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Miyuki Hashimoto - Glossy:MMM

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Kensuke
[Saki]
  1. untick widescreen support
  2. 00:00:228 (1,2,3) - the spacing here might be too high since the song's intensity here is really low, making these hitobjects spaced pretty far from one another might not be appropriate with the song's intensity much. might be better to move these hitobjetcs nearer.
  3. 00:06:742 (2,3) - the spacing here might be too big because it's just 1/4 gap here. might make the spacing nearer.
  4. 00:18:056 - the cymbal sound at this spot is really discernibly dominant. being only a slider end might not emphasize the cymbal sound much. i'll highly recommend you to make this spot an active hitobjects, like a circle or a slider start.
  5. 00:31:428 (4,5) - these hitobjects are spaced unreasonably too far. it doesn't really emphasize any discernible sound here so there is no reason to make these hitobjects spaced too far from each other. in the other hand, 00:31:599 (5,6) - these hitobjects should space from each other further since the spot 00:31:770 - is where the new stanza begin, so making them further from each other will be more appropriate with the song.
  6. 00:40:342 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - in my perspective i think these spammed hitcircles with 1/2 gaps seem to be overmapped, since the song's intensity doesn't really support for these huge jump like this
  7. 00:48:142 (1) - the spinner here seems to be unreasonable here, since this spinner has ignored a lot of discernible sound. i understand what you're trying to make this spinner follows the vocals here, but just using the spinner here doesn't seem to be appropriate with the song and difficulty's intensity. it'd be better to remove this spinner and instead mapping this part here.
  8. 01:11:199 (5) - i personally think this spot shouldn't have just a 1/2 beat long slider, since the vocals at 01:11:199 - and 01:11:370 - are really discernibly dominant that using just a 1/2 beat long slider might not represent the vocal's intensity much. i'd recommend to use 2 circles with 1/2 beat gap here will emphasize the vocal's intensity better.
  9. 01:21:828 (3,1) - stacking these hitobjects here doesn't seem to be appropriate here since it gives no movement for players to follow. might be better to unstack this and make a jump here.
nothing here.
i don't think this is ready for being nominated tho. it needs some more rooms for improvements in terms of rhythm and spacing.
good luck!
Topic Starter
Neta

- Frontier - wrote:

[Saki]
  1. untick widescreen support FIXED
  2. 00:00:228 (1,2,3) - the spacing here might be too high since the song's intensity here is really low, making these hitobjects spaced pretty far from one another might not be appropriate with the song's intensity much. might be better to move these hitobjetcs nearer. reduced it
  3. 00:06:742 (2,3) - the spacing here might be too big because it's just 1/4 gap here. might make the spacing nearer. Fixed some way
  4. 00:18:056 - the cymbal sound at this spot is really discernibly dominant. being only a slider end might not emphasize the cymbal sound much. i'll highly recommend you to make this spot an active hitobjects, like a circle or a slider start. Fixed
  5. 00:31:428 (4,5) - these hitobjects are spaced unreasonably too far. it doesn't really emphasize any discernible sound here so there is no reason to make these hitobjects spaced too far from each other. in the other hand, 00:31:599 (5,6) - these hitobjects should space from each other further since the spot 00:31:770 - is where the new stanza begin, so making them further from each other will be more appropriate with the song. FIXED
  6. 00:40:342 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - in my perspective i think these spammed hitcircles with 1/2 gaps seem to be overmapped, since the song's intensity doesn't really support for these huge jump like this idk about this ;w;
  7. 00:48:142 (1) - the spinner here seems to be unreasonable here, since this spinner has ignored a lot of discernible sound. i understand what you're trying to make this spinner follows the vocals here, but just using the spinner here doesn't seem to be appropriate with the song and difficulty's intensity. it'd be better to remove this spinner and instead mapping this part here. agree with that way but i prefer following vocal here
  8. 01:11:199 (5) - i personally think this spot shouldn't have just a 1/2 beat long slider, since the vocals at 01:11:199 - and 01:11:370 - are really discernibly dominant that using just a 1/2 beat long slider might not represent the vocal's intensity much. i'd recommend to use 2 circles with 1/2 beat gap here will emphasize the vocal's intensity better. i think it's fine
  9. 01:21:828 (3,1) - stacking these hitobjects here doesn't seem to be appropriate here since it gives no movement for players to follow. might be better to unstack this and make a jump here. i think this stacking is reasonable cause vocal also music stops here so would prefer stacking than jump
nothing here.
i don't think this is ready for being nominated tho. it needs some more rooms for improvements in terms of rhythm and spacing.
good luck!
Thanks for mod!
Delis
can the bell sound have less volume it hurts my ears lol

