STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION - Daisy* [Taiko|Osu] · forum

Swiftheart

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Swiftheart 2014-06-12T14:20:37+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 16 September 2014 at 08:25:20 AM

Artist: STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION
Title: Daisy*
Source: 境界の彼方
Tags: kyoukai no kanata full version ending hanyuu_nanodesu Mykaterasu CoroQuetz -Nya-
BPM: 85
Filesize: 4802kb
Play Time: 04:28
Difficulties Available:

Coro's Oni* (3.67 stars, 1010 notes)
Hard* (2 stars, 335 notes)
Mykaterasu's Another* (4.33 stars, 846 notes)
nanodesu's Insane* (3.06 stars, 484 notes)
Normal* (1.36 stars, 207 notes)
Nya's Hard* (2.3 stars, 407 notes)

Download: STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION - Daisy*
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hey! This is my VERY FIRST beatmap! *For Rank*

Normal*~ (Done)
Hard*~ (Done)
Nya's Hard*~ (Done)
nanodesu's Insane*~ (Done)
Mykaterasu's Another*~ (Done)
Coro's Oni (Taiko) ~ (Done)

Thanks for the GD's hanyuu_nanodesu,Mykaterasu, -Nya- and CoroQuetz! :3
Ready for mods!*

Enjoy ;D

Last edited by Swiftheart 2014-09-16T15:25:42+00:00, edited 66 times in total.

micchi_chi

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micchi_chi 2014-06-15T09:46:37+00:00

Greetings from the most random person ever XD
I saw your help request on the modding queues forum, and I think I can help you finding the right timing ^^
BPM ---> 85 (?) Correct √
Offset ---> 15,060 (?) Nope
Try this for offset ---> 13,648 (So the kiai would start on big white tick ^^)
I'm a new mapper, so you could ask for other person opinion ^^

Well, because I'm here, I'm going to mod Generally ^^

1. You must set preview point. Choose where you want to set the preview point by scrolling the timeline, I suggest it to be at 01:12:942 or 02:29:177 but well, it's up to you ^^. And then go to the timing tab (File, Edit,.....,Design, Timing) and click "Set Current Position as Preview Point"
2. Fill the source and the tag. It's from an anime called Kyoukai no Kanata right? Then put it in the source. For the tag, you don't have to put the artist, title, or the source again. Example : anime full version ending .... etc.
3. You must use distance snap. You can adjust the distance spacing by pressing Alt and scroll your mouse. For hard, you can use 1.3x or 1.5x, for normal you can use 0.8x or 1.0x but again, this is up to you ^^ You may disable distance snap for a while in hard to make jumps, but this is not allowed on normal.
4. Kiai time here 01:57:060 is unnecessary, consider removing it. As well as here 01:12:236
5. Timing point here 04:39:236 is also unnecessary.
6. Have you use hitsound? (Whistle, clap, finish, etc) If you haven't, you must add some hitsounds.
7. Don't forget to check AiMod (Ctrl+Shift+A). And snap your kiai end ^^

Well, I think that's all. Pretty good for first map eh?

Maybe I could do more detailed mod after you fixed the general problems which have pointed out above ^^ Just PM me if you want re-check ^^ But you know, I'm a new modder so maybe my mod won't be useful

Good Luck on your map~ Have a cute onigiri :3

Swiftheart

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Swiftheart 2014-06-15T16:32:34+00:00

Thank you SOOO MUCH! Well can you maybe do a testplay, just to check if everything okay is, because I am not really a good player and I suck.

Thanks!

Last edited by Swiftheart 2014-07-06T15:32:15+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

micchi_chi

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micchi_chi 2014-06-18T08:27:14+00:00

Hello again~!

First of all, have you actually applied my mod? I realized that you haven't set preview point, haven't change your offset, haven't use any distance snap (to use distance snap also mean to reposition all of the note), and I don't know about the other.... You know how to update your map right? Just in case you don't know, on editor, go to File, Upload Beatmap... (Ctrl+shift+U) and update beatmap. To get a mod, you can't just wait and do nothing, you can request mod from modding queues forum, select one topic, read their rules and post your map when the queue is open. And after you receive a mod, give them a feedback, which you change and which you didn't change (because you don't have to apply every mod you get, if you think it's fine, then leave it the way it is). And one more thing, if you think a modder mod is useful for you, show your gratitude by giving them kudosu by clicking "Give Kudosu" button below their profile photo

Kudosu can be used to increase your own map or others map star priority by shooting a star. If you want to get some kudosu, then you have to mod others map.

Well, that's it, if you have any other question, you can PM me again

Here my testplay:

[Normal*]

SPOILER

Result

Replay
puu.sh/9yJIi/92173b4997.osr

Impression
Well, I think it's a bit too easy for normal, but still acceptable

It's a bit confusing because you haven't applied distance snap. And I think it would be better to make a full version for your normal, in other words, end it at the same time as your hard. I know it's a bit boring to make and play, but it's not the same for new players, but yeah it's up to you. Improvement needed

[Hard*]

SPOILER

Result

Replay
puu.sh/9yJJO/d5d8c6d3d7.osr

Impression
Same as above, it's a bit confusing, some sliders looks crooked and weird. But overall, it's pretty good for first map, considering how bad my first map is

BTW, I kinda like your slider creation

Improvement needed

[Lize's Hard*]

SPOILER

Result

Replay
puu.sh/9yJKw/e452baf370.osr

Impression
Oh my God, my accuracy is very bad

It's not even perfect T_T I have to say, this one much more confusing... I don't know, I'm not in mood to play or something else but it's confusing to me.... For example this part 00:46:825 (8,1) - I kinda disliked those triplets as well, and I dislike the sliders shape (I love this one though 00:18:589 (1) - ) Improvement needed

Once again, good luck ^^ And maybe, if you want, I can make Insane GD.... but you have to have patience for that, I'm slow at mapping :3

[-Sophie-]_old

[-Sophie-]_old 2014-07-05T12:56:07+00:00

[Easy]
Alt+G please

AIMod

00:25:295 - Added circle here EG ;

,

01:35:883 - Add note here
03:47:177 - Normal Slider is fine
04:28:471 (5) - Add note here
[Hard]

AIMod

00:30:589 - 00:33:413 - Lead off doesn't sound right, Maybe make slider smaller?
00:49:648 - 00:52:472 - ^
01:04:472 - 01:06:589 - ^
01:10:119 - Change design to https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1786234
01:20:707 - Lead off doesn't sound right, Maybe make slider smaller?
Look at AIMod, Easy and Hard as requested!

Goodluck!

Coro

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Coro 2014-07-05T13:29:33+00:00

Hey~
Can I map a Taiko guest diff for this song?

Swiftheart

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Topic Starter

Swiftheart 2014-07-05T13:29:51+00:00

Thanks for your mod, Sophie! I really appreciate it.
I checked AiMod and corrected all the errors. (PS: Sorry about that. I forgot to check it out)
About the Hard diff: The reason some of the sliders were off is because the offset wasn't right. It sometimes automatically changes for no reason, but I fixed it.
Again, thank you very much!

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Swiftheart

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Swiftheart 2014-07-05T13:31:50+00:00

Yes, please, CoroQuetz. That would be great!

Mykaterasu

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Mykaterasu 2014-07-08T19:40:59+00:00

Hey!
Just here to say it's a great map so far, but I have one gripe. This song is swung. The notes are in 1/3 and 1/6 divisions. All of your sliders and such are set to 1/2s and 1/4s which is incorrect.
Now that I've gotten that out of the way;
Let the modding begin!
-----
01:38:000 (1,1) - Add a break time?
02:54:236 (1,1) - Break time again.
04:16:118 (1,1) - And again.
04:28:471 (1) - End the spinner here - [04:31:647] - since it's where the music cuts off.
-----
Onto the positives;
Note positioning is great. You've done a good job with all the difficulties so far
The Difficulties progress nicely. The only concern I have is that there isn't a challenging 4 star or higher map yet. If you don't plan on doing one, I'd love to do it as a guest difficulty.
Aside from those, this map looks so promising. Keep this going!
Good luck with the map.

Swiftheart

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Swiftheart 2014-07-08T20:29:05+00:00

Mykaterasu wrote:
Hey!
Just here to say it's a great map so far, but I have one gripe. This song is swung. The notes are in 1/3 and 1/6 divisions. All of your sliders and such are set to 1/2s and 1/4s which is incorrect. I don't really understand what's wrong. Can you then maybe explain how I can fix it?
Now that I've gotten that out of the way;
Let the modding begin!
-----
01:38:000 (1,1) - Add a break time?
02:54:236 (1,1) - Break time again.
04:16:118 (1,1) - And again. Sorry, I'm satisfied with my breaks,but thanks for the suggestion.
04:28:471 (1) - End the spinner here - [04:31:647] - since it's where the music cuts off. Fixed
-----
Onto the positives;
Note positioning is great. You've done a good job with all the difficulties so far Thanx!
The Difficulties progress nicely. The only concern I have is that there isn't a challenging 4 star or higher map yet. If you don't plan on doing one, I'd love to do it as a guest difficulty. Yes! That'll be great!
Aside from those, this map looks so promising. Keep this going!
Good luck with the map.

Thanks for the mod!
I really appreciate it!

Last edited by Swiftheart 2014-07-09T09:04:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

[ Joey ]

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Joined May 2013

[ Joey ] 2014-07-09T07:29:22+00:00

Hi SwiftHeart! Your brother told me to mod this map for a m4m

Good job on your first map. Very nice

[Easy]
Distance Snapping
The first thing that I have to say about this diff is the whole thing MUST be distance snapped properly, because it is an Easy. Most Easy / Normal difficulties use distance snap through the whole song. So check your AIMod to tell you which notes are out of place. For me, it is showing these:
00:52:471 (4) - 01:35:883 (7) - 03:32:000 (5) -
I would increase the distance snap by 0.1, so the 1/2 note distance snaps don't overlap each other. It looks cleaner to me this way

Blanketing
In my opinion, your map would look better if you blanketed more of your sliders. If you don't know that that means, here is a picture:
01:29:883 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/a3kmS/ae0d1884c8.jpg
It's when you curve the slider to wrap around another note.

Overlapping
Try not to overlap many notes. It makes it hard for newer players to read. Here are places where you should fix the overlaps:
00:36:942 (5,1) -
01:20:001 (8,2) -
01:23:530 (3,5) -
02:43:295 (6,8) -
03:09:413 (6,7,1) -
03:15:766 (5,1) -
04:14:000 (1,2) -

New Combos
I see a lot of areas where you should add / remove NC's. I'll list them here:
00:17:883 - Add NC
00:24:942 - Add NC
00:36:942 - Add NC (start of vocals)
00:38:354 - Remove NC
00:42:589 - Add NC
00:47:530 - Add NC
00:52:471 - Add NC
00:59:530 - Add NC
01:18:589 - Add NC
01:24:236 - Add NC
01:33:412 - Add NC
01:35:883 - Add NC
01:36:236 - Remove NC
01:58:824 - Add NC
02:00:236 - Remove NC
02:04:118 - Add NC
02:12:236 - Add NC
02:15:059 - Add NC
02:17:883 - Add NC
02:34:824 - Add NC
02:44:000 - Add NC
02:52:471 - Add NC
03:00:942 - Add NC
03:08:000 - Add NC
03:15:059 - Add NC
03:20:000 - Add NC
03:30:589 - Add NC
03:37:647 - Add NC
03:59:177 - Add NC
04:05:177 - Add NC
04:13:647 - Add NC
04:14:000 - Remove NC
04:19:295 - Add NC

Sorry, I'm out of time right now, I'll come back and mod the rest of the difficulties as soon as I can! I'm so sorry!

Mykaterasu

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Mykaterasu 2014-07-09T15:07:06+00:00

Swiftheart wrote:
I don't really understand what's wrong. Can you then maybe explain how I can fix it?

Seeing that you don't understand swing time, I can help you in 2 approaches.

First, thanks for accepting me to do a Guest Difficulty.
Option one:
-> I can send you a puush of my difficulty in its draft stage as an example of what I mean.
Option two:
-> We chat in game (or skype etc...) and I explain it to you live.

I'm willing to do both at any time.
Cheers.

Edit:
Extra modding time.
00:02:353 - I'm starting the BPM point here since my difficulty starts here but it doesn't actually affect the performance of the piece. Just tidies it up.

Swiftheart

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Swiftheart 2014-07-09T15:20:54+00:00

Mykaterasu wrote:
Swiftheart wrote:
I don't really understand what's wrong. Can you then maybe explain how I can fix it?
Seeing that you don't understand swing time, I can help you in 2 approaches.

First, thanks for accepting me to do a Guest Difficulty.
Option one:
-> I can send you a puush of my difficulty in its draft stage as an example of what I mean. This option, please.
Option two:
-> We chat in game (or skype etc...) and I explain it to you live.

I'm willing to do both at any time.
Cheers.

Edit:
Extra modding time.
00:02:353 - I'm starting the BPM point here since my difficulty starts here but it doesn't actually affect the performance of the piece. Just tidies it up. It's fine, thanks!

Thanks again for the GD.

Swiftheart

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Swiftheart 2014-07-09T16:38:56+00:00

[ Joey ] wrote:
Hi SwiftHeart! Your brother told me to mod this map for a m4m

Good job on your first map. Very nice
[Easy]
Distance Snapping
The first thing that I have to say about this diff is the whole thing MUST be distance snapped properly, because it is an Easy. Most Easy / Normal difficulties use distance snap through the whole song. So check your AIMod to tell you which notes are out of place. For me, it is showing these:
00:52:471 (4) - 01:35:883 (7) - 03:32:000 (5) - Fixed, whole diff is distance snapped.
I would increase the distance snap by 0.1, so the 1/2 note distance snaps don't overlap each other. It looks cleaner to me this way Sorry, I'm keeping it the same, but thanks for the suggestion.

