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Kou Otani - Free Bird

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Teara
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, September 14, 2013 at 12:31:52 PM

Artist: Kou Otani
Title: Free Bird
Source: Haibane Renmei
Tags: Classical Xgor
BPM: 64
Filesize: 7055kb
Play Time: 02:25
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (3.18 stars, 235 notes)
  2. Normal (2.22 stars, 204 notes)
  3. Xgor's Relaxing (0.42 stars, 95 notes)
Download: Kou Otani - Free Bird
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Done.
Lets try again!
Thank you Hawkzor for the Skin & wafu for the Storyboard.
Thank you Xgor for Easy diff.
hawkzor
Very nice map,

Map is amazing and works very well with the relaxing song ;)

This song shouldn't have Hard or Insane difficulties imo.

Sterretjie~
Beuchi
Hi there~ :)

Some suggestions for your map :D

~All diffs~
- Lower the hitsound volume a bit, it's so loud imo >.<.
- So nice skin, good job hawkzor ^^

~Easy~
00:41:078 (1,1) - Put them behind (1) of previous combo :3.
00:46:047 (6) - New Combo.
00:50:022 (6) - ^
00:53:097 (6) - ^
00:57:072 (6) - New Combo too? btw this one isn't necessary xD.
01:51:015 (5) - ^ (this is optional too)
02:05:022 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I'm not so sure about this... Maybe new players find this spacing/speed change a bit confusing oxo.
02:09:090 (6) - New combo.
02:19:028 (1) - Finish it at 02:25:533?

~Normal~
00:08:034 (3) - New Combo.
00:46:047 (6) - ^
00:50:022 (6) - ^
00:53:097 (6) - ^
00:57:072 (6) - New Combo too? btw this one isn't necessary. (Yeaaah Dejá Vu! Same thing as in Easy lol)
02:09:090 (6) - New combo.
02:13:814 (x) - Add a break here.
02:19:028 (1) - Finish it at 02:25:533? (Same as Easy too)

So looovely song x3 And nice map too, so relaxing ^^ Great Job!

*gives star*
Shulin
Lovely skin did you make it?

General:

My stupid suggestion of the day: Rename Easy Normal and rename Normal Hard, you could get away with it, I don't recommend making a harder difficulty though it just wouldn't be right.

Tags? - You knew someone was going to say this eventually ;)

Easy:

00:13:034 (1) - Whistle
00:23:034 (1,2) - ^ Remove from 3
00:27:009 (1,2) - ^
00:43:065 (4) - ^
00:45:084 (4) - ^
00:47:040 (4) - ^
00:50:022 (6) - New combo
00:57:072 (1,2,3) - Try a returning slider?
01:05:022 (2) - Whistle
01:07:009 (3) - ^
01:08:097 (3) - ^
01:08:097 (3) - ^ Start only
01:14:059 (3) - ^
01:16:047 (3) - ^ Start only
01:18:034 (5) - ^
01:35:022 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This time too many whistles, do it how you did on Hard.
02:05:022 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Consider some new combos here, especially for those easy players that are likely to miss one or two.

Normal

Whistles sound so lovely on this map, here are some suggestions:

00:00:084 (2) - Whistle
00:03:003 (3) - Whistle (the two beats but not the slider itself i.e. don't whistle the slider ball if that makes sense :P)
00:04:090 (2) - ^
00:06:015 (1,2) - Whistle
00:42:072 (1) - Remove whistle
00:43:003 (2) - Add, you guessed it, whistle
00:43:065 (4) - ^
00:45:053 (3) - ^
00:46:015 (5) - ^
00:48:065 (1,2) - Whistle?
00:49:059 (4,5) - ^
00:52:040 (1,2) - ^
00:56:015 (1,4) - ^
01:07:009 (3) - ^
01:08:097 (3) - ^
01:12:072 (1) - Whistle just the start?
01:14:059 (3) - Whistle
01:16:047 (3) - Whistle start only
01:46:783 - Unnecessary break?
01:53:003 (3) - Whistle?
02:05:022 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Perhaps consider inserting some new combos here, maybe every 2 beats, main reason is the hp drain rate goes down during the breaks between notes.
02:13:970 Unnecessary break?

I hope I'm not advocating whistle abuse here :P

That's all, fantastic maps with only hitsound suggestions lol Yep, all you need now is my star :D
Hikato
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
fartownik
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Lucidity
So relaxing~ I agree with Hawk, an Insane wouldn't fit the song.

