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From my queue

Muzukashii
00:58:911 (86,87,88,89) - Ctrl+G
01:50:701 (86,87,88,89) - Ctrl+G
Good Muzu ~

Oni
00:32:307 (151) - d
00:41:859 (201) - d
00:42:332 (204) - d
00:50:385 (58) - k
00:50:859 (62) - d
00:51:016 (63,64) - k
00:58:280 (118,119,120) - dkd
00:58:832 (123) - d
01:44:780 (76) - k
01:46:201 (88) - k

Inner Oni
00:32:307 (166) - d
01:22:280 (105) - d

WereOni
00:09:726 (46) - d
00:20:307 (135) - d
00:31:833 (185) - , 00:31:912 (186) - add d
00:32:307 (191) - d
00:38:069 (218) - , 00:38:385 (220) - k
01:21:806 (119) - , 01:21:885 (120) - add d
01:22:280 (125) - d

Good Luck ~ :)
Topic Starter
Nwolf

[I]MMoRTal[S] wrote:

From my queue

Muzukashii
00:58:911 (86,87,88,89) - Ctrl+G snare on 2/4
01:50:701 (86,87,88,89) - Ctrl+G ^
Good Muzu ~

Oni
00:32:307 (151) - d find it easier with kat, supposed to be easy :> (also is kat section)
00:41:859 (201) - d done
00:42:332 (204) - d d D :<
00:50:385 (58) - k done
00:50:859 (62) - d done
00:51:016 (63,64) - k only applied first kat
00:58:280 (118,119,120) - dkd done
00:58:832 (123) - d high pitch on both notes
01:44:780 (76) - k
01:46:201 (88) - k done both

Inner Oni
00:32:307 (166) - d same as Onion

WereOni
00:09:726 (46) - d 00:10:989 (54) - dis note :>
00:20:307 (135) - d done
00:31:833 (185) - , 00:31:912 (186) - add d nu
00:32:307 (191) - d same as lower diffs
00:38:069 (218) - , 00:38:385 (220) - k gonna think about kats here

Good Luck ~ :)
thanks^^
Effy
Woof again.

[Kantan]

00:40:595 (39) - Change to d since the beat is the same than 00:40:280 (38) -
00:41:543 (41) - Change to k same reason ^
01:01:438 (47) - change to d ^
01:49:438 (41,42) - Switch color because the higher sound is d and you used to use k so..

That's all for the Kantan I guess.


[Futsuu]

00:13:675 (39) - Change to k
00:18:728 (56,57,58) - Better change to kdk instead of dkd that'd be more suitable since you did this earlier
00:22:675 (70) - Change to k
00:22:517 (69,70) - I recommend to change K to k and D to d
00:58:911 (59) - Change to d
01:01:438 (68) - ^
01:12:648 (36) - Change to k if you follow 01:09:964 (27,28) - and 01:11:227 (31,32) -
01:33:016 (108,109) - Change to d more suitable in my opinion (because the beat change if you can hear)

[Muzukashii]

00:17:465 (73) - Change to k
00:22:675 (94) - ^
00:44:859 (12) - Change to d
00:45:490 (15) - Change to k
00:56:543 (73,74) - Change to d
01:00:490 (92) - ^
01:12:648 (53) - Change to k

[Oni]

01:12:648 (64) - Change to k
01:45:016 - Maybe add a k?
01:51:964 (126) - maybe remove the finish? since there isn't any high sound or whatever

I really like the oni so I guess I don't have many things to say^^


[Inner Oni]

00:22:675 (132) - Change to k
00:32:307 (166) - Change to d
00:41:543 (214) - ^
00:59:701 (156) - Change to k
01:12:648 (71) - ^
01:22:280 (105) - Change to d
01:51:964 (164) - Remove finish

[WereOni]

EH? XD

00:32:307 (189) - Change to d

+ Rename to Were777's oni! (Future Firce777 taiko style mapper)
Ok it was a joke, such a stream map, like it ahah!


I just suggested things, as you want now!


Good luck~
Neku Okazaki
[Kantan]
00:04:833 - d
00:07:359 - d
00:09:885 (18) - d
00:46:911 (12) - Delete
00:52:911 (26) - Delete | kKd is too hard
00:59:227 (41,42) - Ctrl + G
01:09:648 (16) - Delete | I say this ^
01:24:174 (49,50,51) - d d d
01:25:122 (52) - Delete
01:26:701 (55,56,57) - d d d
01:29:227 (62,63,64) - ^
01:34:911 (3) - Delete
01:37:753 (10) - Delete
01:40:280 (16) - ^
01:42:806 (22) - Delete
01:51:017 (41) - d

[Futsuu]
00:22:675 (70) - k
00:28:044 (85) - d | Is too hard
00:34:833 (106,107,108) - Make this 00:34:201 (103,104,105) -
01:12:648 (36) - d
01:43:122 (34) - d

[Muzukashii]
01:12:648 (53) - K

Good onis ~
Topic Starter
Nwolf
Shina

Shina wrote:

Woof again.

[Kantan]

00:40:595 (39) - Change to d since the beat is the same than 00:40:280 (38) - changed to dkd to follow the snare as I did previously :>
00:41:543 (41) - Change to k same reason ^ has to be don though due to 42 (and 42 can't be kat)
01:01:438 (47) - change to d ^ changed
01:49:438 (41,42) - Switch color because the higher sound is d and you used to use k so.. snare....-ish instrument

That's all for the Kantan I guess.


[Futsuu]

00:13:675 (39) - Change to k don't like it
00:18:728 (56,57,58) - Better change to kdk instead of dkd that'd be more suitable since you did this earlier changed to kdd instead
00:22:675 (70) - Change to k want more emphasis on 71 though, that's why this is don
00:22:517 (69,70) - I recommend to change K to k and D to d guess that would make it easier, especially for Futsuu... gonna think about this more
00:58:911 (59) - Change to d changed
01:01:438 (68) - ^ want the synth as kat
01:12:648 (36) - Change to k if you follow 01:09:964 (27,28) - and 01:11:227 (31,32) - same as previous one
01:33:016 (108,109) - Change to d more suitable in my opinion (because the beat change if you can hear) done

[Muzukashii]

00:17:465 (73) - Change to k doesn't work with the big kat on next note :<
00:22:675 (94) - ^ same as futsuu
00:44:859 (12) - Change to d actually it's always pairs of the same triplet
00:45:490 (15) - Change to k ^
00:56:543 (73,74) - Change to d only changed 73 (snare rhythm on 74) (I do get the idea of doing mirror pattern though^^)
01:00:490 (92) - ^ ^
01:12:648 (53) - Change to k same as futsuu

[Oni]

01:45:016 - Maybe add a k? Added a note on 01:45:095 - instead
01:51:964 (126) - maybe remove the finish? since there isn't any high sound or whatever lol I mapped this different in all diffs, changed to simple kat

I really like the oni so I guess I don't have many things to say^^


[Inner Oni]

00:32:307 (166) - Change to d kat section :<
00:41:543 (214) - ^ ^
00:59:701 (156) - Change to k changed
01:22:280 (105) - Change to d same previously
01:51:964 (164) - Remove finish yup

[WereOni]

EH? XD

00:32:307 (189) - Change to d same as Inner

+ Rename to Were777's oni! (Future Firce777 taiko style mapper)
Ok it was a joke, such a stream map, like it ahah!


I just suggested things, as you want now!


Good luck~

Neku okazaki

Neku okazaki wrote:

[Kantan]
00:04:833 - d mapped nothing on purpose, Kantan is supposed to be easy and not so dense
00:07:359 - d ^
00:09:885 (18) - d kat rhythm
00:46:911 (12) - Delete gonna think about this, thought it would be a nice addition to make it slightly harder with stuff that was just there in the map :>
00:52:911 (26) - Delete | kKd is too hard did you.... look at the beginning of the kiai? changed the first note to don instead
00:59:227 (41,42) - Ctrl + G changed
01:09:648 (16) - Delete | I say this ^ ^
01:24:174 (49,50,51) - d d d no
01:25:122 (52) - Delete yes
01:26:701 (55,56,57) - d d d no
01:29:227 (62,63,64) - ^
01:34:911 (3) - Delete changed
01:37:753 (10) - Delete think this diff needs some of these because futsuu
01:40:280 (16) - ^ gonna leave this as it is for now
01:42:806 (22) - Delete
01:51:017 (41) - d deleted

[Futsuu]
00:22:675 (70) - k same as other mod
00:28:044 (85) - d | Is too hard will decide another time
00:34:833 (106,107,108) - Make this 00:34:201 (103,104,105) - music gets more intense, that's why dkk
01:12:648 (36) - d same as other mod
01:43:122 (34) - d no, doesn't fit to my pattern

[Muzukashii]
01:12:648 (53) - K want more emphasis on next note, don here

Good onis ~

thanks^^
Senritsu
Incoming taco from my queue
Woof :3

[General]
SPOILER
Nothing~

[Kantan]
SPOILER
From 01:36:806 - 01:43:753, try giving some breaks for beginner. These patterns are too long and complicated. Please fix it ><
Nice diff in average, but there are some points i don't like what you follow, following the more inaudible than the audible imo. This is just my opinion. But 1 thing, this diff looks like an easy Futsuu because of the 1/1 stream with and it contains not many breaks, which beginner would be find this difficult to play. I don't say that you must change everything and make it easier, no. I'm just pointing this out lols
Also, i really hope if you remove the SV changes, since they would make beginner that never played a rhythm game before confused because they suddenly changed their speed.
But it's still a nice diff, you follow the music neatly and everything. :3

[Futsuu]
SPOILER
SV 1.20 please. 1.40 is way too fast.
00:17:465 (52,53) - remove either finish or don. dK or kK or kD or dD is too hard to play at both Kantan and Futsuu.
00:22:517 (68,69) - same as above, if dK or everything i've said above is too hard, as well as KK or DD or DK or KD. i can't even 'get' them at Oni or higher diff until now lols
00:27:885 (83,84) - ^
00:34:359 (103) - try removing this to give beginner some break for 1/2 triplet. i don't really like the idea of 1/2 triplets without 1/1 break ><
00:39:016 (114) - same as above ><
00:46:280 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - this is too much for beginner ;__;
I don't know what to say here.. >w>b
Too many hard 1/2 patterns, and want it or not, you must change it. Such as i mentioned above, and other pattern like 3 constant 1/2 triplets. Believe me, that's way too hard for beginner that also just learned. I hope you fixed it though, i really hope >w>
If you want to give 3plets or 5 plets on your diff, make sure to give a long breaks, or just use them seldomly, if it's really really necessary. Only. Remember, you're mapping a 190 bpm song, not a slow one. Probably a low BPM one would be tolerated, but not with high bpm like this. ><

[Muzukashii]
SPOILER
Not really any error here, but.. Wtf with the diffspread between this with Futsuu lols
You should've give some more 1/1 breaks at some points. Try to avoid something like this00:49:753 (35,36,37,38,39,40) - , this is a 190 bpm song, which is pretty fast. Having things like these will make the player playing this too hard, due to high bpm. Also if you're using triplets, be sure to give some breaks to players, to make them prepare for the next pattern of the map. :3

[Oni]
SPOILER
Change the SV to 1.40. Let the crazy things go at Inner and the above.
00:22:675 (117) - change to K here, since it has the same pitch as 00:22:517 (116) - . i don't see any reason why would you change it to D.
00:39:490 (185) - try changing to k here. because the music with higher pitch starts there? >< well it's not starting there tho, but sounds audible there. i hope you get it
01:12:648 (64) - same as before
01:17:859 (81) - not missing a finish here? imo adding 1 here will suits the song ovob
I don't know what to say [2]
The unbalanced diffspread makes me dead lols

[Inner Oni]
SPOILER
Basically almost the same mod as Oni
00:34:359 not mapping this? owo
I can't mod Inner Oni that well.

[WereOni]
SPOILER
*testplayed*
Fail. thankyou. that's all. *flies*

In average, unbalanced diffspread.
*dies*
lols woof goodluck for rank :3
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Senritsu wrote:

Incoming taco from my queue
Woof :3

[General]
SPOILER
Nothing~

[Kantan]
SPOILER
From 01:36:806 - 01:43:753, try giving some breaks for beginner. These patterns are too long and complicated. Please fix it >< simplified the beginning a bit
Nice diff in average, but there are some points i don't like what you follow, following the more inaudible than the audible imo. This is just my opinion. But 1 thing, this diff looks like an easy Futsuu because of the 1/1 stream with and it contains not many breaks, which beginner would be find this difficult to play. I don't say that you must change everything and make it easier, no. I'm just pointing this out lols well I kinda aimed it to be a Kantan still, but a hard one cause the higher diffs are pretty hard and for the spread it would either need ANOTHER real boring diff or.. this
Also, i really hope if you remove the SV changes, since they would make beginner that never played a rhythm game before confused because they suddenly changed their speed. lol forgot to change them
But it's still a nice diff, you follow the music neatly and everything. :3

[Futsuu]
SPOILER
SV 1.20 please. 1.40 is way too fast. done
00:17:465 (52,53) - remove either finish or don. dK or kK or kD or dD is too hard to play at both Kantan and Futsuu. rip finish
00:22:517 (68,69) - same as above, if dK or everything i've said above is too hard, as well as KK or DD or DK or KD. i can't even 'get' them at Oni or higher diff until now lols rip
00:27:885 (83,84) - ^ rip
00:34:359 (103) - try removing this to give beginner some break for 1/2 triplet. i don't really like the idea of 1/2 triplets without 1/1 break >< deleted middle of other triplet instead
00:39:016 (114) - same as above >< deleted 1/1 before
00:46:280 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - this is too much for beginner ;__; well the diff isn't for beginners (the whole set isn't), deleted part of the 1/2 doublet
I don't know what to say here.. >w>b
Too many hard 1/2 patterns, and want it or not, you must change it. Such as i mentioned above, and other pattern like 3 constant 1/2 triplets. Believe me, that's way too hard for beginner that also just learned. I hope you fixed it though, i really hope >w>
If you want to give 3plets or 5 plets on your diff, make sure to give a long breaks, or just use them seldomly, if it's really really necessary. Only. Remember, you're mapping a 190 bpm song, not a slow one. Probably a low BPM one would be tolerated, but not with high bpm like this. >< I know that I mapped it only a few days ago and I already don't get why I mapped some stuff like I mapped it lol, simplified

[Muzukashii]
SPOILER
Not really any error here, but.. Wtf with the diffspread between this with Futsuu lols
You should've give some more 1/1 breaks at some points. Try to avoid something like this00:49:753 (35,36,37,38,39,40) - there are worse examples ranked , this is a 190 bpm song, which is pretty fast. Having things like these will make the player playing this too hard, due to high bpm. Also if you're using triplets, be sure to give some breaks to players, to make them prepare for the next pattern of the map. :3 simplified too, mainly becuse I FOUND OUT THAT I MAPPED ONI WAY TOO HARD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[Oni]
SPOILER
Change the SV to 1.40. Let the crazy things go at Inner and the above.
00:22:675 (117) - change to K here, since it has the same pitch as 00:22:517 (116) - . i don't see any reason why would you change it to D. next note is higher pitch and I wanted to have emphasis on that
00:39:490 (185) - try changing to k here. because the music with higher pitch starts there? >< well it's not starting there tho, but sounds audible there. i hope you get it
01:12:648 (64) - same as before
01:17:859 (81) - not missing a finish here? imo adding 1 here will suits the song ovob I was too focussed into make the Oni have sense that I forgot to apply the rest lel
I don't know what to say [2]
The unbalanced diffspread makes me dead lols I JUST REALIZED HOW STUPID THE ONI IS YAAAAAY

[Inner Oni]
SPOILER
Basically almost the same mod as Oni ok now I looked at them, declined because the reason stated already or kD dk is blah
00:34:359 not mapping this? owo lol
I can't mod Inner Oni that well.