Blanketing
In my opinion, your map would look better if you blanketed more of your sliders. If you don't know that that means, here is a picture:
01:29:883 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/a3kmS/ae0d1884c8.jpg
It's when you curve the slider to wrap around another note. Added as much blanketing as possible. (Thanx for that)

Overlapping
Try not to overlap many notes. It makes it hard for newer players to read. Here are places where you should fix the overlaps:
00:36:942 (5,1) -
01:20:001 (8,2) -
01:23:530 (3,5) -
02:43:295 (6,8) -
03:09:413 (6,7,1) -
03:15:766 (5,1) -
04:14:000 (1,2) -
Fixed. No more overlapping.

New Combos
I see a lot of areas where you should add / remove NC's. I'll list them here:
00:17:883 - Add NC
00:24:942 - Add NC
00:36:942 - Add NC (start of vocals)
00:38:354 - Remove NC
00:42:589 - Add NC
00:47:530 - Add NC
00:52:471 - Add NC
00:59:530 - Add NC
01:18:589 - Add NC
01:24:236 - Add NC
01:33:412 - Add NC
01:35:883 - Add NC
01:36:236 - Remove NC
01:58:824 - Add NC
02:00:236 - Remove NC
02:04:118 - Add NC
02:12:236 - Add NC
02:15:059 - Add NC
02:17:883 - Add NC
02:34:824 - Add NC
02:44:000 - Add NC
02:52:471 - Add NC
03:00:942 - Add NC
03:15:059 - Add NC
03:20:000 - Add NC
03:30:589 - Add NC
03:37:647 - Add NC
03:59:177 - Add NC
04:05:177 - Add NC
04:13:647 - Add NC
04:14:000 - Remove NC
04:19:295 - Add NC
Fixed all the combos.

Sorry, I'm out of time right now, I'll come back and mod the rest of the difficulties as soon as I can! I'm so sorry! Quite alright

Thanks for the mod so far.

hehe

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hehe 2014-07-16T10:30:32+00:00

M4M request

not very good at mapping slow maps

GENERAL

Combo 3 different colour maybe?

INSANE
generally enjoyable and well mapped. underuse of triples though

00:41:883 (1,2,3) - weird flow here
00:44:000 (6,1) - the creativity is good, but jump too far
00:55:647 (5,1) - can be confusing
02:00:236 (5,6) - follow beat but spacing is hard to read
02:22:295 (4,5) - change to
SPOILER
02:34:118 (5,6,1,2,3) - mapped to song is kind of weird, but it can work
03:54:942 (4,5) - don't think it is necessary to jump

LIZE'S HARD
a lot of circles, interestingly mapped. check for DS issues and stack issues though!

00:32:707 (7) - DS this
00:36:942 (3) - maybe angle down?
00:50:001 (1) - DS
00:52:472 (1,2) - ^
01:15:766 (1,2) - not mapped to anything, since symmetry usually represents the same thing twice, maybe change to
SPOILER
01:30:942 (4,5) - jump too big
02:36:942 (4,1) - ds
02:40:118 (7,1) - ^
02:59:883 (6) - try not to put this here, DS
03:50:001 (1,1) - not stacked with 03:48:236 (1)
03:54:236 (1) - ds
03:56:354 (3) - ^
03:56:353 (3,4) - try not to have th slider lead directly to the note, change the angle a little
03:57:765 (7,8) - ^
04:09:412 (1) - sliderend stack with 04:07:648 (3) ?

HARD

00:15:413 (4,5) - ds
00:20:354 (2,3) - ^
00:58:825 (4) - nc
01:28:119 (7,8) - DS
01:28:825 (1,2) - space more
01:56:354 (6) - ds
02:00:942 (4) - ds
02:03:766 (1,2) - this two notes can blanket 02:05:883 (3)
02:49:295 (6) - try to add note after this
03:03:060 (1) - stack with 03:00:942 (5)
03:21:765 (6) - ctrl+g
03:22:471 (7) - ^
04:02:354 (3) - blanket properly
04:04:119 (5) - ds
04:12:236 (5) - place at end of 04:10:118 (3) ?
04:13:648 (7) - ds
04:24:589 (1) - stack with 04:22:472 (6)
04:28:472 (1) - a bit too long

Swiftheart

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Swiftheart 2014-07-16T12:04:55+00:00

handsome wrote:
M4M request not very good at mapping slow maps

GENERAL

Combo 3 different colour maybe? Changed the colour.

INSANE
generally enjoyable and well mapped. underuse of triples though

00:41:883 (1,2,3) - weird flow here
00:44:000 (6,1) - the creativity is good, but jump too far
00:55:647 (5,1) - can be confusing
02:00:236 (5,6) - follow beat but spacing is hard to read
02:22:295 (4,5) - change to
SPOILER
02:34:118 (5,6,1,2,3) - mapped to song is kind of weird, but it can work
03:54:942 (4,5) - don't think it is necessary to jump

LIZE'S HARD
a lot of circles, interestingly mapped. check for DS issues and stack issues though!Fixed most of the DS issues.

00:32:707 (7) - DS this Fixed
00:36:942 (3) - maybe angle down? Fixed
00:50:001 (1) - DS I'm ok with how it is now
00:52:472 (1,2) - ^
01:15:766 (1,2) - not mapped to anything, since symmetry usually represents the same thing twice, maybe change to
SPOILER
01:30:942 (4,5) - jump too big Fixed
02:36:942 (4,1) - ds Fixed
02:40:118 (7,1) - ^
02:59:883 (6) - try not to put this here, DS Fixed
03:50:001 (1,1) - not stacked with 03:48:236 (1) Fixed
03:54:236 (1) - ds Fixed
03:56:354 (3) - ^
03:56:353 (3,4) - try not to have th slider lead directly to the note, change the angle a little Changed it
03:57:765 (7,8) - ^
04:09:412 (1) - sliderend stack with 04:07:648 (3) ? Nah

HARD

00:15:413 (4,5) - ds Fixed
00:20:354 (2,3) - ^
00:58:825 (4) - nc Fixed
01:28:119 (7,8) - DS Fixed
01:28:825 (1,2) - space more Fixed
01:56:354 (6) - ds Fixed
02:00:942 (4) - ds Fixed
02:03:766 (1,2) - this two notes can blanket 02:05:883 (3) Changed
02:49:295 (6) - try to add note after this Note added
03:03:060 (1) - stack with 03:00:942 (5) Stacked
03:21:765 (6) - ctrl+g Fixed
03:22:471 (7) - ^
04:02:354 (3) - blanket properly Fixed
04:04:119 (5) - ds Fixed
04:12:236 (5) - place at end of 04:10:118 (3) ? ok
04:13:648 (7) - ds Fixed
04:24:589 (1) - stack with 04:22:472 (6) Fixed
04:28:472 (1) - a bit too long Shortened it a bit

Thanks for the mod!

micchi_chi

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micchi_chi 2014-07-17T08:54:26+00:00

Sorry I'm late, I have school today

handsome wrote:
INSANE
generally enjoyable and well mapped. underuse of triples though <

00:41:883 (1,2,3) - weird flow here < Really? I think it's look pretty fine :/
00:44:000 (6,1) - the creativity is good, but jump too far < Insane needs jumps T_T I even think my insane is lack of jumps
00:55:647 (5,1) - can be confusing < Looks pretty good though ^^
02:00:236 (5,6) - follow beat but spacing is hard to read < I don't think so, I just put it at the end of the slider, that's all :/
02:22:295 (4,5) - change to < Looks fine enough for now, eh? :3
SPOILER
02:34:118 (5,6,1,2,3) - mapped to song is kind of weird, but it can work < Not changing this :3
03:54:942 (4,5) - don't think it is necessary to jump < Jump is love, jump is life :3, my map needs more jumps T_T

Sorry, I didn't change anything >.<
Anyway, thank you for mod though :3
You can update the map now :3

Frostings

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Joined May 2013

Frostings 2014-07-19T15:21:36+00:00

Hi there

[Easy]

I highly don't recommend using decimal CS (circle size) - in your future maps please use a whole number (3.0, 4.0, etc.)

You know you can copy+paste objects right? Things like 00:13:647 (1,2) - , 00:17:883 (1,2,3) - etc you can make one slider and copy+paste then rotate by 180 degrees to make exact sliders

01:05:177 (2,3) - This isn't something you should do in Easy (or even Normal, for that matter) This is almost impossible to read for beginners. I suggest you space them out so that they are not overlapped, and that you can read the numbers on the sliders

01:15:766 (3,4,5) - I suggest you switch the pattern so that they're not overlapping because this looks really messy (actually it might be better to simplify the rhythm)

01:38:706 - 01:41:177 - Spinner instead of break?

02:00:236 (2,3) - This stacking isn't something you should do on Easy because it's really hard to read

03:16:471 (3,1,2) - avoid using patterns like this where they overlap very strangely

03:56:000 (6,1,2,3,1) - you should probably stop overusing these kinds of sliders. They're hard and quite uninteresting to play

04:15:059 (3) - Check out this great guide on making delicious sliders

04:20:706 (2,3,4,5,1) - yeah, this overlap is ... *-* Just simplify the rhythm, don't be afraid to use minimal circles, rather than trying to use many sliders

General comments: This is quite a hard Easy. You have complicated rhythms and layout problems that make the map hard to read for beginners. Rhythms such as 01:33:412 (1,2,3) - , 02:03:060 (4,1,2,3,1) - , 02:34:825 (1,2,3,4,1) -, 02:41:177 (3,4,5,6,1) - and other similar patterns you should simplify greatly. I suggest you listen closely to the song (at 0.5x playback rate) and listen to the very strong beats and map only those

[Hard]

You know only some parts of this song are in 1/4, right? The rest is in 1/6. You're mapping the 1/4 beats in the wrong parts. Change your beat snap divisor to 1/6 and you should be able to hear all your main beats on those ticks. Message me in-game if you need help

[Lize's Hard]

00:22:118 (5) - unneeded clap
01:16:118 (2) - clap on tail
02:33:413 (3) - stay on the grid

[nanodesu's Insane]

same as Hard

[Mykaterasu's Another]

... I'm not sure if this map is for fun or for ranked

micchi_chi

764 posts

Joined July 2013

micchi_chi 2014-07-20T09:11:01+00:00

Hi~
Reply to Frostings' mod, I think its the other way around...
Some parts use 1/6 beat snap divisor, and the rest use 1/4 beat snap divisor...
I think the first part, the chorus and some other parts sounds fine with 1/4 beat snap divisor...
I know the ranked TV size ver by Umi fully uses 1/3 beat snap divisor with doubled BPM
From what I learn, the fast BPM of songs which use 1/3 and 1/6 beat snap divisor would be triple the slow BPM
And usually, the fast BPM of songs which use 1/4 beat snap divisor would be double the slow BPM
For example, if you listen to "Tabi no Tochuu", Spice and Wolf opening which uses 1/3 or 1/6 beat snap divisor, you can find 2 kinds of BPM
The fast BPM would be 172
The slow BPM would be 57.33 (1/3 of the fast BPM)
But on this song, the fast BPM (170) doubled the slow BPM (85), and not tripled it
So I think using 1/4 beat snap divisor would be fine

Anyway CMIIW

UPDATE

osu file format v13

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52,136,179530,2,0,P|64:200|48:252,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
40,312,180059,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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244,64,183059,6,0,P|188:88|124:80,1,112.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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296,212,184471,2,0,P|324:268|376:288,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,196,185000,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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428,64,185530,2,0,L|452:132,1,60,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,240,185883,6,0,P|464:300|396:328,1,112.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,336,186412,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,280,186589,2,0,P|224:248|168:236,2,90,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,324,187471,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,264,187647,2,0,P|88:232|84:192,1,67.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,168,188000,2,0,P|136:136|136:40,1,135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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140,48,188883,2,0,P|200:28|244:36,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,52,189412,2,0,P|376:68|420:60,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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216,148,191706,2,0,P|180:176|168:208,1,67.5
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80,188,193295,2,0,P|104:140|104:108,1,67.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,230706,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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220,304,233706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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216,100,236000,2,0,P|160:112|112:96,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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196,72,237765,2,0,P|148:80|88:60,2,90,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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308,144,238824,2,0,P|332:184|364:204,1,67.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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112,80,243236,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,76,243412,2,0,P|244:120|228:200,1,135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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360,348,245000,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,260,245177,6,0,B|332:224|332:224|352:204|352:204|328:172|348:124,1,135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,148,245883,2,0,P|476:152|524:136,2,90,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
468,64,246765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,80,246942,2,0,P|336:88|296:84,1,67.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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156,92,247647,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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Swiftheart

42 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Swiftheart 2014-07-20T13:25:14+00:00

Frostings wrote:
Hi there

[Easy]

I highly don't recommend using decimal CS (circle size) - in your future maps please use a whole number (3.0, 4.0, etc.) Fixed

You know you can copy+paste objects right? Things like 00:13:647 (1,2) - , 00:17:883 (1,2,3) - etc you can make one slider and copy+paste then rotate by 180 degrees to make exact sliders Copy and pasted alot of sliders.

