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Guy

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Guy 2015-04-21T08:27:54+00:00

mania diffs has been deleted, so add bubble icon instead of osu icon

p/3460013

Neta

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Neta 2015-04-21T08:47:35+00:00

thx guy

Aka

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Aka 2015-04-22T19:12:06+00:00

~~postreserving~~ DAMN FORGOT TO EDIT THIS POST

Last edited by Aka 2015-04-22T19:34:47+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Aka

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Aka 2015-04-22T19:32:29+00:00

hey, sadly im going to pop this for now. the Saki diff needs to be more polished. its pretty nice already but not ready yet for ranking. flow and jump patterns could still be improved; try to make most of your all patterns look connected, use your free greedfield for patterns, dont make a lot of overlaps and stacks with previous objects, this makes your diff look unpolished, not neat and quite messy sometimes. try to get more mods (~3-4) for this diff, based on visual improvement, connectivity between patterns and spacing changes. and then you can ask a BN to rebubble this again. and dont get me wrong, the diff is not bad at all, its very nice, as i said before, but still quite unpolished. you can contact me ingame if you have any questions etc

easy

・00:04:170 (1,1) - 00:48:056 (1,1) - not enough recovery time after spinner. you need at least one measure between these. (for ex. 00:05:713 - to 00:07:085 - )
・00:13:942 (1) - why nc? the previous phrase is still here, no need to put a nc on every downbeat
・00:19:428 (1) - same here. 00:18:399 (2,3,1,2) - this is the whole phrase. i dont think its really neccessary to make such short combos, 4 is pretty much enough too
・well, i think the whole ncing is unreasonably short.. its up to you but i'd remove these 00:22:170 (1) - , 00:30:399 (1) - 00:33:142 (1) - 00:46:685 (1) - 00:43:770 (1) - 00:58:170 (1) - 01:01:256 (1) - 01:06:056 (1) - 01:09:142 (1) - 01:11:542 (1) - 01:14:113 (1) - 01:20:113 (1) - 01:22:856 (1) - 01:25:770 (1) - ncs.
・00:42:056 (2,1) - this is not recommended for the easy difficulty, the bpm is quite high so please, avoid those 1/2 transitions
・01:01:942 (1,2) - the place where (1) ends messes this part up, you have a sound 01:03:142 - here, not on the 01:03:313 (2) - downbeat, its out beats. the rhythm pattern should be covered with red ticks, like this:

SPOILER

hard

・00:28:170 (1) - very sudden and big speed change. i'd recommend to remove it or at least make it 0.75x
・00:34:342 (4,5,1,2,3) - this rhythm pattern may be pretty hard here.. moreover, there 00:34:770 (2) - is no actul beat for a triplet, so i'd just to remove it, its not necessary to invent beats here

habi's

・00:16:684 (11,1) - swap ncs?
・00:07:513 (3,4) - it didnt feel natural to press the triplets here. there are no strong or promising for this beats, so i would recommend making it simple 1/2
・00:24:742 (1) - would be nice if you made bigger spacing for this slider, to emphasize this sound more, like here 00:25:256 (2,3) -

SPOILER

・00:41:028 (3,4,5) - spacing is overdone here, make it less huge please
・01:14:113 (9,1) - hmm swap ncs? then 01:15:656 (8) - add here

saki

・00:09:142 (1,2,3,1) - these objects doesnt play in a comfortable way and looks kinda random, i mean i (1) slider. try to make all patterns connected. like, i would suggest something like this

SPOILER

・00:10:856 (3,1) - spacing is pretty huge there and mmm as for me, it doesnt really flow natural. try to ctrl-g slider and move it a bit closer to make movements more smooth

SPOILER

・00:36:228 (4) - unnecessary speed change and a pretty awkward place to make a slider like that, tbh. try to map this part instead, there are nice beats to follow with notes and sliders
・00:38:456 (4) - again a sudden speed change. it doesnt play well, really.

you just make 1 very slow slider for one long sound in a short part, for a pretty much insane diff with big jumps and spacing, so sudden 0.50x speed chagnes for only one short sound is not a good idea. again, it doesnt play well т_т try to map such parts by following beats (00:38:885 - like here is a pretty noticeable beat, where you could make a triplet) or remove the speed
change/make it at least 0.75x
・00:44:799 (1) - i would remove nc from here and place it there 00:45:313 (4) - to make this slider more emphasized. there would be no follow poing so the part will get a bit of strength.
・00:46:685 (3) - same here
・00:57:656 (6,1) - im pretty sure nc should be swapped.
・00:57:656 (6,1,2,3,4) - this looks pretty messy to be honest. you have free right side of greedfield so i would recommend to rework on (1,2,3,4,5...) pattern, make it appear from the right side. i think it will be more interesting and moving your hand not only in the same place is a good thing as well
・01:01:942 (1,2) - these sliders make no sence ): there is nothing like 1/4 in music here and wel.. they were pretty awkward to hold honestly. instead, you have sounds for stream here, from 01:01:599 - to 01:01:942 - . you could make a stream here, map 1/2 following vocals and add a note for triplet right here 01:02:885 -
・01:03:999 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hm, i think spacing for this stream could be bigger. the overall spacing is your diff is pretty big, especially during kiai time. so making it ~0.7 would be better
・01:05:885 (1,2,3) - bigger spacing should take place here 01:05:885 (1,2) - since this place has kinda stronger sounds.
・01:07:770 (3,4) - same here, bigger one suits this place much more, that this 01:08:113 (5,1) -
・01:09:656 (4,5,6) - placing (4) a bit closer would make a better feeling here imo, since now you will have (6) placed much further than (5), so it would be more emphasized

SPOILER

good luck!

Little

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Little 2015-06-01T04:30:35+00:00

rip ;_;

Neta

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Neta 2015-06-12T07:34:31+00:00

Aka wrote:
easy

・00:04:170 (1,1) - 00:48:056 (1,1) - not enough recovery time after spinner. you need at least one measure between these. (for ex. 00:05:713 - to 00:07:085 - ) i think it's enough though
・00:13:942 (1) - why nc? the previous phrase is still here, no need to put a nc on every downbeat
・00:19:428 (1) - same here. 00:18:399 (2,3,1,2) - this is the whole phrase. i dont think its really neccessary to make such short combos, 4 is pretty much enough too
・well, i think the whole ncing is unreasonably short.. its up to you but i'd remove these 00:22:170 (1) - , 00:30:399 (1) - 00:33:142 (1) - 00:46:685 (1) - 00:43:770 (1) - 00:58:170 (1) - 01:01:256 (1) - 01:06:056 (1) - 01:09:142 (1) - 01:11:542 (1) - 01:14:113 (1) - 01:20:113 (1) - 01:22:856 (1) - 01:25:770 (1) - ncs.
・00:42:056 (2,1) - this is not recommended for the easy difficulty, the bpm is quite high so please, avoid those 1/2 transitions how to fix this beat
・01:01:942 (1,2) - the place where (1) ends messes this part up, you have a sound 01:03:142 - here, not on the 01:03:313 (2) - downbeat, its out beats. the rhythm pattern should be covered with red ticks, like this:
SPOILER