[WereOni]
SPOILER
*testplayed*
Fail. thankyou. that's all. *flies*

In average, unbalanced diffspread. Should be fixed now I swear
*dies*
lols woof goodluck for rank :3
thanks a lot! :3
Asagi Mutsuki
Actively modding farming kudosu here!

gave an irc mod which is 10% mod and 90% crap

log
2014-07-26 20:27 cdhsausageboy: so here we go typing everything here
2014-07-26 20:27 cdhsausageboy: ;w;
2014-07-26 20:27 Nwolf: poor you D:
2014-07-26 20:28 cdhsausageboy: 00:22:991 - y u no finish here D:
2014-07-26 20:29 Nwolf: too evil (maybe)
2014-07-26 20:30 cdhsausageboy: the kantan is already hell k
2014-07-26 20:30 Nwolf: it has to eb
2014-07-26 20:31 Nwolf: *be
2014-07-26 20:31 Nwolf: also it's below 2 stars ok
2014-07-26 20:31 cdhsausageboy: underrated kantan ftw
2014-07-26 20:31 cdhsausageboy: 00:32:938 -
2014-07-26 20:31 Nwolf: I'm your daddy has hard kantan too :D
2014-07-26 20:31 cdhsausageboy: nwolf using loctav as an example
2014-07-26 20:31 cdhsausageboy: k
2014-07-26 20:32 cdhsausageboy: also that timeline
2014-07-26 20:32 cdhsausageboy: ooo ooo K rhythm sounds better and matches the song too D:
2014-07-26 20:32 Nwolf: k
2014-07-26 20:33 cdhsausageboy: k put d or k for the circles idc
2014-07-26 20:33 Nwolf: butbutbutbut snares on 2 and 4 D:
2014-07-26 20:33 cdhsausageboy: lol
2014-07-26 20:33 cdhsausageboy: never noticed it
2014-07-26 20:33 cdhsausageboy: i doubt anyone would ;w;
2014-07-26 20:34 Nwolf: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1858989 okay?
2014-07-26 20:36 cdhsausageboy: k
2014-07-26 20:37 cdhsausageboy: 00:47:227 - maybe delete this?
2014-07-26 20:37 cdhsausageboy: itll emphasize the transition of the song at 00:47:543 better
2014-07-26 20:37 cdhsausageboy: which eh
2014-07-26 20:37 Nwolf: snares on 2 and 4 D:
2014-07-26 20:38 Nwolf: done
2014-07-26 20:38 cdhsausageboy: I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR SNARES HDUEWIHFIUWHEFUWEFHUIWEFHIUWGFIUW
2014-07-26 20:38 cdhsausageboy: even though i play the snare drum at school :3
2014-07-26 20:38 Nwolf: I CHANGED IT
2014-07-26 20:39 cdhsausageboy: I KNOW
2014-07-26 20:39 Nwolf: wait you play standalone snare?
2014-07-26 20:39 cdhsausageboy: yeah
2014-07-26 20:39 Nwolf: lol ok
2014-07-26 20:40 cdhsausageboy: lol why
2014-07-26 20:41 Nwolf: didn't know snares are also played alone, you don't play other percussion?
2014-07-26 20:42 cdhsausageboy: i do but
2014-07-26 20:42 cdhsausageboy: i mainly play snare drum
2014-07-26 20:42 Nwolf: ah k
2014-07-26 20:42 cdhsausageboy: every percussionist in our school almost plays everything ;w;
2014-07-26 20:43 cdhsausageboy: 01:12:964 -
2014-07-26 20:43 cdhsausageboy: so you really ain't gonna add finisher?
2014-07-26 20:44 Nwolf: k added
2014-07-26 20:46 cdhsausageboy: k nothing to mention anymore except for imba kantan
2014-07-26 20:48 Nwolf: diff2stronk all beginners quit
2014-07-26 20:48 Nwolf: Nwolf made BAT for getting rid of noobs
2014-07-26 20:48 cdhsausageboy: Taiko maps
2014-07-26 20:48 cdhsausageboy: made by pro mappers
2014-07-26 20:49 cdhsausageboy: for pro players
2014-07-26 20:49 cdhsausageboy: noobs gtfo
2014-07-26 20:49 Nwolf: yes
2014-07-26 20:58 cdhsausageboy: in futsuu eh
2014-07-26 20:58 cdhsausageboy: 00:22:675 - why is this a d but not k huh
2014-07-26 21:03 cdhsausageboy: 00:41:859 - maybe add a k here?
2014-07-26 21:03 cdhsausageboy: kkd between two 2/1 rests just sounds kinda random >_>
2014-07-26 21:03 cdhsausageboy: ps don't quit before looking at everything k
2014-07-26 21:09 Nwolf: i was eating D:
2014-07-26 21:10 cdhsausageboy: D:
2014-07-26 21:10 Nwolf: ehmehm 22:675 is d because moar emphasis on the next note
2014-07-26 21:10 Nwolf: how to afk status btw
2014-07-26 21:10 cdhsausageboy: huh
2014-07-26 21:10 cdhsausageboy: type /away
2014-07-26 21:10 Nwolf: o
2014-07-26 21:10 cdhsausageboy: now you know
2014-07-26 21:11 Nwolf: deleted the middle kat
2014-07-26 21:11 cdhsausageboy: and then skipping everything in the middle
2014-07-26 21:11 cdhsausageboy: 01:45:648 - this sounds more like a kat D:
2014-07-26 21:12 Nwolf: you sound more like a kat :<
2014-07-26 21:12 Nwolf: ok yes it does changed
2014-07-26 21:12 cdhsausageboy: call me lazy
2014-07-26 21:12 cdhsausageboy: now moving on to muzu k
2014-07-26 21:13 Nwolf: k
2014-07-26 21:13 Nwolf: it's not lazyness it's just the proness of the diff :3
2014-07-26 21:13 cdhsausageboy: :3
2014-07-26 21:17 cdhsausageboy: wow pro muzu
2014-07-26 21:17 cdhsausageboy: really
2014-07-26 21:17 Nwolf: yay thanks
2014-07-26 21:18 cdhsausageboy: just a few things
2014-07-26 21:18 cdhsausageboy: the intro is even repetitive than kantan and futsuu D:
2014-07-26 21:19 Nwolf: the intro is repetitive all the time
2014-07-26 21:19 cdhsausageboy: it isn't in futsuu D:
2014-07-26 21:20 Nwolf: yes it is :3
2014-07-26 21:20 cdhsausageboy: WHY ISN'T DIALGA ONLINE DHWEUIHIWEUFHIUWEGFIUWEGFIUWGEUIFWGEUIFGWIUGFIWUGFIWUE
2014-07-26 21:20 cdhsausageboy: I NEED TO TELL HIM I PASSED HIM 2000 CRAP SHWQUIDGHWUEFGWIUGFWIUFIUW
2014-07-26 21:20 Nwolf: k
2014-07-26 21:20 cdhsausageboy: *HIS
2014-07-26 21:22 cdhsausageboy: 01:08:859 - shouldn't this be d? D:
2014-07-26 21:23 Nwolf: yes
2014-07-26 21:29 cdhsausageboy: ACTION is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461061 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Oni]] <Taiko>
2014-07-26 21:29 cdhsausageboy: k this is repetitive like hell
2014-07-26 21:29 Nwolf: sry
2014-07-26 21:30 cdhsausageboy: nvr mind D:
2014-07-26 21:30 Nwolf: it's consistent not repetitive !!!!!11!!!!11!!!!1!!!!1!one!!!
2014-07-26 21:30 cdhsausageboy: ACTION still eats nwolf tho
2014-07-26 21:30 cdhsausageboy: k
2014-07-26 21:30 cdhsausageboy: its consistent AND repetitive
2014-07-26 21:30 cdhsausageboy: :D
2014-07-26 21:30 Nwolf: still splodin' though
2014-07-26 21:30 Nwolf: :o
2014-07-26 21:32 cdhsausageboy: 00:30:886 - y u no d here
2014-07-26 21:32 Nwolf: I am too cool for that
2014-07-26 21:32 cdhsausageboy: and here 00:28:359
2014-07-26 21:32 Nwolf: because kD dk ewwww
2014-07-26 21:32 Nwolf: 00:30:886 - added
2014-07-26 21:37 cdhsausageboy: k
2014-07-26 21:37 cdhsausageboy: kdddk kkddk
2014-07-26 21:38 cdhsausageboy: kiai in a nutshell
2014-07-26 21:38 Nwolf: :D
2014-07-26 21:39 cdhsausageboy: 01:01:438 (116,117,118,119,120) - y u kkdkk here when there isn't a single one before D:
2014-07-26 21:39 cdhsausageboy: idk it kinda breaks the consistency
2014-07-26 21:40 Nwolf: kdddk kkddk kkdkk
2014-07-26 21:40 Nwolf: beautiful pattern :>
2014-07-26 21:40 cdhsausageboy: ok then :3
2014-07-26 21:40 cdhsausageboy: 01:20:859 - oh yeah remember to add a d here too :D
2014-07-26 21:42 Nwolf: blah
2014-07-26 21:42 cdhsausageboy: well the rest are really pretty too so yay
2014-07-26 21:42 cdhsausageboy: don't bite me for lazyness
2014-07-26 21:42 cdhsausageboy: i checked twice D:
2014-07-26 21:43 Nwolf: k
2014-07-26 21:43 Nwolf: ACTION bites Dain
2014-07-26 21:43 cdhsausageboy: BAKA YOU STILL BIT ME DHWUQIHGDIUWEGIUWGEWE
2014-07-26 21:44 Nwolf: nu :<
2014-07-26 21:44 cdhsausageboy: D:
2014-07-26 21:48 cdhsausageboy: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461062 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [WereOni]]
2014-07-26 21:48 cdhsausageboy: let me think
2014-07-26 21:49 cdhsausageboy: how the hell do i mod a stream
2014-07-26 21:50 cdhsausageboy: 00:30:886 - oh yeah add this and the same one at the back in inner and WO too
2014-07-26 21:50 Nwolf: it's perfect okay
2014-07-26 21:53 cdhsausageboy: 00:50:069 - i'd really hope you'll cut the stream here and remap stuff follow da cymbals D:
2014-07-26 21:53 cdhsausageboy: but meh its your own choice k
2014-07-26 21:54 Nwolf: but if I remap it it will make sense
2014-07-26 21:54 Nwolf: SENSE IS BAD
2014-07-26 21:54 cdhsausageboy: inb4 people give a rating of 1 because "shinsekai v2"
2014-07-26 21:54 cdhsausageboy: well it makes sense already D:
2014-07-26 21:54 Nwolf: pls the rest of the streams make sense
2014-07-26 21:54 cdhsausageboy: SEE
2014-07-26 21:54 Nwolf: shinsekai doesn't have one part that does
2014-07-26 21:54 cdhsausageboy: why not make MORE sense :D
2014-07-26 21:55 Nwolf: <---
2014-07-26 21:55 Nwolf: does that answer your question :3
2014-07-26 21:55 cdhsausageboy: <-----
2014-07-26 21:55 cdhsausageboy: this does
2014-07-26 21:55 Nwolf: <-----------------
2014-07-26 21:55 cdhsausageboy: <--------------------------------------------------------------------
2014-07-26 21:55 Nwolf: <---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2014-07-26 21:56 Nwolf: "what are you doing" "we are modding" "oh okay"
2014-07-26 21:56 cdhsausageboy: fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
2014-07-26 21:56 cdhsausageboy: inb4 some bat denies kds after looking at chat log
2014-07-26 21:56 Nwolf: lol
2014-07-26 21:56 cdhsausageboy: what's with that face of course we're modding D;
2014-07-26 21:57 Nwolf: *face*
2014-07-26 21:57 cdhsausageboy: *palm"
2014-07-26 21:59 cdhsausageboy: 00:58:280 (167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174) - shouldn't these be ddkkddk according to pitch D:
2014-07-26 22:00 Nwolf: that would make sense and playable
2014-07-26 22:01 cdhsausageboy: yes it would
2014-07-26 22:01 cdhsausageboy: so
2014-07-26 22:01 cdhsausageboy: SO?
2014-07-26 22:01 cdhsausageboy: ACTION stares at bakawolf
2014-07-26 22:01 Nwolf: ACTION explodes
2014-07-26 22:01 Nwolf: I changed it (I think)
2014-07-26 22:02 cdhsausageboy: 01:06:964 (39,40,41,42,43) - y u 5-note out of nowhere
2014-07-26 22:03 Nwolf: ~connections~
2014-07-26 22:04 cdhsausageboy: k
2014-07-26 22:04 Nwolf: else there's a standalone d like in the beginning
2014-07-26 22:04 cdhsausageboy: oh
2014-07-26 22:04 cdhsausageboy: k
2014-07-26 22:05 Nwolf: kohk
2014-07-26 22:05 cdhsausageboy: 01:22:911 (125,126,127,128) - maybe change these to dkdd/ddkd
2014-07-26 22:05 cdhsausageboy: to make 01:23:543 (129,130,131,132) - look more kat oriented
2014-07-26 22:05 cdhsausageboy: because it should? k
2014-07-26 22:05 Nwolf: changed to dkkd
2014-07-26 22:06 Nwolf: *dkdd
2014-07-26 22:06 Nwolf: mirror pattern and shit
2014-07-26 22:06 cdhsausageboy: 01:30:490 (189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220) -
2014-07-26 22:07 cdhsausageboy: dddd dddd dddk dddk so y u no ddkk ddkk dkkk dkkk?
2014-07-26 22:07 cdhsausageboy: make the patterns ascend all the way
2014-07-26 22:08 Nwolf: if you listen dkkk has moar tremolo than ddkk :D
2014-07-26 22:08 Nwolf: also to confuse players okay
2014-07-26 22:08 cdhsausageboy: lol
2014-07-26 22:08 Nwolf: yes that's a valid reasons
2014-07-26 22:11 Nwolf: brb have to get something to drink AGAIN
2014-07-26 22:14 Nwolf: nom
2014-07-26 22:14 cdhsausageboy: gulp
2014-07-26 22:18 cdhsausageboy: 01:49:438 (192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224) -
2014-07-26 22:18 cdhsausageboy: does this even make any sense D:
2014-07-26 22:18 cdhsausageboy: probably no ;w;
2014-07-26 22:19 Nwolf: no it doesn't
2014-07-26 22:19 Nwolf: 01:51:648 (220) - it was missing a kat
2014-07-26 22:19 cdhsausageboy: lol i thought you put all d somehow on purpose
2014-07-26 22:20 Nwolf: I probably did
2014-07-26 22:20 Nwolf: but that was 1 week ago D:
2014-07-26 22:20 cdhsausageboy: D:
2014-07-26 22:23 cdhsausageboy: 00:42:806 - wouldn't something like kdd kdd kdd k ddk ddk ddk ddkkd fit more D:
2014-07-26 22:24 Nwolf: maybe yes
2014-07-26 22:25 cdhsausageboy: maybe
2014-07-26 22:25 cdhsausageboy: im pretty sure i can't find anything else in the whole set :D
2014-07-26 22:25 Nwolf: k
2014-07-26 22:26 cdhsausageboy: so um
2014-07-26 22:26 cdhsausageboy: save log
2014-07-26 22:26 cdhsausageboy: post log
2014-07-26 22:26 cdhsausageboy: farm kds?
2014-07-26 22:26 Nwolf: yes
2014-07-26 22:26 cdhsausageboy: k
rew0825
Hello ^ ^

