13:00 Z3nx: ohai
13:00 Z3nx: which map do you wanna clear first
13:01 Blocko: uhh
13:03 Blocko: achromat
13:03 Z3nx: o ok
13:03 Z3nx: uhh link 
13:03 Z3nx: i need to redl
13:04 Z3nx: my laptop doesn't have achromat lol
13:04 Blocko: a
13:11 Z3nx: r u even planning to irc
13:13 Blocko: ye sorry
13:13 Blocko: someone asked me to playtest
13:13 Z3nx: lomo
13:13 Blocko: a
13:13 Blocko: u redy
13:14 Z3nx: downloading achromat for the 10th time
13:14 Blocko: hue
13:14 Z3nx: school internet cuts me off every 10 seconds or something
13:15 Z3nx: gonna test and tell u wud i thunk
13:16 Blocko: ay
13:19 Z3nx: one thing that i kinda noticed is that uhh
13:19 Z3nx: 01:01:179 - these kind of hammers
13:19 Z3nx: is harder than another ( by a bit )
13:19 Z3nx: since you're hammering with both hands 
13:20 Z3nx: whereas another uses 1 and then another 
13:20 Blocko: oh true
13:20 Blocko: do i make the hammers one handed
13:20 Z3nx: hmm
13:20 Z3nx: you can probably uhhh
13:21 Z3nx: 02:15:361 (135361|4,135361|6,135482|3,135482|5,135603|3,135603|5,135725|4,135846|5,135846|3,135967|3,135967|5,136088|4,136088|6,136452|4,136452|6,136573|3,136573|5,136694|3,136694|5,136815|6,136815|4,136937|5,136937|3,137058|5,137058|3,137179|4,137179|6) -  do something like the pattern later on
13:21 Z3nx: but i noticed this is biased also
13:21 Z3nx: so you might wanna flip it
13:21 Z3nx:  breaking PR though
13:23 Blocko: hm
13:23 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145649 how about this?]
13:23 Z3nx: it's kinda biased towards the usage of the thumb for both players but i kinda assume that the thumb ( for both parties of left/right thumb players ) will be more comfortable with the jack on the thumb
13:23 Z3nx: uhhh no
13:23 Blocko: i tried
13:23 Z3nx: [123][123][13] is weird
13:24 Z3nx: uhhh
13:24 Z3nx: [124][124][123] can work
13:24 Z3nx: or [124][124][12/23]
13:24 Z3nx: trust me im a chord expert
13:26 Blocko: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145654 like this?
13:26 Z3nx: this kinda looks weird but eh it plays ok for me http://puu.sh/hSF76/96a2ebb535.jpg
13:26 Z3nx: that should be ok
13:27 Blocko: it kinda plays well for me
13:27 Blocko: on mine, that is
13:27 Z3nx: you kinda lose some notes but ok
13:29 Blocko: soooo
13:29 Blocko: good enough?
13:29 Z3nx: did you flip it on the next pattern
13:29 Blocko: ye
13:29 Z3nx: o ok
13:30 Z3nx: wud abut 02:16:361 (136361|0,136406|2,136452|4,136452|6,136573|3,136573|5,136694|3,136694|5,136815|4,136815|2,136815|6,136937|3,136937|5,136937|1,137058|5,137058|3,137058|1,137179|0,137179|2,137179|4,137179|6) - 
13:30 Z3nx: did u frip
13:30 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145661 looks like this now]
13:30 Blocko: flipped
13:30 Z3nx: that's it for the concerning stuff so
13:31 Z3nx: might wanna structure this [12][3]
13:31 Z3nx: 00:18:270 (18270|2,18270|1,18361|0) - 
13:31 Z3nx: this chord to note is kinda like an awkward hand movement ( for me )
13:31 Blocko: done
13:32 Z3nx: 00:29:906 (29906|3,30270|3) -  shield this?
13:32 Blocko: applied that btw
13:32 Z3nx: o ok
13:32 Z3nx: shield that for a bigger impact imo
13:32 Blocko: alright
13:32 Blocko: shielded
13:33 Z3nx: if i remember correctly
13:33 Z3nx: jin 00:55:725 (55725|5,56270|4) -  staired in between these notes
13:33 Z3nx: which kinda represents the piano pitch going down
13:34 Z3nx: kinda interesting imo, might wanna try something like that if possible
13:34 Blocko: hm
13:34 Z3nx: 01:00:088 (60088|5,60634|2) -  same here
13:35 Blocko: i kinda changed the pattern to at least follow the piano pitch going down
13:36 Blocko: well, i tried
13:36 Z3nx: mm
13:36 Z3nx: highly suggest to stair this instead of chording though
13:36 Z3nx: 01:00:270 (60270|4,60270|6,60452|5,60452|3) - 
13:37 Blocko: done
13:37 Blocko: i was focusing the drums here, but stair seems to fit much better
13:37 Z3nx: the hats are kinda light
13:37 Z3nx: idk, i feel that this map should be more piano-driven
13:38 Z3nx: 01:10:270 (70270|6,70270|3,70270|0,70634|6,70634|3,70634|0) -  might wanna differentiate these chords with PR here
13:38 Blocko: alright
13:39 Z3nx: 01:21:725 - i think this will probably be coo http://puu.sh/hSFFK/b250f3acc5.jpg
13:40 Z3nx: following painoz
13:41 Blocko: kaiden
13:41 Z3nx: nice
13:44 Z3nx: hmm
13:44 Z3nx: 01:36:452 (96452|6,96634|0) -  you might wanna cut/change the LN positioning w/e crap
13:44 Z3nx: hold on imma screen
13:45 Z3nx: http://puu.sh/hSFSx/91b1ca1e19.jpg
13:45 Z3nx: the LNs are abit far apart so you might wanna change le positioning
13:46 Blocko: noice
13:47 Z3nx: 01:38:634 (98634|5,98634|4,98725|6) -  i kinda wanna point this out
13:47 Z3nx: but idk how you gonna change this
13:48 Z3nx: cause the [56][7] is _slightly_ awk
13:48 Blocko: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145683 like this?]