Saki
00:01:428 (1,2) - you might wanna swap the nc for the strong sound at the (2), it also will make common sense.
00:04:256 (1) - ending the spinner at 00:06:056 - will be musically fitting better, it also gives a lot of recovery time after the spinner which is more friendly for gameplay.
00:06:742 (2,3,1) - the spacing is questionably huge, this kind of pattern can often be seen in tech maps but anime because that is definitely overdone for how the song goes. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10381791 this would do better here considering how you managed the spacing in the whole map.
00:38:456 (6) - could use a hitsound on the head, finish or clap will work nicely.
00:45:313 (1) - 00:46:685 (1) - 00:52:170 (3) - should consider making the sliders less curved as the curve generally breaks the flow for a sec which would hurt a bit when the mapping there is increasingly going higher, https://delisha.s-ul.eu/nY6o9SmR would be great.
01:04:428 (2,3,4) - could have claps on these notes, streams that are hitsounded usually play/sound better than having no hitsounds on the most of skins.
01:26:970 (1) - finish
01:27:056 (1) - again this spinner is not following anything in the song, the end should be at either 01:28:256 - or 01:29:199 - (or what habi did) also do this in the lower diffs too since theres a spinner that looks out of place too

it's actually good 2014 mapping but the circular sliders such as 00:45:313 (1) - are overdosed in the diff, it fundamentally is to make a small pause of the cursor movement and it often kills the flow that you've made with the jumps. you should re-consider to have less that slider (not telling you to remove all of them) for better structure with the sliders =).

Habi
00:52:513 - finish fits
00:56:028 (4,5) - 01:03:570 (2,3) - I don't know if these are supposed to be overlapped but they looked kinda gross in game due to it's on the border of being overlapped or not. I personally prefer having them overlapped more obvious way https://delisha.s-ul.eu/5ofko5Sy

Momoka
00:18:056 (1) - finish
00:28:170 (1) - ending this slider on the blue tick honestly makes no sense lol either on the white tick or the red tick where the slider will end up being 1/1 can be def better
00:34:856 (2) - 00:35:713 - hs (anything will work out)
00:52:170 (7) - finishes instead of the whistles could be a better choice

hitsounding seems having a heavy lack overall lol which had been happening in 2014 very often XD

Cloud
00:02:970 (1) - a 45 degree slider all of this sudden just looks hella bad and so plays not that great as well, a plain slider would be better for sure https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10382017
00:16:685 (1) - remove nc

Easy
00:04:170 (1) - remove finish
00:16:685 (2,3) - what the fuck is wrong with the bell sounds lol it sounds completely out of place when the song doesn't support for it at all? would just do what you did in the top diff.
00:18:056 (1) - finish
00:23:370 (1) - this 1/1 slider just won't work properly along with the 1/2 sliders afterward. 00:24:056 (2,3,4) - are following the bass or drum sounds which are reasonably mapped, but 00:23:370 (1) - is half for the vocals and drums that just didn't make it a correct rhythm. remove the slider and only a circle at 00:23:542 - will be the rhythm to get on with them. 00:34:342 (1) - same but it's doing fine because there's no 1/2 slider spam this time, but better change it as well as the first one can conflict its consistency.
01:03:142 (3) - finish on the head
Little

Delis wrote:

Cloud
00:02:970 (1) - a 45 degree slider all of this sudden just looks hella bad and so plays not that great as well, a plain slider would be better for sure https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10382017 I want to keep my flow, so changed differently.
00:16:685 (1) - remove nc ok
ThANKS heLLa

http://puu.sh/zzulp/536090dd28.zip
Topic Starter
Neta

Delis wrote:

can the bell sound have less volume it hurts my ears lol w
here even those bell came from
Saki

it's actually good 2014 mapping but the circular sliders such as 00:45:313 (1) - are overdosed in the diff, it fundamentally is to make a small pause of the cursor movement and it often kills the flow that you've made with the jumps. you should re-consider to have less that slider (not telling you to remove all of them) for better structure with the sliders =). you're right lol changed some of them that i thought it's on bad place


Easy
00:16:685 (2,3) - what the fuck is wrong with the bell sounds lol it sounds completely out of place when the song doesn't support for it at all? would just do what you did in the top diff. actually i thought i added hitsounds same way with top diff but lol.. well fixed


other i didn't mentioned, all fixed thx for mod delis!
Edit: to Momoka, Little, i fixed spinners by my self cause thought it's on my diff's mod and you guys won't read, so just noticing and you can change it if you don't like it :)