Kantan
00:31:991 (22) - d
01:21:964 (44) - d
01:40:280 (15) - d
01:41:859 (19,20) - k
01:42:806 (22) - k


Futsuu
00:31:991 (96) - d?
01:21:964 (56) - ^
01:39:964 (19,20) - k
01:40:595 (21,22) - d
01:42:490 (27) - k


Muzukashii
00:42:806 (2) - d
00:43:438 (5) - d
00:44:227 (9,10) - d
00:44:859 (12,13) - d
01:34:280 (1) - D

Good Luck :)
Topic Starter
Nwolf

rew0825 wrote:

Hello ^ ^ hi :3

Kantan
00:31:991 (22) - d done
01:40:280 (15) - d not changing, think kats only (except last note) is already hard enough
01:41:859 (19,20) - k changed
01:42:806 (22) - k
same reason as 15


Futsuu
00:31:991 (96) - d? prefer kats now
01:39:964 (19,20) - k
01:40:595 (21,22) - d
01:42:490 (27) - k same changes as Kantan


Muzukashii
00:42:806 (2) - d
00:43:438 (5) - d snare rhythm
00:44:227 (9,10) - d
00:44:859 (12,13) - d changed, nice idea!
01:34:280 (1) - D changed

Good Luck :)

thanks!
roufou
kantan
I'd considering lowering the od to 3 or even 2 due to 1/2 usage, although it doesn't make a really huge difference. your call, I don't know what else to say about this one unfortunately

futsuu
00:33:254 kdd? add one note at least I'd say
00:52:911 kdd or kdddk
00:54:490 d
01:44:701 kdddk

muzukashii
01:29:543 k
01:39:411 k
01:40:674 d
01:45:016 ddd k k
01:46:753 k

oni
01:39:332 kdk as for the next pattern you might want to change it to perhaps dkk or something

inner oni
00:50:306 k maybe

wereoni
00:17:780 change this to a d for ease of gameplay, I have a pretty strong opinion on this one myself but you'll see yourself
00:22:833 ^ although this one may sound a bit weird I think the same for this one

unfortunately I couldn't mod this too much, but good song and not a shabby map. good luck getting it ranked
Topic Starter
Nwolf

agu wrote:

kantan
I'd considering lowering the od to 3 or even 2 due to 1/2 usage, although it doesn't make a really huge difference. your call, I don't know what else to say about this one unfortunately think it's kinda low enough already, don't want to make it way too easy lol

futsuu
00:33:254 kdd? add one note at least I'd say need this break, else it's a too long 1/1 pattern
00:52:911 kdd or kdddk same reason as above, but might consider a change here
00:54:490 d ^
01:44:701 kdddk ^

muzukashii
01:29:543 k inversion of 01:28:280 (111) -
01:39:411 k not suitable for muzukashii
01:40:674 d ^
01:45:016 ddd k k ^
01:46:753 k ^

oni
01:39:332 kdk as for the next pattern you might want to change it to perhaps dkk or something changed the second triplet to kkd, gave me a nice idea

inner oni
00:50:306 k maybe added a don instead, kat in the other one

wereoni
00:17:780 change this to a d for ease of gameplay, I have a pretty strong opinion on this one myself but you'll see yourself changed
00:22:833 ^ although this one may sound a bit weird I think the same for this one keeping it

unfortunately I couldn't mod this too much, but good song and not a shabby map. good luck getting it ranked
thanks!
Akiyama Mizuki
Hi, from my modding queue
Do you mind having my Ura Oni thingy?

Kantan
SPOILER
OD3 plz
00:17:780 (33) - D
00:25:991 (7) - d
00:31:044 (19) - ^
00:41:543 (41) - k
01:00:806 (44,45,46) - k d k would be good
01:02:701 (1) - D
01:15:964 (29) - d
01:21:017 (41) - ^

Futsuu
SPOILER
00:17:465 (52) - k
00:25:991 (79) - d
00:27:885 (84,85) - d k
00:31:044 (93) - d
00:32:149 (97) - ^
01:02:701 (1) - D
01:17:858 (44,45) - d k
01:38:701 (16) - k

Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:22:517 (82,83) - k d or k k
00:27:885 (99,100) - d K
00:58:911 (84) - k
01:12:490 (48,49) - k k
01:17:858 (65,66) - d K
01:31:911 (128) - d

Oni
SPOILER
00:22:675 (109) - K
00:31:991 (140,141,142,143,144) - kkddd or kkkkd
01:02:227 (144) - k
01:21:964 (94,95,96,97,98) - Same as two line above
01:26:385 (121) - k
01:51:964 (126) - d

Inner Oni
SPOILER
SV1.4 plz I cri
00:23:465 ~ 00:32:623 - imo too easy for Inner Oni
00:31:991 (156,157,158,159,160) - Same as Oni
00:38:701 (189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196) - d d k k d k k k sounds nice imo
00:47:227 (45) - k
00:53:148 (99,100) - reverse
00:54:490 (113) - k
01:21:964 (102,103,104,105,106) - same as onion
01:30:806 (175,176,177) - kkd or kkk
01:46:595 (119) - k
01:50:464 (152,153,154,155) - dkkk or ddkk
01:51:964 (164) - d

WEEEERRRREEEE DIE!!! PLAYER DIE!!!!
SPOILER
00:37:753 (215,219) - k
00:40:280 (236) - ^
00:47:543 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69) - ddkkddkk?
00:50:069 (94,95,96,97,98) - kdddk
00:52:911 (129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - TOO EVIL :( :( :(
00:54:806 (153) - k
01:09:647 (64) - ^
01:46:595 (156) - ^
Topic Starter
Nwolf

bbj0920 wrote:

Hi, from my modding queue
Do you mind having my Ura Oni thingy?

Kantan
SPOILER
OD3 plz well hm.. changed
00:17:780 (33) - D too hard for a Kantan
00:25:991 (7) - d would fit, yes, but I mapped it like this because I want to keep differences in all diffs as small as possible
00:31:044 (19) - ^ ^
00:41:543 (41) - k same sound as 42 and 42 has to be don
01:00:806 (44,45,46) - k d k would be good changed
01:02:701 (1) - D changed

Futsuu
SPOILER
00:17:465 (52) - k don gives more emphasis to the next note
00:25:991 (79) - d Same as Kantan
00:27:885 (84,85) - d k didn't really want to change the pattern, wanted this calm section to be very easy
00:31:044 (93) - d Same Kantan
00:32:149 (97) - ^ kat pattern
01:02:701 (1) - D changed
01:38:701 (16) - k kat pattern

Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:22:517 (82,83) - k d or k k emphasis that it's the end
00:27:885 (99,100) - d K same as Futsuu
00:58:911 (84) - k changed
01:12:490 (48,49) - k k same as before
01:31:911 (128) - d same as Futsuu

Oni
SPOILER
00:22:675 (109) - K K D K is nicer to play
00:31:991 (140,141,142,143,144) - kkddd or kkkkd same as Futsuu
01:02:227 (144) - k nah plays bad
01:21:964 (94,95,96,97,98) - Same as two line above ^
01:26:385 (121) - k changed
01:51:964 (126) - d doesn't fit

Inner Oni
SPOILER
SV1.4 plz I cri no, especially since this is just 190 BPM.l
00:23:465 ~ 00:32:623 - imo too easy for Inner Oni why would it have to be hard
00:31:991 (156,157,158,159,160) - Same as Oni same as Oni
00:38:701 (189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196) - d d k k d k k k sounds nice imo changed to d d k d d d k k
00:47:227 (45) - k plays bad
00:53:148 (99,100) - reverse is like this because it's higher pitched here than in the next bar
00:54:490 (113) - k what why
01:30:806 (175,176,177) - kkd or kkk patterns. ddd --> ddk --> (normally dkk here like in WereOni) --> kkk
01:46:595 (119) - k Might think about doing this, it's mapped like this right now due to 01:45:332 (105,106) - being two kats too
01:50:464 (152,153,154,155) - dkkk or ddkk like it more this way, dislike ddkk
01:51:964 (164) - d doesn't fit

WEEEERRRREEEE DIE!!! PLAYER DIE!!!! >:3
SPOILER
00:37:753 (215,219) - k don-only 1/2
00:40:280 (236) - ^ Patterns: dddd --> dddk ---> ddkk ---> dkkk ---> kkkk
00:47:543 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69) - ddkkddkk? supposed to be kinda like mirror pattern with 00:48:806 (78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85) -
00:50:069 (94,95,96,97,98) - kdddk it's already kdddk... that's kinda lame :<
00:52:911 (129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - TOO EVIL :( :( :( pls it's just monocolor
00:54:806 (153) - k same as Inner even though I will probably not change it cause it's supposed to be monocolor d (haha ddkk players will curse this because it kills off both hands~
01:09:647 (64) - ^ changed
01:46:595 (156) - ^ -------------------------^
Dainesl
IRC Mod upon self-request lol