Hier's 'n ster:)
Gabi
nice relaxing map ^^ :)

try out what i said in IRC (offset 550-555 was it) , i don't think i can get any closer then that. and try to get someone to confirm it for you

star'
Shinxyn
so...rela..zzzzz.....huhwadawha?
Nitpickiness -> edit out the animewallerpaper website on the bottom of the bg image plz >_<
The maps can get away with even less hitsounds, but then again, those hitsounds were probably the only things keeping me awake from the music~

Easy-
02:16:015 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - <<< only part I didn't like cuz of hitsounds, it breaks the calm relaxing mood before it, try removing one or two whistles from this part
02:18:002 (4) - ..... it sounds this piano part isn't with the BPM, it plays well on the 1/2 beat, so I guess its fine

Normal-
Good job
01:53:097 (4) - bring this up a tick in case people complain about it being slightly off grid, not that it matters much for me
mosluv
Easy:
00:42:074 (1) to 00:57:042 (5) - This part is not very "Easy" like. I'd consider dropping a few notes.

I also mentioned that the lighting image was very distracting. Other than these 2 things, it's lovely :3!

:)
Card N'FoRcE
Offset feels just a bit late to me. Try -5ms? (actually, offset should be 1485 imho xD)

- Easy:
  • .Opinions:
    Just call it "Normal"~ :P
    .Suggestions:
    00:30:055 (1) - is new combo here really necessary?
    02:12:074 (3) - CTRL-H this one. If you select beats from 2:05:240 to 2:14:615 you'll understand why :P
- Normal:
  • .Opinions:
    Just call it "Hard"~ :P
    .Suggestions:
    00:02:074 (2) - move it a little up without grid snap. It looks a bit ugly D:
Great, the song is very calming ^^
Star for you :)
hawkzor
My storyboard for the map ~_~

Download: freebirdsb.rar
jockeytiyan
Here's the diff that you wanted me to make. :3

Oh and to take this opportunity to mod the map...

Normal:
SPOILER
01:55:055 (1,2) - Relocate the beats. They're nearly offscreen.
02:02:042 (4) - Put a break after this beat.

Hard:
SPOILER
00:55:024 (5) - Put whistle both at the start and at the reverse arrow of the slider.
00:56:017 (1) - Remove whistle.
01:10:055 (2) - Put a whistle here.
01:16:017 (2) - ^
01:46:049 (2) - Put a break after this beat.

Nice song. It's the only relaxing song I've ever liked...orz.

Star~

Download: Kou Otani - Free Bird (Teara) [Jockey's Hard].osu
MaxSalsa_old
Looked this over... I see no problem with this map at all. Storyboard looks great too. I look forward to playing it again once it's ranked. Take this Star.
Xgor
Lovely map and SB :D

[Skin]
A custom spinner would be great.

[Normal]
01:27:011 (1) - Almost off-screen

[Hard]
:)

Great map,it felt like it needs a Easy due to the feel of the song (But if you want it I'll can make one :) )
*star*
Xgor
Yes i know i double-posted but i want it clear that i have finished my guest diff :D
Download: Kou Otani - Free Bird (Teara) [Xgor's Relaxing].osu

Also i found some things that should be applyed to all the other diffs (But mine has those things already finished!

Add haibane_5_10241 as Background image so it shows in the song select.
Also change the offset to 1 490 and change the time signature to 3/4 .

Also this map would be perfect for the Easy Series! (Just a suggestion from me, A major supporter of that series :P )
*kudosu star*
0_o
General
While your timing gets notes in the right spot, the metronome is definitely not correct. I'm not sure about the offset, but the BPM is 64, snapped to 1/3 in 4/4 time. You'll have to play a bit with your slider velocity, but you realllllly should change this.

Storyboard/Skin
I think a custom spinner would be nice, the current one kind of clashes with the theme imo
01:03:677 - idk if it's just me, but it immediately switches from black to the normal background here. If this is the case could you fade into it more?

Normal
00:08:036 (3) - New combo
00:23:036 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I would be more consistent with the whistle usage, personally I think whistles on 1 and 3 sound good.

Hard
I'm not crazy about some of the whistle usage, I won't go through them all but mainly I would try to stick to similar hitsound usage on similar sounding parts like 00:00:055 (1,2,3,1,2,3). Use the whistles to emphasize the strong notes like 00:01:017 (3) [endpoint] or 00:08:036 (1) [beginning], and not on weaker notes like 00:00:086 (2) or 00:08:036 (1) [endpoint]. (This goes for Normal too) If choose not to ignore my advice and want further advice on this, let me know ;)

Nice map ^_^ The SB was awesome :)
hawkzor
Custom spinner, and sb fix, problem with setting the background image fixed

edit: added spinner bg image too

Download: newsbfiles.zip

whymeman
Hmmmm.....

This is only my input for timing help.