fixed all about NC stuff

saki

・00:09:142 (1,2,3,1) - these objects doesnt play in a comfortable way and looks kinda random, i mean i (1) slider. try to make all patterns connected. like, i would suggest something like this
SPOILER
I'd gonna take more suggestions on these jump patterns
・00:10:856 (3,1) - spacing is pretty huge there and mmm as for me, it doesnt really flow natural. try to ctrl-g slider and move it a bit closer to make movements more smooth
SPOILER
^
・00:36:228 (4) - unnecessary speed change and a pretty awkward place to make a slider like that, tbh. try to map this part instead, there are nice beats to follow with notes and sliders well this patterns is just what i felt like when i map this, i will change if there's more people ask me to change but i don't think it's that bad with playing
・00:38:456 (4) - again a sudden speed change. it doesnt play well, really. you just make 1 very slow slider for one long sound in a short part, for a pretty much insane diff with big jumps and spacing, so sudden 0.50x speed chagnes for only one short sound is not a good idea. again, it doesnt play well т_т try to map such parts by following beats (00:38:885 - like here is a pretty noticeable beat, where you could make a triplet) or remove the speed
change/make it at least 0.75x same on this
・00:44:799 (1) - i would remove nc from here and place it there 00:45:313 (4) - to make this slider more emphasized. there would be no follow poing so the part will get a bit of strength. Fixed
・00:46:685 (3) - same here ^
・00:57:656 (6,1) - im pretty sure nc should be swapped. ^
・00:57:656 (6,1,2,3,4) - this looks pretty messy to be honest. you have free right side of greedfield so i would recommend to rework on (1,2,3,4,5...) pattern, make it appear from the right side. i think it will be more interesting and moving your hand not only in the same place is a good thing as well Fixed pattern
・01:01:942 (1,2) - these sliders make no sence ): there is nothing like 1/4 in music here and wel.. they were pretty awkward to hold honestly. instead, you have sounds for stream here, from 01:01:599 - to 01:01:942 - . you could make a stream here, map 1/2 following vocals and add a note for triplet right here 01:02:885 - i'll think more about this i need to think some patterns to change
・01:03:999 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hm, i think spacing for this stream could be bigger. the overall spacing is your diff is pretty big, especially during kiai time. so making it ~0.7 would be better i think it's fine
・01:05:885 (1,2,3) - bigger spacing should take place here 01:05:885 (1,2) - since this place has kinda stronger sounds. Fixed
・01:07:770 (3,4) - same here, bigger one suits this place much more, that this 01:08:113 (5,1) - hmm i think i gave enough space change on this part
・01:09:656 (4,5,6) - placing (4) a bit closer would make a better feeling here imo, since now you will have (6) placed much further than (5), so it would be more emphasized
SPOILER
need more opinions on this

good luck!

thx for mod

Neta

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Neta 2017-11-30T18:07:08+00:00

revived~

Little

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Little 2017-12-01T15:50:49+00:00

Yeah~ <3

w can you revert my diff name back to Cloud's Normal?

Neta

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Neta 2017-12-01T16:22:37+00:00

Little wrote:
Yeah~ <3

w can you revert my diff name back to Cloud's Normal?

OK

i'll fix it tommorow

Enon

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Enon 2017-12-02T16:11:58+00:00

[Saki]

00:14:628 (1,2,3) - 플레이 중에도 보일 정도인 오버랩은 보기 좋지 않다고 봐요. 겹치지 않게 좀 띄워보는 건 어떨까요.
00:16:685 (6) - 음악에서 대놓고 신나는 이 부분에서는 앞부분과 모양을 맞추는 것도 괜찮지만, 점프를 넣어봐도 좋을 것 같다고 생각해요.
00:19:342 - 여긴 00:19:085 - 4번 서클에서 들리는 "kuㅡ" 하는 보컬 소리가 이어지는 거라서 연타를 넣을 이유는 없는 것 같아요. 4번 서클을 00:19:342 - 까지
이어지는 3/4 슬라이더로 바꾸면 어떨까요.
00:22:770 - ^ 여기도 연타를 넣을만한 소리는 없는 것 같지만 그렇게 이상하게 들리지는 않아서 잘 모르겠네요.
00:23:370 - 00:23:456 - 드럼 소리가 들립니다. 슬라이더로 묻어버리는 것보다는 드럼 소리 살려서 연타로 만들어는 것도 괜찮을 것 같아요. >> 추천하는 박자 <<
00:28:856 - 00:28:942 - ^ 여기도 드럼 소리가 있는데 매핑해보면 어떨까요
00:38:885 - 00:38:970 - ^
00:39:828 - 00:39:913 - ^
00:29:713 (3,4,5,6) - 구맵스럽다는 느낌을 받은 패턴. 00:30:056 - 이 부분에 강한 음이 있는데 이 부분을 기점으로 점프를 만들어보면 어떨까요? 00:30:228 그리고 이 부분은 00:19:342 - 이 부분에서 설명한 거랑 똑같은 건데 서클을 두는 것보다는 위에서 설명했던 것처럼 3/4 슬라 넣는 게 좋아보여요.
00:37:770 - 이 부분은 비우는 게 맞지 않을까요?
00:41:370 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 음악이랑 동떨어진다고 생각되는 패턴이네요. 이유는 인게임에서 설명드렸습니다.
00:57:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ 비슷한 이유인데요. 00:58:170 - 00:58:856 - 여기 잘 들어보시면 강한 드럼 소리가 들립니다. 이 강한 부분보다 00:58:513 (4,5) - 00:59:028 (7) - 이런 부분이 더 점프가 큰 건 좀 이해가 되지 않습니다.
01:00:913 (3,4) - ^ 강한 음이 들리는 3번이 2번이랑 너무 달라붙어 있습니다. 차라리 3, 4를 ctrl+g 했다면 적절했을 것 같네요.
01:01:856 - 01:02:885 - 드럼 소리가 있는데 살려볼 수 있습니다.

Neta

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Neta 2017-12-02T17:27:56+00:00

Enon wrote:
[Saki]
00:14:628 (1,2,3) - 플레이 중에도 보일 정도인 오버랩은 보기 좋지 않다고 봐요. 겹치지 않게 좀 띄워보는 건 어떨까요. FIXED
00:16:685 (6) - 음악에서 대놓고 신나는 이 부분에서는 앞부분과 모양을 맞추는 것도 괜찮지만, 점프를 넣어봐도 좋을 것 같다고 생각해요. 패턴이 생각이 안나서 적당히 점프로 고쳐봤는데 괜찮은거같아요!
00:19:342 - 여긴 00:19:085 - 4번 서클에서 들리는 "kuㅡ" 하는 보컬 소리가 이어지는 거라서 연타를 넣을 이유는 없는 것 같아요. 4번 서클을 00:19:342 - 까지
이어지는 3/4 슬라이더로 바꾸면 어떨까요. 슬라이더 배치가 애매해서 연타를 없애는 방식으로 바꿧습니다
00:22:770 - ^ 여기도 연타를 넣을만한 소리는 없는 것 같지만 그렇게 이상하게 들리지는 않아서 잘 모르겠네요. 예전에 3연타가 좋을거
같다고 해서 바꾼 부분이어서 의견을 조금만 더 들어보는걸로 할게용
00:23:370 - 00:23:456 - 드럼 소리가 들립니다. 슬라이더로 묻어버리는 것보다는 드럼 소리 살려서 연타로 만들어는 것도 괜찮을 것 같아요. >> 추천하는 박자 <<
00:28:856 - 00:28:942 - ^ 여기도 드럼 소리가 있는데 매핑해보면 어떨까요 여긴 박자 집어넣으니까 조금 어색한 감이 있어서 패스할게요 ㅠ
00:38:885 - 00:38:970 - ^ FIXED
00:39:828 - 00:39:913 - ^ FIXED
00:29:713 (3,4,5,6) - 구맵스럽다는 느낌을 받은 패턴. 00:30:056 - 이 부분에 강한 음이 있는데 이 부분을 기점으로 점프를 만들어보면 어떨까요? 00:30:228 그리고 이 부분은 00:19:342 - 이 부분에서 설명한 거랑 똑같은 건데 서클을 두는 것보다는 위에서 설명했던 것처럼 3/4 슬라 넣는 게 좋아보여요. FIXED
00:37:770 - 이 부분은 비우는 게 맞지 않을까요? 저는 넣는게 자연스러운거같아요
00:41:370 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 음악이랑 동떨어진다고 생각되는 패턴이네요. 이유는 인게임에서 설명드렸습니다. FIXED
00:57:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ 비슷한 이유인데요. 00:58:170 - 00:58:856 - 여기 잘 들어보시면 강한 드럼 소리가 들립니다. 이 강한 부분보다 00:58:513 (4,5) - 00:59:028 (7) - 이런 부분이 더 점프가 큰 건 좀 이해가 되지 않습니다. FIXED
01:00:913 (3,4) - ^ 강한 음이 들리는 3번이 2번이랑 너무 달라붙어 있습니다. 차라리 3, 4를 ctrl+g 했다면 적절했을 것 같네요. FIXED
01:01:856 - 01:02:885 - 드럼 소리가 있는데 살려볼 수 있습니다.FIXED

Thank you Enon~

josh1024

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josh1024 2017-12-03T07:28:29+00:00

m4m plz

Box.