Part 1 (Kantan-Muzu)
15:35 Nwolf: or shuffle heaven *dies
15:35 Dainesl: meh
15:37 *Dainesl is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461059 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Kantan]]
15:37 Dainesl: I'm bored, let's IRC mod.
15:37 Dainesl: might as well return the favour!!
15:37 Nwolf: uuuhm k
15:38 *Nwolf is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461059 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Kantan]]
15:41 Dainesl: zzzz this kantan is boring
15:42 Nwolf: better than d k d k d k d d k
15:42 Dainesl: 00:50:069 (19,20,21,22) -
15:42 Dainesl: no just no
15:43 Nwolf: deleted 22
15:43 Dainesl: nooooo
15:43 Dainesl: I was gonna give you a screenshot
15:43 Dainesl: and I am
15:43 Nwolf: ;w;
15:43 Dainesl: make it emphasise the main instruments more [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1922324 like this]
15:44 Dainesl: plus it keeps consistent with the mapping on 2 and 4 ticks
15:44 Nwolf: I actually mapped it like this so I can get to that 4/1 break
15:45 Dainesl: blahhhh
15:45 Nwolf: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1922327
15:45 Dainesl: you said 4/1 breaks were stupid
15:45 Dainesl: 01:01:438 (43) - e.g.
15:46 Nwolf: did I really say that?
15:46 Dainesl: I remember you saying that before ._.
15:47 Dainesl: 01:23:543 (40) - nitpick but change this to a kat 'cause it has more emphasis
15:47 Nwolf: what am I supposed to do with 43 the note is held
15:47 Nwolf: Dain zoom out and look at the pattern
15:47 Nwolf: d d d k k k d d k k k d d k k k d d
15:48 Dainesl: And after that is k k
15:48 Dainesl: which does not continue the pattern
15:48 Dainesl: also regarding that 4/1 break maybe replace it with a 2/1 slider?
15:48 Nwolf: because the song changes after that
15:48 Nwolf: oh yeah sliders exist
15:48 Dainesl: ye
15:49 Dainesl: but Kantans are not about aesthetics
15:49 Dainesl: they're about accessibility and playability
15:49 Dainesl: no beginner cares if your pattern looks cool in Taiko
15:49 Nwolf: some top players don't care if a pattern looks good in Oni
15:49 Nwolf: :>
15:49 Dainesl: exactly
15:50 Dainesl: 01:39:332 (12,13,14,15,16) - suddenly 5-plets
15:51 Dainesl: 01:49:438 (35,36) - and perhaps invert these for greater emphasis in all the right spots?
15:51 Nwolf: change to 4-plet like last one?
15:52 Dainesl: ew no
15:52 Dainesl: k kkk would be my recommendation
15:53 Dainesl: 01:42:806 (21) - and maybe remove this? again, 5-plet :PP
15:53 Dainesl: just a nitpick is all
15:53 Nwolf: k triplets
15:53 Nwolf: no change that to triplet too
15:53 Nwolf: k ddk
15:53 Dainesl: kay
15:54 Nwolf: also inverted that doublet
15:54 Dainesl: kay that's it
15:54 Dainesl: short mod for Kantan huh?!
15:54 *Dainesl is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461057 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Futsuu]]
15:54 Nwolf: weeee
15:55 Dainesl: 00:13:359 (37,38,39) - this is awkward
15:55 Dainesl: 'cause there's a big gap and then suddenly triplet
15:55 Nwolf: I don't even get the triplet k
15:55 Dainesl: whereas with 00:15:570 (45,46,47,48) - there's not a big gap
15:55 Nwolf: triplet gone there too because consistency and I love consistency
15:56 Dainesl: :3
15:56 Nwolf: also gives the next pattern more... intensity with the addition of triplet????
15:57 Dainesl: 00:28:043 (85) - this is really emphasised
15:57 Dainesl: but...idk if it plays well
15:57 Nwolf: I don't really want to use 1/2 finisher here, it's done that way in the higher diffs though
15:57 Dainesl: 00:57:648 (52,53,54) - and what the heck is this triplet doing here
15:58 Nwolf: making d k d k d k d k d k more interesting and idk
15:58 Nwolf: thinking about it, moved the end of that triplet 00:58:280 - here
15:59 Dainesl: 01:18:016 (45) - same deal as the other one but since you don't want that one this doesn't apply either
16:00 Dainesl: but why is 00:31:991 (96,97,98) - different from 01:21:964 (56,57,58) - ?
16:01 Nwolf: idk ;_;
16:01 Nwolf: changed second to kat
16:03 Dainesl: 01:45:649 (36,37,38,39) - random 4-plet k
16:03 Dainesl: there's nothing suggesting a 4-plet
16:03 Dainesl: why is there one here?
16:03 Nwolf: the song has a 4-plet to kinda
16:04 Nwolf: but I could remove the 2nd note because the same sound before
16:04 Nwolf: ...no I like the 4-plet ;w;
16:07 Dainesl: 01:51:648 (57) - perhaps change this to a don instead 'cause the kat after gets more emphasis?
16:08 Nwolf: yes
16:11 Dainesl: sorry I got talky with sayaka
16:12 Nwolf: k
16:12 *Dainesl is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461060 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Muzukashii]]
16:14 Dainesl: 00:17:465 (63) - perhaps replace with a kat? d k K is a nice buildup imo :3
16:15 Nwolf: hm yeah why not
16:15 Dainesl: plus it's still high pitch
16:16 Dainesl: 00:22:517 (82,83) - why suddenly finished
16:16 Dainesl: *finishes
16:17 Nwolf: last big notes before it gets calm... maybe? D:
16:17 Dainesl: but there's not enough emphasis imo
16:18 Dainesl: sounds WAY better without finishes imo
16:19 Nwolf: rip finishers everybody hate you like in gensou
16:20 Dainesl: 00:51:332 (44) - nitpick but maybe change this to don for continuting the dkdkdk on every beat (despite all the ones inbetween)
16:21 Nwolf: hey the kat is a lame excuse for not mapping a triplet
16:21 Nwolf: :>
16:21 Dainesl: no
16:21 Dainesl: it doesn't make sense
16:21 Nwolf: >:
16:22 Dainesl: 01:12:490 (48,49) - again remove finishers
16:22 Dainesl: 01:02:701 - and from here is kinda zzzzz
16:23 Dainesl: can't you change it up? D:
16:23 Nwolf: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1922445 ????? *runs*
16:24 Dainesl: no
16:24 Nwolf: 01:04:595 - added note here
16:25 Nwolf: *kat
16:25 Dainesl: fine
16:25 Nwolf: *don
16:25 Nwolf: 01:07:122 - kat here
16:25 Nwolf: 01:09:648 - and don again
16:25 Dainesl: 01:33:016 - why is there a weird gap here?
16:25 Nwolf: is fine?
16:25 Dainesl: yeah I guess that's fine :3 but what about the gap thing
16:26 Dainesl: 01:50:701 (85) - kat for consistency with other Kiai (nitpick)
16:26 Nwolf: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1922456
16:26 Dainesl: 01:51:648 (88) - and don for same reason as Futsuu
16:27 Nwolf: changed hboth
16:27 Nwolf: *both

Part 2 (Oni-WereOni)
13:07 *Dainesl is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461061 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Oni]]
13:07 Dainesl: let's begin
13:07 Nwolf: waaaait I am still applying a mod to Nightwish
13:07 Dainesl: AFTER I UPDATE GDI
13:08 *Nwolf is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461061 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Oni]]
13:09 Dainesl: 00:22:517 (108,109) - this is the same as Muzu (remove finishers)
13:09 Dainesl: speaking of which why are there so many finishers after the first few seconds?
13:10 Dainesl: like, by comparison
13:10 Nwolf: keeping the finishers because I spammed them before k
13:10 Nwolf: do you mean 00:14:938 (64,65) - stuff like these?
13:11 Dainesl: yeah
13:11 Dainesl: 00:42:806 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - hey look you could have done something cool
13:11 Nwolf: because it is very loud note ;w;
13:11 Dainesl: such as making the second pattern kkd and then the 2nd 5-plet
13:11 Dainesl: would be kkddk
13:11 Nwolf: 00:45:332 (20,21,22,23,24) - ?
13:12 Dainesl: 00:45:964 (25,26,27,28,29) - kdddk if you want a mirror pattern \:D/
13:12 Dainesl: since it's kdddk kkddk kkddk kdddk
13:12 Dainesl: if you swap 1st with 4th and 3rd with 2nd (the order of the 5-plets) it's the same
13:12 Dainesl: well tbh it's not a true mirror
13:13 Nwolf: wait I am thinking lol
13:13 Dainesl: Actually
13:13 Dainesl: If you want a true mirror pattern, make 00:44:701 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - kkdkk kkdkk
13:13 Nwolf: 00:46:595 (30,31,32,33,34) - changed this to kkkkd too
13:13 Dainesl: since mirrored, the 4 5-plets read kdddk kkdkk kkdkk kdddk
13:14 Dainesl: the ultimate mirror pattern :33
13:14 Nwolf: THE ULTIMATE MIRROR PATTERN
13:14 Dainesl: #taikostructure
13:14 Nwolf: IT'S SO ULTIMATE EVERYBODY IS GONNA DIE k but isn't it maybe too hard
13:14 Nwolf: because kkdkk is shit pattern \:D/
13:15 Dainesl: kkdkk is still simple
13:15 Dainesl: I'd say still suitable for an Oni
13:15 Dainesl: Also 00:49:122 (48,49,50,51,52) - why so much emphasis on the last note ;w;
13:15 Nwolf: hm nah I keep the kdddk kdddk kkddk kkddk stuff
13:15 Nwolf: because it just adds a k
13:15 Dainesl: following that one noise in the background?
13:16 Nwolf: kdddk flows so well <3
13:16 Dainesl: 01:12:490 (62,63) - AGAIN REMOVE FINISHERS
13:16 Dainesl: kay
13:16 Nwolf: no I have to keep them because I spammed them before :>
13:16 Dainesl: you removed them in other diffs
13:16 Nwolf: 00:49:122 (48,49,50,51,52) - also do you want me to do something with this
13:16 Dainesl: why not now???
13:17 Nwolf: because in the lower diffs finishers weren't spammed on the high KK notes that are in Oni
13:17 Nwolf: :>
13:17 Dainesl: oh, that
13:17 Dainesl: alter the pattern maybe to kkddd
13:17 Dainesl: gives less emphasis on the last note
13:17 Dainesl: but actually
13:17 Dainesl: probably not ideal
13:17 Dainesl: ignore that one
13:18 Dainesl: 01:30:490 (148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166) - you could have made the buildup gradually harder
13:18 Nwolf: no it fits
13:18 Nwolf: kkddd it is
13:18 Dainesl: this is what I thought you were gonna do with the build up D:
13:19 Nwolf: I made it gradually more kat-intense ok
13:19 Dainesl: ;_;
13:19 Nwolf: like in other diffs
13:19 Dainesl: okay
13:20 Dainesl: 01:44:701 (74,75,76,77) - SUDDENLY 4-PLET
13:20 Dainesl: HUH WHERE WHAT
13:20 Dainesl: all simple flow just went out the windeow
13:20 Dainesl: *window
13:21 Nwolf: how to map different tho
13:21 Dainesl: make this section more consistent with the last Kiai? D:
13:21 Dainesl: you mapped really differently there
13:21 Nwolf: oh lol true
13:22 Dainesl: The WereOni really has a massive gap when compared to the Inner Oni
13:22 Dainesl: since in the Kiai it's all like a single stream
13:22 Nwolf: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1925396 is not the same but cool
13:23 Dainesl: 00:58:280 (146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153) - huh
13:23 Nwolf: I was afraid that if I make the kiai in Inner too hard it's too hard compared to Oni though D:
13:23 Dainesl: ;w;
13:23 Nwolf: moved the first done of the second 4-plet on the white tick
13:23 Dainesl: that can't be helped i guess
13:23 Dainesl: "done"
13:24 Dainesl: k
13:24 Nwolf: blah
13:24 Dainesl: 01:31:122 (178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193) - SUDDEN KAT INTENSITY
13:24 Dainesl: this is not gradual D:
13:25 Dainesl: oh dear god you used 3 * 4 1/6 patterns
13:25 Nwolf: 01:32:069 (185,188) - dons
13:25 Nwolf: If I don't use 1/6 WereOni really is way harder lol
13:25 Dainesl: why D:
13:25 Nwolf: because it uses like 9 1/6 here
13:25 Dainesl: um
13:26 Dainesl: the 2nd Kiai
13:26 Dainesl: is way harder than the Oni
13:26 Dainesl: you realise this right
13:26 Nwolf: yes
13:26 Dainesl: you might need to make another diff inbetween lelel
13:26 Nwolf: nah don't think so
13:26 Nwolf: Inner still has lots of 1/1 breaks to rest
13:26 Nwolf: and simple patterns :>
13:27 Dainesl: 01:50:070 (148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155) - same thing as before
13:27 Nwolf: yup
13:27 Dainesl: WereOni idk if I can mod
13:28 Nwolf: hm
13:29 Dainesl: 00:59:069 (207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221) - the flow becomes much more awkward here
13:29 Dainesl: than before
13:30 Dainesl: also dear god the 2nd Kiai is one stream idk what to say I'm done gimme another log

;w;
Elina
Alldiff
First thing I want to say,I dont know whats meam like 00:23:465 (157,158) - and 00:41:543 (252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259) - (in WereOni) thats spacing is not so suitable。lol(that me own idea) if u can,check it and change。

These are my first impressions to see the map,I will finish my mod use IRC
Jerry


Sorry for the delay in modding this!


  • [Kantan]
  1. Nothing to point out on this diff


  • [Futsuu]
  1. There's alot of kdkdk pattern throughout the difficulty, I would suggest reducing this particular type of pattern as it is rather hard for the new players

  2. 00:28:043 - There is a Finish for this note on all of your other difficulties, so why no add a Finish for this as well?

  3. 00:30:569 - There is a rather loud bang here in the music, add a Finish?

  4. 00:38:701 - Since you made this type of "gap" pattern in the beginning of this part, I would suggest that you maintain this type of "gap" pattern throughout this entire part of the map. My suggestions are below in the box :
    BOX
    00:39:964 - remove


    00:40:280 - kat, (to maintain the kat rhythm with 00:37:753 - and 00:39:016 -)


    00:40:753 - add a don here, and then add a kat at 00:40:911 -


    00:41:227 - remove


    00:41:543 - change to kat, (same reason as 2nd suggestion)


    00:41:859 and 00:42:016 - add dons here


    00:42:174 - change to kat, maintain kat rhythm with 00:38:385 - and 00:39:648 -


  5. 01:18:016 (45) - There is Finish here for all your other diffs, add Finish?

  6. 01:20:543 (52) - There is a rather loud bang here, add a Finish?

  7. 01:33:648 - I suggest adding a don here and then another don at 01:33:806 -, it makes a nice flow for this part imo


  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:30:569 - There is a rather loud bang here in the music, add a Finish?

  2. 00:41:859 - add a kat here? The consistency is kinda ruined for this part with this random gap here imo

  3. 01:27:964 (111,112,113) - move these three notes to 01:27:806 - and then add a kat at 01:28:122 - to make this part consistent with what you did at 01:25:122 -?

  4. 01:41:543 (36) - change this to kat to maintain the consistency of the kat rhythm with 01:40:280 -?

  5. 01:20:542 - Same as the first suggestion, add finish?


  • [Oni]
  1. 00:30:570 - There is a rather loud bang here in the music, add a Finish?

  2. 00:41:859 - This gap kinda ruins the consistency of this part imo, add a kat here?

  3. 01:20:542 - Same as the first suggestion, add finish?


  • [Inner Oni]
  1. 00:30:570 - There is a rather loud bang here in the music, add a Finish?

  2. 00:41:859 - add a kat here? It sound weirly empty here at the moment (by adding a kat here, the consistency with 00:40:595 - can also be improved)

  3. 01:20:542 - Same as the first suggestion, add finish?

  4. 01:31:753 - add a 1/4 triplet don here to keep the consistency of the rhythm going?

  5. 01:33:016 - same for this, add a 1/4 triplet kat here?


  • [WereOni]
  1. 00:22:675 (154) - change this note to don? (to make it the same with what you did in Oni diff and Inner Oni diff for this note)

  2. 00:30:570 - There is a rather loud bang here in the music, add a Finish for this note?

  3. 00:41:859 - Add another 1/6 here to keep the rhythm going? The pattern sounds like it's left hanging after 00:41:701 - imo

  4. 01:18:332 - Same with the first suggestion, add a don here?

  5. 01:20:542 - Same with the 2nd suggestion, add Finish?

  6. 01:33:016 - Add another 1/6 kkkk here to fill the gap? A sudden single kat note here sounds awkward after the intense 1/6 before this lol


That's all from me! Good luck :3
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Jerry wrote:



Sorry for the delay in modding this!