This song "could" use a negative offset with the way it is setup since thinking about it, the song starts off abrupt as if there used to be some audio before it kind of feeling. Try using -385ms since the notes at 00:00:055 (1,2,3) is going before the offset and will have to be removed if you plan to keep the current one. Remember that you can't have notes before the very first offset. Also, since this map has an SB, make sure to check the objects of the SB as well to make sure they are functioning properly. Hope that helps you out.
NoHitter
Overall
The dark green combo looks sort of an eyesore...
Put Xgor in the tags.
You can put kiai from 00:31:487 -> 00:57:737

Storyboard
Make bgw.png end at 02:19:300 (for all) and fade slowly after that. (For Xgor's diff)

Xgor's Relaxing
Good

Normal
Good

Hard
Good

Awesome SB
Matma Rex
Fixed hitcircles are here (modding in progress). On current build it's all messed up on slider, but AFAIK it'll be fixed in next build.

To make numbers land above overlay, add
OverlayPosition: below
under [General] section in each .osu file (but I'm afraid it'll be on next public build, too).

Download: hitcirclestuff.rar
Xgor
Here is my diff, adapted for 64 BPM
Download: Kou Otani - Free Bird (Teara) [Xgor's Relaxing].osu
Andrea
New "Detailed" modding style for help maps <3

You don't have to follow my post, remember there are not directions, but suggestions!

[File Checking...]

Background: Yes.
Source: Yes.
Tags: Yes.
File Size: 4,81MB/24,00MB

[Overall]

Timing: BPM: 64,00 - Offset: 564 (Remember to resnap all notes.)

[Difficulties]

[Xgor's Relaxing]

You have some unsnapped notes on this difficulty. You have to resnap all notes.

00:00:055 (1) - Unsnapped.
00:02:042 (2) - ^
00:04:030 (1) - ^
00:06:017 (2) - ^
00:07:011 (3) - ^ Etc. (See AIMod for more info)

01:46:049 (1) - Remove new combo.

[Normal]

00:08:036 (3) - New combo.
01:25:086 (1) - Remove new combo.


[Hard]

00:38:067 (1) - Unsnapped.
00:38:082 (2) - ^
00:38:098 (3) - ^
Kytoxid
[General]

Delete:
- newsbfiles folder
- Thumbs.db in the pics folder
- any other unused files you may have
and do a full submit.

Everything else has been picked out meticulously by Mr. Osuplayer111, so I'll spare you the rambling and pass on a star.
Diasios
Mod Infos:

Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.

Start Suggestions:

All seems ok.

[Xgor's Relaxing]

Resnap all notes.
Add kiai
01:56:096 (x) - Add a break
02:02:659 (x) - ^


[Normal]

Add kiai
01:33:596 (x) - Add a break
01:56:096 (x) - ^
02:02:659 (x) - ^


[Hard]

Add kiai
01:33:596 (x) - Add a break
01:46:800 (x) - ^


Awesome, i love this beatmap *w*
Starred~
Topic Starter
Teara
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Mukku
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Dusty
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Jinxy
[Skin]
Right now the overlay is covering the hitcircle numbers up. Either use the overlay as the hitcircle or change all the numbers to a 1x1 transparent pixel.


[Xgor's]
SB writes "Beatmap by: Teara" O RLY?
(In other words, change "Beatmap by: Teara" into one that is only in the Normal and Hard difficulties.)


[Normal and Hard]
Nothing.


Star.
hawkzor
Fixed numbers(to nothing) and Added credits for Xgor dif, (storyboard was made before there were any guest difs)

Download: newfilesforsb.rar
Matma Rex

JInxyjem wrote:

[Skin]
Right now the overlay is covering the hitcircle numbers up. Either use the overlay as the hitcircle or change all the numbers to a 1x1 transparent pixel.

Matma Rex wrote:

To make numbers land above overlay, add
OverlayPosition: below
under [General] section in each .osu file (but I'm afraid it'll be on next public build, too).
awp
Aw, I was slightly disappointed that this Free Bird wasn't a Lynyrd Skynyrd cover. On the other hand, this is a thousand times easier to time.

Offset: 552

1:03:20 (63548ms) - around this point the SB cuts off abruptly - extend the fade time so it doesn't just "jump" to black. It does so for all three difficulties, though [Normal] appears to be the most correctly executed of the lot.

Also, your images are much larger than necessary, by the looks of it. You should be able to get away with scaling them down (1:1) to 600px height-wise, and tweaking the in-game scaling to match it.

Delete pics\Thumbs.db
I also see an entry for a "sbfiles\starsomethingorother" - delete any unnecessary lines in the SB, including deprecated/replaced lines.