Easy

00:16:685 (2,1) overlap
00:23:028 and 00:33:999 note here? just a suggstion
00:43:085 (1,2) DS
00:48:056 (1) Spinner Recovery Time plz
00:53:370 (1) don't recommend starting slider on non whitetick
00:55:599 prbbly don't miss this vocal
01:13:770 note? make redtick 2-beat gaps easier to read

Normal

00:23:370 (1) and 00:34:342 (6,1) why the difference
00:44:970 (1) suggest making this a 1-reverse slider and start it 00:44:799
01:11:542 (3,4,5) it's ur choice but it's kinda awkward to suddenly follow guitar here

Hard

00:18:913 (3,4) minor alignment stuff

Insane
nope. nice.

Saki

00:00:228 - 00:03:999 kinda just wandering in the middle? lack a bit of emphasis
00:13:599 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ^ don't get what ur trying to do
00:19:428 (2,3,4) vocal on different places, mapped the same, oversimplified?
00:29:370 (2,3,4,5,6,1) switching rotation on 5? better if done on 1 imo
01:07:085 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) lack emphasis
01:21:656 (4) make this a slider?

Neta

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Neta 2017-12-03T11:40:05+00:00

josh1024 wrote:
m4m plz
Box.
Easy
00:16:685 (2,1) overlap FIXED
00:23:028 and 00:33:999 note here? just a suggstion no notes look better for me
00:43:085 (1,2) DS FIXED
00:48:056 (1) Spinner Recovery Time plz FIXED
00:53:370 (1) don't recommend starting slider on non whitetick it's on white stack?
00:55:599 prbbly don't miss this vocal FIXED
01:13:770 note? make redtick 2-beat gaps easier to read FIXED

Saki
00:00:228 - 00:03:999 kinda just wandering in the middle? lack a bit of emphasis still looks fine for me
00:13:599 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ^ don't get what ur trying to do i need addition explanation on this xd
00:19:428 (2,3,4) vocal on different places, mapped the same, oversimplified? need more option on this
00:29:370 (2,3,4,5,6,1) switching rotation on 5? better if done on 1 imo current one looks better for me
01:07:085 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) lack emphasis same with first one
01:21:656 (4) make this a slider? FIXED

Thx for mod!

Arf

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Arf 2017-12-07T20:53:50+00:00

Heyo, M4M from your queue

Does she say "Pakistan" at 01:02:456 - ? O_o

Easy
00:04:170 (1,1) - As others have mentioned, the spinner recovery time here is quite questionable, the note after the spinner appears on the playfield before the spinner is over, which you don't want in an Easy difficulty. I asked a BN (-Mo-) and they recommended 1 measure (4 white ticks) of gap between the spinner's end and the next note.

00:10:513 (3,4) - Throughout the rest of this section's patterns, you have smooth flow between notes, such as 00:07:770 (2,3,4,5) - and 00:09:142 (5,1,2) - but here it switches to a sharper flow? I see the blanket and all, but consider just placing 4 and 5 after the slidertail of "3" and using the sharper flow to emphasize the stream sound on 00:11:885 (6) - instead.

00:16:685 (2,3) - Hmm given the blankets before, any reason this isn't one? Looks a but out of place in my opinion.

00:22:170 (4,1) - Maybe a note between these? Feels a bit empty at the moment

00:34:342 (1,4) - These long sliders skip a lot of sounds, are you sure you want to use this rhythm here? The pattern used at 00:23:370 (1,2) - sounds better to me.

Cloud/Little
00:07:085 (1,2) - Hmm, isn't it a bit confusing to have the slidertail of "2" be right in front of the slidertail of "1"? If you're intent on using the reverse flow type thing here, maybe position 2 somewhere else, I'd personally Ctrl+G it but that doesn't seem to be your intention. Same at 00:26:970 (3,4) -

00:31:770 (1,2) - Consider mapping the note between these somehow

00:35:713 (4,1) - Highly recommend not stacking these. The gap between the notes on the timeline is not the same as the previous stack at 00:16:685 (1,2) - and the gap is not 1/1, 2/1, or an easily readable rhythm gap. It might be fine on multiple playthroughs with the music and all, but for this level of difficulty I'm not sure how appropriate it is. Up to you.

01:08:456 (3,1) - While the distance snap is technically accurate, because of how people tend to play this sort of pattern, with the note being behind the sliderhead, I feel that this visual spacing could be somewhat confusing, especially as (again) the rhythm gap is not 1/1 here. Consider finding a way to place the 1/2/3 combo after the slidertail instead of on the opposite side of it.

01:11:542 (3,4,5) - This sort of rhythm seems more suitable for a higher difficulty to me, it's not too dense or anything, but the guitar it's following is somewhat in the background while I feel that most players of this level would be more focused on the foreground music. The stopgap rhythm is also somewhat of a halting influence, interrupting the constant beat that is the main markup of the chorus, and it feels a bit strange (to me) to play an interrupting rhythm of this nature in this part of the song. dunno where all that pretentious wording came from but it's hard to explain what i mean

Momoka/No Dap
You are most likely a better mapper now so maybe you want to revisit some things. In case of no, I'll mod it as is.

00:08:285 (3) - There are sounds in the middle of this slider that it feels a bit weird to not play, consider changing up the rhythm here. I hear the held note too, but unlike 00:09:656 (3) - the guitar on the big white tick here is actually pretty prominent to my ears

00:19:428 (1) - Isn't this a bit too close to the previous note? The overlap looks good and all, but the sound on 1 is very prominent and a bit strange to emphasize it with lower spacing rather than higher

00:21:828 (4) - IMO this flows a bit more comfortably into the next slider if it's Ctrl+H'd, Ctrl+J'd, and Ctrl+G'd

00:22:170 (1,2) - Well interesting aesthetic but personally I don't find it very visually appealing. Could do something different here

00:23:885 (4) - Maybe position this a bit lower, like so. Maybe makes it look a bit better

00:26:113 (1) - Could easily avoid this overlap here, looks a bit unsightly. unlike the one at 00:24:399 (6,1) -

00:27:656 (5) - Consider making two circles instead? Sounds here are prominent enough for that to be a more effective rhythm I believe

(minor) 00:29:370 (1) - Not quite symmetrical

00:31:428 (3,1) - Consider something more like this here. It flows a bit more comfortably in my opinion

00:33:142 (1) - It's your aesthetic and all, but wouldn't a simple curved slider look so much better here? :c same at 01:23:885 (1,2) -

00:38:456 (1,2) - There's a 1/4 drum note in between these you could map, it's prominent enough, especially since 00:39:485 (4,5,6) - is mapped

00:44:799 (3,4) - As above, a somewhat prominent 1/4 note you could map

00:51:656 (2) - Consider making this three circles instead, or perhaps a 1/2 repeat slider. Sounds better rhythmically in my opinion

HabiHolic
Entertaining difficulty, clean map. Good stuff!

00:19:085 (3,4) - Consider Ctrl+G, I believe the slider "1" at 00:19:428 (1) - should have the biggest jump to it since the sound there is so much more prominent, unless this is an anti-jump on purpose. If it is, then I admit I do not like it very much

00:31:256 (6) - Consider circles instead, last time this rhythm appeared in the song at 00:20:456 (3,4) - there were jumps so the player would expect some here. I also think they fit to the vocals more

01:02:456 (6,7) - I think there is a 1/4 drum sound between these two notes, see what you hear.