  • [Kantan]
  1. Nothing to point out on this diff


  • [Futsuu]
  1. There's alot of kdkdk pattern throughout the difficulty, I would suggest reducing this particular type of pattern as it is rather hard for the new players I'll see what I can do

  2. 00:28:043 - There is a Finish for this note on all of your other difficulties, so why no add a Finish for this as well? hm true

  3. 00:30:569 - There is a rather loud bang here in the music, add a Finish? didn't seem right to have two finishers... dunno

  4. 00:38:701 - Since you made this type of "gap" pattern in the beginning of this part, I would suggest that you maintain this type of "gap" pattern throughout this entire part of the map. My suggestions are below in the box :
    BOX
    00:39:964 - remove


    00:40:280 - kat, (to maintain the kat rhythm with 00:37:753 - and 00:39:016 -)


    00:40:753 - add a don here, and then add a kat at 00:40:911 -


    00:41:227 - remove


    00:41:543 - change to kat, (same reason as 2nd suggestion)


    00:41:859 and 00:42:016 - add dons here


    00:42:174 - change to kat, maintain kat rhythm with 00:38:385 - and 00:39:648 -

    changed a bit differently but changed
  5. 01:33:648 - I suggest adding a don here and then another don at 01:33:806 -, it makes a nice flow for this part imo


  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:30:569 - There is a rather loud bang here in the music, add a Finish? reason in futsuu

  2. 00:41:859 - add a kat here? The consistency is kinda ruined for this part with this random gap here imo also present in Futsuu, this break is kinda necessary to avoid having too much 1/1 here

  3. 01:27:964 (111,112,113) - move these three notes to 01:27:806 - and then add a kat at 01:28:122 - to make this part consistent with what you did at 01:25:122 -? yep

  4. 01:41:543 (36) - change this to kat to maintain the consistency of the kat rhythm with 01:40:280 -? doesn't fit with the pattern tho


  • [Oni]
  1. 00:41:859 - This gap kinda ruins the consistency of this part imo, add a kat here? same as previous diffs


  • [Inner Oni]
  1. 00:41:859 - add a kat here? It sound weirly empty here at the moment (by adding a kat here, the consistency with 00:40:595 - can also be improved) same as previous diffs

  2. 01:31:753 - add a 1/4 triplet don here to keep the consistency of the rhythm going? is break

  3. 01:33:016 - same for this, add a 1/4 triplet kat here? ^


  • [WereOni]
  1. 00:22:675 (154) - change this note to don? (to make it the same with what you did in Oni diff and Inner Oni diff for this note) sure

  2. 00:41:859 - Add another 1/6 here to keep the rhythm going? The pattern sounds like it's left hanging after 00:41:701 - imo there is no sound

  3. 01:18:332 - Same with the first suggestion, add a don here? (First suggestion was somewhere else, applied there not here)

  4. 01:33:016 - Add another 1/6 kkkk here to fill the gap? A sudden single kat note here sounds awkward after the intense 1/6 before this lol is break


That's all from me! Good luck :3
thanks!
Hanjamon
Hi~ Taiko mod from my queue

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  • Disable ''widescreen support'' in all diffs
[Kantan]

  • 00:03:096 (2) - i think is better delete this note, k (k 1/2beat) k k (k 1/2beat) is a bit hard and confuse for a kantan
    00:05:622 (6) - ^
    00:08:148 (10) - ^
    00:10:674 (14) - ^
    00:22:991 (39) - ^?
    01:12:964 (21) - ^
    01:24:490 (41,47,53) - how about delete these notes? will be more easy for new players
    01:51:964 (38) - finish missing
[Futsuu]

  • 01:51:964 (57) - finish missing

    Nothing to suggest here, I think you can make this futsuu easier ;w;
[Muzukashii]

  • 00:47:859 (24) - change to k? i think is better
    01:51:964 (85) - finish missing
[Oni]

  • 01:51:964 (121) - finish missing
[Inner Oni]

  • I think is better reduce sv 1,60 ==> 1,40 for this reason t/243350, for the WereOni is ok i think, because is the hardest diff of the map

    01:25:043 (125) - change to k? (ddkkd) sounds better imo
    01:35:306 (9) - change to k? ^
    01:37:832 (31) - change to k? ^
    01:40:359 (55) - ^?
[WereOni]

  • Nothing to suggest here, fun to play :3
Good luck! :3
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Hanjamon wrote:

Hi~ Taiko mod from my queue

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  • Disable ''widescreen support'' in all diffs blah keep forgetting that
[Kantan]

  • 00:03:096 (2) - i think is better delete this note, k (k 1/2beat) k k (k 1/2beat) is a bit hard and confuse for a kantan
    00:05:622 (6) - ^
    00:08:148 (10) - ^
    00:10:674 (14) - ^ done all
    00:22:991 (39) - ^? moved back 1/2 and changed to don
    01:12:964 (21) - ^ ^
    01:24:490 (41,47,53) - how about delete these notes? will be more easy for new players Don't want to risk the Futsuu being way too hard compared to Kantan, so these stay (for now)
    01:51:964 (38) - finish missing hm... yeah, readded it
[Futsuu]

  • 01:51:964 (57) - finish missing

    Nothing to suggest here, I think you can make this futsuu easier ;w; tried to make it a bit easier
[Muzukashii]

  • 00:47:859 (24) - change to k? i think is better higher diffs you the same pattern, keeping it as it is now
    01:51:964 (85) - finish missing
[Oni]

  • 01:51:964 (121) - finish missing
[Inner Oni]

  • I think is better reduce sv 1,60 ==> 1,40 for this reason t/243350, for the WereOni is ok i think, because is the hardest diff of the map changed (also the streams in WereOni are pain to read with 1.4 imo)

    01:25:043 (125) - change to k? (ddkkd) sounds better imo changed
    01:35:306 (9) - change to k? ^
    01:37:832 (31) - change to k? ^
    01:40:359 (55) - ^? want to keep the double kdddk tho
[WereOni]

  • Nothing to suggest here, fun to play :3 :3
Good luck! :3
thanks!
Kurosanyan

I see what you did there. inb4 Star Rating ruined by mods
Anyway, after half a month being ill/depressed/both or busy mapping taiko, I'm finally back to modding, sorry for being late. :(

[General]
  1. 00:02:621 - Use 40%? I think it might be a bit too loud.
  2. 00:23:305 - and 00:32:936 - Use 40% and 55% instead? Here it's too quiet imo.
  3. 01:12:804 - until 01:34:278 - Keep volume consistency with the first half please. The start is louder than before and there's points missing.
[Kantan]
  1. 00:34:831 (18) - Remove and add a k at 00:34:515 - ? It feels a bit inconsistent and weird to play.
  2. 00:42:172 (31,1,2) - It's really weird to start the kiai and have a finisher in the middle of a triplet imo.
    Remove (31) or move it to 00:41:857 - ?
    Move (2) to 00:43:120 - ? It fits way better with the music to leave a break between 00:42:488 - and 00:43:120 - too.
  3. 00:52:909 (24) - Same suggestion as before, would be better at 00:53:225 -
  4. 01:02:699 - until 01:12:804 - I think it would be better to keep the consistency of dons as you did for 01:02:699 (1) - like this:
  5. 01:12:804 (22) - Add a finisher?
  6. 01:22:593 (36) - Delete to leave a break and to make the pattern start on the next part?
  7. 01:31:436 (56,57,58,59,60) - Move them all 1/1 earlier? The duplet 01:30:488 (54,55) - feels wrong.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:27:884 (64,65) - and 01:17:857 (41,42) - I think you should avoid 1/2 finishers on Futsuu, especially on high bpm maps with SV bellow 1.4.
  2. 00:12:726 (25) - Would be really better as a D to fit with the song.
  3. 00:25:515 (59) - Unlike the next pattern, there's nothing here needing to make a 1/2 duplet with a d. You really should remove it and maybe add a note at 00:25:042 - instead.
  4. 00:37:436 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,1) - Here the difficulty curve would be better if it was escalating. If you don't want to make something too hard, maybe try something kinda like this:
  5. If you followed my previous suggestion, for 00:32:936 - you should try this to be consistent with 00:37:436 - :

    If you followed my previous suggestion, ignore this.
    1. 00:34:831 (81) - For consistency, you should add a don at 00:33:568 - too.
    2. 00:34:357 (79) - For consistency again, you should add a don at 00:34:989 - or move this note there instead. The song here needs an escalating difficulty, so making it go up and down feels really wrong.
  6. 00:42:804 (2) - As I suggested on the Kantan, it would be way better to move it at 00:43:120 - imo.
  7. 00:48:014 - Add a don to follow the drum sound?
  8. 00:52:593 (32,33,34) - If you want to keep following the drums on (33) and (34) here, you should change (32) to D. Else, you can follow the melody again and move (33) and (34) to 1/1 later and do the same with 00:54:172 (37,38) - but I think the D on (32) would be better and would improve consistency with 00:53:857 (36) - (they sound the same).
  9. 01:15:488 (36) - Same suggestion as 00:25:515 (59) -
  10. 01:22:909 - until 01:34:278 - , same suggestions as before too. Making it a bit different to the previous part while staying consistent would be fine though.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:02:621 - until 00:12:726 - No break for 8 stanza and a pattern repeating itself for the whole thing even though the music has variations, you should definitely do something about this. Here are some suggestions:
  2. 00:04:673 (9) - Move to 00:04:042 - to leave a break and avoid repetitive patterns? It fits well with the flow of the music too. Else you can remove both this note and 00:04:199 (7) - .
  3. 00:07:199 (19) - ^
  4. 00:07:673 - until 00:10:199 - Here you shouldn't change anything, it's good the way it is.
  5. 00:10:831 - Add a d here? Kinda trying to fit with this background sound and the fact it's the climax of this part.
  6. 00:11:778 (37) - and 00:12:252 (39) - Remove those to let the player take a good break at the end of the intro?

  7. 00:25:673 - Add a d? It fits better, unlike the 2 next following pattern where the duplet fits well for an emphasis on drums, there's just the melody here. You could do kd dk as you did on the Oni too.
  8. 00:37:436 - until 00:41:541 - Make the first half like the previous part and add notes at 00:40:120 - and 00:40:751 - to make the difficulty curve escalate as I said for the Futsuu? Don't change 00:41:225 (134,135,136,137,138) - though.
  9. 00:42:488 (1) - should be a D or 00:45:014 (13) - should be a k, for consistency.
  10. 00:59:383 - Add a d... maybe?
  11. 01:15:488 (56) - Same suggestion as before.
  12. 01:22:909 - ~ 01:33:330 - Again, consider a consistent difficulty curve.
[Oni]
  1. 00:02:621 - ~ 00:12:726 - Kinda the same suggestion as the Muzu, but with more notes.
  2. 00:22:515 (108,109) - Normal notes instead of finishers? It's more calm than the previous patterns and normal notes would put a better emphasis on 00:22:989 (110) - . It plays better too.
  3. 00:30:884 (133) - Remove for the break emphasis? Or add a d at 00:25:673 - instead? Those 2 parts shouldn't be the same.
  4. 00:34:673 - Add a d for consistency with the previous part?
  5. 00:40:120 - Add a d? Same reason.
  6. 00:41:383 - Add a k? ^
  7. 00:41:778 - I think the sound you're following ends here, so add a d maybe?
  8. 00:51:804 - Add a d?
  9. 01:12:488 (62,63) - Same as before.
  10. 01:17:857 (78,79) - You should keep consistency with the first half of the song, so consider removing the finisher on the K or add it on the first half.
  11. 01:20:383 (85,86,87,88) - Same suggestion as the first part.
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:09:252 (36) - k, as you did on the WereOni, for pattern variation?
  2. 00:30:410 (148,149,150,151) - Same as Oni.
  3. 00:40:593 (201) - d?
  4. For a better consistency, move 00:45:409 (28) - to 00:45:725 - and 00:46:672 (39) - to 00:46:357 - ? It plays way better and sounds more natural.
  5. 01:20:541 - bla
  6. 01:33:330 (193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204) - Those are the only 1/6 of the map so you should consider removing them and do as you did on the first half... or add more 1/6 on the map.
  7. You might consider easier patterns on the second kiai. It's way harder than the rest of the map. :( (It should be harder, but not that much. I'm talking about patterns like those 01:35:857 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - )
[WereOni]
  1. 00:12:568 (66) - Remove? There's almost no sound here and it really feels like a perfect place for a break. And your SR would still be 666
  2. 00:22:831 (153,154) - Remove (153) and K for (154)?
  3. 00:23:463 - and 01:13:436 - : Add a bit more notes? Also, same suggestion as Oni and Inner again.
  4. 00:38:067 (215,216,217,218,219) - kkkkd ?
  5. Remove 00:39:409 (225) - for consistency?
  6. 00:41:541 (250,251,252,253) - ddkk for consistency again?
  7. 00:46:436 (49) - d for consistency with 00:47:067 (57) - ? It's probably easier to play too.
  8. 00:52:593 (124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155) - The rhythm of the pattern here feels inconsistent and a bit random (the dons placement sounds bad). Try to make it sounds better and try to make each half of it similar for consistency. Maybe something like kkkkdkkkdkkdkkddkkkkdkkkdkkdkkddk.
  9. 01:30:488 - (dddd dddd dddk dddk ddkk ddkk dkkk dkkk) or (dddd dddk dddd dddk ddkk dkkk ddkk dkkk) for consistency?
  10. 01:34:514 (3) - Remove as you did for the first kiai maybe? It sounds better imo. rip 666 if you do this though. :(
  11. 01:39:014 (60) - k?
  12. 01:44:225 (126) - d?
  13. 01:44:383 - Kinda the same issue as the second half of the first kiai.
  14. 01:49:751 (196) - k to fit the drums?
That last stream though. ;w;

Anyway, finally over. Nice map and nice song, go rank! o/
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Kurosanyan wrote:


I see what you did there. inb4 Star Rating ruined by mods
Anyway, after half a month being ill/depressed/both or busy mapping taiko, I'm finally back to modding, sorry for being late. :(