T'is rather pretty, though~
Topic Starter
Teara

awp wrote:

Aw, I was slightly disappointed that this Free Bird wasn't a Lynyrd Skynyrd cover. On the other hand, this is a thousand times easier to time.

Offset: 552

1:03:20 (63548ms) - around this point the SB cuts off abruptly - extend the fade time so it doesn't just "jump" to black. It does so for all three difficulties, though [Normal] appears to be the most correctly executed of the lot.

Also, your images are much larger than necessary, by the looks of it. You should be able to get away with scaling them down (1:1) to 600px height-wise, and tweaking the in-game scaling to match it.

Delete pics\Thumbs.db
I also see an entry for a "sbfiles\starsomethingorother" - delete any unnecessary lines in the SB, including deprecated/replaced lines.

T'is rather pretty, though~
Ironically I'll have to wait for hawkzor to get back from his holidays, since I have absolutely no idea on how to manipulate Storyboards. Its sad I know. Once I get back home and have internet faster then 5kb's I'll go though some of the tutorials.

Thanks for the timing.
happy30
nice sb ~

on normal and hard:

02:17:152 (1,2,3,4) - These notes are off, well, actually the the song is off here D:
you can try a new timing section on 136.501 ms with 61,400 BPM
its better, but still :\

I think the SB needs a huuuuge clean-up
just follow what awp said :P

star
EEeee
everything looks good, just uhhh in Xgor's Relaxing, maybe add that second timing section at the very last note, like in the other diffs, then remove 02:19:283 - cause it is unused

anyways, nice map in all diffs, i would say perfect
*star
Lokamp
Xgor's Relaxing
02:06:177 (2) - move it 2 squares right and 3 squares down

Normal
00:13:364 (1,2) - no whistle on 1st, whistle on 2nd
01:08:989 (3,1) - whistle here

Hard
00:47:739 (5) - whistle on this slider's start
00:48:989 (2,5) - no whistles here

Finally, I've found a map with an Easy mode worthy of this name!
In fact, it's rare for modders like me to found an Easy mode with 1 or lower star of difficulty ranking: good job!
This good and relaxing map merits a star for the storyboard and 2 other random tips:

-The beatmap's skin is really nice, but where are combo numbers on beats and sliders? Please, add them on the skin.
-Teara's Normal mode hasn't too much sliders... maybe, try to add some of them...
NoHitter
Just some things to add.

Disable letterbox during breaks (this will make the break part with the credits look neater)

and

Set the preferred skin to Default. (This wont override the custom skin)
XepherX3
ok this is what i get:

[Hard]
2nd herited timing section on : 136.489 ms , BPM 61

set the hitcircles like this

place the start of the spinner on 138.702ms move the inherited section to this spot too

make the spinner end at the old spot : 02:25:341

hope this is helpfull

{bonus}
as i'm on a big high res momitor i found this image a bit too pixelerated <does this word exist<< :lol:
here is a fix:


Zekira
OK uh, please try this:

First offset: 64BPM, 1500ms
Second offset: 61BPM, 136500ms

And with this many number of mods I couldn't find anything much else from the other aspects of the map, so... heh.
Dangaard
Nice and soothing map, since you are still working on the SB:
fumoffu star :3
vytalibus
Sleepy star~

I don't like slow songs myself, but you did a good job of mapping this. Probably not one of the most exceptional slow songs I've seen, but it's good.
Gens
[Xgor's Relaxing]
  1. Combo colors aren't the same, is this intended?
02:16:500 - You're missing a timing section here... even if it isn't used, it's necessary.

[Hard]
  1. My only complaint is that this difficulty isn't hard at all. ;p
~ ~ ~

So yeah, I like relaxing beatmaps. Pretty good job you did on this one, the SB adds a nice little touch. :)
Xgor
You can fix minor thing like this yourself, you know :/
Download: Kou Otani - Free Bird (Teara) [Xgor's Relaxing].osu
Edit: Please don't let this die :(
Kujo
bump with a star? :D
hawkzor
fixed storyboard

Download: Kou Otani - Free Bird (Teara).osb
Zerostarry
It's all good. There isn't much room for error with a song like this though...

Not bubbling because i'm inexperienced with skins/storyboards...sorry about that >< Star though.
NoHitter
This mapped would get ranked already if it weren't for the hitcircleoverlay :(
Topic Starter
Teara
I'll just delete it
NoHitter
The image appearing on 00:17:437 is kind of sudden.

Can't you make it gradually appear starting on 00:15:562

Also why in [Hard] the bg is different?

(We're you serious of deleting the hitcircleoverlay.png?)
hawkzor
This magical storyboard breaks itself (or osu! updater does)

well fixed it again, and some sketchy transitions in the middle:

Download: Kou Otani - Free Bird (Teara).osb
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