01:16:685 (9) - Again, consider circles here instead of a slider, fits better to the vocals I believe

Neta
This difficulty is um.... well I have to admit it wasn't my favorite. The amalgamation of massive jumps, the 3/4 slider things, combined with general feel while playing, didn't leave me with a favorable impression. The map felt a bit like it was trying too hard to be interesting, while the song is a bit more on the generic side. However I could see this being fun for people who like less conventional styling, so I will try to keep your style in mind while attempting to provide some suggestions.

00:08:285 (1) - Sounds better as two circles in my opinion, particularly as the current slider ends on a very prominent beat that would sound better if it was clickable. The pattern of 00:07:770 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - could work as a set of two triangles, with a circle at 00:08:285 - separating the two patterns. It would fit musically and be enjoyable to play I believe.

00:15:142 (4,1) - Prominent 1/4 triple here that should be mapped as such, in my opinion.

00:15:485 (2) - If you did the above^ then this could be turned into two circles as well, for a more consistent rhythm structure. If you didn't change the notes at 00:15:142 (4,1) - it to a triple for whatever reason, then leaving this as a slider for a break from jumps might be a better idea.

00:19:770 (3,4) - Red to white tick sliders are not my favorite thing I admit but the rhythm in the song here is such that it might fit. Consider making the pattern of 00:19:256 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - something closer to this. I think it sounds better rhythmically and fits better to both the guitar and the vocals

00:24:399 (6,1) - The note between these has a pretty prominent drum, consider mapping it. Same at 00:25:770 (4,1) -

00:30:056 (5,6) - If Ctrl+G these two, I think it flows more comfortably from "4" and also creates a nice jump to the next slider "1" which fits the rhythm prominence here. The current linear 5->6->1 is a bit punishing after such a large jump from 4 in my opinion.

00:30:913 (2,3,4,5,6) - Sounds in song is pretty much same as 00:20:113 (4,5,6) - yet the rhythm is quite different, consider making them consistent.

00:33:656 (2,1) - These are a bit too close to each other, consider moving the pattern starting at "1" a bit to the right

00:35:370 (5) - There is a 1/4 triple in the song starting here, consider mapping it as it is the highest diff

00:38:456 (4) - Sounds better if this is 1/2 slider and there is a circle at 00:38:885 - in my opinion

00:44:799 (4,5) - There is a 1/4 drum sound between these you could map if you wanted

00:52:170 (1,2) - This is difficult to read as 1/4, consider moving it closer to 1, maybe even overlapping it. Unlike 00:53:713 (1,2) - the player will not be expecting it and the pattern arrangement does not really help to read it as 1/4 in my opinion.

That's it for me! Always happy to see old sets revived and people giving it another try. Hope I helped a bit, even if the top diff isn't to my taste, I wish you luck getting this ranked. All the best.

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Neta 2017-12-08T12:52:08+00:00

Arf wrote:
Heyo, M4M from your queue

Does she say "Pakistan" at 01:02:456 - ? O_o Fighting star i think XD

Easy
Easy
00:04:170 (1,1) - As others have mentioned, the spinner recovery time here is quite questionable, the note after the spinner appears on the playfield before the spinner is over, which you don't want in an Easy difficulty. I asked a BN (-Mo-) and they recommended 1 measure (4 white ticks) of gap between the spinner's end and the next note. oh i thought i fixed this, thx for noticing

00:10:513 (3,4) - Throughout the rest of this section's patterns, you have smooth flow between notes, such as 00:07:770 (2,3,4,5) - and 00:09:142 (5,1,2) - but here it switches to a sharper flow? I see the blanket and all, but consider just placing 4 and 5 after the slidertail of "3" and using the sharper flow to emphasize the stream sound on 00:11:885 (6) - instead. agree with flows but still looks fine for me

00:16:685 (2,3) - Hmm given the blankets before, any reason this isn't one? Looks a but out of place in my opinion. tried blanket before but i didn't like the shape of these notes xd

00:22:170 (4,1) - Maybe a note between these? Feels a bit empty at the moment FIXED

00:34:342 (1,4) - These long sliders skip a lot of sounds, are you sure you want to use this rhythm here? The pattern used at 00:23:370 (1,2) - sounds better to me. FIXED

Saki
Neta
This difficulty is um.... well I have to admit it wasn't my favorite. The amalgamation of massive jumps, the 3/4 slider things, combined with general feel while playing, didn't leave me with a favorable impression. The map felt a bit like it was trying too hard to be interesting, while the song is a bit more on the generic side. However I could see this being fun for people who like less conventional styling, so I will try to keep your style in mind while attempting to provide some suggestions.

00:08:285 (1) - Sounds better as two circles in my opinion, particularly as the current slider ends on a very prominent beat that would sound better if it was clickable. The pattern of 00:07:770 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - could work as a set of two triangles, with a circle at 00:08:285 - separating the two patterns. It would fit musically and be enjoyable to play I believe. i think slider fits more on this

00:15:142 (4,1) - Prominent 1/4 triple here that should be mapped as such, in my opinion. FIXED

00:15:485 (2) - If you did the above^ then this could be turned into two circles as well, for a more consistent rhythm structure. If you didn't change the notes at 00:15:142 (4,1) - it to a triple for whatever reason, then leaving this as a slider for a break from jumps might be a better idea. FIXED

00:19:770 (3,4) - Red to white tick sliders are not my favorite thing I admit but the rhythm in the song here is such that it might fit. Consider making the pattern of 00:19:256 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - something closer to this. I think it sounds better rhythmically and fits better to both the guitar and the vocals FIXED

00:24:399 (6,1) - The note between these has a pretty prominent drum, consider mapping it. Same at 00:25:770 (4,1) - I need more opinion, i hear drum but still current one sounds fine too for me

00:30:056 (5,6) - If Ctrl+G these two, I think it flows more comfortably from "4" and also creates a nice jump to the next slider "1" which fits the rhythm prominence here. The current linear 5->6->1 is a bit punishing after such a large jump from 4 in my opinion. FIXED

00:30:913 (2,3,4,5,6) - Sounds in song is pretty much same as 00:20:113 (4,5,6) - yet the rhythm is quite different, consider making them consistent. Fixed 00:19:428 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - these

00:33:656 (2,1) - These are a bit too close to each other, consider moving the pattern starting at "1" a bit to the right FIXED

00:35:370 (5) - There is a 1/4 triple in the song starting here, consider mapping it as it is the highest diff sounds too messy for me if i make that triple

00:38:456 (4) - Sounds better if this is 1/2 slider and there is a circle at 00:38:885 - in my opinion i wanna keep this cause there is double drum sounds starting from 00:38:885 -

00:44:799 (4,5) - There is a 1/4 drum sound between these you could map if you wanted FIXED

00:52:170 (1,2) - This is difficult to read as 1/4, consider moving it closer to 1, maybe even overlapping it. Unlike 00:53:713 (1,2) - the player will not be expecting it and the pattern arrangement does not really help to read it as 1/4 in my opinion. FIXED

That's it for me! Always happy to see old sets revived and people giving it another try. Hope I helped a bit, even if the top diff isn't to my taste, I wish you luck getting this ranked. All the best.

Thx for mod!

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Neta 2017-12-11T13:05:12+00:00

waiting for gd fix

Little

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Joined November 2012

Little 2017-12-12T01:40:16+00:00

josh1024 wrote:
Normal
00:23:370 (1) and 00:34:342 (6,1) why the difference It just feels nice to emphasize the vocal at first time.
00:44:970 (1) suggest making this a 1-reverse slider and start it 00:44:799 No.
01:11:542 (3,4,5) it's ur choice but it's kinda awkward to suddenly follow guitar here Seems good to me.