01:05:177 (2,3) - This isn't something you should do in Easy (or even Normal, for that matter) This is almost impossible to read for beginners. I suggest you space them out so that they are not overlapped, and that you can read the numbers on the sliders Removed all overlaps

01:15:766 (3,4,5) - I suggest you switch the pattern so that they're not overlapping because this looks really messy (actually it might be better to simplify the rhythm)

01:38:706 - 01:41:177 - Spinner instead of break? I'm satisfied with how it is now, but thanks for the suggestion

02:00:236 (2,3) - This stacking isn't something you should do on Easy because it's really hard to read

03:16:471 (3,1,2) - avoid using patterns like this where they overlap very strangely

03:56:000 (6,1,2,3,1) - you should probably stop overusing these kinds of sliders. They're hard and quite uninteresting to play

04:15:059 (3) - Check out this great guide on making delicious sliders

04:20:706 (2,3,4,5,1) - yeah, this overlap is ... *-* Just simplify the rhythm, don't be afraid to use minimal circles, rather than trying to use many sliders

General comments: This is quite a hard Easy. You have complicated rhythms and layout problems that make the map hard to read for beginners. Rhythms such as 01:33:412 (1,2,3) - , 02:03:060 (4,1,2,3,1) - , 02:34:825 (1,2,3,4,1) -, 02:41:177 (3,4,5,6,1) - and other similar patterns you should simplify greatly. I suggest you listen closely to the song (at 0.5x playback rate) and listen to the very strong beats and map only those I did ALOT of changes on the Easy diff. It's much simpler now.

[Hard]

You know only some parts of this song are in 1/4, right? The rest is in 1/6. You're mapping the 1/4 beats in the wrong parts. Change your beat snap divisor to 1/6 and you should be able to hear all your main beats on those ticks. Message me in-game if you need help I didn't change the beat snap divisor. I'll try to change it if others also have a problem with it.

[Lize's Hard]

00:22:118 (5) - unneeded clap Fixed
01:16:118 (2) - clap on tail Fixed
02:33:413 (3) - stay on the grid Fixed

[nanodesu's Insane]

same as Hard

[Mykaterasu's Another]

... I'm not sure if this map is for fun or for ranked

Thanks for the mod! I really appreciate it.

Mykaterasu

584 posts

Joined March 2014

Mykaterasu 2014-07-20T18:04:58+00:00

Frostings wrote:
[Mykaterasu's Another]

... I'm not sure if this map is for fun or for ranked

Why can't they be both?

In all fairness it's intended for ranked, but I begin with a fun draft and then adapt for ranked.

Coro

2,394 posts

Joined September 2010

Coro 2014-07-27T02:51:55+00:00

Hi~
it's taking a while to map since it's a long song, but I've finished the Oni (Insane) difficulty~
http://puu.sh/asEja/5b85ae8b2a.osu

I'll finish Muzukashii (Hard) soon and post here~

Swiftheart

42 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Swiftheart 2014-07-28T17:43:50+00:00

Thanks alot for the Taiko Diff! I really appreciate it!*

dorillis

41 posts

Joined July 2014

dorillis 2014-08-04T10:13:52+00:00

Ah I love this song. Great job on your first beatmap.

General:
1. I feel like you should have A higher slider velocity. Either 1.60 or 1.70.

Not only will it move more smoothly with the song, it'll fit better since atm the sliders are really short so they end up feeling rather sparse.

Lize's hard*:
00:18:589 (1) - Put a clap here
03:36:942 - Put something here like a spinner.
04:15:765 (3)- Move this back a notch.

nanodesu's Insane*:
00:26:589 (3) and 00:27:059 (4) should not be over lapping like that. Space them out.
01:11:883 (1) - Either remove the clap or put a clap on 01:11:412 (1) too
02:09:765 (1,2) - Use this element again at 02:10:824 except instead of a slider at 02:11:177 have just a circle. It sounds a lot better like that.
01:41:706 (2) - 01:41:706 (2) - 01:43:824 (7) - There are a lot of these circles that are in between beats. move them forward just enough so they'll snap onto the beat just ahead of them them. Trust me. It'll sound amazing. (Note: only do this to the circles that are just in front of a slider)

That's about it. I hope that helped.

Spicy Salsa

67 posts

Joined November 2013

Spicy Salsa 2014-08-04T13:18:09+00:00

Hey

Here's my mod for M4M:

Easy
01:16:472 (4,5) - I feel like it would look better if these two wouldn't touch because if the little slider don't touch each other, it'd look weird if the big would, This would actually look neat.
01:24:236 (1) - Here you could reverse the slider (Ctrl+G) so you wouldn't need to change the direction as you finish with the previous hitcircles. This change would need the rest of the kiai time elements to flip horizontally. So:
01:25:648 (2) - Ctrl+G
01:27:060 (3) - Ctrl+H
01:28:472 (1) - Ctrl+G
01:29:883 (2) - ^
01:31:295 (3) - Ctrl+H
01:33:412 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^

Hard
00:30:589 (3) - Change the slider shape a little, so it looks good with the previous one: before ; after
00:54:942 (5) - The opposite with this one, move the slider point one grid down, like this.
01:07:295 (5,6) - Adjust this one too, until it looks like this.
01:45:060 (3,4) - Same here, it'd look better like this.
02:44:001 (5) - Move one grid to the left.
04:19:295 (1) - Not sure if this is on purpose, but all the other sliders that had that kind of length, including the next slider are a tad longer than this one. Just switch to 1/12 and make the slider a little longer so it has a 1/12 snap more.

Lize's Hard*
01:10:119 (1,1,1,1,1) - Seems like too many New Combos in a short time, you might want to think this over again.
02:26:354 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
03:48:236 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^
01:32:000 (6,7,8) - This seems a little weird since the vocals don't coincide with the timing of those hitcircles and the song doesn't provide any hint too. Might want to think of a better solution.

That'd be all I could help with

Edit: I'd love to hear if my mod was helpful and what I could do better next time since I'm fairly new to modding :3

micchi_chi

764 posts

Joined July 2013

micchi_chi 2014-08-05T07:33:49+00:00

Hi~ mod reply

dorillis wrote:
nanodesu's Insane*:
00:26:589 (3) and 00:27:059 (4) should not be over lapping like that. Space them out. < It was on purpose, some mapper do that too... It was to make it somehow like it stopped a bit or something like that XD
01:11:883 (1) - Either remove the clap or put a clap on 01:11:412 (1) too < Okay, I put an clap on the slider end of 01:11:412 (1) -
02:09:765 (1,2) - Use this element again at 02:10:824 except instead of a slider at 02:11:177 have just a circle. It sounds a lot better like that. < I make it like that on purpose, it "feel" somehow nicer like that, imo...
01:41:706 (2) - 01:41:706 (2) - 01:43:824 (7) - There are a lot of these circles that are in between beats. move them forward just enough so they'll snap onto the beat just ahead of them them. Trust me. It'll sound amazing. (Note: only do this to the circles that are just in front of a slider) < ? I don't get it :/

Okay, fixed some... Thank you for mod ^^
This map still active right? It haven't got mod for a while :/
Come on, rank this map

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Source:Kyoukai no Kanata
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Swiftheart

42 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Swiftheart 2014-08-05T11:59:37+00:00

"Spicy Salsa"
Hey

Here's my mod for M4M:

Easy
01:16:472 (4,5) - I feel like it would look better if these two wouldn't touch because if the little slider don't touch each other, it'd look weird if the big would, This would actually look neat.Instead I added a circle
01:24:236 (1) - Here you could reverse the slider (Ctrl+G) so you wouldn't need to change the direction as you finish with the previous hitcircles. This change would need the rest of the kiai time elements to flip horizontally. So:nah
01:25:648 (2) - Ctrl+Gno
01:27:060 (3) - Ctrl+HI ganna keep it this way
01:28:472 (1) - Ctrl+Gnah
01:29:883 (2) - ^same
01:31:295 (3) - Ctrl+Hsorry
01:33:412 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^nah

Hard
00:30:589 (3) - Change the slider shape a little, so it looks good with the previous one: before ; Fixedafter
00:54:942 (5) - The opposite with this one, move the slider point one grid down, like this.Fixed
01:07:295 (5,6) - Adjust this one too, until it looks like this.Fixed
01:45:060 (3,4) - Same here, it'd look better like this.Made it better
02:44:001 (5) - Move one grid to the left.Okay!
04:19:295 (1) - Not sure if this is on purpose, but all the other sliders that had that kind of length, including the next slider are a tad longer than this one. Just switch to 1/12 and make the slider a little longer so it has a 1/12 snap more.Fixed

Lize's Hard*
01:10:119 (1,1,1,1,1) - Seems like too many New Combos in a short time, you might want to think this over again.
02:26:354 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
03:48:236 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^
01:32:000 (6,7,8) - This seems a little weird since the vocals don't coincide with the timing of those hitcircles and the song doesn't provide any hint too. Might want to think of a better solution.

That'd be all I could help with

Edit: I'd love to hear if my mod was helpful and what I could do better next time since I'm fairly new to modding :3[/quote] It was definitely a big help. Thanks

Thanks for the mod!

MeatloafCereal

78 posts

Joined April 2012

MeatloafCereal 2014-08-07T06:02:26+00:00

M4M on your queue!

[Metadata & General]

Consider putting " 境界の彼方 " as your source since you have 'kyoukai no kanata' already in the tags or just remove the tags and keep the current source
Make sure all contributors (Hanyuu_nanodesu, Mykaterasu, and CoroQuetz) to the mapset are included in the tags so that they come up when searching through beatmaps
01:28:471 - AImod found two identical red timing points keep one (or none)
I'm assuming you're thinking of adding custom hitsounds so i'll hold of those suggestions

[Easy*]

Since you have a decent rhythm for easy, most of the mod here will be purely personal personal aesthetics on your patterns, you're free to deny or vary the suggestions. Sliders don't have a good spread of variety throughout. I suggest you take advantage of long sliders that easy diffs usually have and experiment different shapes and patterns. The selling point of easy diffs comes from these creative shapes and patterns that the have, since they contain very few notes you have to make each one feel impactful. Good use of symmetry is also satisfying to play and fun to follow though a bit tricky to map, being aware of the X and Y axis will help very much.

00:36:236 - it might be better to have a new note here instead of a slider end because the vocals begin here
00:36:942 (1,2,3) - Imperfect blanket. It's a good idea to use existing circles as guidelines to make that perfect blanket (applies to other blankets too): http://puu.sh/aHPGi/66e832bd1d.jpg I bent (1) as well in the image for aesthetics
00:44:706 (1,2,3) - Didn't like the shape here, (3) felt cramped http://puu.sh/aHRTQ/d466319f29.jpg you can insert some kind of symmetry here
00:59:530 (5) - Clap at the beginning instead of the end of the slider
00:59:530 (5) - move to 252|88
01:05:177 (2,4) - stack them or space them apart
03:09:412 (3,1) - ^
01:33:412 (1,2,3,1,2) - 90 degree vertical and horizontal sliders dont flow very well. Curve the sliders and make them transition better between each other. I imagine the flow should kinda like this
02:05:883 (3,1) - distance between them is weird and (1) is almost offscreen and touching the score
02:52:471 (1) - it's kinda boring to play the same very long slider, use a spinner during 02:52:118 - 02:54:588
04:28:824 (1) - consider silencing the spinner by reducing the volume to 5%
03:46:118 (4) - I'm not sure of making this end at the red tick since the reverse arrow hits nothing if it does, maybe move it back to the white tick
Pretty nice diff, I have high hopes for it

[nanodesu's Insane*]

Great map

00:27:765 (1) - remove arrow and add slider at the blue tick that connects to (2)
00:54:942 (4) - Consider shortening it to end at the white tick since it has powerful clap at that point, maybe add a note at the blue to compensate
00:58:118 (5) - use a finish instead of a clap
01:02:353 (2) - add clap
01:10:118 - add timing point to change the sample set to drums
01:32:706 (1) - feels undermapped, maybe cut it up into more pieces like http://puu.sh/aI5L8/78caa19c00.jpg
02:23:353 (1,2) - shorten (1) so it ends at the blue tick, start (2) at the red tick. if you want, shorten (2) so it can end or have a reverse arrow at the white tick
02:26:353 - add timing point to change the sample set to drums
02:26:000 (5) - remove clap
02:46:824 (3,4) - Consider dividing this into two 1/4 sliders. It could allow some jumps that i think this somewhat lacks
03:42:589 (1) - remove clap or change 'Additions' into drum
03:48:236 - change sample set to drum
[Mykaterasu's Another*]

The most problematic one.It's really frustrating to play. I'm sure that the main problem is that I have no idea what's what. When i playtested, it was mostly me being confused and asking; "when did this repeating slider end?" "which direction is this supposed to go?" "what part of the music do these notes hit?" "what the ****?"

Anywayyy, i'm gonna list some stuff that i think are the lethal mistakes in terms of gameplay clarity:

AImod stuff

http://puu.sh/aI48W/e696e026b2.jpg

03:51:058 - 04:28:823 - This section made me think that the map wasn't even fully completed despite being listed being 'done~'. Inserting a break here is very wrong since 1. It takes up ~30 seconds 2. It's on Kiai section which is supposed to be the intense points of the song. Having such a long break on an important section was heartbreaking to watch
Notes that i had no idea what part of the music they were hitting. I spent a lot of time listening to the map at 25% and 50% speed. But couldn't really justify most of where the notes are hitting. ie 00:11:176 (2) , 00:33:588 (2,3,4,5,6) , 00:29:176 (1,2) . On the last example, the slider end is not even on the 1/12 snap divisor anymore. Most patterns placed feel like they were mapped solely for the sake of making a pattern and doesn't contribute to playing along to the music at all
The repeat sliders are really hard to read. I couldn't tell a lot of these apart ( 00:24:588 (1,2) in comparison to 00:21:764 (5) ). I couldn't even see the reverse arrows with the shape of the sliders.
Spacing between beats makes timing really confusing. It is fine to turn of distance snap on higher difficulty maps but spacing in this diff has been thrown out the window. 00:21:764 (5,1) - in this example, despite the use of an NC, I still confused it for the ~2.5x distancing of previous. In other cases such as 00:39:411 (4,5) , i would accidentally stream a note when it was(?) supposed to be single tapped.
Constant switching between 1/4 and and 1/3 makes it impossible for me to decide how fast I should be pressing/streaming. ie 00:35:705 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5)
Smaller less serious stuff:
Combos varies often throughout the diff from 3 to 15. A general rule of thumb is to put NC around each or every other downbeat or big white tick.
01:14:000 (6) - this may count as a burai slider and may be unrankable

At any rate, this has a lot of unrankable stuff that are kinda difficult for me to describe in detail.