13:48 Z3nx: why are some of your lines missing
13:48 Z3nx: but ok
13:49 Z3nx: anyways
13:49 Blocko: because that's oss
13:49 Z3nx: 01:41:361 (101361|2,101452|3,101543|4) -  you might wanna emphasize on these drum w/e thing triplet
13:49 Z3nx: 01:41:270 (101270|3) -  so you might wanna remove thiz
13:49 Z3nx: or just move it somewhere
13:49 Z3nx: it's kinda like blending in to the triplet 
13:50 Blocko: moved it somewhere
13:50 Blocko: but i did rearrange the pattern around it to accomodate that spot
13:50 Z3nx: o ok
13:51 Z3nx: 01:44:088 (104088|5,104179|3,104270|4,104361|5,104452|6) -  might wanna somehow make this into uhh 76567
13:51 Z3nx: for piano
13:51 Blocko: muh pitch
13:51 Z3nx: 01:43:997 (103997|4,104088|5) - the streams connecting together in 1 piece kinda doesn't fit wel
13:52 Blocko: hm
13:52 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145688 this ok?]
13:52 Blocko: inb4 lines missing
13:52 Z3nx: wow why are your lines missing
13:52 Z3nx: ye that's ok
13:53 Blocko: it's oss ok
13:53 Z3nx: ye kno
13:53 Z3nx: it's kinda weird dat
13:54 Z3nx: 01:50:634 (110634|0,110815|2,110997|1,111179|3,111361|2) -  01:52:088 (112088|1,112270|3,112452|0,112634|1,112815|2) - is different in feeling
13:54 Blocko: a
13:55 Z3nx: a.k.a change to note 01:52:634 (112634|1) -  and move to right
13:56 Blocko: alright
13:57 Z3nx: r u plannin 2 nerf dis
13:57 Z3nx: 02:15:725 (135725|0,135725|2,135725|4,135846|1,135846|5,135846|3,135967|5,135967|1,135967|3,136088|0,136088|4,136088|2,136088|6) - 
13:57 Z3nx: to 1 hand or w/e
13:58 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145697 this ok?]
13:59 Z3nx: uhhh ok
14:00 Z3nx: uhhhh
14:00 Blocko: um
14:00 Z3nx: 02:44:088 (164088|6,164088|4,164209|3,164331|3,164452|5,164573|4,164694|4,164815|6,164937|5,165058|5) -  it's kinda hard considering right thumbs have to hammer 7 times in a row
14:00 Z3nx: 02:46:028 (166028|3,166028|1,166149|3,166149|1,166270|0,166391|2,166512|2,166634|1,166755|3,166876|3,166997|0,166997|2) -  same goes for left
14:00 Z3nx: suggesting that you change the middle 1/1 chords into 1 noters
14:01 Z3nx: so it doesn't stress too much on le jacks
14:02 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145703 i sorta tried]
14:02 Blocko: inb4 missing lines
14:02 Z3nx: yea that can work
14:03 Z3nx: aaand that's that

18:42 Tidek: achromat?
18:42 Z3nx: o now?
18:42 Tidek: iJinjin told me to poke u for irc check
18:42 Z3nx: imma go out in a bit but i think we can finish it quick cause 4k
18:43 Tidek: k
18:43 Z3nx: imma just test it and giv onions
18:43 Tidek: its already checked by few BNs
18:43 Tidek: almost everything should be perfect
18:43 Z3nx: aight
18:46 Z3nx: looks pretty solid from the testplay
18:46 Z3nx: though i would like to point out some stufz
18:46 Z3nx: 00:03:543 (3543|0,3725|2) -  minor thing : hammer this for PR
18:47 Tidek: 113?