Arf wrote:
Cloud/Little
00:07:085 (1,2) - Hmm, isn't it a bit confusing to have the slidertail of "2" be right in front of the slidertail of "1"? If you're intent on using the reverse flow type thing here, maybe position 2 somewhere else, I'd personally Ctrl+G it but that doesn't seem to be your intention. Same at 00:26:970 (3,4) - Changed (1) to a curved slider to direct the flow and make it more obvious. Since this idea is used a lot in the map,
it should be fine the next few times when they start to understand it.

00:31:770 (1,2) - Consider mapping the note between these somehow No.

00:35:713 (4,1) - Highly recommend not stacking these. The gap between the notes on the timeline is not the same as the previous stack at 00:16:685 (1,2) - and the gap is not 1/1, 2/1, or an easily readable rhythm gap. It might be fine on multiple playthroughs with the music and all, but for this level of difficulty I'm not sure how appropriate it is. Up to you. Seems fine to me. Prefer to keep it for the emphasis.

01:08:456 (3,1) - While the distance snap is technically accurate, because of how people tend to play this sort of pattern, with the note being behind the sliderhead, I feel that this visual spacing could be somewhat confusing, especially as (again) the rhythm gap is not 1/1 here. Consider finding a way to place the 1/2/3 combo after the slidertail instead of on the opposite side of it. Player should be able to read this fine.

01:11:542 (3,4,5) - This sort of rhythm seems more suitable for a higher difficulty to me, it's not too dense or anything, but the guitar it's following is somewhat in the background while I feel that most players of this level would be more focused on the foreground music. The stopgap rhythm is also somewhat of a halting influence, interrupting the constant beat that is the main markup of the chorus, and it feels a bit strange (to me) to play an interrupting rhythm of this nature in this part of the song. dunno where all that pretentious wording came from but it's hard to explain what i mean I get what you mean, but I want to show this interesting rhythm in the song so the player can appreciate it too.

Thanks.
@Neta, also add CloudSplash16 in tags.

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Ozato Fumika

Beatmap Nominator

3,379 posts

Joined July 2013

Ozato Fumika 2017-12-13T00:09:31+00:00

오스를 접었기도 하고... 옛날 맵이라 좀 소름 돋기도 하고...

지금은 기말 기간인지라 기말 끝나고 시간 되면 고칠게요.

만약 급하시다면 언제든지 메세지 다시 보내주세요.

Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2017-12-13T00:56:52+00:00

the real no dap !

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Neta 2017-12-13T03:07:33+00:00

Updated! also added tag

Momoka wrote:
오스를 접었기도 하고... 옛날 맵이라 좀 소름 돋기도 하고...

지금은 기말 기간인지라 기말 끝나고 시간 되면 고칠게요.

만약 급하시다면 언제든지 메세지 다시 보내주세요.

넵 불편하시다면 언제든지 말씀해주세요 이제와서 살린거 자체가 죄송하네요 ㅠ

Ozato Fumika

Beatmap Nominator

3,379 posts

Joined July 2013

Ozato Fumika 2017-12-15T01:03:21+00:00

Arf wrote:
Momoka/No Dap
You are most likely a better mapper now so maybe you want to revisit some things. In case of no, I'll mod it as is.

If I didn't comment, that means I remapped that part before I looked at your mod. So, it's N/A

00:08:285 (3) - There are sounds in the middle of this slider that it feels a bit weird to not play, consider changing up the rhythm here. I hear the held note too, but unlike 00:09:656 (3) - the guitar on the big white tick here is actually pretty prominent to my ears
I like the way it is

00:19:428 (1) - Isn't this a bit too close to the previous note? The overlap looks good and all, but the sound on 1 is very prominent and a bit strange to emphasize it with lower spacing rather than higher

00:21:828 (4) - IMO this flows a bit more comfortably into the next slider if it's Ctrl+H'd, Ctrl+J'd, and Ctrl+G'd
I like the way it is

00:22:170 (1,2) - Well interesting aesthetic but personally I don't find it very visually appealing. Could do something different here
I like the way it is

00:23:885 (4) - Maybe position this a bit lower, like so. Maybe makes it look a bit better

00:26:113 (1) - Could easily avoid this overlap here, looks a bit unsightly. unlike the one at 00:24:399 (6,1) -
yes

00:27:656 (5) - Consider making two circles instead? Sounds here are prominent enough for that to be a more effective rhythm I believe

(minor) 00:29:370 (1) - Not quite symmetrical

00:31:428 (3,1) - Consider something more like this here. It flows a bit more comfortably in my opinion
It's just one of those stupid things I like to do. Nothing I can do about it...

00:33:142 (1) - It's your aesthetic and all, but wouldn't a simple curved slider look so much better here? :c same at 01:23:885 (1,2) -
I like the way it is

00:38:456 (1,2) - There's a 1/4 drum note in between these you could map, it's prominent enough, especially since 00:39:485 (4,5,6) - is mapped
I didn't map this so that I can map 00:39:485 (4,5,6) - and not have too much difficulty pressure in one place

00:44:799 (3,4) - As above, a somewhat prominent 1/4 note you could map
I don't think I want to map this beat

00:51:656 (2) - Consider making this three circles instead, or perhaps a 1/2 repeat slider. Sounds better rhythmically in my opinion
I don't think I want to do that after a spinner.

Thanks for modding

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HabiHolic

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Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2017-12-16T14:30:11+00:00

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164,160,83199,6,0,L|300:184,1,127.5,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,188,83542,1,8,0:0:0:0:
364,199,83628,1,2,0:0:0:0:
405,190,83713,1,2,0:0:0:0:
435,161,83799,1,2,0:0:0:0:
447,121,83885,6,0,L|436:28,1,68,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,16,84228,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,152,84399,6,0,L|300:292,1,136,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,356,84913,1,8,0:0:0:0:
204,376,85085,6,0,L|196:236,1,136,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
132,172,85599,1,8,0:0:0:0:
220,120,85770,6,0,P|288:108|348:148,1,136,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,232,86285,1,8,0:0:0:0:
376,232,86456,1,4,0:0:0:0:
140,64,86970,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,87056,12,0,89028,0:0:0:0:

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Neta 2017-12-16T16:57:01+00:00

Updated!

Kagetsu

796 posts

Joined March 2015

Kagetsu 2017-12-21T09:49:23+00:00

[Saki]

generally speaking, i think the diff focuses too much on the center of the screen, you barely use corners to place your objects which makes the diff feel poor in terms of design
00:01:599 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this could be an example of what i said, i think you can use different locations for your patterns
00:06:399 (1,2,3,4) - symmetry looks kinda forced as 1/4 distance is excessive whereas 1/1 distance is too low, it feels like the pattern was made considering visuals only
00:07:770 - to 00:10:856 - this is kinda my personal opinion, i just don't really like this section because i feel there's no correlation between objects,you should aim to arrange your objects in a more cohesive way
00:15:656 (5,6) - i think the distance could be increased in order to emphasize this beat 00:15:828 -
00:16:256 - kinda sad that you're ignoring the 1/4 here
00:17:370 - same thing happens here, rhythm feels way too simple for what the song is providing, you could definitely try something else
00:18:742 (2,3,4,1) - i don't think these jumps are justified, even if the rhythm is acceptable, distance feels excessive
00:19:256 (1,2) - i think it would be better if you unstack these two, given that 00:19:428 - is a strong beat
00:21:313 (2,3,4,5,6) - as i said before, distance could be reduced
00:22:685 (3,4,5) - there's no 1/4 here and i don't think it works for emphasis, it kinda downplays 00:23:370 (1,2,3) - importance
00:24:056 (5,6,1) - 00:25:428 (3,4,1) - i think these rhythms are too simple for this type of diff, you could try harder rhythms in order to emphasize the cymbals (habi's diff uses better rhythms, for example)
00:26:113 (1,2,3,4,5) - although it looks cool, the rhythm feels vague as it doesn't seem to be following anything in particular, 00:26:285 (2) - could be removed, for example
00:27:828 (4,1,1,2) - rhythm feels too simple again, you're ignoring a lot of beats here, even 1/4
00:29:885 (4,5) - i don't think it warrants a full screen jump, distance could be toned down, honestly
00:35:028 (4,5,1) - well i've mentioned this a few times already lol so i guess you get the idea
00:37:085 (1,2,3) - this feels way too dense in terms of rhythm, something like this would be better in my opinion
00:38:456 (4) - the sv change feels anticlimactic lol using the usuall sv would work better
00:44:285 (2,3) - i think this should be a jump, the stack doesn't really represent the music intensity
00:44:799 (4,5,6) - this kinda caught me by surprise as it looks very different to other triplets in terms of design
00:48:142 (1) - the spinner is ignoring a lot of beats ): it isn't suitable for this type of diff in my opinion
00:58:170 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - it would be cool if you could focus on just one layer of the song, the rhythms are unclear in terms of what they're following, also i find the distance excessive and you're missing 1/4 here 00:59:113 -
01:00:570 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - similar, you should either follow drums or vocals, otherwise it's confusing
01:03:999 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - actually the stream should start from here 01:03:828 -
01:13:428 (6,1) - since you're following vocals, something like this would work better, it would also emphasize the snares on 01:13:770 -
01:21:056 - the 1/4 is really prominent so why not map it?
01:22:513 (7,1,2) - 01:23:885 (1,1,1,1) - you could definitely try something denser, rhythm is way too simple