I'll end my mod here. Mapset is so huge... like ~20 min of total play time, ~15+ mins of drain

Hope you find this helpful and Good Luck!

micchi_chi

764 posts

Joined July 2013

micchi_chi 2014-08-07T09:10:19+00:00

Mod reply

MeatloafCereal wrote:
[nanodesu's Insane*]

Great map < Thank you~ ^^

00:27:765 (1) - remove arrow and add slider at the blue tick that connects to (2) < Okay, done and removed (2)
00:54:942 (4) - Consider shortening it to end at the white tick since it has powerful clap at that point, maybe add a note at the blue to compensate < Okay
00:58:118 (5) - use a finish instead of a clap < Fixed
01:02:353 (2) - add clap < 'Kay
01:10:118 - add timing point to change the sample set to drums < Okay
01:32:706 (1) - feels undermapped, maybe cut it up into more pieces like http://puu.sh/aI5L8/78caa19c00.jpg < I think it would be fine for now
02:23:353 (1,2) - shorten (1) so it ends at the blue tick, start (2) at the red tick. if you want, shorten (2) so it can end or have a reverse arrow at the white tick < Okay, but I add a note on 02:24:589 instead of shortening 02:23:883 (2) - and make it into a reverse slider.
02:26:353 - add timing point to change the sample set to drums < Okay
02:26:000 (5) - remove clap < 'Kay
02:46:824 (3,4) - Consider dividing this into two 1/4 sliders. It could allow some jumps that i think this somewhat lacks < I like it the way it is now :/
03:42:589 (1) - remove clap or change 'Additions' into drum < removed the clap
03:48:236 - change sample set to drum < Okay

Thank you, changed most ^^

Update my map!!!

UPDATE

osu file format v13

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Mykaterasu

584 posts

Joined March 2014

Mykaterasu 2014-08-07T10:07:28+00:00

MeatloafCereal wrote:
[Mykaterasu's Another*]

The most problematic one.It's really frustrating to play. I'm sure that the main problem is that I have no idea what's what. When i playtested, it was mostly me being confused and asking; "when did this repeating slider end?" "which direction is this supposed to go?" "what part of the music do these notes hit?" "what the ****?"
I've had friends sightread this for the first time and they seemed to handle it really well. I'll need to get more feedback like this before I consider changes.

Anywayyy, i'm gonna list some stuff that i think are the lethal mistakes in terms of gameplay clarity:
AImod stuff
http://puu.sh/aI48W/e696e026b2.jpg
Fixed the unsnapped end. The rest is AImod going all OCD on me.
03:51:058 - 04:28:823 - This section made me think that the map wasn't even fully completed despite being listed being 'done~'. Inserting a break here is very wrong since 1. It takes up ~30 seconds 2. It's on Kiai section which is supposed to be the intense points of the song. Having such a long break on an important section was heartbreaking to watch.
You're right. It wasn't done. I'd never leave it like that. I didn't say it was done either.
*Mykaterasu miscommunicated with Swiftheart.

Notes that i had no idea what part of the music they were hitting. I spent a lot of time listening to the map at 25% and 50% speed. But couldn't really justify most of where the notes are hitting. ie 00:11:176 (2) ,
It was understandable, thinking about this one. It's inside the time signiture, but I guess it can't be justified. Fix!

00:33:588 (2,3,4,5,6) ,
Glitchy man has glitchy voice that is not in swing time, but in 1/4 beat snap. Justification complete.

00:29:176 (1,2) .
Your extensive listening forgot the swung drum part that is played here?

On the last example, the slider end is not even on the 1/12 snap divisor anymore.
I'll take the fall here, as I messed around in 1/8 before making this part ages ago, and I didn't change it to 1/12. Timing error. Fixed.

Most patterns placed feel like they were mapped solely for the sake of making a pattern and doesn't contribute to playing along to the music at all.
The patterns have more relevance than you think. There are patterns that refer to the video and there are patterns that refer to the lyrics. I will however admit that not all of them fit into these categories (That means maybe one or two fit with the theme. I'm lazy).

The repeat sliders are really hard to read. I couldn't tell a lot of these apart ( 00:24:588 (1,2) in comparison to 00:21:764 (5) ). I couldn't even see the reverse arrows with the shape of the sliders.
If it was easy to read, it wouldn't be "Another*". I'm sure it's very readable; but I'll agree that it's not clean. I don't want it to be clean though, to reflect on the nature and themes of the anime.

Spacing between beats makes timing really confusing. It is fine to turn of distance snap on higher difficulty maps but spacing in this diff has been thrown out the window. 00:21:764 (5,1) - in this example, despite the use of an NC, I still confused it for the ~2.5x distancing of previous. In other cases such as 00:39:411 (4,5) , i would accidentally stream a note when it was(?) supposed to be single tapped.
I grant you the knowledge that yes, these are ever-so-slightly misleading but this is to add difficulty. So I'm not changing these examples; I strongly believe they're fine how they are.
On a sidenote I'd like to say that snap was actually used almost all the time (3 exceptions) unless there were rotating patterns. If it's a swing to a downbeat, the snap is 1.0 or 1.5 and anything else is 2x.

Constant switching between 1/4 and and 1/3 makes it impossible for me to decide how fast I should be pressing/streaming. ie 00:35:705 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5)
So, The first bit in 1/4 comes after glitchy guy's vocals. You're still in 1/4 mode in your mind. No problems there. Going into swing after 00:36:235 - is actually really clean. I have 3 sliders (which are very forgiving on matters like this) and they are all swung. Then the rest of the swung section begins. All in all I'm not changing this either. I think I've given enough leniency.

Smaller less serious stuff:
Combos varies often throughout the diff from 3 to 15. A general rule of thumb is to put NC around each or every other downbeat or big white tick.
Combos were used to accentuate melodic structure and repetition, alongside new patterns. I've looked over them all and I think they are justifiable.

01:14:000 (6) - this may count as a burai slider and may be unrankable
Going from 1.7x to 2.0x slider speed isn't exactly super crazy. And most of the map is at a 2x distance snap anyway, the player is already used to this movement speed when you think about it (1.7 x 2). I still fixed that thing at the top to be extra sure.

At any rate, this has a lot of unrankable stuff that are kinda difficult for me to describe in detail.

I'll end my mod here. Mapset is so huge... like ~20 min of total play time, ~15+ mins of drain
Hope you find this helpful and Good Luck!

Cheers for the mod.

As a note for everyone else that wants to mod this, I recalculated slider lengths after adapting to this mod, and it screwed up a lot. but it had to be done. I've attempted to fix everything that I saw was off. In future mods, please bring any odd 1/12-ish time rhythms to my attention. Thanks.

Swiftheart

42 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Swiftheart 2014-08-07T18:14:13+00:00

M4M on your queue!

Metadata & General

Consider putting " 境界の彼方 " as your source since you have 'kyoukai no kanata' already in the tags or just remove the tags and keep the current source Fixed!
Make sure all contributors (Hanyuu_nanodesu, Mykaterasu, and CoroQuetz) to the mapset are included in the tags so that they come up when searching through beatmaps Fixed
01:28:471 - AImod found two identical red timing points keep one (or none)
I'm assuming you're thinking of adding custom hitsounds so i'll hold of those suggestions Fixed

Easy*

Since you have a decent rhythm for easy, most of the mod here will be purely personal personal aesthetics on your patterns, you're free to deny or vary the suggestions. Sliders don't have a good spread of variety throughout. I suggest you take advantage of long sliders that easy diffs usually have and experiment different shapes and patterns. The selling point of easy diffs comes from these creative shapes and patterns that the have, since they contain very few notes you have to make each one feel impactful. Good use of symmetry is also satisfying to play and fun to follow though a bit tricky to map, being aware of the X and Y axis will help very much.I understand but there are other maps that's looks just like mine and their ranked so I don't think I'm going to change it.

00:36:236 - it might be better to have a new note here instead of a slider end because the vocals begin hereFixed
00:36:942 (1,2,3) - Imperfect blanket. It's a good idea to use existing circles as guidelines to make that perfect blanket (applies to other blankets too): http://puu.sh/aHPGi/66e832bd1d.jpg I bent (1) as well in the image for aesthetics
Fixed
00:44:706 (1,2,3) - Didn't like the shape here, (3) felt cramped http://puu.sh/aHRTQ/d466319f29.jpg you can insert some kind of symmetry hereOkay
00:59:530 (5) - Clap at the beginning instead of the end of the sliderFixed
00:59:530 (5) - move to 252|88 Fixed
01:05:177 (2,4) - stack them or space them apartFixed
03:09:412 (3,1) - ^ Fixed
01:33:412 (1,2,3,1,2) - 90 degree vertical and horizontal sliders dont flow very well. Curve the sliders and make them transition better between each other. I imagine the flow should kinda like thisFixed
02:05:883 (3,1) - distance between them is weird and (1) is almost offscreen and touching the score Fixed
02:52:471 (1) - it's kinda boring to play the same very long slider, use a spinner during 02:52:118 - 02:54:588 Okay
04:28:824 (1) - consider silencing the spinner by reducing the volume to 5%
03:46:118 (4) - I'm not sure of making this end at the red tick since the reverse arrow hits nothing if it does, maybe move it back to the white tick
Pretty nice diff, I have high hopes for it

Good idea!

Thanks so much for the mod. I will mod yours tomorrow.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2014-08-07T18:27:53+00:00

dorillis

Lize's hard*:
00:18:589 (1) - Put a clap here I want this slider to have no hitsounds; it's a silent slider
03:36:942 - Put something here like a spinner. No, I'm just going to keep it a break
04:15:765 (3)- Move this back a notch. No change

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2014-08-07T18:35:00+00:00

Spicy Salsa

Lize's Hard*
01:10:119 (1,1,1,1,1) - Seems like too many New Combos in a short time, you might want to think this over again. You're right; changed
02:26:354 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^ Fixed
03:48:236 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^ Fixed
01:32:000 (6,7,8) - This seems a little weird since the vocals don't coincide with the timing of those hitcircles and the song doesn't provide any hint too. Might want to think of a better solution. Changed it to a slider

Thanks for the mod!

SkinnyJommy

788 posts

Joined January 2014

SkinnyJommy 2014-08-08T15:52:15+00:00

Hi, M4M from your queue

I'll only be doing 1 difficulty since my map has similar length to yours

[Mykaterasu's Another]

00:04:470 (3,4) - I think these are too close, consider moving 4 to 244, 320

00:09:058 (3) - Maybe you should lower hitsound volume here

00:10:235 (4) - umm, this slider is really far off the timeline, it should be like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1904753 if you slow down map to 25%, you can clearly hear its off

00:15:764 (5) - This will really confuse people, I like the idea though, maybe make the slider a little longer so its easier to read, in fact you just make it a kick slider like 00:21:764 (5) - I think this would be better

00:28:647 (4) - This will definitely confuse players

00:31:250 Change the snap divisor to 1/16, and put a note at 164, 84 I think this has a unique element to your beatmap, it should look like this
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1904808

00:34:470 (7) - Move this to 408, 284 to better complete the shape that this pattern makes

00:35:705 (1,2,3) - If you do this ^ you will have to rearrange these notes as well

00:41:529 (1) - Another really confusing slider

Im noticing a lot of SV changes that arent needed in this map

00:59:176 (2) - Pretty sure this slider is illegal

00:59:529 (3) - This one too

I'm just going to end the mod here, the same problems are just reoccurring.

This difficulty is very poorly mapped.

But I hope this helped you in some way

DizzeY

39 posts

Joined July 2013

DizzeY 2014-08-08T21:36:47+00:00

Hi~ M4M for your que

i'll only mod few diffs cus my map is pretty short. My Map: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/475705

Nya's Hard

00:40:119 (3) - NC

nanodesu's Insane

00:50:883 (2) - Make it start from a blue thick
01:14:353 (4,5) - Change it to a double
01:54:059 (5) - NC
01:57:412 (7) - ^
03:58:824 (4,5) - Seperate

Mykaterasu's Another

00:29:529 (2) - Hard to read, move it a little
00:30:411 (1) - Shorten it to a white thick
01:14:000 (6) - Lower the SV
02:09:411 (1) - Seperate
02:14:352 (9) - ^
04:26:705 (6) - NC

micchi_chi

764 posts

Joined July 2013

micchi_chi 2014-08-09T01:09:26+00:00

Mod reply....

TheDizzeY wrote:
[box=nanodesu's Insane]00:50:883 (2) - Make it start from a blue thick < On that part, the vocal actually started on 1/6 division
01:14:353 (4,5) - Change it to a double < I don't think that's needed, this is supposed to be insane...
01:54:059 (5) - NC < Why? I prefer NC on big white tick...
01:57:412 (7) - ^ ^
03:58:824 (4,5) - Seperate < No thanks ^^

Sorry, change nothing ~_~
But thanks for mod anyway :3

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2014-08-09T11:06:34+00:00

TheDizzeY

Nya's Hard
00:40:119 (3) - NC I didn't NC where you suggested, but I did add NC here: 00:41:530

Thanks for the mod!