01:27:056 (1) - again this spinner is not following anything in the song, the end should be at either 01:28:256 - or 01:29:199 - (or what habi did) also do this in the lower diffs too since theres a spinner that looks out of place too
Little
That spinner end follows the point at which the downward gliss reaches scale degree 1 again, and stops going down, exactly one octave below where it started.
Just mentioning.
Topic Starter
Neta
okay just rollbacked spinners

looks like any of them makes sense
HabiHolic
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Uta
00:41:542 (2,1) - increase the distance please. the momentum of the movement isnt very well transported because of the low distance. btw dont kds this :>
(on saki diff)
Topic Starter
Neta
increased little bit
DeletedUser_3044645
00:18:056 -
00:52:170 -
00:52:513 -

여기 3군대 피니쉬 넣어주세요.

나머지는 모딩은 개노답이라 대답할 가치도 없네요.
Topic Starter
Neta
ㅇㅋ

all diff updated
Hollow Delta
rechecking

General
You still need to delete 2 out of 3 of your muted files. You only need one. The files in question are softsliderslider-4, 16 and 17


Saki
00:41:542 (2,1) - I feel the distance between the notes are surprisingly short, because they feel as intense as 00:41:028 (1,2,1,2) - which use a consistently larger spacing. If you drag down 00:41:713 (1,2,1,2,3,1) - you can bring the pattern down farther so the jump plays more consistently.


Some points in my previous mod went unnoticed that I feel are worth addressing. Specifically the tick rate situation of Hard, and HabiHolic's response, as both are kind of important for me to know xpp
Topic Starter
Neta
dragged down little bit also made distance larger between 00:41:542 (2,1) -

tickrate fixed

thx for recheck :)
Uta
go go go
DeletedUser_3044645

Bubblun wrote:

Some points in my previous mod went unnoticed that I feel are worth addressing. Specifically the tick rate situation of Hard, and HabiHolic's response, as both are kind of important for me to know xpp
I don't care what other diff's maximum score is, nor should you or anyone care.

I'll leave it to Neta for the decision.

계속 말같지도 않은 헛소리 늘어놓는데 문제삼기 싫으시면 네타님이 직접 바꿔주세요.
Topic Starter
Neta
우선은 바꿔둘게요 스코어, 콤보가 그리 중요하나 싶긴한데..

나중에라도 바꾸고 싶으시면 딴 분들 의견 모아서 전달하면 납득해주긴할듯
DeletedUser_3044645
편하신대로 하세요. 별것도 아닌거 가지고 피해 드리고 싶진 않으니

별의별 신개념 나찌 모딩들이 생겼네요 ㅋㅋ
Topic Starter
Neta
넵 ㅠㅠ 저거 힛사도 말이 안돼서 다른 사람들 의견 모아서 납득시켰는데 어이없긴함
HabiHolic
네타님 죄송한데 Bubblun 답변 늦을거같은데

늦춰지기싫으시다면 그냥 제꺼 전부 수정하실레요?
오늘중으로 하긴 할텐데.. 늦을거같아서용..
Topic Starter
Neta
오늘중이시면 그냥 기다릴게요 저 어디가 안고친지도 몰라서 ㅋㅋ
HabiHolic

Bubblun wrote:

m4m from queue

Habi's Insane
  1. 00:07:085 (2,3,4) - I feel this rhythm would be hard to anticipate, as 5 feels more intense than 00:07:513 (3,4) - so the triple feels overwhelming. https://puu.sh/zw2pS/cf7b0d1562.png I think this rhythm would play better. // No. I don't think.. 00:07:685 - It doesn't exist rhythm.
  2. 00:08:970 (3,4,5,6) - I think the linear motion is surprising to play, as the pattern at 00:07:942 (6) - was sharper, so it felt more snappy. https://puu.sh/zw2wt/1b685eb36f.png I think a pattern like this plays more consistently. // bad shape. no.
  3. 00:20:799 (1) - The spacing to 4 I think should be larger, as 00:19:428 (1) - had a jump to compliment the emphasized beat, so I feel it's underwhelming to have shorter spacing when large is expected. I think stacking 3-4 would emphasize the jump better too // i think not bad.sorry.
  4. 00:24:742 (1) - I think you should try ctrl+g on the slider to increase the spacing to the head, as the slider shares a similar distance from 00:24:570 (4) - yet feels more intense. // Why? shape and flowing bad that.. not fixed.
  5. 00:48:056 (1) - ^ // Same
@Delis : all Fixed
Topic Starter
Neta
waiting again zzz
Hollow Delta
Saki
00:21:656 (3,4,5) - I feel emphasis on 4 has surprisingly short spacing as it sounds similar to 00:21:313 (1,2,3) - which share consistent spacing. I think it would play more consistently with ctrl+g on 4, 5