you need to work on your rhythms and spacing choices a lot, they feel out of place for this type of diff.
the other diffs are fine, though

good luck (:

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Neta 2017-12-21T12:09:01+00:00

just decided to remap my diff

too many issues XD

Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2017-12-21T15:24:45+00:00

oops, i broke the unicode parts of metadata on my diff

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Neta 2017-12-22T09:59:48+00:00

Little wrote:
oops, i broke the unicode parts of metadata on my diff

i'll will fix it on next update

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Neta 2018-01-04T03:15:21+00:00

Done

Jayel

846 posts

Joined August 2010

Jayel 2018-01-10T05:06:49+00:00

외국인 분께서 제공해주신 게스트 난이도가 있길래 일단 모딩은 전부 영어로 썼습니다.
이미 랭크 된 맵이 두 개나 있으시길래 제가 도움 드릴게 있을까 싶지만.. 그래도 한 번 해볼게요.

Hello, M4M here.
All suggestions.

[General]
The Kiai times in each diff are different. Try making them consistent.
The suggested Kiai time: 00:53:713 ~ 01:15:656 .
It looks better if you finish the last spinner at 01:28:342.

[Easy]
01:15:656 ~ 01:23:885 - The Kiai doesn't seem to be necessary here.

[Momoka's Hard]
01:15:656 ~ 01:23:885 - The Kiai doesn't seem to be necessary here.
00:49:685 (1) - The spinner feels somewhat sudden for me. I suggest changing it into a slider or some other patterns.

[Habi's Insane]
01:15:656 ~ 01:23:885 - The Kiai doesn't seem to be necessary here.

[Saki]
01:15:656 ~ 01:23:885 - The Kiai doesn't seem to be necessary here.
00:04:170 (1) - Finish?
00:04:256 (1) - Suggesting ending the spinner at 00:06:228 .
00:27:999 - I think it would great if you put two notes at here and other at 00:28:085 since there are drum sounds in each spot.
00:48:056 (3) - Finish...?

I wonder why they popped the bubble.. Good luck!

Neta

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Topic Starter

Neta 2018-01-10T07:38:36+00:00

Jayel wrote:
외국인 분께서 제공해주신 게스트 난이도가 있길래 일단 모딩은 전부 영어로 썼습니다.
이미 랭크 된 맵이 두 개나 있으시길래 제가 도움 드릴게 있을까 싶지만.. 그래도 한 번 해볼게요.

Hello, M4M here.
All suggestions.

[General]
The Kiai times in each diff are different. Try making them consistent. 갯난이라 각자 다르다고 생각해요
The suggested Kiai time: 00:53:713 ~ 01:15:656 .
It looks better if you finish the last spinner at 01:28:342. 이대로가 저는 좋아보임

[Easy]
01:15:656 ~ 01:23:885 - The Kiai doesn't seem to be necessary here. 충분히 키아이 들어갈만큼 하이라이트부분이라고 생각함

[Saki]
01:15:656 ~ 01:23:885 - The Kiai doesn't seem to be necessary here. ^
00:04:170 (1) - Finish? FIXED
00:04:256 (1) - Suggesting ending the spinner at 00:06:228 . FIXED
00:27:999 - I think it would great if you put two notes at here and other at 00:28:085 since there are drum sounds in each spot. [이해를 못했어요 ㅠ]
00:48:056 (3) - Finish...? FIXED

I wonder why they popped the bubble.. Good luck!

Thx for mod!

Last edited by Neta 2018-01-10T13:02:58+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Len