Rirakusu

218 posts

Joined November 2013

Rirakusu 2014-08-10T07:34:27+00:00

From my queue.

[Easy]
1. 01:34:118 (2,3) , 02:19:295 (3,4) , 02:36:942 (4,1) , 03:45:412 (3,4) - Try not to stack in Easy diff. It isn't that visible.
2. 03:03:059 (1,2) - I think they are not identical? Identical fitting sliders look better.
3. 03:25:647 (1,2) - Try to perfect mirror them. See screenshot.

Screenshot

4. 03:59:177 (1,2) - I think this can be a possible blanket. Put the circle under the slider's curve and it looks pretty good.

[Hard]
1. Don't you think the sliders are a little too slow...? In my opinion, I think you can speed them up a little (maybe from 1.1 to 1.3) when there's vocal, and from 1.3 to 1.5 during Kiai.
2. 01:24:236 (2) - If you're trying to fit the vocal, you should curve it more - test it with 50% play speed and you will know why.

[Nya's Hard]
1. 02:44:707 (1,2) - If you really want to curve this slider, curve it more! I don't see the difference between it and a normal straight slider.
2. 02:58:471 (5) - Replace this with two sliders.
3. 03:23:883 (1) - I think you can try some patterns on this slider...give this a try? See screenshot. (I have to admit I'm not a good slider drawer but just a sample

Screenshot

Done!

Swiftheart

42 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Swiftheart 2014-08-10T10:48:49+00:00

jinhang_ang
From my queue.

[Easy]
1. 01:34:118 (2,3) , 02:19:295 (3,4) , 02:36:942 (4,1) , 03:45:412 (3,4) - Try not to stack in Easy diff. It isn't that visible. Fixed
2. 03:03:059 (1,2) - I think they are not identical? Identical fitting sliders look better. Okay
3. 03:25:647 (1,2) - Try to perfect mirror them. See screenshot. Fixed

Screenshot

4. 03:59:177 (1,2) - I think this can be a possible blanket. Put the circle under the slider's curve and it looks pretty good. Good idea

[Hard]
1. Don't you think the sliders are a little too slow...? In my opinion, I think you can speed them up a little (maybe from 1.1 to 1.3) when there's vocal, and from 1.3 to 1.5 during Kiai. Fixed
2. 01:24:236 (2) - If you're trying to fit the vocal, you should curve it more - test it with 50% play speed and you will know why. Fixed

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2014-08-10T11:07:00+00:00

jinhang_ang

[Nya's Hard]
1. 02:44:707 (1,2) - If you really want to curve this slider, curve it more! I don't see the difference between it and a normal straight slider. I straightened both sliders, since a curve would look too ugly
2. 02:58:471 (5) - Replace this with two sliders. Ok
3. 03:23:883 (1) - I think you can try some patterns on this slider...give this a try? See screenshot. (I have to admit I'm not a good slider drawer but just a sample I did change this slider's form, but in another wavy way. Your suggestion is too hard for me, but I think that slider idea is also great.
Screenshot

Thanks for modding this diff. Really appreciate it!

Mykaterasu

584 posts

Joined March 2014

Mykaterasu 2014-08-11T09:38:16+00:00

skinnyjimmy wrote:
Hi, M4M from your queue

I'll only be doing 1 difficulty since my map has similar length to yours

[Mykaterasu's Another]

00:04:470 (3,4) - I think these are too close, consider moving 4 to 244, 320
Good Idea.

00:09:058 (3) - Maybe you should lower hitsound volume here
It was already at 10, but lowering to 5 wouldn't hurt

00:10:235 (4) - umm, this slider is really far off the timeline, it should be like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1904753 if you slow down map to 25%, you can clearly hear its off
Leftover from the resizing. Good find.

00:15:764 (5) - This will really confuse people, I like the idea though, maybe make the slider a little longer so its easier to read, in fact you just make it a kick slider like 00:21:764 (5) - I think this would be better
Didn't think of that one. Great Idea.

00:28:647 (4) - This will definitely confuse players
Not anymore.

00:31:250 Change the snap divisor to 1/16, and put a note at 164, 84 I think this has a unique element to your beatmap, it should look like this
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1904808
I think I'll pass on this one. I'm saving stuff like that for the last chorus.

00:34:470 (7) - Move this to 408, 284 to better complete the shape that this pattern makes
00:35:705 (1,2,3) - If you do this ^ you will have to rearrange these notes as well
Redid the pattern altogether.

00:41:529 (1) - Another really confusing slider.
All sliders of this similarity have been addressed. It seems I'm not allowed to be messy for effect.

Im noticing a lot of SV changes that arent needed in this map.
True. I like them though. I can scale the patterns and remove the SV changes if it bugs too many people.

00:59:176 (2) - Pretty sure this slider is illegal
00:59:529 (3) - This one too
This was supposed to be fixed in the latest version. Something happened.
I'm just going to end the mod here, the same problems are just reoccurring.

This difficulty is very poorly mapped.
Not anymore. It seems I've given an older version to Swiftheart by accident. But it did get through to the real thing.

But I hope this helped you in some way
Your condescension is greatly appreciated.

Nines

392 posts

Joined May 2013

Nines 2014-08-13T03:23:44+00:00

Yahello~! Sorry, I haven't been modding the past 2 days... school's about to start and I've been studying for placement tests D:

Anyways, here's my mod! I couldn't mod the Another because I find it way too hard to read. My mod would a be a hefty one that would most likely end remapping the entire thing, which defeats the purpose. So, I apologize for that too.

[nanodesu's Insane*]
This feels like a Hard, でしょう?

00:17:177 (1,2) - Fix this blanket (use approach circles as a guide)
00:18:412 - I think you're missing out on a beat right here. Maybe making the slider a repeating slider or something?
00:22:118 (1,2) - Fix this blanket
00:22:824 (3,4) - Notice how this blanket is slightly off, make it perfect
00:35:883 (6) - Straighten this so that it leads directly to the next slider.
like this
00:37:647 (6,7) - Fix this blanket
00:56:530 (2,3) - Make this a better blanket
02:00:589 (6) - It doesn't look nice with this under the slider end. It looks cramped.
02:11:530 (4,2) - Fix 2's blanket with 4's slider end.
02:21:412 (3,4) - Fix this blanket

Everything after this seems... more refined than the rest of this difficulty. Did you step it up the final stretch? hahhaahaha

I will update this in a few hours for modding of other diff's. I felt bad it has been a while since i've modded!

micchi_chi

764 posts

Joined July 2013

micchi_chi 2014-08-13T07:53:10+00:00

Tsuchimikado wrote:
[nanodesu's Insane*]
This feels like a Hard, でしょう? < It is right? Because I think if I try to make it harder, it would seem overmapped... But, comparing to the Hard(s) I think it can be considered Insane :3 (Or maybe Hard+)

00:17:177 (1,2) - Fix this blanket (use approach circles as a guide) < Okay
00:18:412 - I think you're missing out on a beat right here. Maybe making the slider a repeating slider or something? < I'll leave that part empty as some kind of variation :3
00:22:118 (1,2) - Fix this blanket < Fixed
00:22:824 (3,4) - Notice how this blanket is slightly off, make it perfect < 'Kay
00:35:883 (6) - Straighten this so that it leads directly to the next slider. < Okay
like this
00:37:647 (6,7) - Fix this blanket < Fixed
00:56:530 (2,3) - Make this a better blanket < Okay
02:00:589 (6) - It doesn't look nice with this under the slider end. It looks cramped. < Okay, moved it
02:11:530 (4,2) - Fix 2's blanket with 4's slider end. < Okay, I'm trying...
02:21:412 (3,4) - Fix this blanket < Fixed

Everything after this seems... more refined than the rest of this difficulty. Did you step it up the final stretch? hahhaahaha < What? o-o I don't get the joke, lol XD

Okay, fixed most
Thank you for mod ^^
Did some self modding... Fixed some hitsounds and stuff
And now I shall leave...
Physics test is... something -3-

UPDATE

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Daisy.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 72942
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 205647,259295
DistanceSpacing: 2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.4

[Metadata]
Title:Daisy*
TitleUnicode:Daisy*
Artist:STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION
ArtistUnicode:STEREO DIVE FOUNDATION
Creator:Swiftheart
Version:nanodesu's Insane*
Source:Kyoukai no Kanata
Tags:anime kyoukai no kanata full version ending
BeatmapID:451221
BeatmapSetID:183460

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7.5
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:1

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332,176,234236,2,0,P|320:128|352:64,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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428,220,234942,2,0,P|444:268|492:308,1,90
412,132,235471,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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428,240,239353,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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305,26,242000,1,8,0:0:0:0:
172,148,242353,6,0,P|128:168|80:164,2,90,4|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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200,76,243412,2,0,P|244:120|228:200,1,135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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360,348,245000,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,268471,12,0,269883,0:0:0:0:

Swiftheart

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Topic Starter

Swiftheart 2014-08-15T17:26:17+00:00

UPDATED!

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2014-08-22T01:03:31+00:00

Yo yo Swiftheart. Sorry about the detailed and boring mod. You'll sleep when you'll make changes to the map.

General

You don't need to add "anime" in the tags, since it'll write it in the beatmap page (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/193980 for example; it'll say in the genre).
In your folder, delete the .osb files. This type of file is only used when there's a storyboard.
It's preferred to have a 16:9 (1366 x 768) background. So I tweaked the background. Hope you'll like it: http://puu.sh/b0Giq/05ebb14037.jpg
Widescreen Support is only used for storyboard, which in this case, you can simply untick the option. It makes storyboard into widescreen.
According to the AiMod, Hard* and Mykaterasu's Another* has different timing, but you should go with Mykaterasu's Another's timing, since the red point starts on the first beat. So I suggest to move the red point that's on 00:13:648 to the first beat, which is 00:02:353 . Also, for the Hard*, you added two timing points, which are unnecessary. So you need to remove them in order to get the same timing through the mapset.
Finish the second kiai mode to 02:54:589 because the beat there is the final beat for the chorus.
I think it needs a normal difficulty to complete more the mapset. Or you can turn the Easy* into a Normal* (it's just a suggestion. It's a little note if you make other beatmaps.

Easy*

Why does Easy only have normal sampleset? Normal sampleset is too loud, so it doesn't fit with this music. Use the soft sampleset, like in the other difficulties.
00:16:471 (3) - Add a new combo.
00:17:883 (1) - I suggest to remove the repeat and follow the rhythm given below in order to get the rhythm constant. It sounded a little weird.
SPOILER

(If you don't know what to do with this image, catch me in-game and I'm willing to help you.)
00:29:883 (3) - This slider is weird when listening to it, as it doesn't follow the rhythm. You can replace the slider by adding two hitcircles; one on 00:29:883 - and one on 00:30:589 . Or, add a note at 00:29:883 , then add a 1/1 slider on 00:30:589 and another on 00:32:000 as you did for the beginning of the map. It fits better with the music.
00:36:236 (1) - This note breaks the distance snap, which breaks the degree of the difficulty. Players will get confused they're going to hit the note, because easy and normal difficulty have a strict distance snap, so you have to follow it. So, you must the note to somewhere that will get a distance of 1.00x to the previous and next notes.
00:36:942 (1) - Remove the new combo so it could stay on the new combo consistency. Also, try loosen the curve. In my opinion, when th curve is too much curved, the slider will be ugly.
00:38:353 (3) - First, a blanket with 00:36:942 (1) is more prettier. To make the blanket, go to 00:37:765 -, and you'll see the yellow ring on 00:36:942 (1) . It'll touch on the border of 00:38:353 (3) -, and you can make a blanket.
SPOILER
Second, the repeat makes the rhythm really weird when you listen to it. I suggest to remove the repeat, then add a note at 00:39:765 . It should be better.
00:44:706 - First, flip 00:44:706 (1) vertically and move it to x:83 y:80. Second, move 00:45:765 (2) to x:157 y:120, then move 00:46:118 (3) to x:241 y:108. That way, the flow will be better; 00:44:706 (1) could shoot naturally to the next object, and 00:44:000 (3) will do the same, since it'll make a circular flow.
00:50:353 (1) - The distance is higher than 1.00x to the previous object. Like 00:36:236 (1) -, the distance snap should be constant. So move the note to x:460 y:326 so that 00:48:942 (2) could shoot to the next object naturally. You'll need to make modifications for 00:51:059 (2,3) . Also, I have to point out that 00:51:765 (3,1,2) has a different distance to each other; different than 1.00x.
00:57:412 (4) - I suggest to remove the repeat so that you could add a note or a slider on the strong beat (which is at 00:58:824 - ).
01:03:765 (1) - Remove the new combo, then add it to 01:05:177 (2) .
01:05:177 - Move 01:05:177 (2) to x:348 y:171 , 01:05:883 (3) to x:512 y:202, then 01:06:589 (4) to x:358 y:273. 01:03:765 (1) will naturally shoot to the next object, and 01:05:177 (2,4) makes a blanket pattern, which is pretty.
01:12:942 (1) - On the head of the slider, add a finish hitsound because this is where the kiai mode/chorus starts, so the finish could introduce the chorus.
01:27:059 (3) - I suggest to move this note to x:451 y:278 and 01:28:471 (1) to x:348 y:143 to get the flow more natural. You'll need to make changes to the next objects. For example, move 01:29:883 (2) to x:181 y:312. For 01:31:295 (3) -, loosen the curve; first, move the slider to x:479 y:208; move the second node (little square on the body) to x:492 y:312 and the last node to x:483 y:379. And then, move 01:33:412 (1) to x:359 y:87 and 01:34:118 (2) to x:284 y:236. It'll fixed the distance.
01:53:883 (2) - Remove the finish on the head.
02:12:236 (1) - and 02:13:647 (2) - Try flipping each of those slider vertically (Ctrl + J). They'll indicate the where's the next object.
02:16:471 (1) - Remove the new combo.
02:52:471 (1) - This spinner doesn't fit nor follow with music to be honest. I suggest to use the same rhythm as 01:35:883 (1,2,3) .
02:59:530 (1) - Remove the new combo.
03:04:471 (2) - Remove the finish on the head.
03:08:000 (1) - ^, and add one to 03:08:706 (2) .
03:15:765 (2) - Flip it vertically. It makes a better flow for 03:15:059 (1,3) .
03:17:177 (1) - You should make a slider that'll make the flow more better. Maybe a straight slider fits.
03:36:236 (2,3) - Replace those two notes by a 1/1 slider. It'll have the same rhythm as you to 03:32:000 (2) , since it has the same part.
03:38:706 (2,3,4,5,6) - This is different than the others; a little hard? Because of this, it broke the rhythm as you did to 03:30:589 from 03:34:824 . You should use the same rhythm as 03:30:589 (1,2,3) .
03:42:589 (1) - Same thing about "distance must be constant".
03:45:412 (3) - Add a new combo to follow the combo consistency.
03:56:706 (1,2,3) - A little too hard. And they don't follow the same rhythm as the others. The other uses the 1/1 rhythm, while this one uses a 1/2 rhythm.
04:15:059 (3) - The corner is outside of the gridset. You should bring the slider lower.
04:28:824 (1) - Finish the spinner at 04:30:589 . There's no beat after 04:30:589 . Also, you should silent the end of the spinner by adding an inheriting (green) point at 04:30:589 .