Habi
00:20:799 (1) - I addressed this in my previous mod, but you denied it with no explanation. Please re-read my previous post as some of my points besides this one I still feel are relevant suggestions worth considering.
DeletedUser_3044645
매핑 스타일 이해할생각은 절대 안하고 쓸대없는 자기 생각만 늘어놓네~
Topic Starter
Neta
재발 버블해조..
HabiHolic
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40,319,74113,6,0,P|76:245|155:221,1,170,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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392,356,75570,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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440,108,76170,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,244,76342,2,0,P|248:244|208:220,1,85,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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200,160,77885,1,2,0:0:0:0:
40,296,78056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
200,376,78228,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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100,280,80285,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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192,96,81056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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Hollow Delta

Momoka wrote:

I don't care what other diff's maximum score is, nor should you or anyone care.
I'm sorry for trying to help you improve and push forward your map.


@Neta I've looked over the set and I think it's good to go. When you come online let me know and I can place the Bub.
Hollow Delta
Long discussion, but we adjusted a pattern at 00:21:313 (1,2,3,4,5) - to improve consistency and playability. Should be good to go xp
Delis
lol
Topic Starter
Neta

Delis wrote:

lol
holy shit thx delis
DeletedUser_3044645

Bubblun wrote:

Momoka wrote:

I don't care what other diff's maximum score is, nor should you or anyone care.
I'm sorry for trying to help you improve and push forward your map.
Do you honestly think "maximum score points" matter?
From 0.01 DS nazi mods to 1 pixel blanket nazi mods, and now
we stand at score point mods.
There is a significant difference between helping and being a pain.
Message me directly instead of posting your stubborn nonsense here. I'll be happy to have this conversation elsewhere.

개소리 해서 죄송합니다. 일단 랭크 축하드려요

평생 처음 보는 말도 안되는 점수 나찌 모딩 해놓고 비꼬면서 말하는게 어이가 없어서 한마디 했습니다.
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Neta
살리고도 꽤 걸렸는데 계속 봐주신 게스트분들께 제가 더 감사하네요

저도 이 맵 너무 지겨워서 그냥 하라는 대로 고친 부분이 좀 있긴함 ㅋㅋ
Gaia
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Neta
Gaia
Your title is fine, but artist needs to be flipped. Your links use the same image or doesn't have a romanised ver

old ranked maps are not valid metadata sources
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Neta
Gaia
aaa i hate to be the bringer of bad news but wikia page is definitely not official, and stuff like this you can really only rely on the official artist page/anime page/album itself. hmv doesn't look like it's the official distributor so that's probably not valid either.

i still love this song a lot tho, so i wanted to post asap so u can requal immediately if this is indeed wrong.
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Neta
okay gonna change then
Delis
when you try to make a website but your link is fucked up



hey but can u look at what "the link" says....
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Neta
I'm outta here lol


just my opinion

Since order of name is different between Japanese and English, Hashimoto Miyuki and Miyuki Hashimoto both are actual same name
idk if official artist name is important problem on mapping community but maybe both can be used in otherwise
shionelove
http://www.bunka.go.jp/kokugo_nihongo/s ... 04/17.html
i want to respect my Goverment.
And somehow i dislike firstname-surname order tho lol
Uta
finally, gratz neta~~~
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Neta

Uta wrote:

finally, gratz neta~~~
thank you uta!
DeletedUser_3044645
크.. 볼수록 오스 접기를 잘했다는 생각밖에 안드네요
여전하구만
Gaia
afaik urls can't justify meta

tbh if you ask me I'd also prefer it to be the other way around, but meta isnt subjective like that lol

Delis
Oh yea kwan is objective and everyone else is subjective
Fycho
What Gaia post,
Miyuki Hashimoto for romanised artist
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Neta

Fycho wrote:

What Gaia post,
Miyuki Hashimoto for romanised artist

Fixed
Fycho
back
Topic Starter
Neta

Momoka wrote:

크.. 볼수록 오스 접기를 잘했다는 생각밖에 안드네요
여전하구만
ㄹㅇ루다가
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