2,812 posts

Joined June 2012

Len 2018-01-10T08:32:34+00:00

2018-01-10 17:02 Neta: 모딩 ㄱ?
2018-01-10 17:03 Len: irc모딩해드림
2018-01-10 17:04 Neta: 정말인가요?
2018-01-10 17:04 Neta: ㅋㅋ
2018-01-10 17:04 Neta: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1515407 Hashimoto Miyuki - Glossy:MMM]
2018-01-10 17:04 Neta: 막난
2018-01-10 17:04 Len: 00:01:599 (2,3,4,5) - 
2018-01-10 17:04 Len: 00:01:428 (1,2,3,4,5) - 
2018-01-10 17:04 Len: 전체적으로 큰 비트는 00:01:599 (2,3) - 두개임
2018-01-10 17:04 Len: 근데 00:01:770 (3,4) - 가 디스턴스가 넓고 00:01:599 (2,3) - 는 그거보다 적네요
2018-01-10 17:05 Neta: 그렇군요
2018-01-10 17:05 Len: 만약 저기를 살리고싶다면
2018-01-10 17:05 Len: 4번노트를 지우고
2018-01-10 17:05 Len: http://puu.sh/yYbhb/b4d8848d17.jpg 이런식으로 배치해서 
2018-01-10 17:05 Len: 00:02:113 (4) - 까지 강조하는건어떰
2018-01-10 17:06 Neta: 걍
2018-01-10 17:06 Len: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9972953
2018-01-10 17:06 Neta: 4번만 지우면 저렇게아님?
2018-01-10 17:06 Len: 4를지우면
2018-01-10 17:06 Neta: 기존에 있던
2018-01-10 17:06 Neta: 4를 지우면 저렇게잖음
2018-01-10 17:06 Neta: 아
2018-01-10 17:06 Len: ㄴㄴ
2018-01-10 17:06 Len: 2를 3위치에놓고
2018-01-10 17:06 Len: 3을 00:02:113 (5) - 머리에
2018-01-10 17:06 Len: 그리고 4삭제
2018-01-10 17:06 Len: 박자상 이게 맞는거같음
2018-01-10 17:06 Len: 시도해보삼
2018-01-10 17:07 Neta: ㅇㅇ 해봄
2018-01-10 17:07 Neta: 애초에 4번 비네
2018-01-10 17:07 Len: ㅇㅇ
2018-01-10 17:07 Len: 박자상 저게 맞는거같음
2018-01-10 17:07 Neta: ㅇㅋ
2018-01-10 17:07 Len: 00:06:656 (2) - 요기도 박자 빈느낌
2018-01-10 17:08 Len: 노트를 넣는다면 00:06:999 -  요기에 넣었어야함
2018-01-10 17:08 Len: 요기에 박자가 있어서
2018-01-10 17:09 Len: 00:06:399 (1) - 
2018-01-10 17:09 Neta: 그러네
2018-01-10 17:09 Neta: 이거
2018-01-10 17:09 Len: 완벽한 blanket을 하려면 x110 y245에 놓으십시오
2018-01-10 17:09 Len: 내
2018-01-10 17:09 Neta: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9972957
2018-01-10 17:09 Neta: 배치 이렇게 해도 상관없겠죠
2018-01-10 17:09 Len: 좀 꺼려지면
2018-01-10 17:09 Len: 00:06:742 - 에 노트넣고
2018-01-10 17:09 Len: 00:06:913 - 부터 3연타만들면됨
2018-01-10 17:10 Len: http://puu.sh/yYbob/2b873c5715.jpg
2018-01-10 17:10 Len: 이런식
2018-01-10 17:10 Neta: 근데
2018-01-10 17:10 Neta: 걍 ㄱㅊ은거같은데
2018-01-10 17:10 Len: 그럼 그냥 글케하삼
2018-01-10 17:10 Neta: ㅇㅋ
2018-01-10 17:10 Len: 00:15:142 (1,2,3) - 
2018-01-10 17:11 Len: 이거는 3에 stack 하는게 좋을거같은느낌
2018-01-10 17:11 Neta: dz
2018-01-10 17:11 Len: 저기서 브레이크 3연타를 넣으면 00:15:828 (4) - 강조하기가 편함
2018-01-10 17:11 Len: ㅇㅇ
2018-01-10 17:12 Len: 00:22:513 (2,3) - 
2018-01-10 17:12 Len: 이거두개 거리 멀다고 느껴지는데
2018-01-10 17:12 Len: 3을 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9972961 이런식으로 배치했다면 00:23:370 (1) - 하고도 잘 이어지지않을가싶음
2018-01-10 17:13 Len: 00:28:513 - 여기서부터 연타 주르르르륵 들리는데 저렇게 비워버리는건 조금 박자상 안어울리다고 생각
2018-01-10 17:14 Len: 백그라운드에서 드럼소리 둥둥둥두두두둥 하고있는데 슬라 쭈욱 가고있고 치는건 없어서
2018-01-10 17:14 Neta: 난 외 안들리지
2018-01-10 17:15 Len: 00:32:285 (2,3,4,5,6) - scale을 selection centre기준 1.1정도 늘려주는것도 ㄱㅊ다생각
2018-01-10 17:15 Len: playback rate 25%로 들으면
2018-01-10 17:15 Len: 뒤에 드럼소리들림
2018-01-10 17:15 Len: 00:28:942 - 요까지
2018-01-10 17:15 Neta: 걍 짧게하고 뒤에 연타붙임?
2018-01-10 17:16 Len: 모르겠음 여긴 ㅋㅋ
2018-01-10 17:16 Neta: 무엇 ㅋㅋ
2018-01-10 17:16 Neta: 일단 키핑해봄 크게 들리는건 아니라서
2018-01-10 17:16 Len: ㅇㅇ
2018-01-10 17:16 Neta: 저거
2018-01-10 17:16 Neta: 넓히는거 따로 기능있음?
2018-01-10 17:16 Len: http://puu.sh/yYby7/49a2499ac2.jpg 나 http://puu.sh/yYbyp/50471ffe49.jpg 이런식이 될거같음 만약 넣는다면
2018-01-10 17:17 Len: 컨 쉬프트 s
2018-01-10 17:17 Len: 오리진에서 selection 선택하고
2018-01-10 17:17 Len: 1.1
2018-01-10 17:17 Neta: 조아용
2018-01-10 17:17 Len: 00:38:456 (6) - 
2018-01-10 17:17 Len: 슬라 1/4만 줄이고
2018-01-10 17:18 Len: 00:38:885 - 요기에 노트넣어서
2018-01-10 17:18 Len: 놓트로 타탁 소리 만드는것도 ㄱㅊ을거같음
2018-01-10 17:18 Len: 00:39:485 (1,2,3) - 요기처럼
2018-01-10 17:19 Neta: 저거 드럼 2연타로 들리길래 일부로 저렇게 해놨는데
2018-01-10 17:19 Len: 그리고 전체적으로 힛사가 넘 빈거같음
2018-01-10 17:19 Len: 정박에만 박을려해서 그런거같은데
2018-01-10 17:19 Neta: 비었
2018-01-10 17:19 Neta: 을수도있음
2018-01-10 17:19 Neta: 왜냐하면 제가 리매핑전 난이도에서 카피해왔기때문임
2018-01-10 17:19 Len: 00:40:685 (1,1,1,1,1) - 
2018-01-10 17:19 Len: 클랩
2018-01-10 17:20 Len: 00:43:428 (3) - 
2018-01-10 17:20 Neta: ㅇㅋ
2018-01-10 17:20 Neta: 클랩임?
2018-01-10 17:20 Len: ㅇㅇ
2018-01-10 17:20 Neta: ㅇㅋ
2018-01-10 17:21 Len: 00:59:028 (1,2) - 
2018-01-10 17:21 Len: 이런거 클랩넣어주면
2018-01-10 17:21 Len: 00:59:199 (3) - 피니시소리 살아남
2018-01-10 17:21 Len: 01:01:770 (1,2,3) - 이거같이
2018-01-10 17:21 Neta: ㅇㅋ

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2018-01-10T16:01:37+00:00

Hello

Easy
00:12:570 (1,2) - this kind of flow is very weird to play because the 1/1 slider is pointing down. It is not really friendly to new players. I suggest you make the flow more playable.
00:33:142 (4) - put it up a bit for better flow
00:36:570 (5) - NC
00:37:085 - the slider should end here, considering you are following vocal throughout the map
01:01:942 (1,2,4) - the overlaps here are very messy tbh, you could fix by adjusting 01:03:142 (3) - position so 01:01:942 (1,4) - can be stacked.

lol CloudSplash
00:35:713 (4,1) - i think this is kinda confusing to play
00:38:456 (5) - reverse slider doesn't really follow music here, it is better to end slider 00:38:970 - and use a circle for current slider end
00:44:799 - add a circle?
00:53:370 (1) - why nc
01:08:456 (3,1) - the distance is confusing and flow is uncomfortable
Old style o.o

momoka
00:38:885 - better add a circle here
00:44:885 - same

habi
please use od7 and hp6 for gap considerations
00:27:485 (1,2) - you should swap nc because 00:27:828 - is emphasised
00:41:199 (5,1) - this is the most unreasonable part in this map imo after several testplays. The spacing suddenly becomes ridiculously big.
I think you can move 00:41:370 (1) - down a bit and ctrl+G. in this way, 00:41:370 (1,2,3) - will have a nice flow as well.
01:12:228 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - the flow is very bad if you look at the angle. would be much much better if you rotate 01:12:570 (1,2,3,4) - so they form a very circular flow
01:16:342 (3,4,1) - make them identical

top diff
00:15:313 (3) - adjust this slider cuz the flow seems weird atm for 00:15:142 (1,2,3) -
00:12:399 (1,2,3) - same here tbh
00:28:942 - can add a circle
00:38:456 (6) - the slider tail has equal soud with 00:38:970 - , in order to emphasise it you could change slider into 1/1 + a circle.
00:56:970 (4,5) - the flow suddenly pasued because you stacked them. Try to do sth like 01:07:942 (4,5,1) - with feels more natural
01:12:913 (4,5,6,7) - i want to see more aesthetics here

Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Neta 2018-01-10T16:43:26+00:00

sahuang wrote:
Hello

Easy
00:12:570 (1,2) - this kind of flow is very weird to play because the 1/1 slider is pointing down. It is not really friendly to new players. I suggest you make the flow more playable. Fixed
00:33:142 (4) - put it up a bit for better flow Fixed
00:36:570 (5) - NC Fixed
00:37:085 - the slider should end here, considering you are following vocal throughout the map Fixed
01:01:942 (1,2,4) - the overlaps here are very messy tbh, you could fix by adjusting 01:03:142 (3) - position so 01:01:942 (1,4) - can be stacked. Fixed

top diff
00:15:313 (3) - adjust this slider cuz the flow seems weird atm for 00:15:142 (1,2,3) - made stack on this
00:12:399 (1,2,3) - same here tbh Fixed?.. maybe
00:28:942 - can add a circle Fixed
00:38:456 (6) - the slider tail has equal soud with 00:38:970 - , in order to emphasise it you could change slider into 1/1 + a circle. Fixed
00:56:970 (4,5) - the flow suddenly pasued because you stacked them. Try to do sth like 01:07:942 (4,5,1) - with feels more natural Fixed
01:12:913 (4,5,6,7) - i want to see more aesthetics here Fixed