[General]
  1. 00:02:621 - Use 40%? I think it might be a bit too loud. That's so nazi I don't even
  2. 00:23:305 - and 00:32:936 - Use 40% and 55% instead? Here it's too quiet imo. increase volume
  3. 01:12:804 - until 01:34:278 - Keep volume consistency with the first half please. The start is louder than before and there's points missing. Song has different volume
[Kantan]
  1. 00:34:831 (18) - Remove and add a k at 00:34:515 - ? It feels a bit inconsistent and weird to play. 00:35:147 - Would be as weird if a note misses here (and I won't add one here)
  2. 00:42:172 (31,1,2) - It's really weird to start the kiai and have a finisher in the middle of a triplet imo.
    Remove (31) or move it to 00:41:857 - ? Removed 30 and 31
  3. 00:52:909 (24) - Same suggestion as before, would be better at 00:53:225 - nu
  4. 01:02:699 - until 01:12:804 - I think it would be better to keep the consistency of dons as you did for 01:02:699 (1) - like this:
    no
  5. 01:12:804 (22) - Add a finisher? yes
  6. 01:22:593 (36) - Delete to leave a break and to make the pattern start on the next part? 00:32:621 (13) - *cough*
  7. 01:31:436 (56,57,58,59,60) - Move them all 1/1 earlier? The duplet 01:30:488 (54,55) - feels wrong. slightly remapped
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:27:884 (64,65) - and 01:17:857 (41,42) - I think you should avoid 1/2 finishers on Futsuu, especially on high bpm maps with SV bellow 1.4. removed finisher
  2. 00:12:726 (25) - Would be really better as a D to fit with the song. nope
  3. 00:25:515 (59) - Unlike the next pattern, there's nothing here needing to make a 1/2 duplet with a d. You really should remove it and maybe add a note at 00:25:042 - instead. changed differently
  4. 00:37:436 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,1) - Here the difficulty curve would be better if it was escalating. If you don't want to make something too hard, maybe try something kinda like this: I don't see a reason for making this harder since the kiai is hardly any harder
    If you followed my previous suggestion, ignore this.
    1. 00:34:831 (81) - For consistency, you should add a don at 00:33:568 - too. it's a break
    2. 00:34:357 (79) - For consistency again, you should add a don at 00:34:989 - or move this note there instead. The song here needs an escalating difficulty, so making it go up and down feels really wrong. it doesn't go up and down it's a single 1/1.. "pattern"
  5. 00:42:804 (2) - As I suggested on the Kantan, it would be way better to move it at 00:43:120 - imo. same change as Kantan
  6. 00:48:014 - Add a don to follow the drum sound? no
  7. 00:52:593 (32,33,34) - If you want to keep following the drums on (33) and (34) here, you should change (32) to D. Else, you can follow the melody again and move (33) and (34) to 1/1 later and do the same with 00:54:172 (37,38) - but I think the D on (32) would be better and would improve consistency with 00:53:857 (36) - (they sound the same). changed
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:02:621 - until 00:12:726 - No break for 8 stanza and a pattern repeating itself for the whole thing even though the music has variations, you should definitely do something about this. Here are some suggestions: simplified by my own
  2. 00:25:673 - Add a d? It fits better, unlike the 2 next following pattern where the duplet fits well for an emphasis on drums, there's just the melody here. You could do kd dk as you did on the Oni too. kd dk is too much imo
  3. 00:42:488 (1) - should be a D or 00:45:014 (13) - should be a k, for consistency. These notes have nothing in common
  4. 00:59:383 - Add a d... maybe? 1/1 break
[Oni]
  1. 00:02:621 - ~ 00:12:726 - Kinda the same suggestion as the Muzu, but with more notes. simplified too
  2. 00:22:515 (108,109) - Normal notes instead of finishers? It's more calm than the previous patterns and normal notes would put a better emphasis on 00:22:989 (110) - . It plays better too. idk. Might consider this. Kinda like it to end the strong part since it's getting calm now
  3. 00:30:884 (133) - Remove for the break emphasis? Or add a d at 00:25:673 - instead? Those 2 parts shouldn't be the same. don't like this
  4. 00:34:673 - Add a d for consistency with the previous part? 1/1 break to split 1/2+1/4
  5. 00:41:778 - I think the sound you're following ends here, so add a d maybe? maybe
  6. 00:51:804 - Add a d? no
  7. 01:17:857 (78,79) - You should keep consistency with the first half of the song, so consider removing the finisher on the K or add it on the first half. what
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:09:252 (36) - k, as you did on the WereOni, for pattern variation? simplified whole part, this suggestion became irrelevant
  2. 00:40:593 (201) - d? only using kat for the sound
  3. For a better consistency, move 00:45:409 (28) - to 00:45:725 - and 00:46:672 (39) - to 00:46:357 - ? It plays way better and sounds more natural. changed
  4. 01:33:330 (193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204) - Those are the only 1/6 of the map so you should consider removing them and do as you did on the first half... or add more 1/6 on the map. gon
  5. You might consider easier patterns on the second kiai. It's way harder than the rest of the map. :( (It should be harder, but not that much. I'm talking about patterns like those 01:35:857 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - ) It needs to have some connection to the harder patterns (and stream) in WereOni to avoid a too unbalanced spread
[WereOni]
  1. 00:12:568 (66) - Remove? There's almost no sound here and it really feels like a perfect place for a break. And your SR would still be 666 gon
  2. 00:22:831 (153,154) - Remove (153) and K for (154)? ye
  3. 00:23:463 - and 01:13:436 - : Add a bit more notes? Also, same suggestion as Oni and Inner again. why more notes
  4. 00:38:067 (215,216,217,218,219) - kkkkd ? 1/2 don stream
  5. Remove 00:39:409 (225) - for consistency? Had that before. Then I added the note, it's better that way.
  6. 00:41:541 (250,251,252,253) - ddkk for consistency again? you don't see the pattern
  7. 00:46:436 (49) - d for consistency with 00:47:067 (57) - ? It's probably easier to play too. Adding kats
  8. 00:52:593 (124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155) - The rhythm of the pattern here feels inconsistent and a bit random (the dons placement sounds bad). Try to make it sounds better and try to make each half of it similar for consistency. Maybe something like kkkkdkkkdkkdkkddkkkkdkkkdkkdkkddk. Followed... voice more precisely
  9. 01:30:488 - (dddd dddd dddk dddk ddkk ddkk dkkk dkkk) or (dddd dddk dddd dddk ddkk dkkk ddkk dkkk) for consistency? has nothing to do with consistency
  10. 01:34:514 (3) - Remove as you did for the first kiai maybe? It sounds better imo. rip 666 if you do this though. :( ye and pls 6.66 still there
  11. 01:39:014 (60) - k? 01:39:014 (59,62) - Traded these
  12. 01:44:225 (126) - d? nah
  13. 01:49:751 (196) - k to fit the drums? ye
That last stream though. ;w; rip

Anyway, finally over. Nice map and nice song, go rank! o/
thanks!
Stefan
[Kantan]
00:23:463 (1,2,3,5,6,8,9) - Ich kann persönlich nichts mit diesen Noten anfangen. Der Teil im Lied ist irgendwie richtig schlecht mapbar für eine Kantan, ich würde es ehrlich vorziehen die auszulassen, da du bei den Dons einen wenigstens einigermaßen hörbaren Klang hast, wonach man tappt.
00:33:884 (16,17,18) - Ich kapiere den Übergang nicht allzu wirklich tbh. Es würde besser sein, sich nach dem hellen Sound bei 00:33:884 zu orientieren. Ich würde es dann so machen: http://puu.sh/dDOaI/6894599dfc.jpg
00:46:593 (10) - würde ich entfernen um 00:46:278 (9,11) mehr zu betonen.
00:51:014 (20,21) - Wieso gehst du hier nach dem 2/1 Takt? Markier beide und schieb sie zur vorherigen weißen Linie: http://puu.sh/dDQ46/d22cd9de21.jpg
00:53:857 (25,26) - Uh.. sollte das nicht eigentlich umgekehrt sein? Von den Hitsounds her.
00:56:699 (32) - Ähnlich wie 00:46:593 (10) würde ich den für die Betonung entfernen.
01:03:962 (4) - Eventuell könntest du diese nach 01:04:593 verschieben um den eine Sound bei 01:04:593 zu mappen.
01:06:488 (9) - ^
01:09:014 (14) - ^
01:13:436 (23,24,25,27,28,30,31) - Ähnlich was ich bei 00:23:463 (1,2,3,5,6,8,9) gesagt habe, würde ich die eher auslassen.
01:22:909 - 01:34:278 - Ich finde, das spielt sich hier so inkonsistent im Vergleich zu dem Rest der Map, besonders wenn es um 00:32:936 - 00:42:488. Ich würde schauen, dass du einen klaren Rhythmus verwendest (01:22:909 (36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47) spielt sich imo halt nach nichts.. Betontem, eher einfach, dass die Noten die Zeit hier ausfüllen) und dich auch ein wenig an 00:32:936 - 00:42:488 orientierst, so als Widerspieleffekt um es nochmal zu wiederholen.
01:47:225 (29) - Würde ich entfernen um 01:46:909 (28,30) besser zu betonen.

[Futsuu]
00:14:936 (28,29) - Anfangs wollte ich eigentlich meckern, dass man irgendwie nichts Richtiges bei (29) raushören kann bis ich es mir bei 25% Playback angehört habe... trotzdem allem würde allerdings raten, die Hitsounds hier zu drehen. Der dampfende Beat bei 00:15:094 ist definitiv nichts, wo du ein Katsu verwendest.
00:17:463 (35,36) - ^
00:27:884 (60,61) - Auch hier würde ich es umdrehen.
00:39:014 - 00:40:278 - Einen persönlichen Vorschlag den ich gerne geben würde für den Teil: http://puu.sh/dDWAI/a3fb8dcc32.jpg (Die Noten (89,90,91) wären dafür gut, da sich die sehr ähnlich wie 00:39:330 (86,87,88) anhören würden.)
00:44:541 (8) - Ich finde wie du 00:43:436 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) gemappt hast gut, aber die 1/2 Note bei 00:44:541 finde ich kann man fast schon auslassen. Der Übergang ddk d k d k finde ich gut und sollte eigentlich komplett ausreichen um alles Wichtige zu decken.
00:56:383 (44) - Macht imo wenig Sinn die Note als k zu haben, obwohl fast immer bei diesem "Pieps"sound d getappt wird.

[Muzukashii]
01:02:699 - 01:12:804 - Was mir hier nicht gefällt ist, dass es im Vergleich zu 00:12:726 - 00:22:831 nicht so... smooth ist. Also es wirkt "stressiger" zu spielen aufgrund er Densityunterschiede. Ich verstehe, dass das in der zweiten Hälfte schon "mehr" von der Musik zu bieten hat, aber es wäre etwas besser, einzelne Noten zu haben, die nicht mit 1/2 Noten verbunden sind: http://puu.sh/dE1JW/875b59940f.jpg http://puu.sh/dE1La/d134b80407.jpg
01:12:804 - Warum hast du hier nicht die SV reduziert wie bei der ersten Hälfte? :P
01:43:830 (47,48,49) - Da du es so gut wie immer gemacht hast - und es auch dann wieder dauern würde bis eine vernünftige Pausezeit kommt - solltest du diese Noten auslassen.
01:48:172 (71,72,73) - Sollte das nicht eher ddd sein? Wegen Konsistenz undso.

[Oni]
00:35:463 - Sieht nicht wirklich toll aus, dass 00:35:463 (151) als Einziges hier schneller wird. Da könnte das genauso gut bei 00:37:436 anfangen, was ich auch dringend raten würde.
00:45:962 - 00:46:909 - Ich weiß nicht.... das spielt sich sicherlich gut, wenn das ein zusammenhängender Pattern wäre - also ohne den Abstand zwischen den beiden Stream pattern - aber einzeln sieht das irgendwie authentisch aus und spielt sich auch so. Ich würde 00:46:278 (30,34) entfernen, das macht die Sache weitaus betonender.
01:00:172 - 01:01:120 - Hier würde ich dann eher vorschlagen eine Note bei 01:00:646 hinzupacken, das verbindet die beiden Stream pattern und macht den Übergang geschmeidiger.


Ich werde morgen dann die restlichen beiden Difficulties modden. Bis dahin schaust du noch wegen der Kantan - wie ich dir per PM zugesagt habe - und holst dir da noch ein paar Meinungen dazu, da ich mir momentan wirklich nicht sicher bei der Difficulty bin.
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Stefan wrote:

[Kantan]
00:23:463 (1,2,3,5,6,8,9) - Ich kann persönlich nichts mit diesen Noten anfangen. Der Teil im Lied ist irgendwie richtig schlecht mapbar für eine Kantan, ich würde es ehrlich vorziehen die auszulassen, da du bei den Dons einen wenigstens einigermaßen hörbaren Klang hast, wonach man tappt. Notenzahl stark reduziert
00:33:884 (16,17,18) - Ich kapiere den Übergang nicht allzu wirklich tbh. Es würde besser sein, sich nach dem hellen Sound bei 00:33:884 zu orientieren. Ich würde es dann so machen: http://puu.sh/dDOaI/6894599dfc.jpg Ich hätte nur ungerne eine Note vor dem big kat... hab 00:34:515 - hier eine Note hinzugefügt, vielleicht geht das ja
00:46:593 (10) - würde ich entfernen um 00:46:278 (9,11) mehr zu betonen. jo
00:51:014 (20,21) - Wieso gehst du hier nach dem 2/1 Takt? Markier beide und schieb sie zur vorherigen weißen Linie: http://puu.sh/dDQ46/d22cd9de21.jpg ka was ich gemacht und ob es dem mod entsprach, hab aber mal an der Stelle gearbeitet
00:53:857 (25,26) - Uh.. sollte das nicht eigentlich umgekehrt sein? Von den Hitsounds her. nö, wollte etwas weg von den oxo patterns (jaja Kantan soll leicht sein, hat aber 00:52:593 (22,23) - als Vorgänger was ganz okay aussieht). Hier habe ich versucht kurz dem etwas lauter gewordenem... Synthesizer zu folgen und ein bisschen pitch mapping zu machen
00:56:699 (32) - Ähnlich wie 00:46:593 (10) würde ich den für die Betonung entfernen. jo
01:03:962 (4) - Eventuell könntest du diese nach 01:04:593 verschieben um den eine Sound bei 01:04:593 zu mappen.
01:06:488 (9) - ^
01:09:014 (14) - ^ nein, wollte hier nicht zu viel kdK patterns haben, sondern den Spielern erstmal an die große Anzahl an Finishern gewöhnen... um dann kdK zu machen!
01:13:436 (23,24,25,27,28,30,31) - Ähnlich was ich bei 00:23:463 (1,2,3,5,6,8,9) gesagt habe, würde ich die eher auslassen. selbe Änderung
01:22:909 - 01:34:278 - Ich finde, das spielt sich hier so inkonsistent im Vergleich zu dem Rest der Map, besonders wenn es um 00:32:936 - 00:42:488. Ich würde schauen, dass du einen klaren Rhythmus verwendest (01:22:909 (36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47) spielt sich imo halt nach nichts.. Betontem, eher einfach, dass die Noten die Zeit hier ausfüllen) und dich auch ein wenig an 00:32:936 - 00:42:488 orientierst, so als Widerspieleffekt um es nochmal zu wiederholen. Mal sehen wie es jetzt ist
01:47:225 (29) - Würde ich entfernen um 01:46:909 (28,30) besser zu betonen. Hab noch nix geändert, sieht doch jetzt genauso wie 00:54:804 (27,28,29,30,31,32) - aus?