18:47 Z3nx: ye
18:48 Z3nx: 00:13:543 (13543|3,13725|1,13906|3,13906|2,14088|1,14088|0,14270|1,14270|2,14270|0) - i would hammer these 5 points over and over again to show the increase in intensity of the piano
18:48 Z3nx: http://puu.sh/hYyel/5e5f8c91f4.jpg
18:50 Tidek: hmm, looks good
18:50 Tidek: done
18:50 Z3nx: 01:14:270 (74270|1,74361|2,74452|0,74543|3,74588|2,74634|1) - personally think this increase in intensity of the song doesn't really reflect in the patterning here
18:51 Z3nx: 01:14:634 - might wanna end with a 2-note or 3 note chord
18:54 Tidek: hmm
18:54 Tidek: not sure about that
18:54 Tidek: if i add note on 1, flow will be pretty strange
18:54 Z3nx: or you can just add more notes here, single stream felt rather underwhelming for me
18:54 Z3nx: as in light 1/4 streams here
18:54 Z3nx: pretty sure there are more snaps ( according to flrn's dif )
18:56 Z3nx: something like this is what i'm thinking http://puu.sh/hYyxF/bcda03e3cf.jpg
18:58 Tidek: looks interesting
18:58 Tidek: but not sure about it after 01:14:815 (74815|0,74997|0,75179|2) -
18:59 Z3nx: i think it's enough break time for players to recover
18:59 Z3nx: and hit those 1/2s
19:00 Tidek: ok then
19:00 Z3nx:   00:47:725 - kinda feel that you can hammer more 1/2s in this section
19:01 Z3nx:  there's an (almost) constant 1/2 hammering in the piano here
19:01 Z3nx: 02:01:906 - same here
19:03 Tidek: 00:50:270 (50270|1) - moved this to 2
19:04 Tidek: will stay with alternates
19:04 Z3nx: ah ok
19:05 Z3nx: 02:28:179 (148179|2,148270|1,148361|0,148452|2,148543|1,148634|3,148725|0,148770|1,148815|2) -  o and change this also
19:05 Z3nx: after that the rest should be ok
19:05 Tidek: did it already
19:05 Z3nx: o ok den
19:06 Tidek: thats all? xd
19:06 Z3nx: yea, i don't really wanna pick on technical stuff lol
19:06 Z3nx: just looking at playability stuf

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13:00 Z3nx: ohai
13:00 Z3nx: which map do you wanna clear first
13:01 Blocko: uhh
13:03 Blocko: achromat
13:03 Z3nx: o ok
13:03 Z3nx: uhh link 
13:03 Z3nx: i need to redl
13:04 Z3nx: my laptop doesn't have achromat lol
13:04 Blocko: a
13:11 Z3nx: r u even planning to irc
13:13 Blocko: ye sorry
13:13 Blocko: someone asked me to playtest
13:13 Z3nx: lomo
13:13 Blocko: a
13:13 Blocko: u redy
13:14 Z3nx: downloading achromat for the 10th time
13:14 Blocko: hue
13:14 Z3nx: school internet cuts me off every 10 seconds or something
13:15 Z3nx: gonna test and tell u wud i thunk
13:16 Blocko: ay
13:19 Z3nx: one thing that i kinda noticed is that uhh
13:19 Z3nx: 01:01:179 - these kind of hammers
13:19 Z3nx: is harder than another ( by a bit )
13:19 Z3nx: since you're hammering with both hands 
13:20 Z3nx: whereas another uses 1 and then another 
13:20 Blocko: oh true
13:20 Blocko: do i make the hammers one handed
13:20 Z3nx: hmm
13:20 Z3nx: you can probably uhhh
13:21 Z3nx: 02:15:361 (135361|4,135361|6,135482|3,135482|5,135603|3,135603|5,135725|4,135846|5,135846|3,135967|3,135967|5,136088|4,136088|6,136452|4,136452|6,136573|3,136573|5,136694|3,136694|5,136815|6,136815|4,136937|5,136937|3,137058|5,137058|3,137179|4,137179|6) -  do something like the pattern later on
13:21 Z3nx: but i noticed this is biased also
13:21 Z3nx: so you might wanna flip it
13:21 Z3nx:  breaking PR though
13:23 Blocko: hm
13:23 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145649 how about this?]
13:23 Z3nx: it's kinda biased towards the usage of the thumb for both players but i kinda assume that the thumb ( for both parties of left/right thumb players ) will be more comfortable with the jack on the thumb
13:23 Z3nx: uhhh no
13:23 Blocko: i tried
13:23 Z3nx: [123][123][13] is weird
13:24 Z3nx: uhhh
13:24 Z3nx: [124][124][123] can work
13:24 Z3nx: or [124][124][12/23]
13:24 Z3nx: trust me im a chord expert
13:26 Blocko: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145654 like this?
13:26 Z3nx: this kinda looks weird but eh it plays ok for me http://puu.sh/hSF76/96a2ebb535.jpg
13:26 Z3nx: that should be ok
13:27 Blocko: it kinda plays well for me
13:27 Blocko: on mine, that is
13:27 Z3nx: you kinda lose some notes but ok
13:29 Blocko: soooo
13:29 Blocko: good enough?
13:29 Z3nx: did you flip it on the next pattern
13:29 Blocko: ye
13:29 Z3nx: o ok
13:30 Z3nx: wud abut 02:16:361 (136361|0,136406|2,136452|4,136452|6,136573|3,136573|5,136694|3,136694|5,136815|4,136815|2,136815|6,136937|3,136937|5,136937|1,137058|5,137058|3,137058|1,137179|0,137179|2,137179|4,137179|6) - 
13:30 Z3nx: did u frip
13:30 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145661 looks like this now]
13:30 Blocko: flipped
13:30 Z3nx: that's it for the concerning stuff so
13:31 Z3nx: might wanna structure this [12][3]
13:31 Z3nx: 00:18:270 (18270|2,18270|1,18361|0) - 
13:31 Z3nx: this chord to note is kinda like an awkward hand movement ( for me )
13:31 Blocko: done
13:32 Z3nx: 00:29:906 (29906|3,30270|3) -  shield this?