Use clap hitsound on the 2/1 and 4/1 white ticks (2/1 is meant to say that it's the white tick after the long white tick (a downbeat). 4/1 is meant to say that it's the white tick before the downbeat).

Here's a list of objects and tick that you must add a finish:
SPOILER
1. 00:13:647 (1) - On the head. It introduce the first beat.
2. 00:36:236 -
3. 00:58:824 -
4. 01:24:236 (1) - On the head. The vocal is strong here.
5. 01:34:824 (3) - On the tail.
6. 01:37:647 (3) - ^
7. 02:03:059 (4) - ^
8. 02:20:000 (4) - ^
9. 02:29:177 (1) - On the head.
10. 02:48:942 (4) - On the tail.
11. 03:17:177 (1) - On the head.
12. 03:51:059 (1) - ^
13. 04:15:059 (3) - On the tail
14. 04:19:295 (1) - On the head.
15. 04:24:236 (1) - On the tail.

Hard*

00:15:060 (3,4,5) - Little stuff. Try making a better triangle ( 00:15:060 (3,5) should be on the same line).
00:17:530 (3) - If you move this note to where 00:15:766 (5) is (stack with this note), the flow will get more natural. You'll need to make modification on 00:17:883 (4) .
00:18:942 (5) - This slider doesn't sound right, since it doesn't have the same rhythm as the first part of the map (00:13:647 to 00:18:589 - ). I suggest to replace the head to a note, then a 1/1 slider at 00:19:295 . Then, follow the rhythm shown under:
SPOILER
The (5) starts at 00:18:942 , and the last 1/1 starts at 00:22:118 which ends at 00:22:471 .
This rhythm follows better with the music. Sometimes, 1/1 sliders on a red tick don't sound very well.
00:25:295 (1,2) - Move these more somewhere on the top of the tail of 00:24:236 (4) . It'll follow the curve, because the slider shoots to somewhere up to the next object, but the next object is on the right of the tail.
SPOILER
00:27:766 (6) - You've this combo pattern, so you must follow. Here, it lands on a downbeat (long white tick). Since the pattern is "new combo on each downbeat", you must also add one.
00:28:825 (1) - Move the slider to x:217 y:296, and move the last node to x:153 y:240 so it follows the curve of the previous object, which is the slider. You'll need to do modification on the next slider. Try something like in the image below:
SPOILER
00:33:766 (1) - Move the 2nd node to x:223 y:130 and the last to x:203 y:151 to get a better blanket.
00:36:236 (4) - Add a new combo.
00:38:707 (1) - Remove the new combo.
00:44:707 (4) - Add a new combo.
00:47:177 (7,1) - Try this pattern.
SPOILER
The current one doesn't really makes the flow well. It goes to a straight line, but there's a curve at 00:46:119 (6) , so a circular flow fits.
00:50:353 (4) - Reduce the length of the slider so it could be a 1/2 slider (end the slider at 00:50:706 - ). It ends on vocal which follows better the track. Also, add a new combo.
00:52:824 (1) - Remove the new combo, and add one to 00:53:177 (2) .
00:55:647 (6) - The slider's head on the previous slider breaks the flow. Another thing is that the slider doesn't sound well with the music. A hitcircle on 00:55:647 and a 1/1 slider on 00:56:000 . It follows better with the vocal.
01:00:589 (3) - Move this note to x:413 y:213 so it could have the same distance between the previous and next objects.
01:01:295 (1) - This slider skips the downbeat, ans sounds weird. I see the pattern you're doing with 01:02:706 (3) , but in my opinion, the rhythm takes priority, then the patterns. Try this pattern:
SPOILER
(1) is on 01:01:647 -, (2) on 01:02:353 -, then you can figure out where will you place (3). I also think of making this pattern:
SPOILER
01:05:530 (3) - Reduce the slider so it could go on 01:05:883 . It follows better the vocals.
01:07:295 (5) - Move this to x:422 y:183 so it could have a same distance snap (1.00x). Add also a new combo.
01:09:765 (1) - Remove the new combo, and add one on 01:10:119 (2) .
01:17:177 (2) - Put this note in the middle of 01:16:472 (1,3) , then move them so it could have the same distance to each other (1.00x). It'll avoid the "anti distance snap" (if I can say). Also, make a better blanket with 01:17:177 (2) :
SPOILER
01:18:236 (4) - Same thing about "the slider doesn't fit with the music". Replace the head by a note, and a 1/1 slider on the downbeat.
01:20:706 (1) - I suggest to end the slider at on 01:21:059 , and make the wave a little better:
SPOILER
I don't think that 01:21:295 doesn't have a beat, so it's pointless to map to a tick with no beat.
01:22:472 (3) - Put this in the middle of 01:21:413 (2,4) , switch the head and tail (Ctrl + G) on 01:22:824 (4) . I think it won't get too confusing. 01:22:472 (3) is next the tail of 01:22:824 (4) - , so it's a little tricky. And I think a jump for 01:23:883 (1) fits with the music.
01:23:883 (1) - Remove the new combo, and add one on 01:24:236 (1) . It follows the new combo pattern.
01:28:824 (1,2) - Switch the new combos; 01:28:824 (1) shouldn't have a new combo, but 01:29:883 (2) is need.
01:29:883 (2,3) - These sliders don't sound right, the fact that they end on the 6/6 tick (01:30:471 -). Please end them on the red tick.
01:31:295 (4) - Be careful. The curve is too much outside. So move 01:31:295 (4,5,6) to the left. Also, add a new combo.
01:34:825 (1) - Use the distance snap here, and try to make a better wave. Four points is enough.
SPOILER
Also, remove the new combo, and one on 01:35:883 (2) .
01:36:942 (5) - Move this to x:165 y:225 to make 01:36:236 (3,4,5) an equilateral triangle, and rotate using the Rotate by... with the Selection Centre ticked, and messing with the slider (the one under the "Enter an angle to rotate by:") to a number that'll make the slider wrapped to 01:36:589 (4) .
01:41:177 (3) - Add a new combo.
01:43:648 (1) - Move to x:413 y:245 to make a little jump. Also, remove the new combo, and add one on 01:44:000 (2) .
01:46:472 (5) - The slider sounds weird here. You should add a note on 01:46:471 , then a 1/1 slider on 01:46:824 . The rhythm should follow better.

01:47:530 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try this pattern. The current one is "putting a same pattern two times in a same place", which it's a little boring, and repetitive.

SPOILER

To use or read the code, do File->Open .osu in Notepad, and go under [HitObjects]. Each line is an object, and has a number that indicates the ms (to view the ms, go in the design tab. You'll see it in the up-right area). For example, a note on 01:47:530 is 107530(ms) . You should find the number if you use the Find tool (Ctrl + F)(the ms number is the one after the second comma). Now, find the number 107530, and replace the next five to the code below:
168,168,107530,5,0,0:0:0:0:
254,108,107883,1,0,0:0:0:0:
266,212,108236,1,0,0:0:0:0:
325,298,108589,2,0,P|359:255|371:192,2,105.000004005432,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,287,109647,6,0,P|161:284|103:299,1,105.000004005432
30,355,110353,2,0,P|13:310|27:238,1,105.000004005432
If you have any difficulties, skip this suggestion and poke me in-game, and I'll try to help to the best I can.

01:55:295 (5) - Add a new combo.
02:00:942 (4) - ^
02:03:766 (1) - The tail is too much outside. Try moving 02:02:707 (6,1,2) on the left.
02:05:883 (3) - Move this at x:295 y:284 to get the distance between this and the previous object at 1.00x.
02:06:942 (4) - Add a new combo.
02:12:589 (5) - ^
02:13:647 (1) - Remove the new combo, and add one on 02:15:413 (3) .
02:21:060 (4) - Add a new combo.
Try to find the notes where you should add a new combo. Hint: add a new combo on each downbeat, or on a tick after the downbeat, like the red tick, if it's occupied by a slider.
02:33:412 (1) - Try putting the curve down:
SPOILER
This will avoid the distance snap inconsistency.
02:34:824 (1,2) - Same thing about "end the sliders on the red tick".
02:45:765 - The slider doesn't sound good. Try this:
SPOILER

You'll need to modify 02:47:530 (3) .
02:48:589 (4) - Again, this slider doesn't follow very well with the music.
Try to find slider like the one above (slider that lands on a red tick which doesn't sound fitting with the music). 02:52:118 (4) is okay, since it follows the vocal, but not 03:11:177 (4) .
03:08:707 (1) - The distance suddenly goes lower than 1.00x. Try to use the constant distance to every notes. Not every notes, since the difficulty won't by that hard. You can make jumps, but the jumps must fit with the music. For example, 03:05:177 (5,6) can have a jump, since 03:05:882 has a new and strong beat.
03:08:707 (1,2) - Same thing here. You should end them on the red tick.
03:56:706 (1,2) - ^
04:04:119 (5) - Move this to x:372 y:112 so it could be in the center of 04:03:060 (4,6) , and a higher distance between this and 04:03:060 (4,6) fits well.
04:11:177 (4) - The tail is too outside. Try a curve:
SPOILER
You'll need to make change to 04:12:235 (5,6) .
04:15:060 (2) - Woah. The curve touches the HP life bar. Move it more down.
04:22:471 (6,7) - You can improve the blanket.
Sorry if I didn't mention the hitsounds. If you can, try to find them.

Nya's Hard

We've met again.