[Futsuu]
00:14:936 (28,29) - Anfangs wollte ich eigentlich meckern, dass man irgendwie nichts Richtiges bei (29) raushören kann bis ich es mir bei 25% Playback angehört habe... trotzdem allem würde allerdings raten, die Hitsounds hier zu drehen. Der dampfende Beat bei 00:15:094 ist definitiv nichts, wo du ein Katsu verwendest. habs zu double kat geändert
00:17:463 (35,36) - ^ ^
00:27:884 (60,61) - Auch hier würde ich es umdrehen.
00:39:014 - 00:40:278 - Einen persönlichen Vorschlag den ich gerne geben würde für den Teil: http://puu.sh/dDWAI/a3fb8dcc32.jpg (Die Noten (89,90,91) wären dafür gut, da sich die sehr ähnlich wie 00:39:330 (86,87,88) anhören würden.) Würde gerne die dons auf die 3 behalten
00:44:541 (8) - Ich finde wie du 00:43:436 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) gemappt hast gut, aber die 1/2 Note bei 00:44:541 finde ich kann man fast schon auslassen. Der Übergang ddk d k d k finde ich gut und sollte eigentlich komplett ausreichen um alles Wichtige zu decken. jo
00:56:383 (44) - Macht imo wenig Sinn die Note als k zu haben, obwohl fast immer bei diesem "Pieps"sound d getappt wird. jo

[Muzukashii]
01:02:699 - 01:12:804 - Was mir hier nicht gefällt ist, dass es im Vergleich zu 00:12:726 - 00:22:831 nicht so... smooth ist. Also es wirkt "stressiger" zu spielen aufgrund er Densityunterschiede. Ich verstehe, dass das in der zweiten Hälfte schon "mehr" von der Musik zu bieten hat, aber es wäre etwas besser, einzelne Noten zu haben, die nicht mit 1/2 Noten verbunden sind: http://puu.sh/dE1JW/875b59940f.jpg http://puu.sh/dE1La/d134b80407.jpg ääääääääh hab iwas gemacht, ungefähr das Selbe
01:12:804 - Warum hast du hier nicht die SV reduziert wie bei der ersten Hälfte? :P Der Teil ist lauter als der Andere
01:43:830 (47,48,49) - Da du es so gut wie immer gemacht hast - und es auch dann wieder dauern würde bis eine vernünftige Pausezeit kommt - solltest du diese Noten auslassen. jo
01:48:172 (71,72,73) - Sollte das nicht eher ddd sein? Wegen Konsistenz undso. jo

[Oni]
00:35:463 - Sieht nicht wirklich toll aus, dass 00:35:463 (151) als Einziges hier schneller wird. Da könnte das genauso gut bei 00:37:436 anfangen, was ich auch dringend raten würde. dat war ein Ausversehen c: (denke ich mal, wird in den höheren diffs geändert
00:45:962 - 00:46:909 - Ich weiß nicht.... das spielt sich sicherlich gut, wenn das ein zusammenhängender Pattern wäre - also ohne den Abstand zwischen den beiden Stream pattern - aber einzeln sieht das irgendwie authentisch aus und spielt sich auch so. Ich würde 00:46:278 (30,34) entfernen, das macht die Sache weitaus betonender. 00:46:672 (32,34) - Hab diese zwei stattdessen entfernt... verstehe den Sinn hinter 30 nicht
01:00:172 - 01:01:120 - Hier würde ich dann eher vorschlagen eine Note bei 01:00:646 hinzupacken, das verbindet die beiden Stream pattern und macht den Übergang geschmeidiger. jo


Ich werde morgen dann die restlichen beiden Difficulties modden. Bis dahin schaust du noch wegen der Kantan - wie ich dir per PM zugesagt habe - und holst dir da noch ein paar Meinungen dazu, da ich mir momentan wirklich nicht sicher bei der Difficulty bin. Dainesl wird sich hoffentlich nochmal die Kantan anschauen :3
thanks!

Can't wait for the rest

/me call Dain
Asagi Mutsuki
Nwolf asked me to check the Kantan so..here we go!

General
  1. The J in O2Jam should be capitalized baka
baKantan
  1. 00:19:042 - eh I'd rather have this note at 00:19:673 since you have kdk only when there's that emphasized sound like 00:21:252
  2. 00:22:831 - gdieugdhiudiuqhdiuhqwdiuqw WHY IS THIS NOT A BIG DON !!!!111!!!!ONE!!ONE!!!!1! um pretty sure having a big note is okay since you have 01:12:488 (21,22) which has two consecutive big notes that is obviously much harder so difficulty shouldn't be an issue here
  3. 00:31:673 (6,7) - *personal preference* idk isn't dk more common before kdk kdk patterns. Also see 00:37:436 (16,17). Change 01:21:646 (28,29) too if you fixed this since they're the same
  4. After 00:41:225 - Why is the most intense part before the kiai mapped with, um, nothing? Add some notes here pls ;w;
  5. After 00:51:330 - ^
  6. 00:59:541 (36,37) - Ctrl+G these because of the pitch? Also dkk d k plays more fluid than dkk k d since it has the d k d k rhythm going :3
wow crappy mod is crappy, sry ;w;

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Nwolf

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Nwolf asked me to check the Kantan so..here we go!

General
  1. The J in O2Jam should be capitalized baka
baKantan wow
  1. 00:19:042 - eh I'd rather have this note at 00:19:673 since you have kdk only when there's that emphasized sound like 00:21:252 moved
  2. 00:22:831 - gdieugdhiudiuqhdiuhqwdiuqw WHY IS THIS NOT A BIG DON !!!!111!!!!ONE!!ONE!!!!1! um pretty sure having a big note is okay since you have 01:12:488 (21,22) which has two consecutive big notes that is obviously much harder so difficulty shouldn't be an issue here removed the note before too
  3. 00:31:673 (6,7) - *personal preference* idk isn't dk more common before kdk kdk patterns. Also see 00:37:436 (16,17). Change 01:21:646 (28,29) too if you fixed this since they're the same changed
  4. After 00:41:225 - Why is the most intense part before the kiai mapped with, um, nothing? Add some notes here pls ;w; cause this isn't kiai
  5. After 00:51:330 - ^ to emphasis 00:52:593 (21) -
  6. 00:59:541 (36,37) - Ctrl+G these because of the pitch? Also dkk d k plays more fluid than dkk k d since it has the d k d k rhythm going :3 changed
wow crappy mod is crappy, sry ;w; pls cdhmod2stronk

Good luck!
Thanks!
Asagi Mutsuki
and...there goes my 100th kudosu \:D/
Dainesl
I already gave you some feedback, didn't I? at least, on the Kantan. call me in-game if you want a full recheck of the higher diffs.
Topic Starter
Nwolf
you already did yes
Stefan
Okay, ich schau mir nochmal alle Difficulties so durch, auf Nummer sicher undso. :P

[Kantan]
Sollte passen.. hoffentlich.

[Futsuu]
Sieht gut aus.

[Muzukashii]
00:38:225 (112) - Würde ich löschen, um einen interessanteren Übergang zu machen, da du momentan ooo ooo ooo ooo hintereinander hast und ooo o o ooo ooo etwas abwechslungsreicher ist.

[Oni]
Läuft.

[Inner Oni]
Ich finde die Sprünge zwischen den Kiai Zeiten von der Inner Oni und Oni teilweise echt krass, ich würde dir vorschlagen noch bei fünfer Note pattern zu bleiben, ansonsten könnte man die Anzahl/Density der Noten beibehalten.

[WereOni]

u sure m8

Ich finde 1.60x hier ist ein wenig derp.. ich würde das mit der 1.6x auf die Kiai begrenzen, quasi um da die ganze Enerige, die man mit der Map/Musik entfachen möchte, dort zu versetzen.
Beide Kiais - Das wird nicht so gehen. In der ersten Kiai ist das noch knapp dran, aber die zweite wirst du splitten müssen. Ich will auch jetzt nicht wie ein Arsch klingen, aber das würde ich nicht so wie es im Moment ist bubblen wollen. Entferne folgende Noten:
00:50:462 (99) -
00:51:093 (107) -
00:51:725 (115) -
00:57:725 (189,190,191) -
01:39:409 (64,66) -
01:44:462 (126) -
01:49:514 (192,193,194) -

Ansonsten was ich noch hinzuzufügen habe:
00:47:541 (62) - Irgendwie finde ich den Break unnatürlich. Mach eher was in der Richtung: http://puu.sh/dI31a/57cb4e514b.jpg (Hitsounds je nach deinem Geschmack anpassen.)

Bei der WereOni muss ich sagen, dass es mir eher danach anfühlt, als wäre sie der Difficulty halber gemappt und nicht ganz nach der Musik. Mag jetzt einfach vielleicht nur mein schlechtes Einschätzungsvermögen sein, ich wollte es nur erwähnt haben. Da du das eh gleich liest, können wir das auch gleich per PM weiterdiskutieren.
Topic Starter
Nwolf

Stefan wrote:

Okay, ich schau mir nochmal alle Difficulties so durch, auf Nummer sicher undso. :P

[Kantan]
Sollte passen.. hoffentlich.

[Futsuu]
Sieht gut aus.

[Muzukashii]
00:38:225 (112) - Würde ich löschen, um einen interessanteren Übergang zu machen, da du momentan ooo ooo ooo ooo hintereinander hast und ooo o o ooo ooo etwas abwechslungsreicher ist. jo

[Oni]
Läuft.

[Inner Oni]
Ich finde die Sprünge zwischen den Kiai Zeiten von der Inner Oni und Oni teilweise echt krass, ich würde dir vorschlagen noch bei fünfer Note pattern zu bleiben, ansonsten könnte man die Anzahl/Density der Noten beibehalten. Hab stattdessen 00:47:383 - eine break gemacht 01:38:778 - das gelöscht und in der Oni 01:36:093 - eine Note hinzugefügt. Ansonsten ist in der kiai zwischen allen diffs ein recht großer Unterschied, was dann als spread wieder Sinn macht.

[WereOni]

u sure m8

Ich finde 1.60x hier ist ein wenig derp.. ich würde das mit der 1.6x auf die Kiai begrenzen, quasi um da die ganze Enerige, die man mit der Map/Musik entfachen möchte, dort zu versetzen. Dann beschweren sich alle wieder wegen "ew SV increase". Ich überlegs mir nochmal.
Beide Kiais - Das wird nicht so gehen. In der ersten Kiai ist das noch knapp dran, aber die zweite wirst du splitten müssen. Ich will auch jetzt nicht wie ein Arsch klingen, aber das würde ich nicht so wie es im Moment ist bubblen wollen. Entferne folgende Noten:
00:50:462 (99) -
00:51:093 (107) -
00:51:725 (115) -
00:57:725 (189,190,191) -
01:39:409 (64,66) -
01:44:462 (126) -
01:49:514 (192,193,194) -

Ich hab mir jetzt nicht notiert wo ich Pausen hinzugefügt hab.. ich weiß nur, dass die woanders waren, da ich sie an den vorgeschlagenen Stellen unpassend fand.

Ansonsten was ich noch hinzuzufügen habe:
00:47:541 (62) - Irgendwie finde ich den Break unnatürlich. Mach eher was in der Richtung: http://puu.sh/dI31a/57cb4e514b.jpg (Hitsounds je nach deinem Geschmack anpassen.) jo

Bei der WereOni muss ich sagen, dass es mir eher danach anfühlt, als wäre sie der Difficulty halber gemappt und nicht ganz nach der Musik. Mag jetzt einfach vielleicht nur mein schlechtes Einschätzungsvermögen sein, ich wollte es nur erwähnt haben. Da du das eh gleich liest, können wir das auch gleich per PM weiterdiskutieren.
01:11:620 - Added a note here

thanks!
Dainesl
RIP 6.66 SR we will miss you ;w;7
Stefan
Okay, I have talked with some people in #taiko about the WereOni Difficulty and the including points:

  1. About the SV usage
  2. About the 1/6 sections
  3. About the Stream pattern in the Kiai sections
Chatlog
03:20 Stefan: oДo
03:20 OnosakiHito: I did some IRC modding before, indeed. But can't remember.
03:20 OnosakiHito: Let me see.
03:20 Stefan: It's only about the very, very VERY long stream in the Kiai(s) at WereOni.
03:20 XK2238: red aaaaa
03:21 OnosakiHito: In all honest, in the past I said we must be caution with this set.
03:21 OnosakiHito: I don't know how much changed in the set.
03:21 OnosakiHito: the 1.6 SV was the biggest problem.
03:21 Stefan: Neither I do but it looks good for the most part.
03:21 Stefan: Only WereOni and Kantan makes me think about.
03:22 Dainesl: So the rest of the diffs are okay?
03:22 Stefan: Yee
03:22 Dainesl: I'm not really sure what to make of the WereOni
03:22 Stefan: I suggested to keep 1.6x SV for the Kiai
03:23 OnosakiHito: I still suggest to keep it 1.4
03:23 OnosakiHito: Or rather, recommend it.
03:23 Dainesl: You want the SV to be 1.4?
03:23 agu: btw sorry if I'm kinda derailing the conversation but do you remember that I spoke of making a project with parodies and stuff of other diff names, Ono?
03:23 OnosakiHito: Call me unfair. Call me strict. Are call me unfashioned.
03:23 OnosakiHito: But I say it should be 1.4, no matter what.
03:23 *Dainesl is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/s/194109 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [WereOni SV1.4]] <Taiko>
03:23 Dainesl: meh
03:23 OnosakiHito: SV 1.6 was never a thing for high BPM song.
03:23 OnosakiHito: Only for slow one.
03:23 XK2238: 1.4 for life!!
03:24 OnosakiHito: And tbh, I want to keep this thinking in this community.
03:24 XK2238: *slapped*
03:24 OnosakiHito: If people really don#t like SV 1.4, or have problem to read it,
03:24 OnosakiHito: there is always the option to use HR.
03:24 agu: I don't really mind the SV 1,6 but I'd prefer if it was 1,4
03:24 Stefan: If there's a good and noticeable reason to use 1.6x then I totally don't mind
03:24 Stefan: but I can't see it imho
03:25 OnosakiHito: Me too.
03:25 OnosakiHito: But I can't see it here neither.
03:25 OnosakiHito: So please remove it.
03:25 Lust: i can only forsee 1.6 sv being of any use if there are lots of 1/3 or 1/6
03:25 Lust: makes it easier to read imo
03:25 OnosakiHito: When I do my work as QAT, I won't go easy with it.
03:25 agu: eh
03:25 OnosakiHito: :/
03:25 agu: 1.6 isn't useless imo
03:25 Stefan: It isn't. lol
03:25 Stefan: But something complicated to use right.
03:26 agu: but I avoid it, it's mostly just a preference thing
03:26 Lust: oh yeah there are uses for 1.6, nobody said it wasnt lol
03:26 Dainesl: I'm not sure
03:26 agu: wmfchris loves it
03:26 Dainesl: The streams have certainly changed a lot, and they seem harder
03:26 Dainesl: even though there are less notes now
03:26 agu: well, at least that's the impression I get cause so many wmf maps are SV 1,6
03:26 Dainesl: I don't really have an issue reading it with 1.4
03:27 Lust: but i heard he was a real piece of work
03:27 Lust: lol
03:27 Lust: what is the map in question?
03:27 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461062 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [WereOni]]
03:27 *Dainesl is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/s/194109 RYO - Shuffle Heaven]
03:27 Dainesl: Dem 1/6 patterns though
03:27 Lust: oh this is an nwolf map
03:27 OnosakiHito: Anyway Stefan, it's your call. I recommend using 1.4. You know my opinion to this topic.
03:27 Lust: LOL
03:27 Stefan: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3598583 I hope the 2nd last point is going to happen aaaaaaaa
03:27 Dainesl: it's like a massive difficulty spike before the actual Kiai
03:27 _Gezo_: Ono make me mapset selector please
03:27 OnosakiHito: What I do as QAT is another thing.
03:27 *_Gezo_ runs
03:28 Stefan: Okay.
03:28 Stefan: aaaaand about the Stream?
03:28 OnosakiHito: 01:01:357 - End of stream might not fit that well like previous patterns.
03:28 Lust: looking at this map, yeah i think its one of those where 1.4 fits well
03:28 OnosakiHito: I'm fine with the first streams. Still checking upcoming parts
03:29 Lust: although once those 1/6 streams hit i cant play it anymore so, i cant really say much
03:29 agu: also uhh...mind answering me when this conversation is done, Ono?...it's not more important than the current discussion so feel free to wait~~
03:29 Dainesl: What about 01:12:488 (88,89,90,91) - compared with 00:22:515 (147,148,149) -
03:29 OnosakiHito: Oh, sorry agu. Forgot that you said somehting. My bad.
03:30 OnosakiHito: Yes I remember agu.
03:30 agu: no problem :P
03:30 Dainesl: just as a minor point
03:30 agu: okay well Ono, do you request any maps for uhm...your parody?
03:30 OnosakiHito: The 01:30:488 -
03:30 OnosakiHito: are a must to delete in some way
03:30 OnosakiHito: no matter what
03:31 Dainesl: 00:52:593 - This is where flow seems to really go away
03:31 Dainesl: and the pattern is really weird to play
03:31 agu: yeah I was thinking about nuclear fusion, obviously
03:31 OnosakiHito: Exactly Dianesl.
03:31 Lust: be sure to sure the nuclear raven taiko theme
03:31 agu: but I didn't know which of them could be challenging enough
03:31 Dainesl: But the 2nd half of that pattern
03:31 Dainesl: is back to normal flow
03:31 Dainesl: or at least a flow which is more comfortable
03:32 Dainesl: Even the last 10 notes don't form an awkward pattern at all
03:32 Dainesl: it's just that really kat-heavy section which is uuuuuuuuuuugh
03:32 OnosakiHito: With the streams I'm absolutely fine. They fit well to the song.
03:32 agu: basically all I want is a song that can be mapped to be like 6 stars or something (maybe more) and preferably like 1:30 to 2:30
03:32 OnosakiHito: 01:44:383 - this part might be too different to other parts
03:33 OnosakiHito: You might want to mention it Stefan. Everything is consistent.
03:33 Dainesl: Is it that 01:30:488 (191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198) - should be 1/4 instead or...?
03:33 OnosakiHito: Only this one part has a bunch of kats. The beat is nice, but contradicts previous mapping.
03:33 OnosakiHito: 01:30:488 (191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223) -
03:33 OnosakiHito: All of them Dain.
03:33 agu: so yeah, if you have a specific nuclear fusion song you could think of that would be nice
03:33 OnosakiHito: Same at 00:39:962
03:33 OnosakiHito: 00:39:962 -
03:34 Dainesl: *00:52:593 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153) - This is a kat-happy section too though
03:34 Dainesl: Sorry for the long pattern but this is also like that from 01:44:067 (120) -

Die 1/6 Abschnitte MÜSSEN geändert werden Ono steht da in der Ecke und wäre schon bereit, mit dem DQ-Hammer deine Map zu zerschmettern.Außerdem wird es auch dringendst empfohlen, 1.4x stattdessen zu verwenden. Gründe siehst du ja im Chatlog. Zu dem Streams in der Kiai: Sie scheinen zu passen und die Meisten finden die okay. Daher lasse ich diese auch mal in Ruhe, da es anfangs von meiner Seite aus ging und nicht konkrek ein Problem darstellte.

Außerdem wurde nochmal über die Futsuu drüber geschaut:
03:51 OnosakiHito: @Stefan: 00:51:962 - See this in the Muzu?
03:51 Dainesl: this is the only pattern like this
03:52 OnosakiHito: Muzu contains such breaks. Futsuu doesn't.
03:52 OnosakiHito: If it's true what Dain said, might be not bad to change it.
03:52 Dainesl: it goes kddkdd
03:52 Dainesl: *kddkddk
03:52 Stefan: Hmm
03:52 OnosakiHito: Maybe give the map 1~2 more mods by some experienced mappers?
03:53 OnosakiHito: We found already some questionable stuff
03:53 Dainesl: most of the other patterns are things like ddkkd
03:53 Dainesl: and simple stuff
03:53 BrosephStalin: d d k dkdkd k rinse repeat best map
03:53 Dainesl: there's a kddkd but it's not really
03:53 OnosakiHito: So doubt it will least long in qualified state atm.
03:53 Dainesl: that...striking
03:53 Stefan: The 2nd half of the first Kiai in Futsuu is kinda inconsistent, yes.
03:53 Stefan: About breaks
03:53 Stefan: But the first one is.. uh fine, I see no problem in this part.
03:54 OnosakiHito: There must be breaks. :p
03:55 Dainesl: 01:01:436 (58,59,60,1) - Stuff like this though
03:55 OnosakiHito: Main snapping is overall 1/1(with 1/2) + 2/1. Since 2/1 doesn't work as rest moment anymore, there should be bigger one.
03:55 Dainesl: I really don't get why it just suddenly switched structure right here
03:55 OnosakiHito: Just a thumb of rule Stefan.
03:56 OnosakiHito: Depending on how dense a map has been made, the breaks become its lenght.

Alsoooooo... ich will dich da echt nicht auf die Folter spannen, aber eventuell wären noch ein paar (1-3) gute Mods bezüglich der Futsuu gut. Dadurch wird eventuell die Kantan auch etwas umgeändert werden müssen. Erstmal: Lies dir das gut durch. lol
Topic Starter
Nwolf
Full list of changes
[Futsuu]

Deletions: 00:51:646 - 00:52:278 -
Moved note from 00:55:751 - here to 00:56:067 (40) - (change to kat)
Moved note from 00:57:014 - here to 00:57:330 (44) - (change to kat)
something else but I forgot to write that down (also first kiai)
01:43:436 - 01:43:751 - deleted

[Inner Oni]

01:39:725 (48,54) - Change to kats to have a few less kdddk patterns (there were far too many)
01:40:909 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - Change to kddkddk (01:35:857 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - Dain saw this) and deleted 01:41:462 -

[WereOni]

Created 2 temporary alternatives

OVERALL CHANGES:

SV to 1.4
OD/HP to 6.5 which might be lowered.
01:01:909 (240) - Reverted this note back to a kat to have more kat-heavy sections similar to 00:52:593 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153) -
01:50:067 (196,197,198,199,200,201,202) - Not entirely sure if I changed this (lol), it's kdkkdkk for the same reason as above

THE REASON why 00:52:593 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153) - remains untouched is because it is kinda split from the rest of the stream in the first kiai - in the second kiai it is split on one end.

WEREONI1:

Changed ooxx 1/6 to ooox or oxxx. 01:33:330 (224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235) - to kkkk dddd kkkk.

WEREONI2:

00:39:962 (225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247) - Simplified 1/6 to a MINIMUM.
01:30:488 (191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227) - Simplified 1/6 to a MINIMUM
01:46:830 - Deleted a note here to split the kat heavy section from the whole stream

WEREONI3:

00:39:962 (225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252) - A compromise between "kill 1/6" and me liking these. Mostly monocolor and no xxoo anymore.
01:30:488 - 01:34:120 - ^ also uses a bit of mirror patterning in style of... well, the whole map (non-stream parts) and Inner Oni.
01:46:830 - Deleted a note here to split the kat heavy section from the whole stream

EDIT: Replaced with A/B. A is WereOni with changes mentioned in post, B is the same as ver.2
Hanjamon
Personally, i think the best decision is to keep the WereOni B, the 1/6 are more playable imo, also, how about reduce the OD to 6?
Stefan
Chatlog
20:15 Stefan: Ich hab ja ansonsten nichts mehr zu befürchten, was dein Set angeht. WereOni ist auch nicht mehr mein "Sorgenkind".
20:16 Nwolf: Welche Version???
20:16 Stefan: uh
20:16 Stefan: Mal eben gucken lol
20:18 Stefan: B
20:18 Nwolf: :c
20:18 Stefan: Es ist angenehmer. Und fühlt sich nicht nach "tryharding" an.
20:19 Stefan: Ich verstehe ja, warum die ganzen 1/6 in A verwendet werden.
20:19 Stefan: Aber die Leute werden es nicht mögen.
20:19 Nwolf: das bin ich schon gewöhnt C:
20:20 Stefan: Naja, es gibt aber einen Unterschied, unique zu mappen. Da das immer geteilte Meinungen bringt.
20:20 Stefan: Oder ob es einfach nur ein Nope von den Leuten gibt.
20:20 Nwolf: Ach ja wegen den breaks in Futsuu: Es gibt auf jeden Fall mindestens eine 4/1 Pause in 20 Sekunden
20:20 Stefan: Und sie einfach keine Lust haben, sowas zu spielen.
20:23 Stefan: Hmm
20:23 Stefan: Ich werde sie mir mal anschauen.
20:24 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/461057 RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Futsuu]]
20:24 Nwolf: waaarte ich hab da trotzdem noch eine rein gemacht
20:24 Stefan: uh
20:26 Nwolf: ok ist geupdated
20:40 Stefan: Okay bei 00:46:436 (13,14) - in Futsuu
20:41 Stefan: Nach der Note bei 00:46:278 - in der Kantan ist da eine große Lücke.
20:41 Nwolf: ja die ist neu
20:41 Stefan: in der Muzukashii stattdessen hast dann o ooo danach
20:42 Stefan: (Also als ganzer Pattern wäre das dann ja kdk kkd, ja bei 00:46:436 - keine note steht.
20:42 Stefan: Möglicherweise lassen sich (13,14) entfernen und dass du auf 00:46:278 (12,15) - FInishers reinhaust.
20:43 Stefan: ...warum kommt mir das so vor, als habe ich das schonmal vorgeschlagen... egal.
20:43 Nwolf: entfernen ja aber keine Finishers
20:43 Nwolf: ka
20:43 Stefan: Hm, okay.
20:44 Stefan: Aber du merkst, weswegen es sich akustisch sich besser anhört? Oder was betont werden soll?
20:44 Nwolf: ja ich weiß wieso
20:44 Stefan: Okay.
20:44 Stefan: Immerhin wäre es bei der Futsuu 1/1 und bei der Muzukashii 1/2
20:44 Nwolf: aber die anderen haben da auch keine finisher und es ist nicht wichtig genug imo
20:49 Stefan: Hmm, wegen der Muzukashii
20:51 Nwolf: ?
20:52 Stefan: 01:02:699 - 01:12:804 - Da du in der Oni das schon eh durchmappst, solltest du hier und da noch kurze Pausen einfügen, im besten Fall in der Mitte.
20:52 Stefan: Immerhin hast du 1/1 Pausen in der Futsuu
20:52 Stefan: Während du in der Muzukashii garkeine hast.
20:53 Stefan: Also, in dem Abschnitt.
20:53 Nwolf: 00:13:357 - 00:22:989 - ?
20:54 Stefan: what xD
20:54 Stefan: 01:02:699 - 01:12:804 -
20:54 Nwolf: da ist auch kaum Pause
20:55 Nwolf: nein es ist Vergleich
20:55 Nwolf: das was ich markiert hab ist die... less calm version
20:55 Stefan: Die Abstände bei 00:15:094 (41,42) - und 00:17:621 (51,52) - bemerkbar
20:55 Stefan: Auch, weil es hier ruhiger ist.
20:56 Nwolf: 01:03:488 (5,27) - ich mach die weg???
20:56 Stefan: Da es sowieso wilder ab 00:17:778 - wird, passt das ganz gut, dass dann danach bis 00:22:989 - keine richtige Pause kommt.
20:57 Nwolf: ja eben und das ab 01:02 ist noch wilder
20:58 Stefan: 01:02:699 - 01:12:804 - ist aber etwas länger als 00:17:778 - 00:22:989 - :P
20:58 Stefan: obviously
20:58 Nwolf: blah
20:58 Nwolf: ja ich hab die zwei noten weggemacht die ich erwähnt hab
21:06 Stefan: update mal
21:07 Nwolf: updated
21:10 Stefan: Ich glaube
21:10 Stefan: wir können dem nun ein Ende setzen?
21:10 Stefan: -?
21:10 Stefan: keine Ahnung, warum das ? auf einmal da steht.
21:11 Nwolf: lol
21:11 Stefan: Jedenfalls, ist die Map bereit?
21:11 Stefan: Also, update usw.
21:11 Nwolf: jo
21:11 Nwolf: OD in WereOni ist auf 6 gesetzt btw
21:11 Nwolf: HP bleibt 6.5
21:11 Stefan: Find ich okay, hab keine Einwände
21:12 Nwolf: kk

tl;dr: Some Notes in Futsuu/Muzukashii has been removed for better break transistion in the Map spread.

yeah.
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