13:32 Blocko: applied that btw
13:32 Z3nx: o ok
13:32 Z3nx: shield that for a bigger impact imo
13:32 Blocko: alright
13:32 Blocko: shielded
13:33 Z3nx: if i remember correctly
13:33 Z3nx: jin 00:55:725 (55725|5,56270|4) -  staired in between these notes
13:33 Z3nx: which kinda represents the piano pitch going down
13:34 Z3nx: kinda interesting imo, might wanna try something like that if possible
13:34 Blocko: hm
13:34 Z3nx: 01:00:088 (60088|5,60634|2) -  same here
13:35 Blocko: i kinda changed the pattern to at least follow the piano pitch going down
13:36 Blocko: well, i tried
13:36 Z3nx: mm
13:36 Z3nx: highly suggest to stair this instead of chording though
13:36 Z3nx: 01:00:270 (60270|4,60270|6,60452|5,60452|3) - 
13:37 Blocko: done
13:37 Blocko: i was focusing the drums here, but stair seems to fit much better
13:37 Z3nx: the hats are kinda light
13:37 Z3nx: idk, i feel that this map should be more piano-driven
13:38 Z3nx: 01:10:270 (70270|6,70270|3,70270|0,70634|6,70634|3,70634|0) -  might wanna differentiate these chords with PR here
13:38 Blocko: alright
13:39 Z3nx: 01:21:725 - i think this will probably be coo http://puu.sh/hSFFK/b250f3acc5.jpg
13:40 Z3nx: following painoz
13:41 Blocko: kaiden
13:41 Z3nx: nice
13:44 Z3nx: hmm
13:44 Z3nx: 01:36:452 (96452|6,96634|0) -  you might wanna cut/change the LN positioning w/e crap
13:44 Z3nx: hold on imma screen
13:45 Z3nx: http://puu.sh/hSFSx/91b1ca1e19.jpg
13:45 Z3nx: the LNs are abit far apart so you might wanna change le positioning
13:46 Blocko: noice
13:47 Z3nx: 01:38:634 (98634|5,98634|4,98725|6) -  i kinda wanna point this out
13:47 Z3nx: but idk how you gonna change this
13:48 Z3nx: cause the [56][7] is _slightly_ awk
13:48 Blocko: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145683 like this?]
13:48 Z3nx: why are some of your lines missing
13:48 Z3nx: but ok
13:49 Z3nx: anyways
13:49 Blocko: because that's oss
13:49 Z3nx: 01:41:361 (101361|2,101452|3,101543|4) -  you might wanna emphasize on these drum w/e thing triplet
13:49 Z3nx: 01:41:270 (101270|3) -  so you might wanna remove thiz
13:49 Z3nx: or just move it somewhere
13:49 Z3nx: it's kinda like blending in to the triplet 
13:50 Blocko: moved it somewhere
13:50 Blocko: but i did rearrange the pattern around it to accomodate that spot
13:50 Z3nx: o ok
13:51 Z3nx: 01:44:088 (104088|5,104179|3,104270|4,104361|5,104452|6) -  might wanna somehow make this into uhh 76567
13:51 Z3nx: for piano
13:51 Blocko: muh pitch
13:51 Z3nx: 01:43:997 (103997|4,104088|5) - the streams connecting together in 1 piece kinda doesn't fit wel
13:52 Blocko: hm
13:52 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145688 this ok?]
13:52 Blocko: inb4 lines missing
13:52 Z3nx: wow why are your lines missing
13:52 Z3nx: ye that's ok
13:53 Blocko: it's oss ok
13:53 Z3nx: ye kno
13:53 Z3nx: it's kinda weird dat
13:54 Z3nx: 01:50:634 (110634|0,110815|2,110997|1,111179|3,111361|2) -  01:52:088 (112088|1,112270|3,112452|0,112634|1,112815|2) - is different in feeling
13:54 Blocko: a
13:55 Z3nx: a.k.a change to note 01:52:634 (112634|1) -  and move to right
13:56 Blocko: alright
13:57 Z3nx: r u plannin 2 nerf dis
13:57 Z3nx: 02:15:725 (135725|0,135725|2,135725|4,135846|1,135846|5,135846|3,135967|5,135967|1,135967|3,136088|0,136088|4,136088|2,136088|6) - 
13:57 Z3nx: to 1 hand or w/e
13:58 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145697 this ok?]
13:59 Z3nx: uhhh ok
14:00 Z3nx: uhhhh
14:00 Blocko: um
14:00 Z3nx: 02:44:088 (164088|6,164088|4,164209|3,164331|3,164452|5,164573|4,164694|4,164815|6,164937|5,165058|5) -  it's kinda hard considering right thumbs have to hammer 7 times in a row
14:00 Z3nx: 02:46:028 (166028|3,166028|1,166149|3,166149|1,166270|0,166391|2,166512|2,166634|1,166755|3,166876|3,166997|0,166997|2) -  same goes for left
14:00 Z3nx: suggesting that you change the middle 1/1 chords into 1 noters
14:01 Z3nx: so it doesn't stress too much on le jacks
14:02 Blocko: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3145703 i sorta tried]
14:02 Blocko: inb4 missing lines
14:02 Z3nx: yea that can work
14:03 Z3nx: aaand that's that

18:42 Tidek: achromat?
18:42 Z3nx: o now?
18:42 Tidek: iJinjin told me to poke u for irc check
18:42 Z3nx: imma go out in a bit but i think we can finish it quick cause 4k
18:43 Tidek: k
18:43 Z3nx: imma just test it and giv onions
18:43 Tidek: its already checked by few BNs
18:43 Tidek: almost everything should be perfect
18:43 Z3nx: aight
18:46 Z3nx: looks pretty solid from the testplay
18:46 Z3nx: though i would like to point out some stufz
18:46 Z3nx: 00:03:543 (3543|0,3725|2) -  minor thing : hammer this for PR
18:47 Tidek: 113?