Thx for mod

HabiHolic

5,372 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2018-01-12T05:02:08+00:00

All Fixed

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: GlossyMMM.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 53370
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.4

[Metadata]
Title:Glossy:MMM
TitleUnicode:Glossy:MMM
Artist:Hashimoto Miyuki
ArtistUnicode:橋本みゆき
Creator:Neta
Version:Habi's Insane
Source:咲-Saki-
Tags:Little HabiHolic Momoka WhiteAries rinshankaihou haiteiraoyue haramura nodoka takei hisa amae koromo opening CloudSplash16
BeatmapID:453578
BeatmapSetID:189095

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8.5
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Saki.jpg",0,0
Video,0,"Saki op.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
228,342.857142857143,4,2,0,75,1,0
3313,-100,4,2,8,75,0,0
53713,-100,4,2,8,75,0,1
63999,-100,4,2,8,75,0,0
64685,-100,4,2,8,75,0,1
74970,-100,4,2,8,75,0,0
75656,-100,4,2,8,75,0,0
83885,-125,4,2,8,75,0,0
89028,-125,4,2,8,5,0,0


[Colours]
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Ozato Fumika

Beatmap Nominator

3,379 posts

Joined July 2013

Ozato Fumika 2018-01-13T17:27:02+00:00

removed the spinner

didn't add more triples

Thank you for modding

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 53370
Countdown: 0
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WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Glossy:MMM
TitleUnicode:Glossy:MMM
Artist:Hashimoto Miyuki
ArtistUnicode:橋本みゆき
Creator:Neta
Version:Momoka's Hard
Source:咲-Saki-
Tags:Little HabiHolic Momoka WhiteAries rinshankaihou haiteiraoyue haramura nodoka takei hisa amae koromo opening CloudSplash16
BeatmapID:456454
BeatmapSetID:189095

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Cote

275 posts

Joined January 2015

Cote 2018-01-21T00:07:01+00:00

Hi NM owo

Easy

00:04:170 (1) - Why do not you try to finish the roulette in 00:06:399 - imo sounds better, since the background sound is still heard and where you currently have it is not very convincing
00:07:085 (1,2) - Fix this blanket, try to position the 2 a little higher
00:22:170 (4,1,2) - I know it sounds a bit confusing but, why not try to make the 4 have a reverse, move the 1 until 00:23:542 - and lengthen it until 00:24:056 and 2 replace it with a circle, positioning it here 00:24:399 - this would be much better than the current (in case you have not understood me you can see this)
00:33:142 (4,1,2) - ^
00:53:713 - This part should be able to clickable, mainly because it is a strong blow besides this is where the kiai starts, because what with greater reason should not ignore this
01:00:570 (3,4) - This blanket could be better

Cloud's Normal

00:12:570 - Maybe this should be clickable
00:12:913 (1,2,3,4,5) - Here your rhythm becomes less dense, when the song was more dense at 00:07:085 (1) - maybe you should add more circles/sliders so you do not lose the density you had previously

Momoka's Hard

01:21:999 (1) - This slider can be replaced with 1/4 circles to keep rhythm with 01:22:342 (2,3,1) -

Habi's Insane

00:07:085 (2) - NC?
00:10:856 (7,1) - Maybe you could do a blanket here
00:33:485 (2,3) - ^

Saki

00:18:056 - Maybe here you should try to create a slider that reaches up to 00:18:399 - imo would be better since this should be clickable
00:28:942 (1) - I do not recommend silencing this, since a sound is clearly heard, so silencing this would be very strange
00:30:056 (6,1) - The spacing here is way too close to some of the 1/2 gaps. The spacing for example could be lowered to make them notably different
00:32:285 (1,2,3,4,5) - More space here, compared to the rest, this has very little space

Gl! owo

Ozato Fumika

Beatmap Nominator

3,379 posts

Joined July 2013

Ozato Fumika 2018-01-21T05:27:28+00:00

since a lot of people want me to add more triples... why not...

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Neta

536 posts

Joined May 2011

Topic Starter

Neta 2018-01-21T09:36:05+00:00

wolf3211 wrote:
Hi NM owo

Easy
00:04:170 (1) - Why do not you try to finish the roulette in 00:06:399 - imo sounds better, since the background sound is still heard and where you currently have it is not very convincing ye i agree with it sounds better but i got mod about spinner recovery time before and that happens XD
00:07:085 (1,2) - Fix this blanket, try to position the 2 a little higher Fixed
00:22:170 (4,1,2) - I know it sounds a bit confusing but, why not try to make the 4 have a reverse, move the 1 until 00:23:542 - and lengthen it until 00:24:056 and 2 replace it with a circle, positioning it here 00:24:399 - this would be much better than the current (in case you have not understood me you can see this) i think current one looks fine
00:33:142 (4,1,2) - ^
00:53:713 - This part should be able to clickable, mainly because it is a strong blow besides this is where the kiai starts, because what with greater reason should not ignore this Fixed
01:00:570 (3,4) - This blanket could be better Fixed

Saki
00:18:056 - Maybe here you should try to create a slider that reaches up to 00:18:399 - imo would be better since this should be clickable the new vocal starts from slider 1 so still looks fine for me
00:28:942 (1) - I do not recommend silencing this, since a sound is clearly heard, so silencing this would be very strange Fixed
00:30:056 (6,1) - The spacing here is way too close to some of the 1/2 gaps. The spacing for example could be lowered to make them notably different these looks fine for me
00:32:285 (1,2,3,4,5) - More space here, compared to the rest, this has very little space spaced little bit more
Gl! owo

Thx for mod!

Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2018-01-23T07:53:46+00:00

sahuang wrote:
lol CloudSplash
00:35:713 (4,1) - i think this is kinda confusing to play Seems fine to me.
00:38:456 (5) - reverse slider doesn't really follow music here, it is better to end slider 00:38:970 - and use a circle for current slider end Remapped this part.
00:44:799 - add a circle? No.
00:53:370 (1) - why nc I don't want follow points there.
01:08:456 (3,1) - the distance is confusing and flow is uncomfortable It feels good to me.
Old style o.o

wolf3211 wrote:
Cloud's Normal
00:12:570 - Maybe this should be clickable No.
00:12:913 (1,2,3,4,5) - Here your rhythm becomes less dense, when the song was more dense at 00:07:085 (1) - maybe you should add more circles/sliders so you do not lose the density you had previously No, i want more emphasis on those instrument quarter notes.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... Normal.osu

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2018-01-28T14:57:23+00:00

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00:01:428 (1,2,3) - 2 should have bigger spacing than the other 2 objects, since it has a strong cymbal on it
00:02:970 (1,2) - the spacing feels too big, since 2 is a secondary beat. try to move the full pattern 00:03:142 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - a bit closer to 1
00:06:999 (1,2) - swap NCs, your actual 2 is the melody change point-
00:16:685 (7,1) - swap NC, similar as above
00:27:828 (6,1) - ^
00:28:942 (1,2) - the double sounds super weird, taking in consideration that there is a sound at 00:28:856 - add a circle, it will play a lot better and also it will represent the music better
00:50:970 (1,2) - 1 should be the jump and 2 have lower spacing according to the song.
01:01:942 (6,1) - swap NC

normal

00:53:370 (1,1) - the nc spam doesn't work well at normal diffs, remove the second one.

easy

00:44:799 (5) - a 1/2 slider would sounds alot better and will be easier to play for newbies

Miyuki Hashimoto - Glossy:MMM

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Miyuki Hashimoto - Glossy:MMM

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