00:18:589 (1) - Move the tail more on the up. You can make a blanket with the next object. Also, remove the new combo.
00:24:589 (1) - Sometimes, 1/1 sliders on a red tick makes the rhythm really weird; it sounds bizarre. I suggest to add a note on 00:24:589 , then a 1/1 slider on 00:24:942 . Also, when you add the slider on the downbeat (long white tick), add a new combo.
00:22:118 (5,1) - Swap the new combos. Since you have a "add new combo on a downbeat" pattern, you should follow it.
00:27:766 (7) - Add a new combo, and remove the new combo on 00:28:825 (1) .
00:30:236 (3) - I suggest to remove the repeat. The repeat isn't "enough" on a strong / important beat. A 1/1 slider fits would fits, since the head of a slider would "represent" more the beat. Also, it really doesn't fit with the beats in the music. So, add a note on 00:30:236 and a 1/1 on 00:30:589 will fit with the rhythm. When you created the slider, add also a new combo.
00:33:060 (1,3) - Swap the new combo; (1) becomes (8), and (3) becomes (1).
00:33:766 (4) - Move this to x:113 y:62 to create a blanket pattern with 00:33:413 (3) . I think it's more pretty.
00:36:942 (3) - The curve is too rounded (you can see that the head and tail are overlapping, and you can see the hard edges on the slider border which it's, for me, a little ugly). Try loosen more the curve so it could make a normal curve. Also, the curve should be facing down, since 00:36:236 (1,2) makes the flow go down, then 00:38:001 (4,5) goes up.
00:38:707 (1) - Move the last node to somewhere at x:249 y:27) so it could shoot to the next object better.
00:39:413 (2) - Move the slider to x:190 y:174 to make 00:38:707 (1,2,3) an equilateral triangle.
00:41:530 (1) - Same thing here. The slider sounds weird when it's on the red tick. I suggest to add a note on 00:41:530 -, a 1/2 slider on 00:41:883 to make a better rhythm.
00:50:000 (1) - Remove the new combo, and add one on 00:50:354 (3) .
00:53:530 - Replace the slider by adding a note on 00:53:530 , and a 1/2 slider on 00:53:883 . It follows with the vocals.
01:01:295 - Same thing as above; a note on the red tick, and a slider on the downbeat. Also, add a new combo on the new slider.
01:04:472 (6,1) - Swap the new combos to stay on the same new combo pattern. Also, in my opinion, the stack wouldn't fit with the music, since the beat on 01:04:471 is stronger. So try moving it to somewhere else.
01:10:119 (1) - The distance is too high between this and the previous object; the players will get confuse because 01:10:648 (2,1) makes an illusion that it's the same distance as 01:09:766 (4,1) . I suggest to move each objects in 01:10:648 (2,1,2,3) more further to avoid the confusion.
01:12:942 (1) - Missing finish on the head.
01:16:118 (2,3) - Loosen the bezier curve. The head and tail are overlapping to each other.
01:24:236 (1) - Loosen the curve. Same reason as above.
01:26:001 (4) - ^
01:29:177 (1) - Remove the new combo. There was no need.
01:32:707 (1,2) - I don't like this pattern because the flow is broken (after releasing the slider 01:32:707 (1) , you have to go down to get to the next object), and the heads are overlapping which makes a little ugly. I suggest to make something like in the image below:
SPOILER
In my opinion, the jumps fit.
01:34:825 (4,5,6,7,8) - I suggest to compress (move the notes closer to each ohter) more the stream. That way, players won't move a lot the cursor. I mean, in insane difficulties, compressed stream are more better because they can identify that it's a stream more faster.
01:59:883 (4) - Remove the bezier point (red point). The slider ball suddenly goes up at the end, so it's a little weird.
02:10:825 (3,4,5) - Same thing about "compressed stream".
02:19:648 (1) - Weird shape. I was thinking of a bird shape:
SPOILER
02:29:177 (1) - The head and tail are too close and they overlap. I suggest to turn the bezier point to a normal point to make a curve so it could smooth the flow.
02:38:001 (2) - Move this note to x:74 y:138. It'll be on the same distance between this and 02:37:648 (1,3) .
02:39:765 (5,6,7) - Same thing about "compressed stream".
02:40:471 (1,2) - Loosen the curve to make them prettier.
02:44:706 (1,2) - Same thing as 01:32:707 (1,2) .
02:57:765 (2,3,4) - Compress the stream.
02:58:471 (5,6) - Same thing as 01:32:707 (1,2) .
03:06:589 (5,6) - Making the same slider shape as 03:05:883 (4) :
SPOILER
03:08:707 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Compress the streams.
03:09:412 (1) - Remove the new combo.
03:10:118 (1) - ^
03:11:354 (1) - Move this somewhere that 03:10:118 (1) could better shoot (gets a better flow).
03:19:295 (3) - Why the sudden distance change? Players will get confused if they play this. Move this to x:188 y:122.
03:21:060 (2,3,4) - Compress the stream.
03:23:883 (8) - Make a better wave. Four points is enough:
SPOILER
04:04:118 (5) - Same thing as 01:32:707 (1,2) .
04:06:589 (2) - Move this more to the right to avoid the overlap.
04:08:707 (2,3,4,2,3,4) - Compress the streams.
04:17:883 - A spinner that starts there to 04:19:295 . The end feels empty.

I think you slept there. I'll have to stop here. Sorry for my laziness Actually, just a thing for Mykaterasu's Another*. 00:09:058 (3) - A slider like this is unrankable (I think) because it resembles as a note.
Well, that's all (woah, seems my mod takes a whole page). Good Luck on ranking this map. Poke me in-game if you have any questions.

aigoh

398 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2014-08-23T14:22:42+00:00

Other difficulties for standard look more polished compared to Mykaterasu's Another, so I'll focus on this.

Mykaterasu's Another*
Generally, this map needs distance snapping, improvement on flow, and organization.
Organization: "blanket" the notes, as mentioned in a previous comment. Also, avoid using pretty sliders.
Flow: Stick to distance snapping as much as possible. Also, refrain from over-using sliders like the ones in 00:30:411, and 00:33:058, and 00:41:529, and 00:44:352. These sliders make it harder for the players to hit the next note. Unless you are 1000% sure that these sliders are appropriate, don't use them.

00:08:705 (2,3) - too far apart.
00:15:764 (5) - change to linear slider.
00:29:529 (2) - weird position, so it's hard to read. move to the end of slider (1).
00:33:058 (1) - it makes it hard to hit (2). I recommend getting rid of it and placing single notes.
Also, (2) is too far away! you should distance snap it.
00:36:588 (1,2,3) - I like it!
00:41:529 (12) - extend the length
00:51:588 (7,8,9,10) - confusing pattern
00:56:000 (1-12) - confusing pattern. use distance snapping
01:12:588 (9,8,10) - too far apart
02:15:588 (3) - weird positioning
02:17:000 (9,10) - need distance snapping
02:20:588 (4,1) - distance snap
04:06:941 (2) - distance snap
04:11:882 - 04:12:941 - notes are clumped together, so it's difficult to read.

Mykaterasu

584 posts

Joined March 2014

Mykaterasu 2014-08-23T20:19:16+00:00

mangocurry wrote:
Other difficulties for standard look more polished compared to Mykaterasu's Another, so I'll focus on this.

Mykaterasu's Another*
Generally, this map needs distance snapping, improvement on flow, and organization.
Organization: "blanket" the notes, as mentioned in a previous comment. Also, avoid using pretty sliders.
Flow: Stick to distance snapping as much as possible. Also, refrain from over-using sliders like the ones in 00:30:411, and 00:33:058, and 00:41:529, and 00:44:352. These sliders make it harder for the players to hit the next note. Unless you are 1000% sure that these sliders are appropriate, don't use them.
I see your point, but this section is intended to be a break section, and in theory the pattern it is not too different to hold sliders. Either way they have purpose.

00:08:705 (2,3) - too far apart.Wouldn't be hard if it was too regular. Since the number of objects is fairly low, I'll pass, but I will make it a tad more consistant.
00:15:764 (5) - change to linear slider. Good Idea.
00:29:529 (2) - weird position, so it's hard to read. move to the end of slider (1). Moved to a better position
00:33:058 (1) - it makes it hard to hit (2). I recommend getting rid of it and placing single notes. Ended the hold slider with a circle to clear up any misconceptions on the length of said hold. This should make it clearer and easier.
Also, (2) is too far away! you should distance snap it. Another is Another because difficulty. I understand, but no thanks.
00:36:588 (1,2,3) - I like it! Cheers
00:41:529 (12) - extend the length Don't see why...
00:51:588 (7,8,9,10) - confusing pattern You're just tapping to the standard beat...
00:56:000 (1-12) - confusing pattern. use distance snapping Intended for difficulty. Supposed to grow and rotate and then return to normal.
01:12:588 (9,8,10) - too far apart Agreed, seems a little unfair to stray from normal distancing that I have in the chorus.
02:15:588 (3) - weird positioning Oops, fixed.

02:17:000 (9,10) - need distance snapping
02:20:588 (4,1) - distance snap
04:06:941 (2) - distance snap
04:11:882 - 04:12:941 - notes are clumped together, so it's difficult to read.
I've looked over my use of varied distance snap lengths, and I've come to the conclusion that it's very mathematical. However it's also very wrong. I've taken a more standard (and therefore boring) approach.

Swiftheart

42 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Swiftheart 2014-08-24T14:36:17+00:00

[quote="sheela901"]Yo yo Swiftheart. Sorry about the detailed and boring mod. You'll sleep when you'll make changes to the map.

General

You don't need to add "anime" in the tags, since it'll write it in the beatmap page (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/193980 for example; it'll say in the genre).
In your folder, delete the .osb files. This type of file is only used when there's a storyboard.
It's preferred to have a 16:9 (1366 x 768) background. So I tweaked the background. Hope you'll like it: http://puu.sh/b0Giq/05ebb14037.jpg
Widescreen Support is only used for storyboard, which in this case, you can simply untick the option. It makes storyboard into widescreen.
According to the AiMod, Hard* and Mykaterasu's Another* has different timing, but you should go with Mykaterasu's Another's timing, since the red point starts on the first beat. So I suggest to move the red point that's on 00:13:648 to the first beat, which is 00:02:353 . Also, for the Hard*, you added two timing points, which are unnecessary. So you need to remove them in order to get the same timing through the mapset.
Finish the second kiai mode to 02:54:589 because the beat there is the final beat for the chorus.
I think it needs a normal difficulty to complete more the mapset. Or you can turn the Easy* into a Normal* (it's just a suggestion. It's a little note if you make other beatmaps.

Easy*

Why does Easy only have normal sampleset? Normal sampleset is too loud, so it doesn't fit with this music. Use the soft sampleset, like in the other difficulties.
00:16:471 (3) - Add a new combo.
00:17:883 (1) - I suggest to remove the repeat and follow the rhythm given below in order to get the rhythm constant. It sounded a little weird.
SPOILER

(If you don't know what to do with this image, catch me in-game and I'm willing to help you.)
00:29:883 (3) - This slider is weird when listening to it, as it doesn't follow the rhythm. You can replace the slider by adding two hitcircles; one on 00:29:883 - and one on 00:30:589 . Or, add a note at 00:29:883 , then add a 1/1 slider on 00:30:589 and another on 00:32:000 as you did for the beginning of the map. It fits better with the music.
00:36:236 (1) - This note breaks the distance snap, which breaks the degree of the difficulty. Players will get confused they're going to hit the note, because easy and normal difficulty have a strict distance snap, so you have to follow it. So, you must the note to somewhere that will get a distance of 1.00x to the previous and next notes.
00:36:942 (1) - Remove the new combo so it could stay on the new combo consistency. Also, try loosen the curve. In my opinion, when th curve is too much curved, the slider will be ugly.
00:38:353 (3) - First, a blanket with 00:36:942 (1) is more prettier. To make the blanket, go to 00:37:765 -, and you'll see the yellow ring on 00:36:942 (1) . It'll touch on the border of 00:38:353 (3) -, and you can make a blanket.
SPOILER
Second, the repeat makes the rhythm really weird when you listen to it. I suggest to remove the repeat, then add a note at 00:39:765 . It should be better.
00:44:706 - First, flip 00:44:706 (1) vertically and move it to x:83 y:80. Second, move 00:45:765 (2) to x:157 y:120, then move 00:46:118 (3) to x:241 y:108. That way, the flow will be better; 00:44:706 (1) could shoot naturally to the next object, and 00:44:000 (3) will do the same, since it'll make a circular flow.
00:50:353 (1) - The distance is higher than 1.00x to the previous object. Like 00:36:236 (1) -, the distance snap should be constant. So move the note to x:460 y:326 so that 00:48:942 (2) could shoot to the next object naturally. You'll need to make modifications for 00:51:059 (2,3) . Also, I have to point out that 00:51:765 (3,1,2) has a different distance to each other; different than 1.00x.
00:57:412 (4) - I suggest to remove the repeat so that you could add a note or a slider on the strong beat (which is at 00:58:824 - ).
01:03:765 (1) - Remove the new combo, then add it to 01:05:177 (2) .
01:05:177 - Move 01:05:177 (2) to x:348 y:171 , 01:05:883 (3) to x:512 y:202, then 01:06:589 (4) to x:358 y:273. 01:03:765 (1) will naturally shoot to the next object, and 01:05:177 (2,4) makes a blanket pattern, which is pretty.
01:12:942 (1) - On the head of the slider, add a finish hitsound because this is where the kiai mode/chorus starts, so the finish could introduce the chorus.
01:27:059 (3) - I suggest to move this note to x:451 y:278 and 01:28:471 (1) to x:348 y:143 to get the flow more natural. You'll need to make changes to the next objects. For example, move 01:29:883 (2) to x:181 y:312. For 01:31:295 (3) -, loosen the curve; first, move the slider to x:479 y:208; move the second node (little square on the body) to x:492 y:312 and the last node to x:483 y:379. And then, move 01:33:412 (1) to x:359 y:87 and 01:34:118 (2) to x:284 y:236. It'll fixed the distance.
01:53:883 (2) - Remove the finish on the head.
02:12:236 (1) - and 02:13:647 (2) - Try flipping each of those slider vertically (Ctrl + J). They'll indicate the where's the next object.
02:16:471 (1) - Remove the new combo.
02:52:471 (1) - This spinner doesn't fit nor follow with music to be honest. I suggest to use the same rhythm as 01:35:883 (1,2,3) .
02:59:530 (1) - Remove the new combo.
03:04:471 (2) - Remove the finish on the head.
03:08:000 (1) - ^, and add one to 03:08:706 (2) .
03:15:765 (2) - Flip it vertically. It makes a better flow for 03:15:059 (1,3) .
03:17:177 (1) - You should make a slider that'll make the flow more better. Maybe a straight slider fits.
03:36:236 (2,3) - Replace those two notes by a 1/1 slider. It'll have the same rhythm as you to 03:32:000 (2) , since it has the same part.
03:38:706 (2,3,4,5,6) - This is different than the others; a little hard? Because of this, it broke the rhythm as you did to 03:30:589 from 03:34:824 . You should use the same rhythm as 03:30:589 (1,2,3) .
03:42:589 (1) - Same thing about "distance must be constant".
03:45:412 (3) - Add a new combo to follow the combo consistency.
03:56:706 (1,2,3) - A little too hard. And they don't follow the same rhythm as the others. The other uses the 1/1 rhythm, while this one uses a 1/2 rhythm.
04:15:059 (3) - The corner is outside of the gridset. You should bring the slider lower.
04:28:824 (1) - Finish the spinner at 04:30:589 . There's no beat after 04:30:589 . Also, you should silent the end of the spinner by adding an inheriting (green) point at 04:30:589 .

Use clap hitsound on the 2/1 and 4/1 white ticks (2/1 is meant to say that it's the white tick after the long white tick (a downbeat). 4/1 is meant to say that it's the white tick before the downbeat).