18:47 Z3nx: ye
18:48 Z3nx: 00:13:543 (13543|3,13725|1,13906|3,13906|2,14088|1,14088|0,14270|1,14270|2,14270|0) - i would hammer these 5 points over and over again to show the increase in intensity of the piano
18:48 Z3nx: http://puu.sh/hYyel/5e5f8c91f4.jpg
18:50 Tidek: hmm, looks good
18:50 Tidek: done
18:50 Z3nx: 01:14:270 (74270|1,74361|2,74452|0,74543|3,74588|2,74634|1) - personally think this increase in intensity of the song doesn't really reflect in the patterning here
18:51 Z3nx: 01:14:634 - might wanna end with a 2-note or 3 note chord
18:54 Tidek: hmm
18:54 Tidek: not sure about that
18:54 Tidek: if i add note on 1, flow will be pretty strange
18:54 Z3nx: or you can just add more notes here, single stream felt rather underwhelming for me
18:54 Z3nx: as in light 1/4 streams here
18:54 Z3nx: pretty sure there are more snaps ( according to flrn's dif )
18:56 Z3nx: something like this is what i'm thinking http://puu.sh/hYyxF/bcda03e3cf.jpg
18:58 Tidek: looks interesting
18:58 Tidek: but not sure about it after 01:14:815 (74815|0,74997|0,75179|2) -
18:59 Z3nx: i think it's enough break time for players to recover
18:59 Z3nx: and hit those 1/2s
19:00 Tidek: ok then
19:00 Z3nx:   00:47:725 - kinda feel that you can hammer more 1/2s in this section
19:01 Z3nx:  there's an (almost) constant 1/2 hammering in the piano here
19:01 Z3nx: 02:01:906 - same here
19:03 Tidek: 00:50:270 (50270|1) - moved this to 2
19:04 Tidek: will stay with alternates
19:04 Z3nx: ah ok
19:05 Z3nx: 02:28:179 (148179|2,148270|1,148361|0,148452|2,148543|1,148634|3,148725|0,148770|1,148815|2) -  o and change this also
19:05 Z3nx: after that the rest should be ok
19:05 Tidek: did it already
19:05 Z3nx: o ok den
19:06 Tidek: thats all? xd
19:06 Z3nx: yea, i don't really wanna pick on technical stuff lol
19:06 Z3nx: just looking at playability stuf

14:04 Fullerene-: a
14:04 Z3nx: e
14:04 Z3nx: not really much stuff to point out tbh
14:04 Z3nx: prolly like 2 
14:04 Z3nx: and 1 major one that kinda ticks me off
14:05 Z3nx: are you racist against right handers
14:05 Fullerene-: i'm actually really really bad at left handed stuff
14:05 Z3nx:  w
14:05 Z3nx: cause uh
14:06 Z3nx: there are 3 triplet 16th hammers on the left hand
14:06 Z3nx: and 1 of those on the right
14:06 Z3nx: i counted
14:06 Z3nx: cause idk what else is wrong
14:06 Fullerene-: where?
14:06 Z3nx: 01:13:543 (73543|0,73634|0,73725|0) -  1
14:06 Z3nx: 01:00:634 (60634|1,60725|1,60815|1) -  2
14:07 Z3nx: 02:14:815 (134815|2,134906|2,134997|2) - 3
14:07 Z3nx: 02:27:725 (147725|1,147815|1,147906|1) - 4
14:07 Z3nx: just maybe, for the sake of right handers, move 1 of the triplet jack to the right
14:08 Fullerene-: originally all 4 of those instances were on left hand
14:08 Z3nx: wow why 
14:08 Z3nx: ; _ ;
14:09 Fullerene-: percussion is usually a left hand thing for me
14:09 Z3nx: ah
14:09 Fullerene-: also imo those jacks are pretty isolated and sparse
14:10 Z3nx:  hmm ok then, well move if you wanna ; _ ;
14:11 Fullerene-: apparently the version i have is out of date so maybe jinjin did stuff on my diff
14:11 Fullerene-: probably hitsounds
14:11 Z3nx: jin is mad
14:13 Z3nx: aa
14:14 Fullerene-: anytyhing ekoanekjal else?
14:14 Z3nx: the rest is probably just PR modding if can be bothered to do this
14:14 Z3nx: not really anything else very concerning that would cause an unrank
14:14 Fullerene-: SV too excessive
14:14 Z3nx: nah SVs are coo
14:15 Fullerene-: using values over 1.5x aARRGHH
14:15 Z3nx: stop killing players
14:15 Z3nx: do u wanna do PR shit y/n
14:16 Fullerene-: uh
14:16 Fullerene-: sure
14:16 Z3nx: w
14:16 Z3nx: 00:06:179 (6179|2,6225|1,6270|3) - well ok den
14:17 Z3nx: suggest this to be uh 432
14:17 Z3nx: 00:05:543 (5543|3,5543|1,5906|0,5906|2) -  since, looking at the chordz
14:17 Z3nx: they are descending
14:17 Z3nx:  then move the notes after it or w/e
14:18 Z3nx: 00:13:725 (13725|1,13906|2,13906|0) - suggest to hammer something cuz PR piano stuff thing
14:19 Z3nx: 00:18:088 (18088|3,18179|1,18270|3) -  trill on the right for piano stuff
14:21 Z3nx: 01:36:634 (96634|3) - move to 3 for PR stuff
14:21 Fullerene-: ah fuc
14:22 Z3nx: are you cba-ed now
14:22 Fullerene-: nah not that
14:22 Fullerene-: i noticed the grace notes are snapped wrong
14:22 Z3nx: wow i trusted you
14:22 Fullerene-: some of the 1/8 graces were 1/12
14:22 Fullerene-: 00:14:058 (14058|2) -
14:22 Fullerene-: shieeeet jinjin's diffs have 1/12 grace too
14:23 Z3nx: jin trusted you
14:23 Z3nx: and probably a few other diffs
14:23 Fullerene-: i don't know when or how they messed up like that
14:23 Z3nx: did they all snap to 1/12
14:23 Fullerene-: no
14:23 Fullerene-: that's the weird part
14:24 Fullerene-: most of them are 1/8 like they should
14:24 Fullerene-: or maybe he changed them himself
14:24 Z3nx: mayyybe you were changing the SVs and you ticked the snap objects  ? _ ?
