko specific difficulties imo). But since this is Oni I guess its fine.
ARG. ddkkd and kkddk is easiest pattern among 5 notes pattern (except ddddd or kkkkk).
Well yeah, Oni is hard to lots of taiko player.

Taiko players in osu seems too familiar with 'stadardtic' maps. They are good at dealing with high speed notes without memorising them, tapping 'd d d d d d' accuratly, and dealing 'ddddddddddd....' in high BPM, but terribly bad with dealing patterns, even relativly simple form. osu Taiko mode don't need to be same as TnT, but it needs to be distinguished with 'hardcore ver. of rythm tengoku', at least I think.

(well most taiko specific difficulties are hard, as most of taiko mapper prefer Oni. That can be one reason. But I could barely see standard mapper who wants to put 2 taiko diff in his/her mapset and no standard mapper wants to fill his/her mapset with 3 or more taiko diff...)
Shulin
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Joined August 2009
Shulin
Sorry I should have been more specific.

00:12:325 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - kkd d repetition.
01:05:507 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - Repetition also, I thought a dkd pattern sounded better.
02:01:611 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - ^ Repeat of this pattern

By repetetive I meant there's a lot of kkd and ddk patterns but less kdk and dkd patterns, but I don't know much about making taiko difficulties I just play them.

lepidopodus wrote:

Well yeah, Oni is hard to lots of taiko player.

Yep that's all I meant, didn't mean the patterns were bad just that most taiko players on osu! find them difficult :P
lepidopodus
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lepidopodus

Shulin wrote:

00:12:325 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - kkd d repetition. fixed. it's not that repetitive now.
01:05:507 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - Repetition also, I thought a dkd pattern sounded better. Uh... I put some kind of 'rule', you can see changing pattern : d ddk -> d ddk d d ddk -> d ddk d d ddk d / d kkd -> d kkd d d kkd -> d kkd d d kkd d. Well I think I should ask more players before I change all of kkd->dkd in this part.
02:01:611 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - ^ Repeat of this pattern ^
Thanks for modding and sorry for misunderstanding. :)
Well ddk/kkd is relativly easy pattern and as I don't want to make the map too hard, I put bunch of ddk/kkd. Maybe it can be boring somehow.
(I'm kinda anxious about some happenings about osu taiko these days... I think that's why I overreacted.)

EDIT :
fixed 00:12:325 (24~54) once more. maybe better? hmm....

Download: Family Force 5 - The First Time (0_o) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni].osu
0_o
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0_o
Updated.
CheeseWarlock
osu! Alumni
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CheeseWarlock
Would you mind cropping the .mp3? AIMod suggests it and you've got a nice point for a fade-out.

And you've got such a nice custom colour it's a shame the rest are defaults. You could stick with a palette like the background, or throw in a nice sea green, somewhere around 30, 234, 101... your call though.
GladiOol
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Joined August 2008
GladiOol
ffs, rank this.
Larto
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Larto
Offset: 126, I'm pretty sure.

EDIT: Bubbled.
yaya
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