Here's a list of objects and tick that you must add a finish:
SPOILER
1. 00:13:647 (1) - On the head. It introduce the first beat.
2. 00:36:236 -
3. 00:58:824 -
4. 01:24:236 (1) - On the head. The vocal is strong here.
5. 01:34:824 (3) - On the tail.
6. 01:37:647 (3) - ^
7. 02:03:059 (4) - ^
8. 02:20:000 (4) - ^
9. 02:29:177 (1) - On the head.
10. 02:48:942 (4) - On the tail.
11. 03:17:177 (1) - On the head.
12. 03:51:059 (1) - ^
13. 04:15:059 (3) - On the tail
14. 04:19:295 (1) - On the head.
15. 04:24:236 (1) - On the tail.

I fixed most of the stuff~
I will stop here for now.

HootOwlStar

765 posts

Joined May 2014

HootOwlStar 2014-08-26T09:47:35+00:00

Hihi M4M (you modded my map)

Well, ignore my English and most of my mods are suggestions <=These words are important lol
Anyway, let's start *Mission START !!!*

General

AiMod in Normal* diff wrote:
Kiai's end isn't snapped! 01:38:354
Uninherited timing points conflict with Hard* diff.
Source conflicts with Mykaterasu's Another* diff.
Tags conflict with Mykaterasu's Another* diff.
This mapset needs at least 2 Taiko diffs.

You should check all the diffs' AiMod, anyway
There are 88 warnings in Hard* diff

Hard*

Please check AiMod
And the relative distance between notes seems untidy so please use distance snap to arrange them

00:17:530 (3) - Move to x:288 y:196 better
00:21:412 (3,5) - Maybe make the sliders into curves?
00:28:825 (1) - No NC, and fix blanket
00:32:001 (5) - Suggest make the slider from Ctrl+H of 00:31:295 (4)
00:34:825 (2,3) - Suggest blanket with 00:33:766 (1)
00:44:707 (4) - NC, and move point x:144 y:116 to x:152 y:120
00:54:942 (5,6,1) - Flow not smooth
01:22:824 (4) - Crtl+G
01:52:471 (1) - Move point x:392 y:264 to x:392 y:244
02:12:942 (6,7) - Move 02:12:942 (6) to x:248 y:96 and 02:13:295 (7) to x:240 y:188
02:34:471 - Add circle
03:45:413 (7) - Make the slider more interesting, maybe move point x:32 y:340 to x:232 y:124?
03:57:413 (2) - Move point x:80 y:168 to x:96 y:156
04:01:295 (2,3) - Make the blanket better
04:08:706 (1,2,3) - Flow not smooth
04:20:706 (3) - Make slider curve?

All About NC (Still Suggestions)

00:16:119 (1) - No NC
00:27:766 (6) - NC
00:30:589 (3) - NC
00:36:236 (4) - NC
00:50:353 (4) - NC
01:07:295 (5) - NC
01:09:765 (1) - No NC
01:10:119 (2) - NC
01:15:766 (5) - NC
01:16:472 (1) - NC
01:18:942 (5) - NC
01:23:883 (1) - No NC
01:24:236 (2) - NC
01:28:824 (1) - No NC
01:29:883 (2) - NC
01:32:706 (6) - NC
01:34:825 (1) - No NC
01:35:883 (2) - NC
01:41:177 (3) - NC
01:43:648 (1) - No NC
01:44:001 (2) - NC
01:49:648 (5) - NC
01:55:295 (5) - NC
02:00:942 (4) - NC
02:12:589 (5) - NC
02:13:648 (1) - No NC
02:15:413 (3) - NC
02:21:060 (4) - NC
02:22:119 (1) - No NC
02:23:530 (5) - NC
02:32:001 (5) - NC
02:33:413 (1) - No NC
02:34:825 (2) - NC
02:40:472 (5) - NC
02:41:883 (1) - No NC
02:43:295 (3) - NC
02:49:295 (6) - NC
02:50:354 (1) - No NC
02:52:118 (4) - NC
02:59:883 (4) - NC
03:05:883 (6) - NC
03:06:589 (1) - No NC
03:11:883 (5) - NC
03:13:648 (1) - No NC
03:14:353 (3) - NC
03:17:177 (7) - NC
03:18:589 (1) - No NC
03:20:354 (4) - NC
03:40:472 (5) - NC
03:41:883 (1) - No NC
03:42:589 (2) - NC
03:59:530 (5) - NC
04:00:942 (1) - No NC
04:02:354 (3) - NC
04:08:001 (5) - NC
04:08:706 (1) - No NC
04:11:177 (4) - NC
04:13:648 (7) - NC
04:14:354 (1) - No NC
04:22:119 (5) - NC
04:24:589 (1) - No NC
04:24:942 (2) - NC

I'll just mod until here
Sorry for the undetailed and bad mod
Hope your mapset gets ranked and GL~

Swiftheart

42 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Swiftheart 2014-09-14T18:04:54+00:00

Hard*

00:15:060 (3,4,5) - Little stuff. Try making a better triangle ( 00:15:060 (3,5) should be on the same line).Fixed
00:17:530 (3) - If you move this note to where 00:15:766 (5) is (stack with this note), the flow will get more natural. You'll need to make modification on 00:17:883 (4) .Fixed
00:18:942 (5) - This slider doesn't sound right, since it doesn't have the same rhythm as the first part of the map (00:13:647 to 00:18:589 - ). I suggest to replace the head to a note, then a 1/1 slider at 00:19:295 . Then, follow the rhythm shown under:
SPOILER
Fixed
The (5) starts at 00:18:942 , and the last 1/1 starts at 00:22:118 which ends at 00:22:471 .
This rhythm follows better with the music. Sometimes, 1/1 sliders on a red tick don't sound very well.
00:25:295 (1,2) - Move these more somewhere on the top of the tail of 00:24:236 (4) . It'll follow the curve, because the slider shoots to somewhere up to the next object, but the next object is on the right of the tail.
SPOILER
Fixed
00:27:766 (6) - You've this combo pattern, so you must follow. Here, it lands on a downbeat (long white tick). Since the pattern is "new combo on each downbeat", you must also add one.Okay
00:28:825 (1) - Move the slider to x:217 y:296, and move the last node to x:153 y:240 so it follows the curve of the previous object, which is the slider. You'll need to do modification on the next slider. Try something like in the image below:
SPOILER
Fixed
00:33:766 (1) - Move the 2nd node to x:223 y:130 and the last to x:203 y:151 to get a better blanket.Did something else there
00:36:236 (4) - Add a new combo.Fixed
00:38:707 (1) - Remove the new combo.Fixed
00:44:707 (4) - Add a new combo.Fixed
00:47:177 (7,1) - Try this pattern.
SPOILER
The current one doesn't really makes the flow well. It goes to a straight line, but there's a curve at 00:46:119 (6) , so a circular flow fits.Fixed
00:50:353 (4) - Reduce the length of the slider so it could be a 1/2 slider (end the slider at 00:50:706 - ). It ends on vocal which follows better the track. Also, add a new combo.Fixed
00:52:824 (1) - Remove the new combo, and add one to 00:53:177 (2) .Fixed
00:55:647 (6) - The slider's head on the previous slider breaks the flow. Another thing is that the slider doesn't sound well with the music. A hitcircle on 00:55:647 and a 1/1 slider on 00:56:000 . It follows better with the vocal.Fixed
01:00:589 (3) - Move this note to x:413 y:213 so it could have the same distance between the previous and next objects.Fixed
01:01:295 (1) - This slider skips the downbeat, ans sounds weird. I see the pattern you're doing with 01:02:706 (3) , but in my opinion, the rhythm takes priority, then the patterns. Try this pattern:
SPOILER
Fixed
(1) is on 01:01:647 -, (2) on 01:02:353 -, then you can figure out where will you place (3). I also think of making this pattern:
SPOILER
Nah
01:05:530 (3) - Reduce the slider so it could go on 01:05:883 . It follows better the vocals.Fixed
01:07:295 (5) - Move this to x:422 y:183 so it could have a same distance snap (1.00x). Add also a new combo.Fixed
01:09:765 (1) - Remove the new combo, and add one on 01:10:119 (2) .Fixed
01:17:177 (2) - Put this note in the middle of 01:16:472 (1,3) , then move them so it could have the same distance to each other (1.00x). It'll avoid the "anti distance snap" (if I can say). Also, make a better blanket with 01:17:177 (2) :
SPOILER
Fixed
01:18:236 (4) - Same thing about "the slider doesn't fit with the music". Replace the head by a note, and a 1/1 slider on the downbeat.Fixed
01:20:706 (1) - I suggest to end the slider at on 01:21:059 , and make the wave a little better:
SPOILER
I don't think that 01:21:295 doesn't have a beat, so it's pointless to map to a tick with no beat.Okay
01:22:472 (3) - Put this in the middle of 01:21:413 (2,4) , switch the head and tail (Ctrl + G) on 01:22:824 (4) . I think it won't get too confusing. 01:22:472 (3) is next the tail of 01:22:824 (4) - , so it's a little tricky. And I think a jump for 01:23:883 (1) fits with the music.Fixed
01:23:883 (1) - Remove the new combo, and add one on 01:24:236 (1) . It follows the new combo pattern.Fixed
01:28:824 (1,2) - Switch the new combos; 01:28:824 (1) shouldn't have a new combo, but 01:29:883 (2) is need.Fixed
01:29:883 (2,3) - These sliders don't sound right, the fact that they end on the 6/6 tick (01:30:471 -). Please end them on the red tick.Fixed
01:31:295 (4) - Be careful. The curve is too much outside. So move 01:31:295 (4,5,6) to the left. Also, add a new combo.Fixed
01:34:825 (1) - Use the distance snap here, and try to make a better wave. Four points is enough.
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Also, remove the new combo, and one on 01:35:883 (2) .Did remove the combo but made a different sliderFixed
01:36:942 (5) - Move this to x:165 y:225 to make 01:36:236 (3,4,5) an equilateral triangle, and rotate using the Rotate by... with the Selection Centre ticked, and messing with the slider (the one under the "Enter an angle to rotate by:") to a number that'll make the slider wrapped to 01:36:589 (4) .Fixed
01:41:177 (3) - Add a new combo.Fixed
01:43:648 (1) - Move to x:413 y:245 to make a little jump. Also, remove the new combo, and add one on 01:44:000 (2) .Fixed
01:46:472 (5) - The slider sounds weird here. You should add a note on 01:46:471 , then a 1/1 slider on 01:46:824 . The rhythm should follow better.Fixed

01:47:530 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try this pattern. The current one is "putting a same pattern two times in a same place", which it's a little boring, and repetitive.

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Fixed

To use or read the code, do File->Open .osu in Notepad, and go under [HitObjects]. Each line is an object, and has a number that indicates the ms (to view the ms, go in the design tab. You'll see it in the up-right area). For example, a note on 01:47:530 is 107530(ms) . You should find the number if you use the Find tool (Ctrl + F)(the ms number is the one after the second comma). Now, find the number 107530, and replace the next five to the code below:
168,168,107530,5,0,0:0:0:0:
254,108,107883,1,0,0:0:0:0:
266,212,108236,1,0,0:0:0:0:
325,298,108589,2,0,P|359:255|371:192,2,105.000004005432,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,287,109647,6,0,P|161:284|103:299,1,105.000004005432
30,355,110353,2,0,P|13:310|27:238,1,105.000004005432
If you have any difficulties, skip this suggestion and poke me in-game, and I'll try to help to the best I can.

01:55:295 (5) - Add a new combo.Fixed
02:00:942 (4) - ^Fixed
02:03:766 (1) - The tail is too much outside. Try moving 02:02:707 (6,1,2) on the left.No
02:05:883 (3) - Move this at x:295 y:284 to get the distance between this and the previous object at 1.00x.Fixed
02:06:942 (4) - Add a new combo.Fixed
02:12:589 (5) - ^Fixed
02:13:647 (1) - Remove the new combo, and add one on 02:15:413 (3) .Fixed
02:21:060 (4) - Add a new combo.Fixed
Try to find the notes where you should add a new combo. Hint: add a new combo on each downbeat, or on a tick after the downbeat, like the red tick, if it's occupied by a slider.Okay
02:33:412 (1) - Try putting the curve down:
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This will avoid the distance snap inconsistency.Fixed
02:34:824 (1,2) - Same thing about "end the sliders on the red tick".Fixed
02:45:765 - The slider doesn't sound good. Try this:
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You'll need to modify 02:47:530 (3) .Fixed
02:48:589 (4) - Again, this slider doesn't follow very well with the music.
Try to find slider like the one above (slider that lands on a red tick which doesn't sound fitting with the music). 02:52:118 (4) is okay, since it follows the vocal, but not 03:11:177 (4) .Fixed
03:08:707 (1) - The distance suddenly goes lower than 1.00x. Try to use the constant distance to every notes. Not every notes, since the difficulty won't by that hard. You can make jumps, but the jumps must fit with the music. For example, 03:05:177 (5,6) can have a jump, since 03:05:882 has a new and strong beat.Fixed
03:08:707 (1,2) - Same thing here. You should end them on the red tick.Fixed
03:56:706 (1,2) - ^Fixed
04:04:119 (5) - Move this to x:372 y:112 so it could be in the center of 04:03:060 (4,6) , and a higher distance between this and 04:03:060 (4,6) fits well.Fixed
04:11:177 (4) - The tail is too outside. Try a curve:
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You'll need to make change to 04:12:235 (5,6) .Okay
04:15:060 (2) - Woah. The curve touches the HP life bar. Move it more down.Fixed
04:22:471 (6,7) - You can improve the blanket.Fixed
Sorry if I didn't mention the hitsounds. If you can, try to find them.Okay

Thanks sheela for the mod

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