14:25 Z3nx: idk ask jin
14:26 Fullerene-: oh damn
14:26 Fullerene-: 00:10:725 (10725|1,10770|2) - this is actually 1/8 starting from the 1/1
14:26 Fullerene-: But the 1/12 grace seems correct i think
14:27 Z3nx: uhhh
14:27 Z3nx: i don't hear a note 1/8 after the 1/1 though
14:27 Z3nx: unless it's some ddream shit 
14:27 Fullerene-: sorry
14:27 Fullerene-: 00:13:225 - meant here
14:27 Z3nx: o
14:27 Fullerene-: which i ddin't put 1/8 but jinjin did
14:27 Fullerene-: the first one is correct with 3 notes
14:29 Fullerene-: and another thing, most of the PR i used isn't really strict after seeing it agaion
14:29 Fullerene-: more emphasis on ~expressive~ patterns and only PRing the general direction of the notes
14:29 Z3nx: mm
14:30 Z3nx: 00:13:225 - how are you snapping this though
14:31 Fullerene-: it's 1\8
14:31 Fullerene-: i just forgot to put a note in between the 1/4 and 1/1
14:31 Fullerene-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3169621
14:31 Z3nx: it's probably just me that hears 3 notes there
14:32 Z3nx: cause i don't hear a 1/4 after the 1/1
14:34 Fullerene-: it sounds like 3 notes on oss
14:34 Fullerene-: ty based pitch shift
14:35 Z3nx: ty for ddream 
14:35 Fullerene-: but it's 4 notes i'm 100% certain
14:35 Fullerene-: and jinjin used full 1/8 there
14:35 Fullerene-: so
14:35 Z3nx: ok i trust flrn
14:35 Z3nx: as long as you say that it's correct
14:35 Z3nx: noone will complain
14:35 Fullerene-: so all i need to do is add 1 note for each instance \:D?
14:35 Fullerene-: a
14:35 Z3nx: jin just has to quote you saying that achromat is snapped correctly
14:36 Z3nx: a
14:36 Z3nx: r u done checking all the snaps though
14:37 Fullerene-: "if you think hear something snapped wrong then stop using osu's audio slowdown implementation and open the mp3 in a program that isn't shit
14:37 Fullerene-: i
14:37 Fullerene-: i'm going through now
14:37 Z3nx: o
14:37 Z3nx: 02:28:270 (148270|0,148315|1,148361|3,148406|2,148452|1,148543|3,148634|1,148634|0,148679|2,148725|3,148770|0,148815|1,148815|2,148815|3) -  r u 100% of this snap
14:38 Z3nx: cause i kinda made tidek do more 1/8s here
14:38 Fullerene-: 95% but lemme check again
14:38 Z3nx: and he might need to revert if it's a
14:38 Fullerene-: i keep closing and reopnening ddream
14:38 Fullerene-: it crashes if i tab into a program using opengl
14:38 Fullerene-: aka osu
14:39 Fullerene-: so i have to have hexchat and osu open at the same time
14:39 Z3nx: efficiency
14:40 Fullerene-: yeah it's correct
14:40 Z3nx: coo
14:40 Fullerene-: though there can be a grace note at 02:28:815 -
14:40 Fullerene-: but eheh
14:40 Z3nx: hehehueh
14:40 Z3nx: it's already hard enough for 4*
14:41 Fullerene-: not really necessary yeah
14:41 Z3nx: it's already really anti-pp*
14:41 Fullerene-: yeah lmao
14:41 Fullerene-: the scoreboards are going to look a lot worse than tristan's diff
14:41 Z3nx: 5.43 on dt 
14:41 Z3nx: ? _ ?
14:41 Fullerene-: though the only thing making mine harder than his is SVs
14:41 Fullerene-: 5.43 rofl
14:42 Fullerene-: the reactions to my diff are going to be popcorn worthy
14:42 Z3nx: or maybe just filled with uh
14:42 Z3nx: memes
14:43 Z3nx: disqus is coo
14:43 Z3nx: don't think i can help with snaps honestly
14:43 Fullerene-: blame peppy
14:44 Z3nx:  i wanna use audacity but that sounds stupid
14:45 Z3nx: 00:41:179 (41179|0) -  chances of people getting pissed cause they 200ed this ???!?!
14:45 Fullerene-: 01:32:725 - changing my part here to be 1/8 triplet like jinjin's
14:45 Fullerene-: didn't really hear the piano over the brass there
14:46 Fullerene-: 00:41:179 (41179|0) - if anyone 200's this then they're bad
14:46 Fullerene-: i just hit it as a regular note ?_?
14:46 Z3nx: ouch 
14:46 Z3nx: i 200 everything else anyways w/e
14:46 Fullerene-: but then again bc of stepmania i tap/release really quickly
14:46 Fullerene-: basically trained myself to always tap for about 1/8 or 1/6 length
14:46 Fullerene-: makes noodles hard
14:47 Z3nx: good ability
14:51 Z3nx: r u gonna sleep in a bit
14:51 Fullerene-: maybe
14:51 Z3nx: so 50/50 you're staying overnight
14:52 Z3nx: i can prolly just poke on PR next time ( if you wanna )
14:52 Z3nx: since the main concern now is shnap
14:52 Z3nx: but i can't do anything about it so xd
14:53 Fullerene-: anything else?
14:53 Z3nx: a lot of thing else if i wanna poke about PR
14:53 Z3nx: but r u done checking the shnap
14:54 Fullerene-: sry i got sidetracked and started listening to this
14:54 *Fullerene- is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51159 DJ YOSHITAKA-G feat. Michael a La Mode - Gold Rush]
14:54 Z3nx: let me side track and listen to that also
14:54 Z3nx: the download is no longer availabrelela
14:54 Z3nx: fuck
14:54 Z3nx: nvm
14:55 Fullerene-: bloodcat my good friend of african descent
14:55 Z3nx: ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
14:55 Z3nx: but im lazer
14:56 Fullerene-: fucking legendary tier lyrics
14:56 Z3nx: ok imma dl
14:57 Fullerene-: http://bloodcat.com/osu/s/13879
14:57 Z3nx: thxassx
14:57 Fullerene-: it's yoshitaka's voice
14:58 Z3nx: he sounds like a drunk hobo
14:58 Fullerene-: get to the middle
14:58 Fullerene-: TOO DEE ECKS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD
14:58 Z3nx: TOO DEE ECKS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD
14:58 Z3nx: i don't even know what he's saying but i wanna know
14:59 Fullerene-: i'm michael in a boat
14:59 Z3nx: (Make it ! Make money !) many money is heavier than lives.
14:59 Z3nx: (Make it ! Make money !) Yeah ! Yeah ! Lets's do the money making !
15:00 Fullerene-: Yeah !
15:01 Z3nx: First style. SubStream, Second style. Third style. Fourth style. Fifth style. Sixth style. Seventh style. Eighth style. Ninth style. Tenth style. 2DXRED. Happy sky. DistorteD.
15:01 Z3nx: IIDX GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD !
15:03 Fullerene-: i wonder what this sounds like to someone who doesn't understand english
15:03 Z3nx: i think it sounds perfectly fine to them
15:06 Z3nx: asdfygwe just tell when u r done with shnaps
15:06 Z3nx: jin can probably wait
15:07 Fullerene-: k
15:11 Fullerene-: aarrrghh
15:11 Fullerene-: i think jinjin removed some notes
15:26 Z3nx: aa but why
15:26 Fullerene-: 01:50:209 - used to be a note here but it's gone idk
15:27 Fullerene-: also do you know how to check for unused files
15:27 Z3nx: uhhh
15:27 Z3nx: i think 1 guy has the program thing
15:27 Z3nx: i forgot who is that 1 guy
15:27 Fullerene-: are soft-hitnormal-old1 and old2 in your folder?
15:27 Fullerene-: the file name looks suspect
15:27 Z3nx: ye
15:27 Z3nx: uhh
15:28 Z3nx: probably just
15:28 Z3nx: ctrl+f all the diff files
15:28 Z3nx: on the hitsounds
15:28 Fullerene-: o
15:29 Fullerene-: o yeah fixed the snaps afaik
15:29 Z3nx: o  nice
15:29 Fullerene-: my diff doesn't use the old files
15:29 Fullerene-: i'll check the others
15:29 Z3nx: imma check it again at the qualify check anyways
15:30 Fullerene-: yeah it's unused in all the diffs
15:30 Fullerene-: i ctrl+f'd "old"
15:30 Fullerene-: since both files have old but a number at the end
15:30 Fullerene-: dodged a DQ there ehehe
15:30 Z3nx: wow!
15:30 Z3nx: now the problem is to not forget
15:31 Z3nx: and tell jin
15:31 Z3nx: and hope he doesn't forget
15:33 Z3nx: do u wanna continue with the PR stuff
15:35 Fullerene-: cba lOl
15:35 Z3nx: wwwwww
15:35 Z3nx: ok den
15:35 Fullerene-: kill mapper's spirit
15:35 Z3nx: i can see that once you started to listen to that weird yoshitaka thing
15:36 Fullerene-: gooooooooooooooooooooo
15:36 Z3nx: ld lights

10:18 Tristan97: You ready to irc?
10:19 Z3nx: aaaaa
10:19 Z3nx: i wanted to nap 40 minutes before ircing
10:19 Tristan97: you can if you want
10:19 Tristan97: I'll still be awake
10:20 Z3nx: oh okays ~
10:20 Tristan97: or a 40 minute pizza break
10:20 Tristan97: whatever you prefer
10:21 Z3nx: i wanna sleep ; _ ;
10:23 Tristan97: :p
11:02 Z3nx: ohi
11:02 Z3nx: wow im still sleepy
11:02 Z3nx: w/e
11:03 Z3nx: you there  ? _ ?
11:03 Tristan97: hey
11:04 Tristan97: yep
11:04 *Tristan97 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/520330 MiddleIsland - Achromat [Tristan97's 4K Another]]
11:05 Z3nx: let me just warm up and test this lol
11:07 Z3nx: have you gotten a bit of testplays on this?
11:07 Z3nx: as in other people
11:08 Tristan97: yep
11:08 Z3nx: hmm ok then
11:09 Tristan97: the thread has an entire section dedicated to testplays actually :p
11:09 Z3nx: never noticed
11:09 Z3nx: 00:33:543 (33543|2,33543|0,33543|3) -  anyways, change this to a 2noter
11:10 Z3nx: the piano is not that loud here
11:10 Z3nx: ugh dced
11:10 Tristan97: I testplayed it myself just now and got 97% on it, which seems just about right for these patterns
11:10 Tristan97: got it
11:10 Z3nx: you got the 00:33:543 (33543|3,33543|0,33543|2) -  line?
11:11 Z3nx: cuz idk when i dced
11:11 Tristan97: I'm gonna take out column 2
11:11 Z3nx:  o ok
11:12 Z3nx: 00:36:088 - might wanna add 1 here so that the impact is greater
11:12 Z3nx: using a minijack
11:12 Z3nx: i have absolutely no idea why my internet keeps cutting ; _ ;
11:13 Z3nx: http://puu.sh/i0Jkx/216df6174b.png just checking if you got this line http://puu.sh/i0Jkx/216df6174b.png
11:13 Z3nx: aaand i copy pasted twice
11:13 Tristan97: I got it
11:13 Tristan97: don't worry
11:14 Z3nx: 00:37:815 (37815|1) - isn't this a ghost ? _ ?
11:15 Tristan97: umm, I think it is
11:15 Tristan97: I noticed that in the testplay
11:15 Z3nx: 00:38:815 (38815|2,38997|3) -  might wanna hammer this due to piano technical w/e stuff
11:15 Tristan97: I'll remove it
11:15 Z3nx: aight
11:16 Tristan97: yeah that sounds good
11:16 Z3nx: did you add the minijack?
11:16 Z3nx: 00:41:815 (41815|1,41906|2,41906|0) -  if yes then add 1 minijack here also
11:17 Tristan97: Jinjin tells me that the note at 00:37:815 isn't a ghost and is actually a percussion sound in the background
11:17 Tristan97: I added the minijack
11:17 Z3nx: i don't hear it though lol
11:17 Tristan97: I don't either
11:17 Z3nx: owell ; _ ;
11:17 Tristan97: Jinjin and I decided to take it out
11:17 Tristan97: just so it doesn't cause confusion
11:20 Z3nx: 01:06:452 (66452|3,66543|2,66634|2,66634|3) -  kinda worried about consistency in terms on how you use minijacks in the chorus
11:20 Z3nx: 01:09:361 (69361|0,69361|1,69452|2,69543|0,69543|3,69543|1) - cause this is viable for one also
11:20 Z3nx: 01:17:179 (77179|2,77179|0,77270|1,77361|2,77361|3,77361|0) - 
11:20 Z3nx: might just wanna remove the minijack
11:21 Tristan97: I like the minijack pattern
11:21 Tristan97: maybe add it to 01:09:361 (69361|1,69361|0,69452|2,69543|1,69543|3,69543|0) - ?
11:21 Z3nx: yea, but you have to make it consistent throughout
11:22 Z3nx: add that if you wanna keep it imo
11:22 Z3nx: 01:12:270 (72270|2,72270|0,72452|0,72452|1,72452|3) -  minijack 1/4 here also
11:23 Z3nx: 01:12:815 (72815|0,72815|3,72815|1) - might wanna remove one here unless you have a special reason to keep this
11:25 Tristan97: Jinnjin's adding mini-jacks to the patterns at 1:09, 1:12, and 1:17
11:25 Tristan97: what about adding a note for the sound at 01:12:725 (72725|0) -
11:25 Tristan97: and then getting rid of the note in the same column where the chord is?
11:25 Z3nx: o ok
11:26 Z3nx: 01:18:088 (78088|2,78179|1,78270|2,78270|0) -  minijack thisz
11:26 Z3nx: 01:20:997 (80997|3,81088|2,81179|3) -  ^
11:27 Tristan97: mini-jacks added
11:28 Z3nx: 01:36:452 (96452|3,96634|1) - might wanna change this to uhh http://puu.sh/i0K98/503c6d0b30.jpg
11:29 Z3nx: idk what length you wanna put the 2nd LN to
11:30 Tristan97: I'd say end it at 01:36:997
11:30 Z3nx: o ok then
11:31 Z3nx: 01:44:634 (104634|2,104725|1,104815|3) -  might wanna trill this 323 or 434
11:31 Z3nx: for PR
11:31 Z3nx: 01:46:088 (106088|1,106179|0,106270|2) -  same here 212 or something
11:32 Tristan97: 323 for the first one
11:32 Tristan97: and 212 sounds good
11:33 Z3nx: 01:51:543 (111543|1,111725|0,111725|2) - you kinda lose 1 note if you do this, i suggest a shield instead 
11:33 Z3nx: but the LN of a shield will be so short that a normal note will suffice
11:33 Z3nx: so idk
11:34 Tristan97: I feel that
11:35 Z3nx:   up to you if you wanna change
11:35 Tristan97: making the LN end 1/4 earlier and keeping the chord 'bursts' constant
11:35 Z3nx:  i kinda feel that a LN only felt underwhelming
11:35 Tristan97: yeah
11:36 Tristan97: it should be a better pattern too for DT and so on
11:36 Z3nx: don't think anyone would dt this tbh
11:36 Z3nx: 1/3 jacks kinda ruin all dt runs
11:36 Tristan97: hmm, I maybe
11:36 Tristan97: I was only saying that because of relative difficulty compared to other stuff
11:37 Z3nx: hmm yeap, the star rating is tricky on this
11:37 Z3nx: or on flrn's diff
11:37 Z3nx: depends
11:37 Z3nx: it's just uhh weird
11:37 Tristan97: yeah, it really is
11:38 Z3nx: though i would rate your diff almost equally as hard as flrn's one
11:38 Tristan97: I mean, people will crave pp until the end of time
11:38 Tristan97: mine used to be easier, actually
11:42 Z3nx: 02:26:452 (146452|0,146452|2,146634|3,146634|1,146634|0) -  uhh minijax
11:42 Tristan97: got it
11:43 Z3nx: yea that should beeee
11:43 Z3nx: it
11:43 Z3nx: unless i missed some minijax on the 2 choruses
11:44 Tristan97: I'll take your word for it
11:44 Z3nx: check it if you're not lazy
11:44 Tristan97: I'll just tell Jinjin to fix any if he hasn't already